Overall, how would you rate LeBrons help thoughout his career?

[Dray n Klay]

If you averaged out LeBrons help over his 16 year career, how has it been?

[superduper]

LeGOAT has had the most allstar caliber/superstar caliber/MVP caliber help in the history of the game for an all time great.

Rating: No excuses

[Rico2016]

He definitely wasn't playing on any post LeBron 55-win teams so that has to count for something...:confusedshrug:

[bullettooth]

Shaq
Ben Wallace
Ilgauskas
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Kevin Love

All that help and 9 trips to the finals and he could only get THREE asterisk rings.

Dude is an underachiever.

[FKAri]

Always injured

[superduper]

Shaq
Ben Wallace
Ilgauskas
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Kevin Love

All that help and 9 trips to the finals and he could only get THREE asterisk rings.

Dude is an underachiever.

Don't forget top 3 MVP candidate Isaiah Thomas :eek:

[Keno]

The worst of any all time great - mainly top 5. No certified second option for his first 7 years, and borderline allstars for the rest.

[The Iron Fist]

[Manny98]

Shaq
Ben Wallace
Ilgauskas
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Kevin Love

All that help and 9 trips to the finals and he could only get THREE asterisk rings.

Dude is an underachiever.
Shaq = fossil
Wallace = fossil
Illguaskas = nothing special
Wade = broken down knees
Bosh = Mr 0 points in game 7
Allen = old fossil
Kyrie = didn't even make the all star team the year they won
Love = 6ppg in finals always injured no defense

[coin24]

OP needs help

[eliteballer]

How do you rate steroids?

[And1AllDay]

Shaq = fossil
Wallace = fossil
Illguaskas = nothing special
Wade = broken down knees
Bosh = Mr 0 points in game 7
Allen = old fossil
Kyrie = didn't even make the all star team the year they won
Love = 6ppg in finals always injured no defense


shut
it
downnnnnnnnnnn

[PCCM_29]

Shaq
Ben Wallace
Ilgauskas
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Kevin Love

All that help and 9 trips to the finals and he could only get THREE asterisk rings.

Dude is an underachiever.

This is actually a very poorly worded question

It's not how much help has he had, the question is what kind of competition has he had?

He HAS had a lot of help (to answer your question), thus he's had very successful seasons (who else has made it to the finals this often?)

But, his competition has been historically harder than the other contenders commonly discussed with him (this is... just not debatable)

MJ? Kobe? Neither one faced a team like the Spurs, the Warriors, or the Thunder.

You got to ask the right questions my man

[Dray n Klay]

This is actually a very poorly worded question

It's not how much help has he had, the question is what kind of competition has he had?

He HAS had a lot of help (to answer your question), thus he's had very successful seasons

But, his competition has been historically harder than the other contenders commonly discussed with him

MJ? Kobe? Neither one faced a team like the Spurs, the Warriors, or the Thunder.

You got to ask the right questions my man

LeBron only had an all-nba teammate 4 times in 16 seasons (2011, 2012, 2013 Wade) and 2015 Kyrie


And 3 out of those 4 selections were only 3rd team.



Thats literally the worst ratio of any player in the Top 50

[And1AllDay]

LeBron only had an all-nba teammate 4 times in 16 seasons (2011, 2012, 2013 Wade) and 2015 Kyrie


And 3 out of those 4 selections were only 3rd team.



Thats literally the worst ratio of any player in the Top 50

Good lord I didn't know it was that bad yikes

[bison]

When we talk about ‘help’ throughout his career, keep in mind it’s not just the long list of hall of famers, all stars and all-nba players—a lot of greats had legendary teammates—rather, it’s the EFFORT the media, front offices, management and owners put in to surround bron with all time greats at all time. No other ATG great has had the level of help from management, media and the league that lebron has had. And that’s because no ATG has NEEDED that level of help.

[Duncan21formvp]

Shaq
Ben Wallace
Ilgauskas
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Kevin Love

All that help and 9 trips to the finals and he could only get THREE asterisk rings.

Dude is an underachiever.
This. Also bunch of guys who won titles as the man before joining Lebron such as Wade, Ben Wallace, Shaq.

[bullettooth]

Good lord I didn't know it was that bad yikes

It gets worse actually!

Dude went 3/9 in the finals! :lol

[elementally morale]

He got most his help from the media.

Without the unwarranted media hype he would be viewed as a borderline top 10 player. That's pretty good. But thanks to the media he is being talked about as top 3 by most people. His game and resume simply does not back that up. His stats probably do. But without the extra media help, LeBron James is... a Julius Erwing. Still pretty good. Definitely not top 3.

[MrFonzworth]

More than enough to surpass MJ in rings. Unfortunately, he didn't have it in him.

[Cleverness]

Cavs 2003-2010 - weak
Heat 2011-2014 - great, hand-picked help
Cavs 2014-2017 - great, hand-picked help
Cavs 2017-2018 - mediocre, but strong in eastern conference
Lakers 2018-2019 - to be determined...