Would Durant and Harden be 2 of the 3 best players in the NBA in the 90s?

[superduper]

Like they are now? Or would Durant get bodied up like he does by Daddy Tony Allen and would Harden get laid the fk out for his antics?

The 90s would devour these fools.

[qrich]

Harden wouldn't be better than a Cuttino Mobley.

[Smook A.]

Harden wouldn't be better than a Cuttino Mobley.
That's bullshit and you know it

[Duncan21formvp]

They might be on Sprewell's level during that time.

[TheCorporation]

Well MJ is like a modern day DeMar which is like top 50 in the league so...

I think they'd be alright :pimp:

[bigkingsfan]

They both shit on Drexler

[TheCorporation]

They both shit on Drexler

Now imagine Jordan having a cakewalk Finals versus ONLY Drexler meanwhile LeBron was fighting KD, Harden, AND Westbrook in the Finals :roll:

Can't even make this up.:roll:

[ImKobe]

Harden doesn't even get the opportunity to start with his no-defense playing ass. He'd get exposed and attacked on every possession, plus he wouldn't get away with any of this shit. At best he's what he was at OKC.

KD OTOH would still be great, he can play in the post and he has the mid-range shot.

[superduper]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson

[bison]

They would be the equivalent of laphonso Ellis and Eddie Jones

[ImKobe]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson

Not a great comparison. I'd say Reggie was basically a rich man's Klay Thompson. Take into account the rule changes and how he was able to put up Klay numbers for all his career. 18 ppg 61%TS in 18 seasons, that's basically Klay Thompson right now on the Warriors. Klay's never even cracked 60%TS for a regular season average and he's in the softer, 3-pt oriented era with the best supporting cast you can ask for :lol

Reggie actually got to the line with volume and led the league in FT% and TS% multiple times, oh and he actually dribbled the basketball.

[livinglegend]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
you are so dumb

[SouBeachTalents]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson
:biggums:

[soots]

Harden would be horrible. They would need to pay the towel kids triple time to clean up his urine when he pisses his pants going up against men with hand check rules.

Durant would be GOAT until he switches teams to win a ring and every player checks him for not being loyal. He would have a target on his head.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson
Drexler was DeRozan with better defense. He was consistently a 20-22 ppg scorer and had 3 seasons averaging 25-27 ppg.

The Klay Thompson comparison is bad cause their games are literally nothing alike

[LoneyROY7]

Harden doesn't even get the opportunity to start with his no-defense playing ass. He'd get exposed and attacked on every possession, plus he wouldn't get away with any of this shit. At best he's what he was at OKC.

KD OTOH would still be great, he can play in the post and he has the mid-range shot.

The retard level on ISH is remarkable. :oldlol: :oldlol:

When you think they can't get dumber, they do.

[warriorfan]

The retard level on ISH is remarkable. :oldlol: :oldlol:

When you think they can't get dumber, they do.

That guy is a super low iq troll

[Duncan21formvp]

Well MJ is like a modern day DeMar which is like top 50 in the league so...

I think they'd be alright :pimp:
Lebron is the modern day Corey Magette as well.

[ImKobe]

The retard level on ISH is remarkable. :oldlol: :oldlol:

When you think they can't get dumber, they do.

So, what does Harden do under 90s rules?

Does his skillset match that era?

He isn't physical enough to score in the post. He doesn't shoot mid-range jumpers (don't use the very small sample size to try to convince anyone otherwise) and he isn't the fastest or most athletic guy in the league.

It's cool that he's allowed to chuck away 3s in MDA's system and that he's found a way to get himself to the line in this era, but that's not going to work in the 90s.

Want some more facts about your favorite player? He shoots 39%FG in the 4th quarter with 31% from 3 for this whole year. Nothing but padded stats from the annual Playoff choker. :applause:

Imagine that any coach would allow him to play that style of ball back then :lol

[LoneyROY7]

So, what does Harden do under 90s rules?

Does his skillset match that era?

He isn't physical enough to score in the post. He doesn't shoot mid-range jumpers (don't use the very small sample size to try to convince anyone otherwise) and he isn't the fastest or most athletic guy in the league.

It's cool that he's allowed to chuck away 3s in MDA's system and that he's found a way to get himself to the line in this era, but that's not going to work in the 90s.

Want some more facts about your favorite player? He shoots 39%FG in the 4th quarter with 31% from 3 for this whole year. Nothing but padded stats from the annual Playoff choker. :applause:

Imagine that any coach would allow him to play that style of ball back then :lol

Harden has one of the quickest first steps in the league. You combine his quickness with elite ballhandling, strength, and footwork and the physicality is not gonna stop him from getting where he wants.

You're legit a f*cking retard though, so I'm good on this convo. :lol :lol

[ImKobe]

Harden has one of the quickest first steps in the league. You combine his quickness with elite ballhandling, strength, and footwork and the physicality is not gonna stop him from getting where he wants.

You're legit a f*cking retard though, so I'm good on this convo. :lol :lol

So you present me with zero facts and the best you can come up with is calling me a retard. That's original.

Harden's nothing but a gimmick, who keeps getting exposed every single year in the Playoffs. You take away the ticky-tack fouls and you allow the defenders to D him up & he has nothing else to give you. We've seen this for the past 4 post-seasons and you're still here trying to sell me this nonsense.

He's not doing shit in the 90s. There's nothing about his game that convinces me otherwise. He doesn't have the MDA offense and he doesn't have the benefit of the refs in that era.

[stalkerforlife]

Durant is ageless. Any era, he's great.

Harden would be a 15-18 point scorer and nowhere near a superstar.

[FKAri]

Harden doesn't even get the opportunity to start with his no-defense playing ass. He'd get exposed and attacked on every possession, plus he wouldn't get away with any of this shit. At best he's what he was at OKC.

KD OTOH would still be great, he can play in the post and he has the mid-range shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63TDVWnZ5K8

[LoneyROY7]

So you present me with zero facts and the best you can come up with is calling me a retard. That's original.

Harden's nothing but a gimmick, who keeps getting exposed every single year in the Playoffs. You take away the ticky-tack fouls and you allow the defenders to D him up & he has nothing else to give you. We've seen this for the past 4 post-seasons and you're still here trying to sell me this nonsense.

He's not doing shit in the 90s. There's nothing about his game that convinces me otherwise. He doesn't have the MDA offense and he doesn't have the benefit of the refs in that era.

Defenders can't keep Harden in front of them because of his level of quickness combined with ballhandling and strength.

I get that this is difficult concept for you comprehend, so why don't you stick to something easier like the Kobe vs. Lebron stuff you're accustomed to.

[stalkerforlife]

If Harden is so great, why does he regress in the playoffs every. single. year?

Why?

[LoneyROY7]

If Harden is so great, why does he regress in the playoffs every. single. year?

Why?

Because his 3 point shot has failed him. That's literally what it is.

[SaltyMeatballs]

So you present me with zero facts and the best you can come up with is calling me a retard. That's original.

Harden's nothing but a gimmick, who keeps getting exposed every single year in the Playoffs. You take away the ticky-tack fouls and you allow the defenders to D him up & he has nothing else to give you. We've seen this for the past 4 post-seasons and you're still here trying to sell me this nonsense.

He's not doing shit in the 90s. There's nothing about his game that convinces me otherwise. He doesn't have the MDA offense and he doesn't have the benefit of the refs in that era.
Take away the free throws and Harden is still a great scorer. He's a good 3 point shooter, good slasher to the rim and his mid-range really isn't that bad. He just barely uses it because of Morey ball offense.

Harden before MDA offense was still a damn good scorer. Averaged 29 ppg the season before he came, and 27 the year before that.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Durant is ageless. Any era, he's great.

Harden would be a 15-18 point scorer and nowhere near a superstar.
Stupid statement

[ImKobe]

Take away the free throws and Harden is still a great scorer. He's a good 3 point shooter, good slasher to the rim and his mid-range really isn't that bad. He just barely uses it because of Morey ball offense.

Harden before MDA offense was still a damn good scorer. Averaged 29 ppg the season before he came, and 27 the year before that.

He was decent. He was good from the top of the key, but that's about it. He still shot a huge volume of 3s, he was already doing the same type of stuff back then.

Let's look at Harden's Playoff resume from 2015-18 in big/elimination games

2015: 2/11 with 12 TOs against the Warriors in elimination, shot 3/16 just two games before that

2017: loses an elimination game at home to Kawhi-less Spurs (39-pt blowout!) while going 2/11 with 6 TOs 10 pts

2018: is up 3 - 2 on the Warriors (despite him shooting 0/11 from 3 in Game 5) and proceeds to go 6/25 from three in the next two games with 14 turnovers, goes 2/13 from three in Game 7 and is apart of the most embarrassing stretch in post-season history, where his team misses 27 straight threes and gives the game away at home. His team was up by 11 pts at the half.


He was the 3rd man for OKC and stunk it up against the Heat too. I've seen him come up short too many times to seriously consider him an elite player in the 90s. If he struggles in the Playoffs right now, what does he do in that era?

He doesn't have the skillset to be better than guys like Penny, Drexler & Pippen in that era. Let's not even get into comparing him to bigs.

[thefatmiral]

Too many elite big men in 90s for them to be top 3. Top ten yeah probably.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Harden would be a really elite shooter in the 90s. No way will he be able to drive the lane as much as he does in todays era. He would get touched up every game

[RRR3]

Do you retards realize Drexler was a rich mans Klay Thompson
You calling people retards and then making this comparison is just astoundingly ironic.

[And1AllDay]

Too many elite big men in 90s for them to be top 3. Top ten yeah probably.

Dinosaurs that cant shoot 3s? Nah bruh

[DaHeezy]

FFS, I grew up in the 90's and it's astounding how overrated you guys make it out to be. Harden and Durant have completely unique skillsets that would make then extremely hard to gaurd. Harden would be a bigger version of Tim Hardaway. Hardaway was constantly put in isolation with tons of success. Harden wouldn't be much different.

And if a Detlef Schrempf or a Tony Kucok found starting positions in the 90's you don't think Durant could star? What did Chris Mullins do better than Durant?

Fukk outta here with that noise. The comparisons here are horrible.

[LoneyROY7]

FFS, I grew up in the 90's and it's astounding how overrated you guys make it out to be. Harden and Durant have completely unique skillsets that would make then extremely hard to gaurd. Harden would be a bigger version of Tim Hardaway. Hardaway was constantly put in isolation with tons of success. Harden wouldn't be much different.

And if a Detlef Schrempf or a Tony Kucok found starting positions in the 90's you don't think Durant could star? What did Chris Mullins do better than Durant?

Fukk outta here with that noise. The comparisons here are horrible.

Now this is spot on.

Gotta rifle through 100 atrocious takes before you reach a good one on ISH.

[3ball]

These guys wouldn't be able to space the floor back then anymore than Reggie Miller did for the Pacers - in other words - they wouldn't get to just stand behind the 3-point line as much

i.e. they wouldn't be the beneficiary of drive-and-kick threes - the easiest kind of three - because the point guard would be making entry passes, not high-screen-rolls.. durant/harden would have to run off multiple screens on an unspaced floor for threes, or pull-up against hand-checking.. either way it would be tougher to get threes back then for both

Of course, none of these guys can bang inside like they'd need to back then either.. MJ/bird/magic could all get real dirty inside - all the great players could back then, so durant's physique would be a question mark.. harden's lack of power drop-step would be a disadvantage to the standard above average SG back then.


Otoh, Embiid would be nice but maybe wouldn't hold up, like a lot of great bigs back then.. see bill walton.. Bowie.. Ralph . daughtery.. and more.. it was a more bruising game, not today's no-contact movement all over the court like a routine more than a game at times

Guys like lebron, Simmons, Blake... Guys with POWER would be really good back then.. still inferior to mj/magic/Coleman

Or maybe durant would be considered a superior Reggie Lewis and people would have the durant-bird debate, which durant would lose very badly (because he can't bang inside like bird, a more effective brand back then))

Or maybe it's somewhere in between
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[DaHeezy]

These guys wouldn't be able to space the floor back then anymore than Reggie Miller did for the Pacers - in other words - they wouldn't get to just stand behind the 3-point line as much

i.e. they wouldn't be the beneficiary of drive-and-kick threes - the easiest kind of three - because the point guard would be making entry passes, not high-screen-rolls.. durant/harden would have to run off multiple screens on an unspaced floor for threes, or pull-up against hand-checking.. either way it would be tougher to get threes back then for both

Of course, none of these guys can bang inside like they'd need to back then either.. MJ/bird/magic could all get real dirty inside - all the great players could back then, so durant's physique would be a question mark.. harden's lack of power drop-step would be a disadvantage to the standard above average SG back then.


Otoh, Embiid would be nice but maybe wouldn't hold up, like a lot of great bigs back then.. see bill walton.. Bowie.. Ralph . daughtery.. and more.. it was a more bruising game, not today's no-contact movement all over the court like a routine more than a game at times

Guys like lebron, Simmons, Blake... Guys with POWER would be really good back then.. still inferior to mj/magic/Coleman

Or maybe durant would be considered a superior Reggie Lewis and people would have the durant-bird debate, which durant would lose very badly (because he can't bang inside like bird, a more effective brand back then))

Or maybe it's somewhere in between
.

This is just a bias mess of hot vomit. This reeks of lack of knowledge and semantics. Stick to sucking Jordan's dick and bashing Lebron.

[DaHeezy]

Now this is spot on.

Gotta rifle through 100 atrocious takes before you reach a good one on ISH.

You can never get an honest take because every comment has an underlying agenda. This one is boosting the 90's agenda like it's some rough and tumble league that today's players couldn't play. People need to get out of their asses and see things through an unbiased lens.

[3ball]

You can never get an honest take because every comment has an underlying agenda. This one is boosting the 90's agenda like it's some rough and tumble league that today's players couldn't play. People need to get out of their asses and see things through an unbiased lens.
Here's facts

Today's game doesn't allow contact on-ball or off-ball like they used to, or at all

Today's game has flagrant fouls

Today's game has crazy spacing and a wide open middle of the floor

Today's game offers easy 3-point looks from drive-and-kick (players can just wait behind line)

Today's game has the highest ortg and efg ever (easiest scoring environment)

And on.. and on.. these are all facts.. there's no bias in stating the damn league rules and stats.. ur just bitching, literally denying the facts

[DaHeezy]

Here's facts

Today's game doesn't allow contact on-ball or off-ball like they used to, or at all

Today's game has flagrant fouls

Today's game has crazy spacing and a wide open middle of the floor

Today's game offers easy 3-point looks from drive-and-kick (players can just wait behind line)

Today's game has the highest ortg and efg ever (easiest scoring environment)

And on.. and on.. these are all facts.. there's no bias in stating the damn league rules and stats.. ur just bitching, literally denying the facts

Here's facts. Ball handlers and shooters like Harden and Durant existed in the 90's. Harden and Durant are a lot more skilled than most of them in the 90's. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullins had no problem dominating in the 90's. Harden and Durant are another level better.

Bird and Magic who you used as examples were shells of themselves in the 90's. Somlearn your history.

So fakk outta here with your bias hot mess. Your facts don't mean shit to the eye test. You're talking about league MVPs here.

[DaHeezy]

And to point out how stupidly bias you are, you use examples of Bowie to say Embiid would make it. Yet fail to recognize players like Harden and Durant are similar to were much better than Bowie. Lol. Makes no sense.

[3ball]

Here's facts. Ball handlers and shooters like Harden and Durant existed in the 90's. Harden and Durant are a lot more skilled than most of them in the 90's. Guys like Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullins had no problem dominating in the 90's. Harden and Durant are another level better.

Bird and Magic who you used as examples were shells of themselves in the 90's. Somlearn your history.

So fakk outta here with your bias hot mess. Your facts don't mean shit to the eye test. You're talking about league MVPs here.
That's fine because that's closer to harden's physical ability - he'd be more like they were, which makes sense since his stats and performance wouldn't be propped up by extra room to isolate, wide driving lanes or open paint that he enjoys in today's spaced-out, no contact, 3-pointer routine (not a sport)

That's just a fact

['Toine=MVP]

Both guys would have had a hard time succeeding in the NBA in the 90s. Much better league then. I'm not a big LeBron guy, but he would have held up fairly well. No one would be screaming that he's top 5 of all time then like some do now though. LeBron would have missed a lot of time playing against physical defenders too, and might be retired by this age.

[superduper]

Both guys would have had a hard time succeeding in the NBA in the 90s. Much better league then. I'm not a big LeBron guy, but he would have held up fairly well. No one would be screaming that he's top 5 of all time then like some do now though. LeBron would have missed a lot of time playing against physical defenders too, and might be retired by this age.

Bran would be borderline top 5 in that era let alone "top 5 all time" :lol

[Trollsmasher]

the '90s averaged like 5-6 more foul calls per game

Harden would absolutely dominate since he would get 15 FTAs per game and his three pointer would be even more deadly since nobody could defend the three back then (loq IQ perimeter defenders used to easy iso against nonskilled oafs).

[superduper]

the '90s averaged like 5-6 more foul calls per game

Harden would absolutely dominate since he would get 15 FTAs per game and his three pointer would be even more deadly since nobody could defend the three back then (loq IQ perimeter defenders used to easy iso against nonskilled oafs).

A typical LeTard analysis everyone :lol

Might as well put "-Nick Wright" at the bottom of it.

[DaHeezy]

That's fine because that's closer to harden's physical ability - he'd be more like they were, which makes sense since his stats and performance wouldn't be propped up by extra room to isolate, wide driving lanes or open paint that he enjoys in today's spaced-out, no contact, 3-pointer routine (not a sport)

That's just a fact

🤣🤣
Proof you haven't seen Mullins or Hardaway play nor the fact Hardaway tore up man to man in the 90's.

I find it funny you completely ignore your Sam Bowie point and that Magic and Bird were insignificant in the 90's. But please, do your parrot impression and repeat spot up and wide open lanes.

Your facts are trash.