Jokic vs. Harden. They ARE different. A Game Thread. (HOU@DEN)

[elementally morale]

The ultimate team player vs. the ultimate on an island player.

[zizozain]

Harden is the smoothest NBA player

[LoneyROY7]

Harden eating.

[elementally morale]

Interesting quarter. If the rest goes like the fist, Nuggets win this. Those 3 point percentages are not to be kept up for Houston.


Jokic: 5 of 6 for 10 points
Harden. 5 of 6 for 15 points

Rockets lead by 8.

I think Denver will take it. Jokic can keep it up. Harden can not.

[zizozain]

knowing what the defense is allowed to do and not allowed to do, taking full advantage of current NBA rules, his foul-drawing mastery, arm clamping, acting/flopping,
Harden's offensive game has changed NBA

[elementally morale]

knowing what the defense is allowed to do and not allowed to do, taking advantage of current NBA rules, his foul-drawing mastery, arm clamping, acting/flopping,
Harden's offensive game has changed NBA

That last play he made Jokic commit the foul. :facepalm

[imdaman99]

The ultimate team player vs. the ultimate on an island player.
Huh? Would the ultimate team player play such bad defense? Team play is more than just making passes to cutting guys.

[Celtics 1825]

Why are there 2 threads?

[Smook A.]

This is the worst perimeter defense I've ever seen. Make some ****ing stops

[elementally morale]

Huh? Would the ultimate team player play such bad defense? Team play is more than just making passes to cutting guys.


I'm sorry. Jokic is the ultimate team player. He doesn't care what he gets. Just wants his team win. Ability is another matter.

[elementally morale]

Why are there 2 threads?


Some idiots. Of course not me. Nevermind.

[Smook A.]

Holy **** they can't miss

[Celtics 1825]

Nuggets are unstoppable right now

[LukeWalton]

still 2nd quarter and already over 80 points :applause:

[Celtics 1825]

83 points in the first half :eek:

[elementally morale]

Interesting quarter. If the rest goes like the fist, Nuggets win this. Those 3 point percentages are not to be kept up for Houston.

I think Denver will take it. Jokic can keep it up. Harden can not.


:applause:
:bowdown:

[zizozain]

That last play he made Jokic commit the foul. :facepalm
watch the way Swaggy p always defended him in Drew League (or last NBA WCF), or google Kentavious Caldwell-Pope defense on Harden.
coaches and players should do that too.

[NuggetsFan]

Huh? Would the ultimate team player play such bad defense? Team play is more than just making passes to cutting guys.

No idea why you push this narrative. Maybe cause Denver destroyed NY on the Melo trade, or Jokic ended up being better than Porzingis.

Check the numbers. Jokic is similar to M.Gasol defensively without the rim protection. He's an average defender. M.Gasol was able to protect the rim. Jokic can't do that .. however his hands, IQ, and positioning are all elite for C.

[imdaman99]

I remember when the Knicks and Heat used to play in the 90s. The final score would be 70-69 certain games :lol

I appreciated defense even though it forced ugly offense. I would like something in between that and what we have now.

[imdaman99]

No idea why you push this narrative. Maybe cause Denver destroyed NY on the Melo trade, or Jokic ended up being better than Porzingis.

Check the numbers. Jokic is similar to M.Gasol defensively without the rim protection. He's an average defender. M.Gasol was able to protect the rim. Jokic can't do that .. however his hands, IQ, and positioning are all elite for C.
Can you stop pushing this narrative that Jokic is an average defender? I have eyes, I know he isn't :lol

The truth is he prob can't play defense, he's not in NBA shape and he plays in Denver.

[sbw19]

On either team all but one player are shooting 50% or better from the floor (Rivers 1/3 , Lyles 1/3)

Both teams with more assists than rebounds.

[NuggetsFan]

Can you stop pushing this narrative that Jokic is an average defender? I have eyes, I know he isn't :lol

Why do all the stats back it up than? Why is his DRTG, DBPM all good?

He absolutely struggles with rim protection. He however is great at positioning, has great hands, and is a smart player. I mean I haven't even checked but I think as a C he leads the Nuggets in steals :oldlol:

I get it bro. I remember the back and forths years ago. Melo was a bust, Kristaps just got traded. Nuggets did ya dirty!

[imdaman99]

Why do all the stats back it up than? Why is his DRTG, DBPM all good?

He absolutely struggles with rim protection. He however is great at positioning, has great hands, and is a smart player. I mean I haven't even checked but I think as a C he leads the Nuggets in steals :oldlol:

I get it bro. I remember the back and forths years ago. Melo was a bust, Kristaps just got traded. Nuggets did ya dirty!
Is he a better defender than Plumlee? I'm sure the numbers will tell you he is. But we know the truth :oldlol:

Also, fk KP. I won't root for him no more :lol

Nuggets still ain't contenders. They don't play enough defense.

[NuggetsFan]

Is he a better defender than Plumlee? I'm sure the numbers will tell you he is. But we know the truth :oldlol:

Also, fk KP. I won't root for him no more :lol

Nuggets still ain't contenders. They don't play enough defense.

He isn't as good defensively as Plumlee. Plumlee is a great defender. Jokic isn't. Jokic is flawed. He's M.Gasol if Gasol couldn't protect the rim. Which makes him average. Some games awful, some games great, some games decent. Which is what the stats reflect. Like if Jokic is bad defensively .. prove it. You can't he's just a white euro that can't jump.

Yeah were not contenders. Look at how young this team is. Were still 2-3 years away. Were chalk filled with young talent tho. Didn't even have to tank for it either.

[elementally morale]

If the rest goes like the fist, Nuggets win this. Those 3 point percentages are not to be kept up for Houston.


Jokic: 5 of 6 for 10 points
Harden. 5 of 6 for 15 points

Rockets lead by 8.

I think Denver will take it. Jokic can keep it up. Harden can not.


Thank you all. Good night.

[Celtics 1825]

Harden's disappeared this quarter

[Indian guy]

Harden throwing up a whole lot of garbage from behind the 3pt line in this game (and for a while now). Just not a sustainable style of play.

[Smook A.]

I'm not watching this shit anymore, this is ****ing torture as a Rockets fan

Malik Beasley and this Morris guy look like ****ing Curry and Klay out there on their hot shooting nights

We have a career 5 ppg scorer named Torrey Craig who already has a career high 18 points and the 3rd quarter isn't even over yet.

**** this shit man

[elementally morale]

Harden throwing up a whole lot of garbage from behind the 3pt line in this game (and for a while now). Just not a sustainable style of play.


I told you all so in the 1st quarter. When the rockets were leading by 8.



I think Denver will take it. Jokic can keep it up. Harden can not.

:cheers:

[elementally morale]

I'm not watching this shit anymore, this is ****ing torture as a Rockets fan

**** this shit man


Jokic is having a quiet triple double. Not yet, but he will get there. By the end of this game it will be like 28/16/11 on 70% FG for him.

[stalkerforlife]

Is he a better defender than Plumlee? I'm sure the numbers will tell you he is. But we know the truth :oldlol:

Also, fk KP. I won't root for him no more :lol

Nuggets still ain't contenders. They don't play enough defense.

Jokic owns your soul.

Damn.

[Celtics 1825]

Harden about to start chucking to hit 30

[Mask the Embiid]

Not gonna lie, this Nuggets team has a chance to lose to the Warriors in the conference finals.

I like them over the lakers and rockets(if cp3 is hurt).If they dont have to play gsw in the 1st 2 rounds they will make it to the conference finals.Where they will then lose 4-1 :applause:

Huge jump from not making the playoffs to getting your shit pushed in by gsw in 5 in the conference finals.

If they can keep this core i like them over the warriors next year

[sbw19]

In a game predicated on matchups, not having Capella out there against a Jokic/Millsap frontcourt is such a huge disadvantage.

He's Houston's only reliable rim protector too, and their small lineup can't keep up with Denver's combination of size and skill.

[Celtics 1825]

Harden's about to stat pad his 30 :lol

[Celtics 1825]

Called it, he got it in garbage time lol

[bigkingsfan]

Jokic trying to stat pad that td

[thefatmiral]

What a jackass. Staying in a blowout for stats. Fake mvp. Manufactured vp.