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TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 12:58 PM
Everyone knows Jordan faced some real cupcake teams in the Finals, but when we really dig deeper into MJ's extremely favorable circumstances we find how laughable these #2 options truly were. I present, the elite #2 options Jordan had to defeat during his supreme reign

1991 Finals
Vlade Divac, 18.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/k4Cb7MPM/vlade-divac.jpg

1992 Finals
Terry Porter, 16.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/vHYtWzj8/b39125a642c35f1cb25619433e6b9fbf.jpg

1993 Finals
Dan Majerle, 17.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/KjZBDG0p/hqdefault.jpg

1996 Finals
Gary Payton, 18.0 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/MZDyKBGC/b92ff3c9cecf5726e554c74fb73584cb.jpg

1997 Finals
John Stockton, 15 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/GhgGv1Gz/180px-John-Stockton-Lipofskydotcom-32245.jpg

1998 Finals
Jeff Hornacek, 10.7 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/sfWPZtWD/jordan2.jpg

Combined average: 15.8 ppg (SECOND option on opposing team)

VERSUS

2012 Finals
Russell Westbrook, 27.0 ppg

2013 Finals
Tony Parker, 15.7 ppg

2016 Finals
Klay Thompson, 19.6 ppg

Combined average: 20.8 ppg (SECOND option on opposing team)

Some takeaways:
-LeBron's second strongest #2 option opponent (Klay, 19.6 ppg) was better than the best #2 Jordan ever faced; this isn't even including Westbrook
-MJ truly faced 6 cupcakes
-It seems like a joke but this is all factual information.

Here we have someone facing off against Parker, Klay, and Westbrook while another is battling against Majerle, Hornacek, and Porter. I rest my case.

TheImmortal
01-23-2019, 12:59 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/23jkhtd.jpg

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:01 PM
http://i68.tinypic.com/23jkhtd.jpg

Oh sorry, this thread is for the playoffs. It's what happens AFTER the warm up regular season :lol Let me know how that goes

TheImmortal
01-23-2019, 01:02 PM
Oh sorry, this thread is for the playoffs. It's what happens AFTER the warm up regular season :lol Let me know how that goes
:lol rekt

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:05 PM
:lol rekt

Exactly :lol

Like I said, let me know when you find some playoff numbers baby boi

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 01:14 PM
96 Payton is the best #2 on the list.

FKAri
01-23-2019, 01:15 PM
96 Payton is the best #2 on the list.
Fukc that retarded midget crackhead

TheImmortal
01-23-2019, 01:16 PM
Exactly :lol

Like I said, let me know when you find some playoff numbers baby boi

Dirk Nowitzki beat the self proclaimed "GOAT" 2nd option:

http://i65.tinypic.com/a3ytde.jpg

17.8 PPG | 43.6 MPG | 60% FT | 24 TO


You're welcome.

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 01:16 PM
Fukc that retarded midget crackhead

Ok.

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:17 PM
Dirk Nowitzki beat the self proclaimed "GOAT" 2nd option:

http://i65.tinypic.com/a3ytde.jpg

17.8 PPG | 43.6 MPG | 60% FT | 24 TO

This was your response to Jordan's laughably weak competition and extremely favorable circumstances? Should I just respond with 1/10 pre Pippen? :facepalm

bullettooth
01-23-2019, 01:17 PM
Beats all these supposedly great 2nd options but loses to JJ Barea?

:biggums:

warriorfan
01-23-2019, 01:17 PM
Everyone knows Jordan faced some real cupcake teams in the Finals, but when we really dig deeper into MJ's extremely favorable circumstances we find how laughable these #2 options truly were. I present, the elite #2 options Jordan had to defeat during his supreme reign

1991 Finals
Vlade Divac, 18.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/k4Cb7MPM/vlade-divac.jpg

1992 Finals
Terry Porter, 16.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/vHYtWzj8/b39125a642c35f1cb25619433e6b9fbf.jpg

1993 Finals
Dan Majerle, 17.2 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/KjZBDG0p/hqdefault.jpg

1996 Finals
Gary Payton, 18.0 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/MZDyKBGC/b92ff3c9cecf5726e554c74fb73584cb.jpg

1997 Finals
John Stockton, 15 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/GhgGv1Gz/180px-John-Stockton-Lipofskydotcom-32245.jpg

1998 Finals
Jeff Hornacek, 10.7 ppg
https://i.postimg.cc/sfWPZtWD/jordan2.jpg

Combined average: 15.8 ppg (SECOND option on opposing team)

VERSUS

2012 Finals
Russell Westbrook, 27.0 ppg

2013 Finals
Tony Parker, 15.7 ppg

2016 Finals
Klay Thompson, 19.6 ppg

Combined average: 20.8 ppg (SECOND option on opposing team)

Some takeaways:
-LeBron's second strongest #2 option opponent (Klay, 19.6 ppg) was better than the best #2 Jordan ever faced; this isn't even including Westbrook
-MJ truly faced 6 cupcakes
-It seems like a joke but this is all factual information.

Here we have someone facing off against Parker, Klay, and Westbrook while another is battling against Majerle, Hornacek, and Porter. I rest my case.


The second options from the 90s shit all over the bums LeBron faced. Impressive thread backfire. lol

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:19 PM
The second options from the 90s shit all over the bums LeBron faced. Impressive thread backfire. lol

Not sure if delusional or it's backwards day :lol

bullettooth
01-23-2019, 01:20 PM
Not sure if delusional or it's backwards day :lol

Correct; you're both delusional and backwards.

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 01:26 PM
Lebron's #2s in the finals he won:

Wade 2012: 22.6/6.0/5.2 52% TS

Wade 2013: 19.6/4.0/4.6 51% TS

Kyrie 2016: 27.1/3.9/3.9 56% TS


Here's Pippens in 96,97 and 98:

96: 15.7/8.2/5.3 43% TS

97: 20.0/8.3./3.5 54% TS

98: 15.7/6.8/4.8 50% TS

:confusedshrug:

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:28 PM
Lebron's #2s in the finals he won:

Wade 2012: 22.6/6.0/5.2 52% TS

Wade 2013: 19.6/4.0/4.6 51% TS

Kyrie 2016: 27.1/3.9/3.9 56% TS


Here's Pippens in 96,97 and 98:

96: 15.7/8.2/5.3 43% TS

97: 20.0/8.3./3.5 54% TS

98: 15.7/6.8/4.8 50% TS

:confusedshrug:

Well this is a better response, but are you forgetting defense, too? There's no denying Wade and Kyrie were better scorers than Pippen but the 'better than' convo stops right there.

Passer. Pip. Rebounder. Pip. Defense. Pip. etc.

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 01:33 PM
Well this is a better response, but are you forgetting defense, too? There's no denying Wade and Kyrie were better scorers than Pippen but the 'better than' convo stops right there.

Passer. Pip. Rebounder. Pip. Defense. Pip. etc.

No, I didn't. Hence why I said the best number two in your list is Payton. And if we're talking about defense, where is Parker fitting into that? Both Majerle and Stockton were better defenders. Westbrook weren't anything special defensively. So out of your list, the only one who registers as a defender is Klay, since you raise the topic. Wade in 2012 is a better player overall than Scottie in the 2nd 3peat, especially considering the playoffs.

We can slice it up however you want, champ.

FKAri
01-23-2019, 01:37 PM
No, I didn't. Hence why I said the best number two in your list is Payton. And if we're talking about defense, where is Parker fitting into that? Both Majerle and Stockton were better defenders. Westbrook weren't anything special defensively. So out of your list, the only one who registers as a defender is Klay, since you raise the topic. Wade in 2012 is a better player overall than Scottie in the 2nd 3peat, especially considering the playoffs.

We can slice it up however you want, champ.
Majerle couldn't play defense with his feet. Forget average. He'd be a straight shit defender in today's game.

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 01:38 PM
Majerle couldn't play defense with his feet. Forget average. He'd be a straight shit defender in today's game.

That doesn't negate the point he was a better defender than Parker was. I didn't raise the topic of defense, OP did. Further to that point, the OP didn't once raise the issue of 'defense' in the opening post, just posted a bunch of scoring averages. The intent of his thread is obvious. Until I posted that Wade in 2012 and 2013 provided 20-23ppg finals scoring help, and Kyrie provided 27ppg finals scoring help, and that Scottie was shit on offense in 2 of the 3 finals from 96-98. That resulted in an 'oh shit, let me shift the goalposts to defense' pivot. Only issue with that, neither Parker or Westbrook register on the scale defensively to counter with that point.

Just sayin....

superduper
01-23-2019, 01:44 PM
A true GOAT doesn't need it screamed 20x a day that he is the GOAT.

Bran is literally nowhere near the GOAT and the fact that you stans and the media spew it 20x a day to try to force it completely proves the point.

Stay losing idiots.

Bodied.

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:48 PM
No, I didn't. Hence why I said the best number two in your list is Payton. And if we're talking about defense, where is Parker fitting into that? Both Majerle and Stockton were better defenders. Westbrook weren't anything special defensively. So out of your list, the only one who registers as a defender is Klay, since you raise the topic. Wade in 2012 is a better player overall than Scottie in the 2nd 3peat, especially considering the playoffs.

We can slice it up however you want, champ.

I'm trying to gather my thoughts for a moment since you're basically attempting to compare Tony Parker to...Dan Majerle? Are we having the same conversation? I know you're trying to skew this in such a way but if you mention "Payton had better defense" can't I just say Parker had better passing and scoring?" I mean...And can we dispell the myth that Payton was a good defender?

He had a DRtg of 103 or lower twice in his life whereas Parker has had hit six times. PG to PG is a fair comparison, too.

TheCorporation
01-23-2019, 01:52 PM
That doesn't negate the point he was a better defender than Parker was. I didn't raise the topic of defense, OP did. Further to that point, the OP didn't once raise the issue of 'defense' in the opening post, just posted a bunch of scoring averages. The intent of his thread is obvious. Until I posted that Wade in 2012 and 2013 provided 20-23ppg finals scoring help, and Kyrie provided 27ppg finals scoring help, and that Scottie was shit on offense in 2 of the 3 finals from 96-98. That resulted in an 'oh shit, let me shift the goalposts to defense' pivot. Only issue with that, neither Parker or Westbrook register on the scale defensively to counter with that point.

Just sayin....

You're way off. Jordan faced weak opponents in the Finals and that's a bonafide fact. Who can argue that? Compared to LeBron and other legends he simply faced much weak teams. When you look at the #2 options it becomes even more laughable.

Why is it hard to admit MJ faced weak teams in the Finals? We openly admit that Bill Russell had a super stacked team and beat up on cupcake opponents but we give MJ a pass?

Nah :no:

superduper
01-23-2019, 01:54 PM
Jordan's competition leading up to the finals in the East was 50x more difficult than Bran's competition leading up to the finals in the LEast.

/thread

bullettooth
01-23-2019, 02:01 PM
Why is it hard to admit MJ faced weak teams in the Finals?

Because it's not true and you're a liar desperately trying to prop up LeBron to compensate for the fact that you missed out on seeing the GOAT MJ play when he did. Sucks to be a millennial, but the least you could do is grow a pair and get over yourself.

FKAri
01-23-2019, 02:03 PM
MJ DID face weak competition. His teams always had the best player in the series. Checkmate Jordanians

SouBeachTalents
01-23-2019, 02:11 PM
A true GOAT doesn't need it screamed 20x a day that he is the GOAT.

Bran is literally nowhere near the GOAT and the fact that you stans and the media spew it 20x a day to try to force it completely proves the point.

Stay losing idiots.

Bodied.
@3ball

Manny98
01-23-2019, 02:30 PM
96 Payton is the best #2 on the list.
:facepalm

superduper
01-23-2019, 02:31 PM
:facepalm

You were still in yo daddys bawlsack in 96 wtf you facepalming? :roll: :roll: :roll:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 02:38 PM
I'm trying to gather my thoughts for a moment since you're basically attempting to compare Tony Parker to...Dan Majerle? Are we having the same conversation? I know you're trying to skew this in such a way but if you mention "Payton had better defense" can't I just say Parker had better passing and scoring?" I mean...And can we dispell the myth that Payton was a good defender?

He had a DRtg of 103 or lower twice in his life whereas Parker has had hit six times. PG to PG is a fair comparison, too.

Which conversation are you having? Your first post quotes scoring averages. I gave you scoring averages that destroyed that agenda. Then you shifted to defense, so I'll now destroy that with your own retarded logic:

Majerle hit 103 drtg 5 times in 14 years, 35% of the time. Parker's hit your arbitrary mark 6 in 18 years, 33% of the time. If you're going to use that logic to make some retarded argument that this makes Parker a better defender than Payton, than Majerle hitting that mark for a greater percentage of his career would make him a better defender than Parker. :confusedshrug: It also means Stockton is a better defender, hitting that mark 8 times in 19 seasons, 42% of his career. Thanks for proving what I said before. Also, how did Lebron lose the FMVP award to Iggy who's only been under 103 DRtg 4 times in 15 years, 27% of his career? Majerle hit that mark more than Iggy, in less seasons. So, Majerle> Iguodola defensively on account of number times their defensive rating has been 103 or lower, as per your own argument. Any other 'points' you need destroyed?

Parker better passing and scoring? Parker topped out at 6.9 assists and 22 points. Payton topped out 9.0 assists and 24.2 ppg. Lost that one too. :lol

knicksman
01-23-2019, 02:42 PM
Which conversation are you having? Your first post quotes scoring averages. I gave you scoring averages that destroyed that agenda. Then you shifted to defense, so I'll now destroy that with your own retarded logic:

Majerle hit 103 drtg 5 times in 14 years, 35% of the time. Parker's hit your arbitrary mark 6 in 18 years, 33% of the time. If you're going to use that logic to make some retarded argument that this makes Parker a better defender than Payton, than Majerle hitting that mark for a greater percentage of his career would make him a better defender than Parker. :confusedshrug: It also means Stockton is a better defender, hitting that mark 8 times in 19 seasons, 42% of his career. Thanks for proving what I said before. Also, how did Lebron lose the FMVP award to Iggy who's only been under 103 DRtg 4 times in 15 years, 27% of his career? Majerle hit that mark more than Iggy, in less seasons. So, Majerle> Iguodola defensively on account of number times their defensive rating has been 103 or lower, as per your own argument. Any other 'points' you need destroyed?

Parker better passing and scoring? Parker topped out at 6.9 assists and 22 points. Payton topped out 9.0 assists and 24.2 ppg. Lost that one too. :lol

these guys are now on meltdown mode so they are spouting nonsense. Theyre mad that these guys respected someone whos disrespected by alphas.

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 02:47 PM
these guys are now on meltdown mode so they are spouting nonsense. Theyre mad that these guys respected someone whos disrespected by alphas.

Yep. The other alts should be in any moment now to proclaim that the OP 'has em fuming' or some shit. The life of a suicidal basement-dwelling retard, right here on ISH for us all to see.

FKAri
01-23-2019, 02:53 PM
OP has em fuming :oldlol:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 03:03 PM
OP has em fuming :oldlol:

Always knew you were one :lol

Overdrive
01-23-2019, 03:07 PM
No surprise Lebron fans talk about second options, but Jordan beat first options. If you want to compare, compare second options to second options unless you believe Lebron is one.

Also you're saying Jordan beat 6 of them and Lebron only 3?

jstern
01-23-2019, 03:10 PM
I think I prefer Gary Payton over Russell. Specially 2012 Russell.

superduper
01-23-2019, 03:11 PM
I think I prefer Gary Payton over Russell. Specially 2012 Russell.

Sorry Russell had more $tats so you're obviously wrong

LAmbruh
01-23-2019, 03:13 PM
Corporation got em stringing along :lol

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 03:14 PM
1....

superduper
01-23-2019, 03:15 PM
1....

You called it :roll: :roll:

Their low IQ Bran species is way too predictable.

FKAri
01-23-2019, 03:30 PM
Always knew you were one :lol
Rent free!

haha!
Damn, I'm good :pimp:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 03:43 PM
Rent free!

haha!
Damn, I'm good :pimp:

There's no fooling you. :applause:

FKAri
01-23-2019, 03:44 PM
There's no fooling you. :applause:
Nor you, clearly :cheers:

bullettooth
01-23-2019, 03:45 PM
Rent free!

Only thing that's rent free is you in your mom's basement.

Manny98
01-23-2019, 03:54 PM
Imagine actually thinking that Gary Payton is better than Russell Westbrook :roll: :roll: :roll:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 03:58 PM
Nor you, clearly :cheers:

*BROFIST

Gileraracer
01-23-2019, 04:01 PM
Damn another excuse for Lebrons shortcomings

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 04:01 PM
Imagine actually thinking that Gary Payton is better than Russell Westbrook :roll: :roll: :roll:

Imagine being ignored the first time, so you have to further beg for a response to validates your existence. Here you go, your 5 seconds of attention for today.

Gus Hemmingway
01-23-2019, 04:07 PM
Imagine actually thinking that Gary Payton is better than Russell Westbrook :roll: :roll: :roll:
shit :roll: :roll: :roll:

Manny98
01-23-2019, 04:07 PM
Imagine being ignored the first time, so you have to further beg for a response to validates your existence. Here you go, your 5 seconds of attention for today.
I wasn't. even talking about you do you think your special or something :oldlol:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 04:08 PM
2..

Gus Hemmingway
01-23-2019, 04:08 PM
I wasn't. even talking about you do you think your special or something :oldlol:
Gotta get a choke chain on your doggy



Little guy has been melting HARD in every MJ thread :oldlol:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 04:11 PM
I wasn't. even talking about you do you think your special or something :oldlol:



I'm the only one who's talked about Payton and WB here comparatively, which you replied to


:facepalm

So why would you make that comment unless I replied to your little emooji the first time? Got this dude on a leash

Fukktwit :lol

Manny98
01-23-2019, 04:24 PM
Gotta get a choke chain on your doggy



Little guy has been melting HARD in every MJ thread :oldlol:
His veins are popping right now :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/PrX1FmyD/tenor-4.gif

Manny98
01-23-2019, 04:24 PM
I'm the only one who's talked about Payton and WB here comparatively, which you replied to



So why would you make that comment unless I replied to your little emooji the first time? Got this dude on a leash

Fukktwit :lol
I was referring to Jordan Stans in general who say dumbshit

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 04:33 PM
I was referring to Jordan Stans in general who say dumbshit

No you weren't. Your comment wasn't a general one, it was geared to something said specifically in this thread by me. If it was intended to be 'general', there's any number of ways you could have expressed it. Nice try fukktwit.

SomeBlackDude
01-23-2019, 04:47 PM
who got outscored better by the #6 option coming off the bench?

https://image.ibb.co/cvvKex/Bron-Terry-Finals.jpg

VERSUS



















































































https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif

And1AllDay
01-23-2019, 05:04 PM
OP has em fuming :oldlol:
Str8 FUMIN :oldlol:

And1AllDay
01-23-2019, 05:05 PM
Imagine actually thinking that Gary Payton is better than Russell Westbrook :roll: :roll: :roll:

Next we will here that Hornacek was better than Klay :oldlol:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 05:44 PM
Next we will here that Hornacek was better than Klay :oldlol:

96 Payton was a better player than 2012 Westbrook. That's actually the point being made, switching between your various tabs you probably missed it. :confusedshrug:

And1AllDay
01-23-2019, 06:02 PM
who got outscored better by the #6 option coming off the bench




This actually didn't help your case, ready to get wrekt here it goesss

Bron took 90 shots and Wade took 108 shots

So, your saying Bron should have taken more shots and pushed Wade and Bosh aside?

Hint: He did, in 2012 and 2013. What happened then?

2011 Finals: Lost
Bron took 90 shots
Wade took 108 shots

2012 Finals: Chip
Bron took 108 shots
Wade took 92 shots

2013 Finals: Chip
Bron took 150 shots
Wade took 126 shots

Interesting...When Bron takes 20% less shots Wade couldn't win it but when Bron took 20% more shots...he wins it.

And1AllDay
01-23-2019, 06:08 PM
96 Payton was a better player than 2012 Westbrook. That's actually the point being made, switching between your various tabs you probably missed it. :confusedshrug:

Uhhh

2012 Goatbrook
24-6-5 on 46%

1996 6'1 Payton
19-7-4 on 48%

I
dont
think
so
buddy

SomeBlackDude
01-23-2019, 06:12 PM
Uhhh

2012 Goatbrook
24-6-5 on 46%

1996 6'1 Payton
19-7-4 on 48%

I
dont
think
so
buddy

do you have a reel of empty stats brook's defense from the series, brother?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFWyLRNsGk&t=3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy6uigdabDs

$tats can be deceiving when trying to parse impact.

SomeBlackDude
01-23-2019, 06:14 PM
This actually didn't help your case, ready to get wrekt here it goesss

Bron took 90 shots and Wade took 108 shots

So, your saying Bron should have taken more shots and pushed Wade and Bosh aside?

Hint: He did, in 2012 and 2013. What happened then?

2011 Finals: Lost
Bron took 90 shots
Wade took 108 shots

2012 Finals: Chip
Bron took 108 shots
Wade took 92 shots

2013 Finals: Chip
Bron took 150 shots
Wade took 126 shots

Interesting...When Bron takes 20% less shots Wade couldn't win it but when Bron took 20% more shots...he wins it.

wow, i really got wrekt'd there.

just like dirk and the mavs did before bron joined the heat.


https://i.postimg.cc/N00hR9Qb/wade7-300-060620.jpg


good game.

good effort.

:cheers:

Phoenix
01-23-2019, 06:17 PM
Uhhh

2012 Goatbrook
24-6-5 on 46%

1996 6'1 Payton
19-7-4 on 48%

I
dont
think
so
buddy

-Westbrook took 4 more shots
-Sonics had 5 double digit scorers, Thunder 3
-Payton shot better, had more steals, less turnovers
- Payton DPOY, Westbrook :confusedshrug:

And1AllDay
01-24-2019, 05:30 PM
Wow a 10 ppg #2 option = Mikes best team he ever beat?

Is this tru? :eek:

How could he lose?

Overdrive
01-24-2019, 05:32 PM
Wow a 10 ppg #2 option = Mikes best team he ever beat?

Is this tru? :eek:

How could he lose?

AT steals and assist leader is.

And1AllDay
01-24-2019, 05:34 PM
AT steals and assist leader is.

Nah bruh he was outscored by Jeffrey Hornyshak

Overdrive
01-24-2019, 05:38 PM
Nah bruh he was outscored by Jeffrey Hornyshak

So scoring is the only stat that counts?

Elgin Baylor > Lebron

superduper
01-24-2019, 05:40 PM
So scoring is the only stat that counts?

Elgin Baylor > Lebron

Don't try to fight them with logic, they just come back with some nonsensical irrelevant deflection.

And1AllDay
01-24-2019, 05:42 PM
So scoring is the only stat that counts?

Elgin Baylor > Lebron

Uhhh


To find the #2 option yes thats about scoring :oldlol:

That aint a #2 optuon for rebounding :oldlol: Its for scoring bruh

Overdrive
01-24-2019, 05:44 PM
Uhhh


To find the #2 option yes thats about scoring :oldlol:

That aint a #2 optuon for rebounding :oldlol: Its for scoring bruh

Which tandem is better?

30PPG/5A/7R

10/25/25

or

30/5/7

12/5/5

TheCorporation
01-24-2019, 06:30 PM
Which tandem is better?

30PPG/5A/7R

10/25/25

or

30/5/7

12/5/5

#2 option = #2 scorer

#2 option =/= #2 rebounder

Real14
01-24-2019, 07:54 PM
Lebron's #2s in the finals he won:

Wade 2012: 22.6/6.0/5.2 52% TS

Wade 2013: 19.6/4.0/4.6 51% TS

Kyrie 2016: 27.1/3.9/3.9 56% TS


Here's Pippens in 96,97 and 98:

96: 15.7/8.2/5.3 43% TS

97: 20.0/8.3./3.5 54% TS

98: 15.7/6.8/4.8 50% TS

:confusedshrug:
End thread:roll:

And1AllDay
01-24-2019, 08:15 PM
End thread:roll:

Pippen did 21/8/8 with better DefRtg

Next

superduper
01-24-2019, 08:26 PM
Lebron's #2s in the finals he won:

Wade 2012: 22.6/6.0/5.2 52% TS

Wade 2013: 19.6/4.0/4.6 51% TS

Kyrie 2016: 27.1/3.9/3.9 56% TS


Here's Pippens in 96,97 and 98:

96: 15.7/8.2/5.3 43% TS

97: 20.0/8.3./3.5 54% TS

98: 15.7/6.8/4.8 50% TS

:confusedshrug:

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:




















































https://i0.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

Overdrive
01-24-2019, 08:46 PM
#2 option = #2 scorer

#2 option =/= #2 rebounder

Rebounds no, but assists definately. If one guy scores 1 point less, but has the ball more often and accumulates more assists he's definately the 2nd option.

Paul George 24
01-24-2019, 08:49 PM
This was your response to Jordan's laughably weak competition and extremely favorable circumstances? Should I just respond with 1/10 pre Pippen? :facepalm
PIPPEN IS SHIT WITHOUT JORDAN:banana:

TheCorporation
01-27-2019, 02:21 PM
PIPPEN IS SHIT WITHOUT JORDAN:banana:

Completely false...You have it backwards.

TheCorporation
01-31-2019, 01:18 AM
Some of LeBron's #2 options were tougher than MJ's #1 options even. I mean...wow

PickernRoller
01-31-2019, 10:45 AM
Lebron's #2s in the finals he won:

Wade 2012: 22.6/6.0/5.2 52% TS

Wade 2013: 19.6/4.0/4.6 51% TS

Kyrie 2016: 27.1/3.9/3.9 56% TS


Here's Pippens in 96,97 and 98:

96: 15.7/8.2/5.3 43% TS

97: 20.0/8.3./3.5 54% TS

98: 15.7/6.8/4.8 50% TS



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TheCorporation
01-31-2019, 11:34 AM
If you think about it Jordan's #2 option, Scottie Pippen, was better than the #1 option Jordan faced. Pippen averaged 21-9-8 with elite defense for 3 straight years. (91, 92, 93, look it up boys, sorry to say but it's true).

This is incredible when you think about it. It's no wonder he was finally able to get out of the first round once his team acquired a talent like Scottie Pippen.