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warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:21 PM
Love stats Pre-LeBron - 26/13/2/59% TS
Bosh stats Pre-LeBron - 24/11/2/59%TS
Pau stats Pre-Kobe - 19/8/3/59% TS
It's safe to say that Kevin Love and Chris Bosh were better than Pau Gasol before they joined with their new teams
LeBron needed Bosh and Love as third options when he won
Kobe had Paul Gasol as a second option when he won
LeBron would not win any championships with the 08-10 Laker teams
Akrazotile
01-24-2019, 09:23 PM
Ouch.
Kobe was the second option on title teams.
warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:24 PM
Ouch.
Kobe was the second option on title teams.
Le2011 was the second option on losing teams...
Gus Hemmingway
01-24-2019, 09:25 PM
Ouch.
Kobe was the second option on title teams.
Yikes :lol
Get those glucose levels up OP
keep-itreal
01-24-2019, 09:26 PM
When
LAmbruh
01-24-2019, 09:28 PM
Curry and Kobe fans have a mutual bond
They were both disrespectfully 4/44 - 0/55 their first handful of Finals
Akrazotile
01-24-2019, 09:28 PM
Le2011 was the second option on losing teams...
He gave Wade an opportunity to prove himself and it failed. After that Lebron took over first option duties and they won back to back. Even tho Wade was already washed up by that point.
Hey Yo
01-24-2019, 09:28 PM
Le2011 was the second option on losing teams...
So that means Wade couldnt lead his favored team to a title in 2011, correct?
What happen the following 2yrs when Wade handed the team over to LeBron?
warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:29 PM
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]When
warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:32 PM
He gave Wade an opportunity to prove himself and it failed. After that Lebron took over first option duties and they won back to back. Even tho Wade was already washed up by that point.
So that means Wade couldnt lead his favored team to a title in 2011, correct?
What happen the following 2yrs when Wade handed the team over to LeBron?
Wade was able to do it by himself before Bron came along for the ride. Shows you how bad LeBron really was in 2011. He got outscored by Jason Terry for Christ’s sake.
tpols
01-24-2019, 09:33 PM
no need to rub it in....
keep-itreal
01-24-2019, 09:34 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Kevin Loves 40 win Wolves would have made the playoffs in the East btw. That same year the Hawks were able to sneak into the Eastern playoffs with only 38 wins.
All players can
warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]Gasol
Hey Yo
01-24-2019, 09:40 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Wade was able to do it by himself before Bron came along for the ride. Shows you how bad LeBron really was in 2011. He got outscored by Jason Terry for Christ
keep-itreal
01-24-2019, 09:42 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Kevin Love didn
bigkingsfan
01-24-2019, 09:43 PM
20 7 GP
21 8 Karl
Pick one, that was his 4th option the year before.
warriorfan
01-24-2019, 09:45 PM
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]Didn
Dray n Klay
01-24-2019, 10:01 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]Kevin Loves 40 win Wolves would have made the playoffs in the East btw. That same year the Hawks were able to sneak into the Eastern playoffs with only 38 wins.
All players can
ShawkFactory
01-24-2019, 10:06 PM
Kevin love better than Gasol?
No thanks
G0ATbe
01-24-2019, 10:23 PM
Bosh and Love werent better than Gasol. And prime Shaq was better than Bosh/Love combined as well as Kobe.
Real14
01-24-2019, 10:31 PM
[QUOTE=keep-itreal]Didn
PickernRoller
01-24-2019, 11:02 PM
I don't think any objective basketball fan will argue that Kobe has done significantly more and achieved significantly more where it really matters with much much less than Lebron.
Kobe could only dream of having a Top 3 GOAT SG guard in Wade and an All-star PF in Bosh for his prime.
SouBeachTalents
01-25-2019, 12:00 AM
According to some people those third options were even better than Kobe
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12505070&postcount=48
superduper
01-25-2019, 12:09 AM
Bran stans getting absolutely destroyed
warriorfan
01-25-2019, 12:18 AM
According to some people those third options were even better than Kobe
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12505070&postcount=48
That list looks pretty accurate. By 2010 Kobe was 31 years old and lost a step. That is one of the reasons why his back to back titles with Pau as his second option were so impressive.
AussieSteve
01-25-2019, 03:51 AM
Ouch.
Kobe was the second option on title teams.
According to the Total Points Added metric, Kobe was 2nd option for all of his rings.
As per nbamath.com (https://nbamath.com/the-100-highest-peaks-reached-by-nba-players-in-the-modern-era/)...
[QUOTE]Yes, Kobe Bryant was a better basketball player than Pau Gasol. You may have noticed he has yet to appear in this countdown. But during the latter
kennethgriffen
01-25-2019, 03:54 AM
pau = 1 allstar game pre kobe
love = 3
bosh = 5
OP's onto something
warriorfan
01-25-2019, 04:03 AM
According to the Total Points Added metric, Kobe was 2nd option for all of his rings.
As per nbamath.com (https://nbamath.com/the-100-highest-peaks-reached-by-nba-players-in-the-modern-era/)...
Pau's three year peak (09-11) is rated as the 54th highest peak all time by this metric. There are 99 players who had peaks better than Kobe's 09-11 run.
https://i.postimg.cc/3RG44frz/A6-AA955-D-EFD6-4-EDC-A370-C03-F7-DBC08-FC.jpg
3ball
01-25-2019, 04:13 AM
Its common knowledge that Love and Bosh were better than most of the nba's FIRST options before joining Bron
Lebron's weak teamwork simply necessitates more talent than Kobe needed, or MJ, wade, Dirk, Duncan, Isiah, hakeem, 15-16' curry, etc
TheCorporation
01-25-2019, 04:17 AM
Ouch.
Kobe was the second option on title teams.
Well that was just too easy:lol Nice try, OP.
Gileraracer
01-25-2019, 05:06 AM
It's not a secret that Lebron had some of the most stacked teams ever and still lost
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