25% FG difference?

[TheCorporation]

It pains me as a die hard Lakers fan just thinking about the monumental 2004 NBA Finals failure but Kobe's sad 22-4-3 on 38% performance has me thinking how bad Kobe-ball was.

2004 Finals FGA
Kobe = 113
Shaq = 84

2004 Finals FG%
Kobe = 38%
Shaq = 63%

How many other #2 options have shot 25% less FG but still managed to take more shots?

Aside from Kobe, is this even mathematical possible to ever happen again?

Facts

-#2 option takes MORE shots
-#2 option scores FAR less points
-#2 option shoots 25% FG below the main guy

Russell Westbrook would be proud. For a point of reference

2012 NBA Finals FGA
Westbrook = 120
Durant = 104

2012 NBA Finals FG%
Westbrook = 43%
Durant = 55%

But this was only 12% less. What about 25% :eek:

[superduper]

Bran stans ooze insecurity :oldlol:

[ImKobe]

Shaq shot more FGA in the 2004 Finals than he did in the RS and in the first 3 rounds of the POs. He also shot 30 more FTs than Kobe in the 2004 Finals, while only making 4 more FTs, overall it's a 15%TS difference, which is insane because Kobe was triple-covered and played on the perimeter while Shaq was spoonfed easy baskets against a guy, who was probably 6 inches shorter than him and weighed 150 pounds less (Shaq was around 380-390 to Ben's 240).

Another fun fact, Shaq had as many blocks for the Finals as Kobe with three. Yes. That's three blocks for "MDE", a 7-1 lazy oaf, who wouldn't play defense and who allowed the Pistons to exploit our defense with his terrible P&R D. Let's not also forget the turnovers and him constantly picking up 4-5 fouls. Lakers literally traded Shaq over his weight.

[Mr Feeny]

Shaq shot more FGA in the 2004 Finals than he did in the RS and in the first 3 rounds of the POs. He also shot 30 more FTs than Kobe in the 2004 Finals, while only making 4 more FTs, overall it's a 15%TS difference, which is insane because Kobe was triple-covered and played on the perimeter while Shaq was spoonfed easy baskets against a guy, who was probably 6 inches shorter than him and weighed 150 pounds less (Shaq was around 380-390 to Ben's 240).

Another fun fact, Shaq had as many blocks for the Finals as Kobe with three. Yes. That's three blocks for "MDE", a 7-1 lazy oaf, who wouldn't play defense and who allowed the Pistons to exploit our defense with his terrible P&R D. Let's not also forget the turnovers and him constantly picking up 4-5 fouls. Lakers literally traded Shaq over his weight.

In other words, everything the OP has said is spot on:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

In other words, everything the OP has said is spot on:oldlol:

Yeah, let's just leave logic and facts out of the equation. Let's compare a big, who gets all his shots fed to a perimeter player, and let's leave out how these two guys were defended. Let's leave out the fact that Kobe was the first option all year.

So no, OP was not right.

[bigkingsfan]

In other words, everything the OP has said is spot on:oldlol:
:roll:

[And1AllDay]

In other words, everything the OP has said is spot on:oldlol:

:roll: :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Yeah, let's just leave logic and facts out of the equation. Let's compare a big, who gets all his shots fed to a perimeter player, and let's leave out how these two guys were defended. Let's leave out the fact that Kobe was the first option all year.

So no, OP was not right.

Bruh Kobe took 29 more shots and scored 20 less points

+29 FGA
-20 points

whut

even if we take away Shaqs extra FT he hit 27 FT vs Kobe 23 so even if we add 4 more points to Kobe to even FT shots he is still -16 points but +29 FGA

[ImKobe]

Bruh Kobe took 29 more shots and scored 20 less points

+29 FGA
-20 points

whut

even if we take away Shaqs extra FT he hit 27 FT vs Kobe 23 so even if we add 4 more points to Kobe to even FT shots he is still -16 points but +29 FGA

Your post makes 0 sense. How do you "add" 4 points to Kobe for 30 extra Fts for Shaq? So him bricking all his free throws is not an issue? Him being a liability in the 4th due to his poor FT shooting doesn't limit the amount of shots he could potentially get with the game on the line?

Shaq took 30 more FTs than Kobe and he was single covered, what else do you want to know about this series? Lakers had their biggest loss of the series when Kobe only took 13 shots in the game. How great was Shaq in that game? How great was Shaq in 4th quarters of that series? He averaged 5.4 ppg to Kobe's 7.8 and had a -0.8 BPM to Kobe's +3.2. Kobe's shooting splits in the 4th were 44/40/93.

Again, Shaq was not conditioned to take more shots than he did, he did get more shots per game in the Finals than any other Playoff series & RS.

Here's why Shaq was a 2nd option and didn't get more FGA:

1 - conditioning, he was nearly 400 pounds, main reason why he was traded
2 - Shaq's a bad FT shooter, couldn't go to him in certain situations, was also hacked a lot to prevent a basket, thus the FGA turns into FTs
3 - turnovers (offensive fouls etc)
4 - minutes, poor conditioning and constantly having 4-5 fouls made it so that Kobe played 46 mpg to Shaq's 42, so the extra minutes on the floor for Kobe meant that he had more opportunities to shoot the ball.

Can't make it any clearer for you. Kobe played ~19 more minutes for the series, was the closer & the guy who took bailout shots & Shaq was fat and a terrible FT shooter.

[And1AllDay]

Your post makes 0 sense. How do you "add" 4 points to Kobe for 30 extra Fts for Shaq?

Uhh I can say it like this since you seem confused.

Basically Shaq scored 27 points on free throws and Kobe score 23 meaning Shaq scores 4 more points on free throws...Thats it. so give mr. -20 a +4 for the free throw disparity and he is still 16 points less scored then Shaq...



what else do you want to know about this series?

Why Kobe shoot 25% less FG but also took 30 more shots. Has that ever happened in history of bbal????????

[Uncle Drew]

In other words, everything the OP has said is spot on:oldlol:
:oldlol:

ImKobe in shambles.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol. Kobe the ONLY guard whose FG% get's compared with 7'1 dominant specimens...in 2019

Let that sink in for a second.

Crazy how high the standards are for this guy :bowdown: :bowdown:

[zeerghit]

Lol. Kobe the ONLY guard whose FG% get's compared with 7'1 dominant specimens...in 2019

Let that sink in for a second.

Crazy how high the standards are for this guy :bowdown: :bowdown:
yeah so f*cking high that 38% is considered to be ok.. such a high standarts

[Rico2016]

Why Kobe shoot 25% less FG but also took 30 more shots. Has that ever happened in history of bbal????????

This is what I want to know. I can't say that it's ever happened nor will it ever happen again. Only one man is capable of being this dumb :roll: :roll:

[Rico2016]

yeah so f*cking high that 38% is considered to be ok.. such a high standarts

This x100

The Kobe guy shoots 38% and takes 30 more shots than "specimen Shaq on 63%" like a tard but he gets a pass from 34-24 because...Well, because who knows why? :roll: