Anthony Davis trade request

[SpaceJam]

Agent Rich Paul has notified the New Orleans Pelicans that All-NBA forward Anthony Davis has no intention of signing a contract extension if and when presented and that he has requested a trade, Paul told ESPN on Monday.

PER WOJ.

[lilteapot]

cue laker fans foaming at the mouth despite the fact that theres no reason whatsoever New Orleans would trade him there.

[Uncle Drew]

Celtics?

[lilteapot]

Celtics?
according to basketball experts on twitter he cant be traded there until july since kyrie is there. rose rule or something.

[Kblaze8855]

I suppose it comes down to where he will extend. Why would a team throw a better off than the lakers if his agent tells him they are paying their future for 3 and a half months?

I suppose the Leonard situation will give teams hope but how many contenders can trade for him?

The Celtics can

[Uncle Drew]

according to basketball experts on twitter he cant be traded there until july since kyrie is there. rose rule or something.
Damn, that

[Kblaze8855]

according to basketball experts on twitter he cant be traded there until july since kyrie is there. rose rule or something.


Yea the Rose rule lets young players who have been named all nba get a larger than usual extension to reward them and keep them on their original team but you can

[Kblaze8855]

Damn, that’s some bullshit. Who says no in a trade around AD and Simmons? I wouldn’t hesitate a second if I’m the Sixers.


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But the Pelicans wouldnt do it of course.

[Real Men Wear Green]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Damn, that

[Haymaker]

If Celtics can make the best offer, I'm pretty sure NOLA can wait until July. Why rush it?

[Real Men Wear Green]

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But the Pelicans wouldnt do it of course.
I'd take that over a deal based on Ingram.

[beastee]

What do the Lakers really have to offer that won't gut the team? I guess they would have to sign Melo to help fill a roster....:roll:

[Kblaze8855]

A 27/13/4 24 year old for a 29/13/4 25 year old. I dont know if Philly talks itself into it for any reason but injury history.

[Uncle Drew]

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But the Pelicans wouldnt do it of course.
I’d take that over a Lakers offer around Ingram and/or Ball tbh.

[Kblaze8855]

The Bucks have quite a few options but since George Hill cant be traded with anyone else(more rules) they would have to do something like Brogdan, Bledsoe, and Middleton which leaves the best duo on the east....but no team around them.

[Haymaker]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]I

[Kblaze8855]

What do the Lakers really have to offer that won't gut the team? I guess they would have to sign Melo to help fill a roster....:roll:


Lakers deal is easy:


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[Real Men Wear Green]

If Celtics can make the best offer, I'm pretty sure NOLA can wait until July. Why rush it?
Depends on whether or not he would be willing to extend here. The Celtics would give up the world for him if he is willing to commit but with him having James' agent they better get some assurances that he may not be willing to give.

If I was Davis I wouldn't view James as the guy to hitch my career to due to his age but most players would prefer LA to Boston for weather, nightlife, etc. and Davis in LA would attract a star guard as soon as they had the cap space.

[Haymaker]

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[PickernRoller]

Bran for Davis lets get it done!

[beastee]

Lakers deal is easy:


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That can and will be beaten by several teams. If this was chosen it is league directed

[Kblaze8855]

Celtics can offer something way better than that. Plus attractive picks. New Orleans can wait until next summer. Hell, they can even wait until next season's trade deadline.



I dont think the Pelicans want Gordon during their rebuild and I dont think the Celtics giveup tatum which makes it something like this:

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Which really isnt that much more than other teams can offer.


IF they want Hayward its easy...but why would they? You starting over around a guy who started 17 games in two years and makes 31-35 million for the next 3?

[Haymaker]

I dont think the Pelicans want Gordon during their rebuild and I dont think the Celtics giveup tatum which makes it something like this:

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Which really isnt that much more than other teams can offer.


IF they want Hayward its easy...but why would they? You starting over around a guy who started 17 games in two years and makes 31-35 million for the next 3?

Why wouldn't Celtics offer Tatum? Ainge would miss a lifetime opportunity for a young talent with a questionable ceiling? Ainge is in win now mode.
This will make sure Kyrie will stay.

[BigTicket]

Guess we know who Lebron is picking 1st for the All-star game :lol

In reality I don't see how the Lakers can trade for him, unless Davis himself says that he won't go anywhere else. There are other teams that can offer the Pelicans a better package, and still have enough pieces left to be championship contenders.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I dont think the Pelicans want Gordon during their rebuild and I dont think the Celtics giveup tatum which makes it something like this:

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Which really isnt that much more than other teams can offer.


IF they want Hayward its easy...but why would they? You starting over around a guy who started 17 games in two years and makes 31-35 million for the next 3?
The Celtics may be able to offer 4 first round picks in the next draft.

And something not being considered: I bet Ainge would be willing to offer Irving if AD will commit. Ainge is ruthless like that. And if Irving is on the table along with all of those firsts some of the young talents can still be kept (they would have to be to get Davis to sign).

[Kblaze8855]

Whos picks do the Celtics have going forward? Because their own have little value...

[Kblaze8855]

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[raprap]

I like Simmons but if I

[Manny98]

There are other teams that can offer the Pelicans a better package, and still have enough pieces left to be championship contenders.
Like who?

Celtics can't make a trade till the summer and i don't see Philly giving away Simmons

[Real Men Wear Green]

Why wouldn't Celtics offer Tatum? Ainge would miss a lifetime opportunity for a young talent with a questionable ceiling? Ainge is in win now mode.
This will make sure Kyrie will stay.
Tatum would be offered if that's what it took to make the deal happen but the Celtics can't make a trade that turns them into the Pelicans. When the smoke clears they would beed to have Irving/Tatum/Davis, Irving/Brown/Davis, or Smart/Rozier/Brown/Tatum/Davis. If Davis is here with one star and a weak supporting cast what would be the point for him? He would leave and the Celtics would be worse. He might as well just stick in NO with Holiday.

[sbw19]

He's a Laker. Ball, Ingram (and possibly Kuzma) gone. So much for developing youngs. I've said before I would gut the team to get Brow, if that happens I'm hoping they keep Kyle.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Whos picks do the Celtics have going forward? Because their own have little value...
Kings, Grizzlies and Clippers with varying stipulations. If Kings fall apart one of those picks could be high but that doesn't look as likely at this point. Grizz pick is protected through top 8. The protection on the Grizz pick weakens year-by-year.

[Doranku]

Lakers deal is easy:


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Pau Gasol all over again. :lol What a dream come true this trade would be. I'd never have to see Ingram or KCP in a Lakers jersey again. :eek:

[LAVAR BALL]

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would never happen...and i'm so sad about it never happening.

If Oladipo xa snot injured, a deal to the Pacers would have been something i would have loved to see

Davis talked about championship-caliber team, really i don't see any team like that trading 3 members of their core for him.

If Ainge want to be in the mix i think he has no choice but to sacrifice his depth AND Irving (Only one Mega Max deal per team)

[raprap]

He's a Laker. Ball, Ingram (and possibly Kuzma) gone. So much for developing youngs. I've said before I would gut the team to get Brow, if that happens I'm hoping they keep Kyle.

If only Ingram made that jump to all star level this season. Don

[G0ATbe]

Already know we're gonna get him. Just hoping the trade will involve Ball/Ingram/KCP, maybe throw in Zubac if we have to.

Rondo
Hart
Kuzma
LeBron
AD

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[Real Men Wear Green]

He's a Laker. Ball, Ingram (and possibly Kuzma) gone. So much for developing youngs. I've said before I would gut the team to get Brow, if that happens I'm hoping they keep Kyle.

This is what I'm expecting except that they aren't going to be able to keep Kuzma. By the end of the season expect the Lakers to start James, Rondo (Davis' PG last season), Davis, and whoever's left.

[DMAVS41]

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But the Pelicans wouldnt do it of course.

What?

You are saying that the Pelicans wouldn't want Ben Simmons?

[Kblaze8855]

Just for a laugh....

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[DMAVS41]

The Bucks have quite a few options but since George Hill cant be traded with anyone else(more rules) they would have to do something like Brogdan, Bledsoe, and Middleton which leaves the best duo on the east....but no team around them.

This makes no sense for the Pelicans.

Bledsoe is expiring.

Brogdon is expiring.

Middleton will almost for sure enter free agency and not pick up his option.

So all those guys...would have to get paid in a free agency in which the cap is jumping. Makes absolutely no sense for the Pels.


Would be on the short list for worst deal ever.

[LAVAR BALL]

This is what I'm expecting except that they aren't going to be able to keep Kuzma. By the end of the season expect the Lakers to start James, Rondo (Davis' PG last season), Davis, and whoever's left.

Nola would never agree to a trade without Kuz.. If they do, i guess all Pels fan would hire a Hitman to handle Dell Demps

[LAVAR BALL]

I find the timing o fAD request really weird: basically he gives NOLA 2 weeks to find a deal and not lose him for free: way to put pressure on the franchise.

Is it a Rich Paul tactic for them to agree to a lowball offer from L.A?

If i'm NOLA and the bond is definitely broken i do it SA-to-Kawhi style and send it the further away from L.A

Is a Brow-for-Wall possible?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I find the timing o fAD request really weird: basically he gives NOLA 2 weeks to find a deal and not lose him for free: way to put pressure on the franchise.

Is it a Rich Paul tactic for them to agree to a lowball offer from L.A?

If i'm NOLA and the bond is definitely broken i do it SA-to-Kawhi style and send it the further away from L.A

Is a Brow-for-Wall possible?
With his contract I wouldn't want Wall for free.

[Kingwillball]

Lakers can trade ball, Ingram and Zubac who is actually key to trade..young big with nice upside can be a very nice player for many years..

[DMAVS41]

I find the timing o fAD request really weird: basically he gives NOLA 2 weeks to find a deal and not lose him for free: way to put pressure on the franchise.

Is it a Rich Paul tactic for them to agree to a lowball offer from L.A?

If i'm NOLA and the bond is definitely broken i do it SA-to-Kawhi style and send it the further away from L.A

Is a Brow-for-Wall possible?

The timing makes perfect sense for AD.

He doesn't want to wast the rest of this year and perhaps even time next year. It reduces the leverage the Pels have...so the team he ends up on won't be gutted to the extent it would be under different circumstances.

His agent has probably also said to all other teams other than the Lakers...and maybe another team like Philly (who knows)...that he's not staying if you trade for him.

So, it would be super hard for the Pels to turn down the KCP / Ball / Ingram / Kuzma package that the Lakers likely offer.

I posted a trade yesterday that I think makes even more sense...with Holiday going as well...as he'd be a damn near perfect fit next to Lebron / AD and his contract is actually quite nice going forward.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc52hl9v

With the Lakers throwing in 3 first rounders. That is the deal I'd want if I'm the Pels...and I'd want that if I'm the Lakers as well. Holiday at 26 million a year would be a huge get imo....and the Pels would rather have extra first round picks than pay Holiday a bunch on a team going nowhere.

Wall? No team in the league would take that contract likely.

[Ben Simmons 25]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Damn, that

[LAVAR BALL]

With his contract I wouldn't want Wall for free.

Hard for any team to put a correct package without losing their core.

would Boston really part way with Kyrie?

Depps is gonna sweat hard for the next 2 weeks anyway

[Ben Simmons 25]

Already know we're gonna get him. Just hoping the trade will involve Ball/Ingram/KCP, maybe throw in Zubac if we have to.

Rondo
Hart
Kuzma
LeBron
AD

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:roll: :roll:

[Haymaker]

I find the timing o fAD request really weird: basically he gives NOLA 2 weeks to find a deal and not lose him for free: way to put pressure on the franchise.

Is it a Rich Paul tactic for them to agree to a lowball offer from L.A?

If i'm NOLA and the bond is definitely broken i do it SA-to-Kawhi style and send it the further away from L.A

Is a Brow-for-Wall possible?

NOLA can wait until summer. Davis has another year in his contract and a player option after that.

[Nash]

IF AD tells everybody he ain't signing for anybody but the Lakers, Pelicans will have to trade him there.

For the Pelicans his value is declining by the minute. If Lakers give them a respectable trade offer, they could get him.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Hard for any team to put a correct package without losing their core.

would Boston really part way with Kyrie?

Depps is gonna sweat hard for the next 2 weeks anyway
If it meant they got to keep Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier? I believe so. Boston will be good for a long time regardless but having a perennial MVP candidate would mean guaramteed champioships with a real supporting cast and Ainge running the show.

[Kingwillball]

If Boston gets to finals goes to gm 6/7 with warriors why would they gut team ?

[DMAVS41]

NOLA can wait until summer. Davis has another year in his contract and a player option after that.

They can, but that is essentially just saying they think the Celtics will give them a much better offer than the Lakers.

Part of the great thing about trading him now is that the Pels can hard tank the rest of this season and get a pretty good pick.

Are the Celtics for sure giving up Tatum this summer? I mean...I'd expect they would, but what if he plays great in the playoffs again and the Celtics make the finals?

I don't know...seems like a lot of risk if you can get Ball / Ingram / Kuzma right now.

[LAVAR BALL]

NOLA can wait until summer. Davis has another year in his contract and a player option after that.

My bad, i thought he had his player option this summer

Lakers will be the one hard-pressed to sign Davis before they commit their money to a Big free agent during summer then. Not sure how Magic will handle all of it.

I think NOLA will have to wait how the free agents are being handed this summer. If LA miss on their target of a big free agents, NOLA will be able to ask for a Kuz + Hart + Draft/Rookie Whatever package

[DMAVS41]

If it meant they got to keep Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier? I believe so. Boston will be good for a long time regardless but having a perennial MVP candidate would mean guaramteed champioships with a real supporting cast and Ainge running the show.

But the Pels would never take Kyrie because he'd just leave this summer.

[jongib369]

I have sources that say he's going to The Mavs

[Uncle Drew]

Is this a joke? Clearly AD is better but there are two disclaimers to that statement... it goes out the window if Simmons gets a reliable mid range jumper and more importantly do you really believe Embiid and Davis are a better fit than Embiid and Simmons?

:roll:
Your entire point revolves around a hypothetical jumper for a guy who has made the same amount of jumpshots in the NBA as me: none. :oldlol: So yeah, I'd take the guy who isn't borderline unplayable in the postseason, and I think the Sixers would feel the same way. If you think AD isn't a good or a worse fit, you clearly haven't seen him play with Cousins, which was spectacular.

Then again, I'm responding to the dude who thought Ingraham is the next Durant, so there went all credibility out of the window.

[Kingwillball]

Lebron with AD would be sick..in pick and rolls and general those two and role players could get lakers to western finals..will need little more to beat warriors..ball, Ingram, zubac, and Hart for AD and Holliday ? Lakers going big with lebron AD and chandler/ McGhee would dominate glass or put lebron at 4 with kuzma at 3 and AD at 5 at times..would be some sick versatility..

[DMAVS41]

Unless the Lakers are refusing to include all of Ball / Ingram / Kuzma....

The Pels should just call up Philly and ask about Simmons. If they can get Simmons...he'd be the best get....even better than what the Celtics could offer.

You have a 22 year old stud cost controlled that can't leave for like 6 years.

If you can get that...you do it for sure.

If not, I think you pull the trigger on the Lakers offer (assuming they aren't stupid enough to lowball the Pels here)

[DMAVS41]

Lebron with AD would be sick..in pick and rolls and general those two and role players could get lakers to western finals..will need little more to beat warriors..ball, Ingram, zubac, and Hart for AD and Holliday ? Lakers going big with lebron AD and chandler/ McGhee would dominate glass or put lebron at 4 with kuzma at 3 and AD at 5 at times..would be some sick versatility..

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc52hl9v

[Ben Simmons 25]

Your entire point revolves around a hypothetical jumper for a guy who has made the same amount of jumpshots in the NBA as me: none. :oldlol: So yeah, I'd take the guy who isn't borderline unplayable in the postseason, and I think the Sixers would feel the same way. If you think AD isn't a good or a worse fit, you clearly haven't seen him play with Cousins, which was spectacular.

Then again, I'm responding to the dude who thought Ingraham is the next Durant, so there went all credibility out of the window.

There have been plenty of guys that have developed respectable jumpers... not elite but respectable... there’s no way Simmons plays for 10 years without a jumper... he already has one... it’s a confidence thing and actually doing it in game.

[Haymaker]

Lakers will be the one hard-pressed to sign Davis before they commit their money to a Big free agent during summer then. Not sure how Magic will handle all of it.


Yup. They should be aggressive if they don't want to lose him like they lost PG. Free agents will not fall into their laps every single time.

[Uncle Drew]

[QUOTE=Ben Simmons 25]There have been plenty of guys that have developed respectable jumpers... not elite but respectible... there

[Ben Simmons 25]

And what exactly tells us he'll ever get said confidence? By the way, hitting shots in an empty gym is not the same as having a jumper. Dwight Howard shot 85% on FTs in practices. How'd that work out?

You’re right about practice, no doubt about it, but that was psychological with Howard and it is with Simmons also.

He’s got to be put in a situation where a coach is forcing him to take them even if he’s missing...

https://streamable.com/19mlg

Dwight needed a Karl Malone routine and he never did it.

[Kingwillball]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yc52hl9v

Lakers not trading 8 guys away though..

I think zubac replaces Kuzma also in deal..

[moongaze]

It would be better for the league if Davis went to Boston. La will be trash in a few years after bronze departs. Davis can be part of a dynasty if he joins Kyrie in Boston.

[DMAVS41]

Lakers not trading 8 guys away though..

I think zubac replaces Kuzma also in deal..

Zubac could replace Kuzma.

Why wouldn't you trade 8 guys?

Half of them have no future on the team.

Rondo / KCP / Beasley / Wagner / Bonga are all irrelevant for the future of this team.

[Real Men Wear Green]

But the Pels would never take Kyrie because he'd just leave this summer.
You are most likely right but I wonder if Irvig really says no to the supermax.

[DMAVS41]

You are most likely right but I wonder if Irvig really says no to the supermax.

He would because he could go to NY and make way more money from the exposure there that is significantly better in terms of earning power than in New Orleans.

[PeroAntic]

AD and Payton for McColum and Nurkic

[DMAVS41]

AD and Payton for McColum and Nurkic

Pels would want to dump Hill...and would probably need 3 first round picks for that to make sense unless they think CJ is a superstar or something.

Not a bad idea if the Pels want to compete, but I'd much rather have young guys on rookie contracts.

[Hey Yo]

Another ****in' a$$hole player who refuses to honor the contract that he signed.

Just a POS like Kyrie.

[Derka]

Celts have the picks and the pieces to make it work but I'm predicting the Lakers. LA's doesn't have the pick bounty and we can yell back and forth about who has the better youngsters...but they've got Lebron and even an old Lebron is still Lebron.

[Kingwillball]

Zubac could replace Kuzma.

Why wouldn't you trade 8 guys?

Half of them have no future on the team.

Rondo / KCP / Beasley / Wagner / Bonga are all irrelevant for the future of this team.

I suppose your right but who fills out roster ? Do they have enough to fill out squad..

[PeroAntic]

Pels would want to dump Hill...and would probably need 3 first round picks for that to make sense unless they think CJ is a superstar or something.

Not a bad idea if the Pels want to compete, but I'd much rather have young guys on rookie contracts.
I mean CJ defintely has star numbers and his impact at Portland is evident.. more importantly, what NO must take into account is AD's wishes and the fact that they might lose him for nothing. They are not really in the position to ask for too much

[DMAVS41]

I mean CJ defintely has star numbers and his impact at Portland is evident.. more importantly, what NO must take into account is AD's wishes and the fact that they might lose him for nothing. They are not really in the position to ask for too much

Well, yea...

I'd just rather have young players on rookie contracts than properly paid older players.

But, like I said, it depends on what the Pels are after...and, of course, nobody is giving up a lot for AD if he and his agent are telling them he won't extend with them.

Lakers seem inevitable unless a team is willing to take a huge risk by giving up a ton without an assurance AD stays. Possible, but doubtful.

[DMAVS41]

I suppose your right but who fills out roster ? Do they have enough to fill out squad..

Can always find players...buyout market is about to hit.

Carroll likely gets bought out, for example...

My point is simply...if you can get Holiday / Davis and you have to give up some future firsts and some version of that package...

You just have to do it imo because Holiday's contract is going to be tough to beat in terms of dollar value in free agency in the coming years....and, of course, Holiday is really good on both sides of the ball and makes a lot of sense next to Lebron / AD

And this is about the next 3 years...not this year.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Another ****in' a$$hole player who refuses to honor the contract that he signed.

Just a POS like Kyrie.
Refusal to play would be dishonoring the contract. Requesting a trade is just be somewhere else. NO ca still hold on to him until his deal is up.

[sixerfan82]

[QUOTE=raprap]I like Simmons but if I

[kennethgriffen]

inb4 lakers miss out on another one


:lol

[LAVAR BALL]

You traitor LOL..

butler is the first to go for me..

keep simmons and embiid at all costs

Butler is free agent this summer, you won't trade him for anything before the end of the year

[LAVAR BALL]

inb4 lakers miss out on another one


:lol

you understand LA is one out of 29 teams which can try to make it work, right?

That means chance for them are 1/29 ==> about 3,4%

I don't know for you but if my life is on the line, i'd bet on the field to get A.D

[Hey Yo]

Refusal to play would be dishonoring the contract. Requesting a trade is just be somewhere else. NO ca still hold on to him until his deal is up.
He has another full year on his deal. Why bring it up now if he had intended to honor the contract until next years deadline?

Play out this season, let them know in the off season that he's not going to opt in at the end of 2020 and then go from there.

No need to for AD to bring it up this early other than he wants to be traded to a contender this year.

[chocolatethunder]

IF AD tells everybody he ain't signing for anybody but the Lakers, Pelicans will have to trade him there.

For the Pelicans his value is declining by the minute. If Lakers give them a respectable trade offer, they could get him.
Really? See Paul George

[kennethgriffen]

Anthony Davis tells Pelicans to trade him to contender

https://nypost.com/2019/01/28/anthony-davis-tells-pelicans-to-trade-him-to-contender/


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QICnCWPXnaw/hqdefault.jpg

[chazzy]

:applause: Let the games begin..

[Jasper]

Lebron gets his Love replacement in Davis.

So does Rondo , or Ball leave with Ingram or Koz ???








Walton traded - ouch

[chazzy]

Pros of trading now: more time with acquisitions, more time to tank for a better pick this year, less drama surrounding the team

[LAVAR BALL]

Really? See Paul George
You mean the guy playing at an MVP level who wanted to sign for Lakers at all cost, thus why they just choosed not to show him any love trading B.I for?

Stop being mean !

[Real Men Wear Green]

He has another full year on his deal. Why bring it up now if he had intended to honor the contract until next years deadline?

Play out this season, let them know in the off season that he's not going to opt in at the end of 2020 and then go from there.

No need to for AD to bring it up this early other than he wants to be traded to a contender this year.
Where in any of this are the terms of his contract violated?

[FireDavidKahn]

He's going to a big market. Some of ya'll are kidding yourself.

[Kingwillball]

He's going to a big market. Some of ya'll are kidding yourself.

Yup it

[PP34Deuce]

Boston can provide clear above average players and picks... Jaylen Brown, Rozier, Hayward, bunch of first's

LA will probably offer

Zubac (They are high on Wagner), Ingram, KCP and as many first's as they can give away.

I don't think they want to trade Ball.

[DMAVS41]

Pros of trading now: more time with acquisitions, more time to tank for a better pick this year, less drama surrounding the team

And the Celtics packages they can offer have lost quite a bit of luster as well.

Unless a team is willing to give up a ton for only 1 year guaranteed of AD...the Lakers have a real leg up here.

The Sixers, however, with Simmons have the best asset...so if AD was willing to sign there and the Sixers were willing to give up Simmons...

That would be the best package for the Pels...get a young all-nba caliber player that you control for like 6 years.

[beastee]

Small Market teams continue to get the shaft. Might as well get rid of 10 teams at this point and make super teams across the whole League.

[DMAVS41]

Boston can provide clear above average players and picks... Jaylen Brown, Rozier, Hayward, bunch of first's

LA will probably offer

Zubac (They are high on Wagner), Ingram, KCP and as many first's as they can give away.

I don't think they want to trade Ball.

Not Rozier...

He's going to be a free agent and his trade value is basically nothing now that he's about to properly paid.

A lot of the Celtics picks don't look good anymore either. Kings pick isn't going to be nearly as good as was once thought.

And Brown has lost a lot of trade value.

[DMAVS41]

Small Market teams continue to get the shaft. Might as well get rid of 10 teams at this point and make super teams across the whole League.

Small market teams do have it harder, but the Pelicans did an absolute horrible job building around Davis.

This was Cavs level bad building around Lebron his first stint there, well...no...not that bad...but they still made a ton of mistakes.

[beastee]

Small market teams do have it harder, but the Pelicans did an absolute horrible job building around Davis.

This was Cavs level bad building around Lebron his first stint there.

Holiday, Mirotic and Randle have been solid. If AD is a top 5 player in the league (He is), it's mostly on him. He should be a bigger impact on the win/loss than he is.

Now he is just crying foul because he knows his impact in this league is not championship caliber by himself. Lebron made this notion the norm, and now almost every top ten player has followed suit and forced their ways onto super teams. Really frustrating for the overall health of 30 teams, and it's easy to see why so many teams are tanking...it's the only chance they have at getting any kind of impact player.

[FireDavidKahn]

Small Market teams continue to get the shaft. Might as well get rid of 10 teams at this point and make super teams across the whole League.
Pretty much. Almost every time a a star or even a really, really good player is from a small market they'll leave after their rookie extension. Not all the time but the majority of the time.

[LAVAR BALL]

Small market teams do have it harder, but the Pelicans did an absolute horrible job building around Davis.

This was Cavs level bad building around Lebron his first stint there, well...no...not that bad...but they still made a ton of mistakes.

Hey, they took another all-star to team-up with AD. Cousins/Davis was a real cool thing. Too bad cousins injured himself

What messed the whole thing: the Portland trouncing, making them believe they could win without Boogie.

Aside of that...Well Randle is a great pickup, when not injured

[DMAVS41]

Holiday, Mirotic and Randle have been solid. If AD is a top 5 player in the league (He is), it's mostly on him. He should be a bigger impact on the win/loss than he is.

Now he is just crying foul because he knows his impact in this league is not championship caliber by himself. Lebron made this notion the norm, and now almost every top ten player has followed suit and forced their ways onto super teams. Really frustrating for the overall health of 30 teams, and it's easy to see why so many teams are tanking...it's the only chance they have at getting any kind of impact player.

I agree about AD to some extent...but he's given them a long time and he has no chance to compete with other franchises that have significantly more talent.

Just the nature of the league...he wants to win and he wants a little less pressure night in night out as well.

[Celtics 1825]

Danny Ainge vs LeGM :dancin

Too bad the fvcking Rose Rule is a thing or we could have this thing in the bag. Hopefully the Pels wait until the summer.

[Kingwillball]

Would be funny if AD went to Knicks..

[Im Still Ballin]

Keep: Ball

Trade: Kuzma + Ingram

[Kingwillball]

Keep: Ball

Trade: Kuzma + Ingram

Nope Kuzma would be perfect fit as 3rd guy/ scorer giving 15/20 a night and would play well off lebron and AD... Holiday and or rondo can handle the point...If SOMEHOW they kept Kuzma and traded ball, KCP, Ingram, and young Center who has looked great plus couple spare parts like Wagner, Ski ect plus pick for AD and Holiday..Holiday,Heart or Lance, Kuzma, Lebron, AD ...that

[FireDavidKahn]

Curious to Pelicans fans...After seeing how freaking much Hield has progressed would you still do the trade for Boogie?

Just for the sake of argument let's assume we know everything that happened, Buddy's improvement + Boogie's injury and him leaving.

Let's also assume another scenario where we know what Buddy has done so far vs. not knowing what happened with Boogie (by that I mean not knowing he would get injured and leave)?

Would you guys still be happy that your team made the trade and tried to pair a star with your star (AD)?

I totally get trying to trade for a star but it's always risky when they can leave that offseason and even more so if you're a small market team.

It's just...Buddy is transforming into one of the most dangerous offensive weapons in the NBA.

[LAVAR BALL]

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Nope Kuzma would be perfect fit as 3rd guy/ scorer giving 15/20 a night and would play well off lebron and AD... Holiday and or rondo can handle the point...If SOMEHOW they kept Kuzma and traded ball, KCP, Ingram, and young Center who has looked great plus couple spare parts like Wagner, Ski ect plus pick for AD and Holiday..Holiday,Heart or Lance, Kuzma, Lebron, AD ...that

[Ben Simmons 25]

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Nope Kuzma would be perfect fit as 3rd guy/ scorer giving 15/20 a night and would play well off lebron and AD... Holiday and or rondo can handle the point...If SOMEHOW they kept Kuzma and traded ball, KCP, Ingram, and young Center who has looked great plus couple spare parts like Wagner, Ski ect plus pick for AD and Holiday..Holiday,Heart or Lance, Kuzma, Lebron, AD ...that

[34-24 Footwork]

[QUOTE=Kingwillball]Nope Kuzma would be perfect fit as 3rd guy/ scorer giving 15/20 a night and would play well off lebron and AD... Holiday and or rondo can handle the point...If SOMEHOW they kept Kuzma and traded ball, KCP, Ingram, and young Center who has looked great plus couple spare parts like Wagner, Ski ect plus pick for AD and Holiday..Holiday,Heart or Lance, Kuzma, Lebron, AD ...that

[34-24 Footwork]

LeBron + AD is another "looks good on paper" scenario.

Lakers about to mortgage their future again for nothing.

[dbugz]

Ingram + Kuzma + Hart + KCP

If LA ain't willing to give up Kuzma might as well wait to end this season and go for a Celtics deal.

[Real Men Wear Green]

LeBron + AD is another "looks good on paper" scenario.

Lakers about to mortgage their future again for nothing.Compared to what they currently have? Sans James they would be one of the worst teams in the league. James and Davis will have a 2 or 3 year window to fill out a champ roster and then after that Davis by himself is more valuable than Kuzma Ball and Ingram combined.

[TheImmortal]

Compared to what they currently have? Sans James they would be one of the worst teams in the league. James and Davis will have a 2 or 3 year window to fill out a champ roster and then after that Davis by himself is more valuable than Kuzma Ball and Ingram combined.
They're just 4 games back from the 4th Seed.. :wtf:

[bobopenguin]

Ingram + Kuzma + Hart + KCP

If LA ain't willing to give up Kuzma might as well wait to end this season and go for a Celtics deal.

lol that's all?
i will do it in a heartbeat. bye bye kuz.

[PP34Deuce]

Lebron in year 3 will be still be a lower level 20PPG scorer. Scorers don't lose how to score.

[Nash]

It all comes down to what AD will say. If he's saying to every team but the Lakers that he WON'T sign with them, Pels will trade him now. I mean, if that is the case then who says Magic will give them everything?

And seing as how the news comes now and not in the summer, I actually believe this whole thing will be on Lakers terms.

[KOBEtherealKing]

They're just 4 games back from the 4th Seed.. :wtf:

And unless lebron comes back, they

[TheImmortal]

[QUOTE=KOBEtherealKing]And unless lebron comes back, they

[ronniec]

Ingram + Kuzma + Hart + KCP

If LA ain't willing to give up Kuzma might as well wait to end this season and go for a Celtics deal.

Let's not talk about who's package is better, Lakers' or Celtics'.

If Lakers trade away Ingram, Kuz, Hart, KCP, basically they are just a shit team. On paper they will have Lebron, AD, Ball, Rondo, plus whoever... then who are going to play for them? sign several free agents to fill up the roster?

People also forget one thing that AD wants to go to a contender.
Can a bare minimum Lakers plus AD get past the Rockets and Warriors?
Not a chance.

If AD wants the money, LA may be the better option.
If AD wants to win, then the East coast teams are the ones that he will consider.

So far, Celtics have the best offer among all, and even after trading their players/picks away, they are still a force in the East and have much better chance to get into finals than Lakers (also a better market than Toronto).

I guess, it is all up to Ainge if he wants to pull the trigger or not.
Celtics are on the driver seat.

[Celtics 1825]

They're just 4 games back from the 4th Seed.. :wtf:
And with him they WERE the 4th seed.

[bobopenguin]

Let's not talk about who's package is better, Lakers' or Celtics'.

If Lakers trade away Ingram, Kuz, Hart, KCP, basically they are just a shit team. On paper they will have Lebron, AD, Ball, Rondo, plus whoever... then who are going to play for them? sign several free agents to fill up the roster?

People also forget one thing that AD wants to go to a contender.
Can a bare minimum Lakers plus AD get past the Rockets and Warriors?
Not a chance.

If AD wants the money, LA may be the better option.
If AD wants to win, then the East coast teams are the ones that he will consider.

So far, Celtics have the best offer among all, and even after trading their players/picks away, they are still a force in the East and have much better chance to get into finals than Lakers (also a better market than Toronto).

I guess, it is all up to Ainge if he wants to pull the trigger or not.
Celtics are on the driver seat.

who are we kidding here? Let's be honest now, Lebron can take 4 NCAA kids to final..

[PP34Deuce]

Starting to notice why LA got Stephenson, Mcgee, Rondo, and Beasley

They got young vets that can get up and down the court.

Seems clear they are going to part with Zubac, Ingram, KCP ( or Hart) and Ball if they are able to get Holiday back.

[lilteapot]

Why would the Lakers trade all of their young pieces for AD if they're so confident they're signing AD anyway?

Lebron and AD with nobody else isn't going to take them very far.

[TheImmortal]

And with him they WERE the 4th seed.
That's it? You'd think with the self proclaimed "goat" they'd be higher than a 4 game differential.. should be much higher especially when you factor in strength of schedule (Lakers had the softest early schedule).

[AirTupac]

I lol @ people undermining AD going to LAL with LEBRON. You guys aren't even worthy of a proper response because youre so retarded.

[ronniec]

who are we kidding here? Let's be honest now, Lebron can take 4 NCAA kids to final..

Thank you for your troll.
What final you are talking about?

[superduper]

Bran is fking pathetic with his cheating ass owning a ****ing talent agency while being a player in the NBA :facepalm

How the fk is that NOT a conflict of interest?!?

How is this even allowed??

Handpicking coach/team entire career while team hopping from superstar teammates to superstar teammates when the last ship gets squeezed dry of everything it has and still 3/9.

LeGOAT!!

[Real Men Wear Green]

They're just 4 games back from the 4th Seed.. :wtf:What's the record without James?

[TheImmortal]

What's the record without James?
What's their record without Kuzma? :wtf:

[Haymaker]

Bran is fking pathetic with his cheating ass owning a ****ing talent agency while being a player in the NBA :facepalm

How the fk is that NOT a conflict of interest?!?

How is this even allowed??

Handpicking coach/team entire career while team hopping from superstar teammates to superstar teammates when the last ship gets squeezed dry of everything it has and still 3/9.

LeGOAT!!

Rich Paul is the owner of Klutch Sports. Lebron has no stakes in that. You might be confusing him with Maverick Carter, the guy who runs his empire.

[sammichoffate]

Rich Paul is the owner of Klutch Sports. Lebron has no stakes in that. You might be confusing him with Maverick Carter, the guy who runs his empire.https://i.postimg.cc/63p2wB3z/2019-01-28-12-57-57-Rich-Paul-Wikipedia.png
:coleman:

[chocolatethunder]

And the Celtics packages they can offer have lost quite a bit of luster as well.

Unless a team is willing to give up a ton for only 1 year guaranteed of AD...the Lakers have a real leg up here.

The Sixers, however, with Simmons have the best asset...so if AD was willing to sign there and the Sixers were willing to give up Simmons...

That would be the best package for the Pels...get a young all-nba caliber player that you control for like 6 years.
I love AD and I

[Real Men Wear Green]

What's their record without Kuzma? :wtf:I'm sure his absence hurts but he's not as important as James. Or even close.

But I do hope that LA passes on trading for Davis so that people like you can keep on pretending Kuzma is a superstar. Celtics will trade for him and win championships, James will spend his last few good seasons documenting Laker irrelevance on HBO and you can just go cry to your Kobe poster.

[DMAVS41]

Why would the Lakers trade all of their young pieces for AD if they're so confident they're signing AD anyway?

Lebron and AD with nobody else isn't going to take them very far.

Because they already ran that experiment and didn't even get a meeting with Paul George.

And, it likely won't be "all" of their young guys.

They'll probably keep Hart. Might even keep Zubac depending on how the deal manifests.

And, if the Lakers are smart, they try to get Holiday as well...because you aren't getting better value out of 26 million a year on the open market this summer than they would with Jrue.

[DMAVS41]

[QUOTE=chocolatethunder]I love AD and I

[Marchesk]

And, if the Lakers are smart, they try to get Holiday as well...because you aren't getting better value out of 26 million a year on the open market this summer than they would with Jrue.

I'd definitely pull the trigger on AD/Holiday if I were Magic.

[TheImmortal]

I'm sure his absence hurts but he's not as important as James. Or even close.

But I do hope that LA passes on trading for Davis so that people like you can keep on pretending Kuzma is a superstar. Celtics will trade for him and win championships, James will spend his last few good seasons documenting Laker irrelevance on HBO and you can just go cry to your Kobe poster. There you go again.. way to make this about Kobe in a thread not pertaining to Kobe and noone referencing Kobe. This is how you operate as an ambassador of ISH/ mod? :facepalm Could only imagine your alts.. :oldlol:

Further, it's odd that a so called Celtic fan would openly root for a Lakers team to acquire a superstar player to help their franchise.. might as well unravel yourself like your buddy Indian guy as a LeBron stan.. seems very fitting imho.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There you go again.. way to make this about Kobe in a thread not pertaining to Kobe and noone referencing Kobe. This is how you operate as an ambassador of ISH/ mod? :facepalm Could only imagine your alts.. :oldlol:Have you ever made a real point?


Further, it's odd that a so called Celtic fan would openly root for a Lakers team to acquire a superstar player to help their franchise.. might as well unravel yourself like your buddy Indian guy as a LeBron stan.. seems very fitting imho.Again you manage to fail the IQ test. Saying LA should trade for Davis is not rooting for it to happen. I also think the Dolphins should trade or draft for a quarterback with leadership skills. That make me a Dolphins fan? Your trolling sucks because everything you write is stupid.

[TheImmortal]

SMH

[kennethgriffen]

SMH


don't talk to him. its not worth it


i learned this many years ago



he's a troll that bans people when they talk back to him. its a losing battle right from the start

[Hey Yo]

Have you ever made a real point?

Again you manage to fail the IQ test. Saying LA should trade for Davis is not rooting for it to happen. I also think the Dolphins should trade or draft for a quarterback with leadership skills. That make me a Dolphins fan? Your trolling sucks because everything you write is stupid.
:oldlol:



https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-16-2015/z9YEyO.gif



nite nite, Immortal Roller

[TheImmortal]

don't talk to him. its not worth it


i learned this many years ago



he's a troll that bans people when they talk back to him. its a losing battle right from the start
I'm well aware of his prior transgressions. he's quite the piece of work. He's no different than say scuzzy (among the many other alts) except with "authority".

[chazzy]

And, if the Lakers are smart, they try to get Holiday as well...because you aren't getting better value out of 26 million a year on the open market this summer than they would with Jrue.
Yeah I'm not optimistic about signing a max guy this summer. Kawhi stays, warriors stay intact barring a meltdown.

[DMAVS41]

Yeah I'm not optimistic about signing a max guy this summer. Kawhi stays, warriors stay intact barring a meltdown.

Could the Pels say no to this?

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yawn4h92

With the Lakers including their 19 / 21 / 23 / 25 first round picks...first 3 unprotected and the 25 pick top 5 protected.

Pels could flip KCP to another team (like the Sixers) for another pick as well I bet.

Because waiting until the summer means it is either Boston or LA...and if something weird happens with Boston (title / injury...Kyrie leaves...etc.) then the Lakers would have all the leverage if AD said that is the only place he'll sign.

I'd pull the trigger on this now. Pels should call up Magic and take it all for Jrue / Davis imo.

[bison]

Yeah I'm not optimistic about signing a max guy this summer. Kawhi stays, warriors stay intact barring a meltdown.

Lakers don't have to hit a home run here. We don't need an MVP level player necessarily. Just simply an all star caliber player will make us contenders this summer. Klay, Kemba, M. Gasol, KP etc would be massive. Even Tobias Harris gives you a capable scoring 3 point shooter. Lebron+All-star free agent+a young core with more experience & chemistry+vets on 1 year contracts and we are DEEP

[SamuraiSWISH]

LeBron is getting long in the tooth. Leonard isn’t going there. They need to snatch AD up ASAP. Trade the overrated young pieces they have a litany of on the roster.

That or hopefully the Celtics could get him. Which I much rather see, personally. Make the east stronger.

[DMAVS41]

Lakers don't have to hit a home run here. We don't need an MVP level player necessarily. Just simply an all star caliber player will make us contenders this summer. Klay, Kemba, M. Gasol, KP etc would be massive. Even Tobias Harris gives you a capable scoring 3 point shooter. Lebron+All-star free agent+a young core with more experience & chemistry+vets on 1 year contracts and we are DEEP

It isn't just about the Lebron years though...and this is where Davis is getting undervalued imo.

He's about to only be 26.

You can find guys that can play the roles you need if you had Lebron / AD and a guy like Jrue or another all-star caliber player.

[Gus Hemmingway]

I'm sure his absence hurts but he's not as important as James. Or even close.

But I do hope that LA passes on trading for Davis so that people like you can keep on pretending Kuzma is a superstar. Celtics will trade for him and win championships, James will spend his last few good seasons documenting Laker irrelevance on HBO and you can just go cry to your Kobe poster.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[brooks_thompson]

Well, I guess it's time to see if Demps has the balls Pritchard and Popovich had. But this just seems like one year long obvious setup. The Lakers middling crap should not be nearly enough unless they do a 4 first round picks type deal, or at least 2 picks and 2 swaps. If you're gonna cave, Demps, then clean em out.

[hiphopanonymous]

Finally the Lakers will get a veteran superstar that can lead them to the promised land

The young core didn't have enough help

[Haymaker]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]LeBron is getting long in the tooth. Leonard isn

[sammichoffate]

Jw, if Lakers sign Jrue w/ AD do they still have cap for a max free agent this summer?

[dbugz]

It should be Ingram + Kuzma + Hart and some fillers or forget about it.

[DMAVS41]

Jw, if Lakers sign Jrue w/ AD do they still have cap for a max free agent this summer?

Nope. Would only have around 20 million in cap iirc.

[atljonesbro]

Why wouldn’t the 76ers offer a package around Simmons? It would by far be better than anything the Lakers could imagine offering

[sammichoffate]

Nope. Would only have around 20 million in cap iirc.Damn, so it's essentially between having Jrue/Davis/LeBron/Third Option FA like Middleton/Tobias Harris and 2 Max Players(who might not sign), LeBron, and current roster.

[fourkicks44]

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Why wouldn

[Haymaker]

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Why wouldn

[sammichoffate]

[QUOTE=atljonesbro]Why wouldn

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol @ thing league ignoring the BLATANT tampering of This scenario (similar to Tyson Chandler).

This one is EXTREMELY obvious. The timing of this information even coming out leaves the Celtics out Of the equation if they don't wanna trade Kyrie.

Funny how that works. Pretty bold shit for the league NOT to investigate. Yikes...

[sammichoffate]

Lol @ thing league ignoring the BLATANT tampering of This scenario (similar to Tyson Chandler).

This one is EXTREMELY obvious. The timing of this information even coming out leaves the Celtics out Of the equation if they don't wanna trade Kyrie.

Funny how that works. Pretty bold shit for the league NOT to investigate. Yikes...They can't trade for him till the summer anyways though. I think DMAVs mentioned earlier this is a good time to do the request so whatever team he goes to isn't completely gutted since it lowers his value a bit. Still, it's p convenient that it also works out for the Lakers.

[atljonesbro]

Simmons can't shoot. :roll:
Brandon Ingram and and Lonzo Ball are not pieces at all... Ben Simmons is an elite perimeter defender who

[dbugz]

Bench his @ss.

Tank!

New Orleans don't need to rush this.

Wait until the season ends where Celtics and Warriors can join.

More choices for them the better.

The most logical way to handle this if I were NO front office.

[raprap]

Do you guys think the Pels trade him this season or they

[Kingwillball]

Nba is better with lebron on relevant team they get way higher viewership so it

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=raprap]Do you guys think the Pels trade him this season or they

[DMAVS41]

Damn, so it's essentially between having Jrue/Davis/LeBron/Third Option FA like Middleton/Tobias Harris and 2 Max Players(who might not sign), LeBron, and current roster.

Middleton and Harris are both getting well over 20 million a year I think.

I'd imagine the Lakers keep Hart.

So it would be Hart / Lebron / Davis / Jrue...and like 13-15 million in cap.

The Lakers can't get 2 max players this off season and keep current roster like you say above.

Lebron is at 37
Ingram / Ball / Hart / Kuzma will be at 20.

So even if they got off of everyone else...they'd have like 50 million in cap and that isn't close to enough for 2 max players.

[coin24]

I would rather trade lebron for AD and keep Kuzma and Hart..
Not overly fussed on Lolzo or Ingram.. both are replaceable

Gutting the whole team for AD leaves us in a shitty position. especially if that idiot magic sends away future first round picks

[sammichoffate]

Middleton and Harris are both getting well over 20 million a year I think.

I'd imagine the Lakers keep Hart.

So it would be Hart / Lebron / Davis / Jrue...and like 13-15 million in cap.

The Lakers can't get 2 max players this off season and keep current roster like you say above.

Lebron is at 37
Ingram / Ball / Hart / Kuzma will be at 20.

So even if they got off of everyone else...they'd have like 50 million in cap and that isn't close to enough for 2 max players.Hm, good point. If they ended up pulling the trigger, I could see them going hard after guys like Bogdanovic or Danny Green this offseason. Guys like Aminu and Harkless would work too, they just need that last spot to be a 3&D player.

Still, I think the Pelicans might just wait til they see Boston's offer because it's better than the Lakers imo. I would imagine they do Tatum+Brown or 2 1st round picks+Smart+2 1st round Picks+Salary

[bullettooth]

Trade AD for LeBron. Nobody in Los Angeles wants LeBron. He's done and he's a proven loser.

[Kblaze8855]

I would rather trade lebron for AD and keep Kuzma and Hart..
Not overly fussed on Lolzo or Ingram.. both are replaceable

Gutting the whole team for AD leaves us in a shitty position. especially if that idiot magic sends away future first round picks

A Lebron/AD team is gonna have shitty first round picks for about 3-4 years anyway.

If you are gonna trade Lebron dont do it for someone who might come for free. You trade him for someone you cant otherwise get. You can trade parts for AD and trade Lebron for younger parts and picks if you want.

[Ben Simmons 25]

What about Klay Thompson and Draymond Green along with some future picks for Anthony Davis and filler?

Might be able to keep KD... is it worth it?

I think so... Draymond is still really good but he’s fallen off the hardest in the past 3 years and Klay will regress more than Davis in 3 years... would New Orelans do it?

Would Golden State?

Curry
Durant
Davis
Cousins


Ouch.

[Kblaze8855]

I thought about that earlier but the Pelicans arent trading a guy who is a FA next summer for a guy who is unrestricted in 3 months....and Draymond.

[G0ATbe]

Don't see why Sixers would wanna do a twin towers experiment. we already saw it doesnt work out in todays NBA with AD/Cousins. Simmons/Embiid is a better fit especially when simmons finally stops being a p*ssy and takes jumpshots.

[NuggetsFan]

It'll never happen because Davis won't re-sign with Denver but if he was willing to commit .. Denver might be the best option. Millsap/Harris/Murray for Davis/E.Moore/S.Hill.

Davis/Jokic and we'd still have lots of talent left. M.Morris, Beasley, Plumlee, Barton etc. Pelicans get a future star in Murray and a fringe All-Star in Harris who's locked up. Millsap expiring.

I'm about 95% certain he winds up in L.A tho :lol

[raprap]

Pels are pissed. Wants this to get investigated for tampering lol

[bladefd]

[QUOTE=raprap]I like Simmons but if I

[BigShotBob]

Saw this coming a mile away, but what I find hilarious is that if AD is serious about joining a championship contender, then the Lakers should not be on his radar. Teams in the west such as OKC, Nuggets, and Rockets, should be on his radar and teams in the East should be the Celtics, Bucks, 76ers and Raptors.

But apparently he doesn't want to go to Boston, one of the three legitimate championship contending teams (along with the Warriors and the Raptors).

If he already made up his mind (due to his agent) then this is tampering and collusion and it has no place in our league.

Jk. I don't really care.

[bladefd]

I find the timing o fAD request really weird: basically he gives NOLA 2 weeks to find a deal and not lose him for free: way to put pressure on the franchise.

Is it a Rich Paul tactic for them to agree to a lowball offer from L.A?

If i'm NOLA and the bond is definitely broken i do it SA-to-Kawhi style and send it the further away from L.A

Is a Brow-for-Wall possible?

They can wait until summer or next year to trade him. AD has another year remaining on his deal.

[Akrazotile]

Started out in Akron now we HERE.

[Kblaze8855]

The statement they released makes it seem like they don

[eliteballer]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]The statement they released makes it seem like they don

[Spurs m8]

This league is full of pvssies.

We can thank LeRoid for this kind of weak shit

[DMAVS41]

The statement they released makes it seem like they don’t want to deal with the Lakers and I don’t blame them. This might go sideways and he ends up traded for picks to some team he won’t sign with just to spite la for a year. They might take a worse deal just so he doesn’t end up in la right away.

I hope they call around and try to find a team he will stay with just to Paul George them.

I agree and it would be fun to watch the Lakers miss out here...especially because the Lakers have mismanaged pretty much everything other than a couple things for half a decade now.

I also think the Raptors are a dark horse here.

Val, Siakam, OG, and a few future firsts with limited protections might allow the Raptors in the conversation.

You trade him out of conference and actually have a pretty darn good team on paper right away with potentially a bright future... 3 years from now could be a legit team if things go your way on some picks.

[brooks_thompson]

That's the thing...if they take a stand and don't trade him to the Lakers, he will never get there in free agency. The Lakers will be forced to spend their cap this summer for Lebron to save face. They're not gonna just toss another year away to wait for AD. So it's pretty simple, as long as Demps has balls, AD to LA is a longshot, and if it's gonna happen it's gotta be in the next 2 weeks.

[CelticBaller]

Davis won

[Celtics 1825]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Davis won

[highwhey]

The statement they released makes it seem like they don’t want to deal with the Lakers and I don’t blame them. This might go sideways and he ends up traded for picks to some team he won’t sign with just to spite la for a year. They might take a worse deal just so he doesn’t end up in la right away.

I hope they call around and try to find a team he will stay with just to Paul George them.
suns get: AD
pelicans get: Ayton, 2019 1st, TJ Warren (43% 3pt shooter) and 2019 bucks 1st

as a suns fan, i can dream, but if pelicans want a good haul and spite LA at the same time....

[DMAVS41]

suns get: AD
pelicans get: Ayton, 2019 1st, TJ Warren (43% 3pt shooter) and 2019 bucks 1st

as a suns fan, i can dream, but if pelicans want a good haul and spite LA at the same time....

But he's just going to leave after next year so that doesn't make any sense.

[highwhey]

But he's just going to leave after next year so that doesn't make any sense.
a feeler can be made dummy. same with kyrie (and we heard through the back channels that kyrie wouldn't resign so we didn't proceed).

[thefatmiral]

Does he want to win or does he want to be on LA. Probably just wants to be in bright lights of LA , sit next to movie stars. Players who do that are real insecure about themselves. Kawhi . AD and lebron will be lakers next year.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Does he want to win or does he want to be on LA. Probably just wants to be in bright lights of LA , sit next to movie stars. Players who do that are real insecure about themselves. Kawhi . AD and lebron will be lakers next year.

No they won't... the Lakers don't have the cap space and/or assets to land both.

Unfortunately, I think the only hopes the Lakers have at a title moving forward is if Golden State breaks up this off season... which they probably will lose at least KD or Klay... but maybe not.

[DMAVS41]

a feeler can be made dummy. same with kyrie (and we heard through the back channels that kyrie wouldn't resign so we didn't proceed).


A feeler?

He said he wants to play for a winning franchise...not one of the worst franchises in the NBA while gutting them of any noteworthy prospects in the process.

:facepalm

[Hopper15]

:sleeping AD isn't elevating anyone past Golden State.

[Ben Simmons 25]

:sleeping AD isn't elevating anyone past Golden State.

If Boston were able to somehow pull off a miracle trade before the deadline and field a lineup of...

Irving
Smart
Hayward
Horford
Davis

So something like... Rozier, Tatum, Brown, Morris, multiple first round picks for Davis...

I wouldn't be so sure... that's pretty ****ing nasty. They could even bring Hayward off the bench to keep their depth more balanced and sign a ring chaser at some point here shortly.

And if they could somehow keep Rozier because New Orleans has no need for him... well... damn.

edit: nevermind, they can't trade for him with Kyrie still on the roster, I keep forgetting. But fast forward to the offseason and the deal looks something like that... still nasty for next year.

[Celtics 1825]

If Boston were able to somehow pull off a miracle trade before the deadline and field a lineup of...

Irving
Smart
Hayward
Horford
Davis

So something like... Rozier, Tatum, Brown, Morris, multiple first round picks for Davis...

I wouldn't be so sure... that's pretty ****ing nasty. They could even bring Hayward off the bench to keep their depth more balanced and sign a ring chaser at some point here shortly.

And if they could somehow keep Rozier because New Orleans has no need for him... well... damn.

edit: nevermind, they can't trade for him with Kyrie still on the roster, I keep forgetting. But fast forward to the offseason and the deal looks something like that... still nasty for next year.
I'd rather not keep Rozier but that lineup would be amazing :bowdown:

[highwhey]

A feeler?

He said he wants to play for a winning franchise...not one of the worst franchises in the NBA while gutting them of any noteworthy prospects in the process.

:facepalm
i said "i can dream" dipsh1t. read more carefully next time. :facepalm

[AirTupac]

i said "i can dream" dipsh1t. read more carefully next time. :facepalm


Are you as retarded as your franchise? RIP like your cat.

[And1AllDay]

This league is full of pvssies.

We can thank LeRoid for this kind of weak shit

Ingram sucks

[Duncan21formvp]

Trade Lebron, Kuzma and Ingram for him.

[Marchesk]

Trade Lebron, Kuzma and Ingram for him.

LOL!

Why not just Lebron straight up for AD? Go with the young talent and the future. Let Lebron take the Pelicans to the playoffs. :lol

[Rico2016]

Trade Lebron, Kuzma and Ingram for him.

This is why low IQ people dont get to be GM :oldlol:

[scuzzy]

This is why low IQ people dont get to be GM :oldlol:
GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:

[Rico2016]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

[highwhey]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:
https://i.postimg.cc/4NKgJ30m/banderas.png

[raprap]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:
Ooof

:roll:

[And1AllDay]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:

:oldlol: :eek:

[Ben Simmons 25]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:

:roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

GM?


They can't even go 5 posts before being banned on RealGM :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/BvsKz5rs/giphy.gif

[hold this L]

Lakers deal is easy:


http://pichost.org/images/2019/01/28/lakers.png
WTF would any team accept that? It's such a dumb deal unless you're the Lakers. :lol

[TheCorporation]

WTF would any team accept that? It's such a dumb deal unless you're the Lakers. :lol

Agreed. There is no way we don't end up giving up Kuzma, Zubac, Hart or maybe even all three but again, there is no way we get AD without giving up at least ONE of those three.

[nashwade]

Lakers must keep Lebron, Rondo, Kuzma and Rondo (Zubac if possible). Everyone else can be traded

[SpaceJam]

Lakers must keep Lebron, Rondo, Kuzma and Rondo (Zubac if possible). Everyone else can be traded

Facts, Rondo is good, but also so is Rondo. Keeping em both is essential

[34-24 Footwork]

WTF would any team accept that? It's such a dumb deal unless you're the Lakers. :lol

Kblaze is the biggest troll on the forum if he thinks that bullshit trade would fly :lol

[Kblaze8855]

It’s not about if id do it. We were making trades that work.

I wouldn’t do most of the deals that guys in this position get dealt for.

Maybe one in 3 gets near his worth because they intentionally sabotage their team.

I’m petty enough to make the lakers wait even if AD ruins the plan telling every other team he won’t stay but if the hornets aren’t?

They kinda have to take the deal on the table or get nothing.

I’d trade him to a team willing to risk it just out of spite but I don’t know who is out there for that deal.

[ImKobe]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9wwczga

plus Lakers give up a first

Two potential star players locked in for 2+ years and a first is more than enough for a guy who's leaving for nothing in FA.

The thing is that if AD is 100% set on going to LA as a FA, no other team's giving up more than that. Zo and BI are locked in for 2-3 years and they have chemistry with Randle and you still keep everyone else around them.

[dbugz]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9wwczga

plus Lakers give up a first

Two potential star players locked in for 2+ years and a first is more than enough for a guy who's leaving for nothing in FA.

The thing is that if AD is 100% set on going to LA as a FA, no other team's giving up more than that. Zo and BI are locked in for 2-3 years and they have chemistry with Randle and you still keep everyone else around them.

LOL :roll: :roll:

Kuzma and Hart should be there or forget about it.

Deal with it.

[ImKobe]

LOL :roll: :roll:

Kuzma and Hart should be there or forget about it.

Deal with it.

It's not going to happen. If they strike a deal, those are the guys leaving LA this season. Kuzma and Hart are not leaving, we're not giving up all 3-point shooters :lol

imagine that team. AD/Bron/Rondo & filler. NO might get Zubac in that deal too, but Kuzma is staying 100% and so will Hart. Bron loves 3-point shooters.

[dbugz]

It's not going to happen. If they strike a deal, those are the guys leaving LA this season. Kuzma and Hart are not leaving, we're not giving up our only 3-point shooters :lol

NO is pissed. Not happening.

Go for Kawhi instead.

[ImKobe]

NO is pissed. Not happening.

Go for Kawhi instead.

Pissed? Maybe they should have thought about putting a solid roster around AD, who's been in the league for over 6 years now.

The experiment has failed. Scrap it and take the two young guys and a future first. You then essentially have the Lakers' core of last year and Jrue and Mirotic and a lottery pick coming in this year, it's not the end of the world.

[dbugz]

Pissed? Maybe they should have thought about putting a solid roster around AD, who's been in the league for over 6 years now.

The experiment has failed. Scrap it and take the two young guys and a future first. You then essentially have the Lakers' core of last year and Jrue and Mirotic and a lottery pick coming in this year, it's not the end of the world.

Their FO sucks but they're the one who's going to decide on where is AD's going to get traded. AD's half season and next season is on their hand. They have so many options.

Sit AD's @ass.

Tank for a higher pick. They could even have a chance on getting Zion.

Wait for Boston who can give you much better trade.

Even if AD doesn't want to commit for a re-sign and trade, there will be many suitors out there.

Just look how desperate Toronto is renting Kawhi for a season.

[Haymaker]

Like I've been saying :pimp:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25874557/pelicans-rush-anthony-davis-deal-overwhelmed

[tanibanana]

Best shot for Lakers is Ball/Kuzma/Ingram and future pick..
I feel Pelicans agree with this.

[Haymaker]

If I were Sam Presti I would offer Westbrook right away. They got PG and a solid cast to take their team to the WCF. He gets two chances at it before AD decides to leave.

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]It

[hold this L]

People who think KCP would be involved in this trade, a bum ass dude with a 1 year deal are either mentally ill or dumb to spectacular levels. Kuzma, Lonzo, Ingram, Zubac. At least 2 of the first 3 will be involved, and likely Pels won't consider anything under 3 of those 4 players. People act like Lakers have all the cards (and they do have a lot of them), but they can't afford to wait until father time hits Lebron and then get AD. Pels have no reason to acquire bums like KCP when they allow AD to go to the other side.

Presuming he goes to the Lakers which seems like he's pushing.

[Jasper]

here's really the deal about AD going some where else....

If the Pelican's truly want to work with him , LIKE JABBAR and Milwaukee ,,
thy have to listen to the Lakers
If they want to be dip-shlts , they will wait till summer and deal him to Boston.

Here is the catch -
AD has little playoff experience , and once in the EAST he may like his chances and just run with it , and a new contract.

If money isn't as big an issue , he will become a free agent either with Pelicans or Boston , and go to the Lakers.

2 years Bron , may be legit on his twilight years , and maybe have one year of solvent ability to make a ring run...

[Jasper]

Facts, Rondo is good, but also so is Rondo. Keeping em both is essential
I'd say Rondo , and Rondo , needs to be kept , but must keep rondo for sure...

hahahahahaaaaa

[Kblaze8855]

People who think KCP would be involved in this trade, a bum ass dude with a 1 year deal are either mentally ill or dumb to spectacular levels. Kuzma, Lonzo, Ingram, Zubac. At least 2 of the first 3 will be involved, and likely Pels won't consider anything under 3 of those 4 players. People act like Lakers have all the cards (and they do have a lot of them), but they can't afford to wait until father time hits Lebron and then get AD. Pels have no reason to acquire bums like KCP when they allow AD to go to the other side.

Presuming he goes to the Lakers which seems like he's pushing.

KCP makes 12 million dollars. He

[Ben Simmons 25]

[QUOTE=Kblaze8855]KCP makes 12 million dollars. He

[PP34Deuce]

They are going to try Ingram, Zubac, KCP, a bunch of firsts and try their best not to lose Kuzma or Ball.

I don't think Lebron will play until the trade deadline passes. They've said he's been doing contact defensive drills and practice. Sounds like he's waiting for the dust to settle and will adjust his approach to playing after.

[pastis]

I dont care what others say: prime Dirk would have taken this pelicans squad to Playoff appearancs every single year. easily. even post prime Dirk would do it.

[TheCorporation]

They are going to try Ingram, Zubac, KCP, a bunch of firsts and try their best not to lose Kuzma or Ball.

I don't think Lebron will play until the trade deadline passes. They've said he's been doing contact defensive drills and practice. Sounds like he's waiting for the dust to settle and will adjust his approach to playing after.

How tf can L.A. keep Kuz and Ingraham. No chance

[90sgoat]

2 years Bron , may be legit on his twilight years , and maybe have one year of solvent ability to make a ring run...

Good point, this all depends on how much Lebron declines.

He could be due for a massive decline next season, leaving AD much less interested to go to LA.

[NBAGOAT]

I dont care what others say: prime Dirk would have taken this pelicans squad to Playoff appearancs every single year. easily. even post prime Dirk would do it.

this pelicans team is truly terrible defensively however. people see ad+jrue but dont realize how trash the rest of the lineup are and ofc alvin gentry is no defensive coach. I dont like avery johnson that much but he always deserved credit for that. Dal was great defensively from 04-06 and that wasnt because of dirk

[DMAVS41]

this pelicans team is truly terrible defensively however. people see ad+jrue but dont realize how trash the rest of the lineup are and ofc alvin gentry is no defensive coach. I dont like avery johnson that much but he always deserved credit for that. Dal was great defensively from 04-06 and that wasnt because of dirk


I'll assume you mean 05-07 because the Mavericks had a terrible defense in 04.

Davis is great, but it is hard to imagine a franchise first player like Dirk that made everyone better...not making the playoffs in his prime and struggling like this so often it seems.

Who knows though...like you say, some of those Mavs teams were pretty good...but at the same time...nobody after Nash left even approaches being as good as Jrue.

[ImKobe]

Their FO sucks but they're the one who's going to decide on where is AD's going to get traded. AD's half season and next season is on their hand. They have so many options.

Sit AD's @ass.

Tank for a higher pick. They could even have a chance on getting Zion.

Wait for Boston who can give you much better trade.

Even if AD doesn't want to commit for a re-sign and trade, there will be many suitors out there.

Just look how desperate Toronto is renting Kawhi for a season.

They are in prime position to tank for a pick right now. Trade AD so you don't finish around .500. Have Zo and BI there and get all the shooting coaches they need, tank for a high lotto pick right now and have a young core with a promising future.

Celtics won't give them a much better trade unless AD commits to Boston, and Boston won't be able to make a deal (unless they do Irving for AD) before the end of the season. By then, Boston could have won a title and wouldn't even give up anyone half decent. What's Boston going to give you? Tatum, some filler & a few firsts? That's not better, it's pretty much the same except you waste this season by finishing 9-10th with AD.

They're not going to bench a 100% healthy Davis.


I dont care what others say: prime Dirk would have taken this pelicans squad to Playoff appearancs every single year. easily. even post prime Dirk would do it.

Every single year? It's not happening. Put rookie Dirk in rookie AD's place and he makes the same amount of Playoffs. Dirk himself missed a lot of games as a rookie so that rules his rookie year out, then look at some of those rosters & injuries and the amount of wins needed each year to make the POs. Dirk missed the Playoffs his first two seasons. It's not like AD has a player of a caliber of Steve Nash on his roster right now, or a coach as good as Don Nelson.

[E_Stamkos]

NOLA brass is talking a big game now but I feel like once the hoopla subsides, they'll get backed into a corner where they have no choice but to heed this ugly uni'worms demands.

[sammichoffate]

They are in prime position to tank for a pick right now. Trade AD so you don't finish around .500. Have Zo and BI there and get all the shooting coaches they need, tank for a high lotto pick right now and have a young core with a promising future.

Celtics won't give them a much better trade unless AD commits to Boston, and Boston won't be able to make a deal (unless they do Irving for AD) before the end of the season. By then, Boston could have won a title and wouldn't even give up anyone half decent. What's Boston going to give you? Tatum, some filler & a few firsts? That's not better, it's pretty much the same except you waste this season by finishing 9-10th with AD.

They're not going to bench a 100% healthy Davis.



Every single year? It's not happening. Put rookie Dirk in rookie AD's place and he makes the same amount of Playoffs. Dirk himself missed a lot of games as a rookie so that rules his rookie year out, then look at some of those rosters & injuries and the amount of wins needed each year to make the POs. Dirk missed the Playoffs his first two seasons. It's not like AD has a player of a caliber of Steve Nash on his roster right now, or a coach as good as Don Nelson.Boston has Tatum, Brown, Smart, filler, and at least two lottery picks(MEM and SAC). If they keep Brown, they can add two more first rounders, that's a better haul imo.

[dbugz]

They are in prime position to tank for a pick right now. Trade AD so you don't finish around .500. Have Zo and BI there and get all the shooting coaches they need, tank for a high lotto pick right now and have a young core with a promising future.

Celtics won't give them a much better trade unless AD commits to Boston, and Boston won't be able to make a deal (unless they do Irving for AD) before the end of the season. By then, Boston could have won a title and wouldn't even give up anyone half decent. What's Boston going to give you? Tatum, some filler & a few firsts? That's not better, it's pretty much the same except you waste this season by finishing 9-10th with AD.

They're not going to bench a 100% healthy Davis.



Everyone knows how Lakers are getting desperate already.

Heck even if NO will not trade AD yet this season. Lakers will still pursue getting him after this season.

My point is, there's no need to rush trading him. Again, tank for better pick and wait for more choices/offers after this season.

Win win situation for them.

[LostCause]

If the Lakers get AD and Kawhi next year, I like them over Golden State. That defense would be amazing. Unless the Warriors somehow keep Cousins, KD and Klay

That said, I think it makes more sense for AD to try and get to Boston. That team has a much larger window than LA has, as well as an established great coach and GM. They're also just as decorated historically as LA

[Jasper]

does everyone remember when no one wanted to come play for the Lakers after Kobe and the owners son was ruining the organization.

So they had no choose but to go after draft picks , and hope for a rebuild.

Owners daughter gets control , and in comes Majic... in comes Bron , so now
they are in phase II of a rebuild of a franchise.
IF they let all of their draft picks go , some already went to Cav's and now to Pelican's they will show ZELlllll- CH for a franchise for 6 years. .. :lol :lol :lol

They have to be all in on Davis , because of Lebron's window(.)
* That means Kuzman ' is gone. , besides Ingram , Hart , Ball and about 3 draft picks.

[CelticBaller]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9wwczga

plus Lakers give up a first

Two potential star players locked in for 2+ years and a first is more than enough for a guy who's leaving for nothing in FA.

The thing is that if AD is 100% set on going to LA as a FA, no other team's giving up more than that. Zo and BI are locked in for 2-3 years and they have chemistry with Randle and you still keep everyone else around them.
Why are lakers stains still using this dumb logic?

Paul George, Butler and Kawhi were dead set in going into teams and they got traded to teams they didn

[bladefd]

Boston has Tatum, Brown, Smart, filler, and at least two lottery picks(MEM and SAC). If they keep Brown, they can add two more first rounders, that's a better haul imo.

I doubt Boston is willing to give up Tatum. They should be though for AD.

[LAVAR BALL]

[QUOTE=CelticBaller]Why are lakers stains still using this dumb logic?

Paul George, Butler and Kawhi were dead set in going into teams and they got traded to teams they didn

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I don't see AD being traded to LA either.

He's got a house in LA and the same agent as LeBron. That's where the buck stops though.

Unless AD says verbatim that'll be his destination, other teams have more to offer than LA. For starters? Boston.

[LAVAR BALL]

I don't see AD being traded to LA either.

He's got a house in LA and the same agent as LeBron. That's where the buck stops though.

Unless AD says verbatim that'll be his destination, other teams have more to offer than LA. For starters? Boston.

Despite his play this season, i guess every team in need of a franchise player of the future would look at Tatum. Add a Memphis and/or a Sac pick, filler, and LA can't beat that

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-saints-ownership-factor-anthony-201903144.html

[Nash]

Lakers get: AD, filler
Pelicans get: Lebron, Bradley Beal, John Wall
Washington get: Jrue, Mirotic, Lonzo, Ingram, picks

This should happen.

[sbw19]

does everyone remember when no one wanted to come play for the Lakers after Kobe and the owners son was ruining the organization. It was the management (mostly Jim Buss) rather than Kobe. Kobe's rapid decline due to injury in addition to his massive salary later on didn't help any, but before that happened he was the only positive in a rudderless basketball environment, where they chased away the right coach, replaced him with the wrong one, signed Nash to that horrible contract (and later Deng and Mozgov) and what naturally followed was mediocrity.

Now (after Rich Paul announcing trade request) the Lakers are in a precarious situation especially if they don't capitulate to its timing and likely King's random they'll be asked to give up to land AD.

If they stand pat until the summer, the lockerroom dynamic will irrevocably be changed. No longer will LeBron be looked at as the leader that's got their back, now that they know he's essentially turned them into trading chips through the tactics of his buddy who is in control. I'd be awkward as hell.

Detractors love to bring up Kobe'e trashing of Bynum and feud with Shaq as proof of how selfish/much of a cancer he had been at times. Now Kobe's no saint and can be ruthless at times I'll be the first to admit.

But compared to how often LeBron leverages his influence to ship teammates out of town for perceived personal gains though? Got to be on a level hitherto unheard of (LeKing level if you will.)

Never seen anything like it before, doubt ever will once he retires.