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3ball
01-26-2019, 10:56 AM
C Bosh 11-14' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boshch01.html#2011-2014-sum:per_game):.... 17.3... 7.4.. 1.6.. 57.8 ts.. 19.4 PER.. 0.168 ws/58

K Love 15-18' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html#2015-2018-sum:per_game):.... 17.1.. 10.0.. 2.1.. 57.3 ts.. 20.1 PER.. 0.169 ws/48
Tristan 15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomptr01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game):...... 8.1.... 0.7.. 8.7.. 59.4 ts.. 15.6 PER.. 0.169 ws/48

Jamison 10' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamisan01.html):...... 15.8.... 7.7.. 1.3.. 53.0 ts.. 16.7 PER.. 0.122 ws/48
Mo Will 09-10' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willima01.html#2009-2010-sum:per_game):... 16.9... 3.2.. 4.6.. 58.5 ts.. 16.7 PER.. 0.164 ws/48
Shaquille 10' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/onealsh01.html):...... 12.0... 6.7.. 1.5.. 56.5 ts.. 17.4 PER.. 0.115 ws/48

Zydrunas 05-09' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/ilgauzy01.html#2005-2009-sum:per_game):. 14.3... 8.2.. 1.3.. 54.2 ts.. 19.3 PER.. 0.153 ws/48

Pippen.... 89' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html):..... 14.4.... 6.1.. 3.5.. 52.4 ts.. 14.9 PER.... 0.80 ws/48

StrongLurk
01-26-2019, 10:56 AM
Based on this argument, Lebron is a top 3 player of all time.

Good job 3ball :applause:

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:00 AM
Based on this argument, Lebron is a top 3 player of all time.

Good job 3ball :applause:
No, it just means he had tons of good players, including 3rd, 4th and even 5th options that were equal or better than 89' pippen

Notice how Wade and Kyrie aren't even listed... It's understood that they were much better

Oh shit I forgot Kuzma.. :lebronamazed:

Uncle Drew
01-26-2019, 11:01 AM
**** no.


No. Pippen was FAR better on defense and more efficient on offense.


What?


God no, wtf


Is Jennifer Aniston better than Joel Embiid(at basketball)?


A better question is Ingram vs. 2019 Pippen.


I'm not sure he'd be better than 2019 Pippen.


Is this thread worth posting?


Hey guys, was Butterbean better than '89 Mike Tyson?


Are you F***** kidding me?


Brandon Ingram isn't better than Andrew Wiggins.


Yo... :lol:

What a weird-ass question. I'm legit laughing out loud at this. Literal LOL.

How did you even come up with this comparison?


The thread of this on ISH is just as funny. Damned shame the OP there was banned here, just for the comedy value. Poor guy legit believes Ingram better than Pippen (89 version) and seems to be questioning Ingram vs Pipp overall. Hilarious

lmao

StrongLurk
01-26-2019, 11:02 AM
No, it just means he had tons of good players, including 3rd, 4th and even 5th options that were equal or better than 89' pippen

Notice how Wade and Kyrie aren't even listed... It's understood that they were much better

You simply posted some basic stats and advanced stats...which is all I'm talking about as well.

Using this thought process, Lebron is clearly a top 3 player ever factoring in his production, efficiency, and advanced stats in the regular season, playoffs, AND finals.

bigkingsfan
01-26-2019, 11:09 AM
Ingraham 16.4 5.0 2.9 52.2 ts.. 11.8 PER.... 0.027 ws/48

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:09 AM
lmao
That was the Ingram/Pippen comparison

This is different - only Bosh, Love, Jamison, Mo, Zydrunas, Shaq Kuzma, and Tristan - all equal or better to 89' Pippen

So why don't you post this over on the other site? See what the responses are.. just quote the OP and then copy/paste the text into a new thread over there.. report back

Btw, the only reason people scoff at the ingram/pippen comparison is because we don't get to see with our own eyes how bad 89' pippen was - he would be 5-10 with these Lakers too, with worse production, handle, shooting and playmaking than ingram (which is what he was in 89')

And of course, Ingram doesn't have mj to get him better like pip did, so he's stagnating this year while pippen was coming into his own in year 3

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:13 AM
Ingraham 16.4 5.0 2.9 52.2 ts.. 11.8 PER.... 0.027 ws/48
As the 3rd and 4th option many nights, rather than the featured, clear-cut 2nd option tasked with getting MJ the ball

Pretty big difference.. the rest of this post is copypasta

And this thread isn't the ingram/pippen comparison - this is different - only Bosh, Love, Jamison, Mo, Zydrunas, Shaq Kuzma, and Tristan - all equal or better to 89' Pippen

So why don't you post this over on the other site? See what the responses are.. just quote the OP and then copy/paste the text into a new thread over there.. report back

Btw, the only reason people scoff at the ingram/pippen comparison is because we don't get to see with our own eyes how bad 89' pippen was - he would be 5-10 with these Lakers too, with worse production, handle, shooting and playmaking than ingram (which is what he was in 89')

And of course, Ingram doesn't have mj to get him better like pip did, so he's stagnating this year while pippen was coming into his own in year 3

Uncle Drew
01-26-2019, 11:19 AM
That was the Ingram/Pippen comparison

This is different - only Bosh, Love, Jamison, Mo, Zydrunas, Shaq Kuzma, and Tristan - all equal or better to 89' Pippen

So why don't you post this over on the other site? See what the responses are.. just quote the OP and then copy/paste the text into a new thread over there.. report back

Btw, the only reason people scoff at the ingram/pippen comparison is because we don't get to see with our own eyes how bad 89' pippen was - he would be 5-10 with these Lakers too, with worse production, handle, shooting and playmaking than ingram (which is what he was in 89')

And of course, Ingram doesn't have mj to get him better like pip did, so he's stagnating this year while pippen was coming into his own in year 3
You're being laughed at on two forums now, one of which you didn't even post on. That's a new low, even for you. :oldlol:

bigkingsfan
01-26-2019, 11:25 AM
Ingraham 2nd year first option

16.1 5.3 3.9 53.6 ts.. 13.8 PER.... 0.068 ws/48

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:26 AM
You're being laughed at on two forums now. One of which you didn't even post on. That's a new low, even for you. :oldlol:
My posts clearly get to you

But im just posting the truth.. if it entertains you guys that don't know enough to see it's validity, then that's fine too

G0ATbe
01-26-2019, 11:29 AM
lmao
:lol :lol :lol

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:34 AM
Ingraham 2nd year first option

16.1 5.3 3.9 53.6 ts.. 13.8 PER.... 0.068 ws/48
Ingram > 89' Pippen

Especially considering he didn't get the MJ boost like pippen did

But this thread isn't about Ingram - it's about 8 other lebron teammates that were > 89' Pippen... Lebron had far more help than MJ and most stars.. shit tons of help

btw, I realized the other day that lebron won't win shit with this team - I realized this once I learned that ONLY lebron played bad defense in his last 4 Finals losses - it's like, this guy is a FRAUD...

i.e. No spur or warrior scored more than 2 pts above there RS average in the 14/15/17/18 Finals, except Iggy (8.5 over his average), Durant (10.1), and Kawhi (5.0)... And McGee (4.0).. so Bron's teammates were playing their ass off and holding their man down, but lebron was the weak link that ruined it

JohnMax
01-26-2019, 11:38 AM
MJ was like Kuzma. He scored quickly which allowed teammates to play their games unlike Lebron ball.

bigkingsfan
01-26-2019, 11:41 AM
Ingraham

3ball
01-26-2019, 11:45 AM
Ingraham
Look how good Zydrunas was compared to 89' Pippen

Blows him away

bigkingsfan
01-26-2019, 11:52 AM
Ingraham