Tom Brady

[warriorfan]

He’s now won 3 questionable titles where he didn’t have great impact. Today hurt his legacy if anything. He ain’t no Joe.

[Smoke117]

What are you, his retarded half brother that put in a nice home and now you feel like you need to suck up to him now. Jesus fuking christ, you mongoloid shit eating fakkot. Kill yourself.

[TheMan]

Both QBs missed chances at putting their teams in position to scores TDs...only Brady sucked a little than Goff.

NE D holding the Rams offense to only 3 points is the real reason they won.

[Kblaze8855]

I dont know what kind of grade to give it. By his standards maybe a D+ but grading without a curve? C or C+. Maybe better. The pick was a mistake but also a tip drill situation not caught by the initial defender who almost got it. And they recovered his fumble. They won off the run game, defense, and Edleman shredding ankles but im sure a lot of those runs were adjustments at the line that he called. They won...so its not a performance to make a big deal of. But its also not the kinda thing you watch and come out thinking the QB decided anything.

[DidUSaySomethin]

I dont know what kind of grade to give it. By his standards maybe a D+ but grading without a curve? C or C+. Maybe better. The pick was a mistake but also a tip drill situation not caught by the initial defender who almost got it. And they recovered his fumble. They won off the run game, defense, and Edleman shredding ankles but im sure a lot of those runs were adjustments at the line that he called. They won...so its not a performance to make a big deal of. But its also not the kinda thing you watch and come out thinking the QB decided anything.


by his standards? brady isn't elite in the postseason w/ a 2.1 TD/INT ratio. the SB only confirms what i already knew a long time ago

[Kblaze8855]

This is where we get to a point you have to go past numbers. For one.....QBs dont always let loose in close games or games they lead. If the Rams had not been totally obliterated by Bills defense im sure Brady would have done more...but bottom line he didnt do that much. But he didnt need to do that much. I think we should all be able to agree he was not the reason they won....but that he did what was required of him. What else is any QB supposed to do?

Which is why I say its below his standards but not bad by normal standards. He did was a QB is supposed to do in that situation. Not **** up and give the other team life in a tight defensive struggle.

[dude77]

He did was a QB is supposed to do in that situation. Not **** up and give the other team life in a tight defensive struggle.

this is pretty much it in a nutshell .. y'all acting like brady wouldn't have picked it up had there been more scoring .. he rises to the occasion when needed just like he did in the afc title game .. he did just enough of what was needed and didn't make any mistakes which could give the game away and walks out with yet another sb win

[kennethgriffen]

JE was superbowl mvp


how was that possible without tom brady. he got yardage to keep the punt team within the correct distance to kick the ball to the 1-5 yard line all game


he did his job until he saw an opening and nailed gronk on the monkey which basically won the game

[warriorfan]

Wasn

[ScalsFan21]

This win was "Belichick driven" for sure. You knew Gronk would want to go out with a bang if he's done too.

[highwhey]

very underwhelming. the defense really showed up tho, they carried the pats to a win. shoutout to the refs for the pivotal call against the rams just as they were forming a run for the first time the entire game, clutch performance by the refs :applause:

[ImKobe]

He had a game-winning drive. You can say that he didn't throw any TDs but that throw to Gronk was basically a TD.

Plus he outplayed Rivers & Mahomes to get to the SB.

[ArbitraryWater]

terrible, as was the game itself.


this game literally pushed me back from having him as co-GOAT or whatever to saying there isn't a GOAT, or its not him.

its a team game. he was shit and got carried.

[highwhey]

He had a game-winning drive. You can say that he didn't throw any TDs but that throw to Gronk was basically a TD.

Plus he outplayed Rivers & Mahomes to get to the SB.
objection, we're discussing last night's performance.

secondly, while that game winning drive was great, also a great catch, it happened after the refs called a BS holding call against the rams when they had gained momentum for the first time this entire game, such a pivotal call even had tony romo puzzled as to why the refs called it even after reviewing the replay. if that flag isn't thrown, the rams had a good chance of scoring...that's not to say brady wouldn't have replied, he most likely would have found a way to respond and score, but then the game is likely tied again and anything can happen in the last minutes of a superbowl game. instead, the refs pulled the plug on the ram's drive and the patriots ran away with the W afterwards. also, the defense isn't getting the credit they deserve. they locked down Goff.

[nathanjizzle]

He played awful. definitely a mark on his track record.

[ImKobe]

objection, we're discussing last night's performance.

secondly, while that game winning drive was great, also a great catch, it happened after the refs called a BS holding call against the rams when they had gained momentum for the first time this entire game, such a pivotal call even had tony romo puzzled as to why the refs called it even after reviewing the replay. if that flag isn't thrown, the rams had a good chance of scoring...that's not to say brady wouldn't have replied, he most likely would have found a way to respond and score, but then the game is likely tied again and anything can happen in the last minutes of a superbowl game. instead, the refs pulled the plug on the ram's drive and the patriots ran away with the W afterwards. also, the defense isn't getting the credit they deserve. they locked down Goff.

OP says he has 3 titles with questionable impact, do we only count the SB game and leave out the AFC Playoffs to get there?

His road win against the Chiefs was his greatest achievement, they don't get to play in the SB if he doesn't do what he did in 4th + OT.

It was a clear hold, they showed the replay. If you're basing all of it on Romo's commentary then I'm not even going to take you seriously.

If the Rams didn't drop the TD/throw the pick, you don't think that Brady goes down the field and puts his team in a position to score a game-winning FG/TD? They were at 4th & 1 when they opted to kick the FG with under 2 mins left to pretty much ice the game. And this is just with them running the ball to milk the clock. The Rams' defense was finished at that point. I believe that if the Rams tie the game at 10 all, Patriots kick the game-winning FG or go for the touchdown, the game was wide open at that point.

Flags went both ways in this game, pretty sure the Rams got away with a few holds and PIs on the Patriots, you knew the refs were going to make safe calls after the fiasco in the Rams-Saints game.

[warriorfan]

He had a game-winning drive. You can say that he didn't throw any TDs but that throw to Gronk was basically a TD.

Plus he outplayed Rivers & Mahomes to get to the SB.

Can we say Jim Kelly basically won 4 Super Bowls?

[highwhey]

OP says he has 3 titles with questionable impact, do we only count the SB game and leave out the AFC Playoffs to get there?

His road win against the Chiefs was his greatest achievement, they don't get to play in the SB if he doesn't do what he did in 4th + OT.

It was a clear hold, they showed the replay. If you're basing all of it on Romo's commentary then I'm not even going to take you seriously.

If the Rams didn't drop the TD/throw the pick, you don't think that Brady goes down the field and puts his team in a position to score a game-winning FG/TD? They were at 4th & 1 when they opted to kick the FG with under 2 mins left to pretty much ice the game. And this is just with them running the ball to milk the clock. The Rams' defense was finished at that point. I believe that if the Rams tie the game at 10 all, Patriots kick the game-winning FG or go for the touchdown, the game was wide open at that point.

Flags went both ways in this game, pretty sure the Rams got away with a few holds and PIs on the Patriots, you knew the refs were going to make safe calls after the fiasco in the Rams-Saints game.
what's debatable is it's timing and discretion to call it at such a pivotal moment for the rams. it's a call that gets missed both ways all too often, if you claim otherwise, you're lying to yourself. after said call, it was ALL downhill for the Rams, hence the change in momentum call. refs really helped the patriots, and there defense was much better than brady was the entire game, hence my claim to his not so strong claim for "goat". he doesn't make it very far without an elite defense.

[imdaman99]

When it comes to winning the Super Bowls, Belichick is easily the more important person. His gameplans :eek:

[Derka]

very underwhelming. the defense really showed up tho, they carried the pats to a win. shoutout to the refs for the pivotal call against the rams just as they were forming a run for the first time the entire game, clutch performance by the refs :applause:
You mean that same drive where the Rams fumbled out of bounds, had a false start and two plays earlier were gifted a holding call on 3rd and 11? Yeah that one call was the real killer there. :rolleyes:

[MaxFly]

You mean that same drive where the Rams fumbled out of bounds, had a false start and two plays earlier were gifted a holding call on 3rd and 11? Yeah that one call was the real killer there. :rolleyes:

Right...

[ArbitraryWater]

You mean that same drive where the Rams fumbled out of bounds, had a false start and two plays earlier were gifted a holding call on 3rd and 11? Yeah that one call was the real killer there. :rolleyes:

they werent gifted anything, that was a textbook hold :oldlol:

[DidUSaySomethin]

this is pretty much it in a nutshell .. y'all acting like brady wouldn't have picked it up had there been more scoring .. he rises to the occasion when needed just like he did in the afc title game .. he did just enough of what was needed and didn't make any mistakes which could give the game away and walks out with yet another sb win


he didn't rise to the occasion against the giants, broncos, ravens, jets, eagles (last year), etc

[DidUSaySomethin]

He had a game-winning drive. You can say that he didn't throw any TDs but that throw to Gronk was basically a TD.

Plus he outplayed Rivers & Mahomes to get to the SB.

he didn't outplayed mahomes. threw 2 picks and 1 TD against one of the worst defenses. besides, any mediocre QB can have a game winning drive when it's the RB/ FG kicker who scores. brady was below average in the postseason

[Wally450]

If Brady's legacy is hurt, then Curry doesn't have a legacy. :lol