All time 1st, 2nd, 3rd team All Cancer

[kennethgriffen]

1st team:

G - Stephon Marbury
G - Ricky Davis
F - Latrell Sprewell
F - Lebron James
C - Dwight Howard


2nd team:

G - Steve Francis
G - Allen Iverson
F - Lance Stephenson
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Demarcus Cousins

3rd team:

G - Rajon Rondo
G - JR Smith
F - Adrian Dantley
F - Kermit Washington
F/C - Rasheed Wallace



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[Foster5k]

Didn't Jordan punch Steve Kerr? Didn't Kobe basically run off Shaq and stated he wanted to be "the man".

Funny how time skews reality. Or in this case, an insecure stan trying to paint a false narrative.

[3ball]

I always thought Darius Miles was ahead of his time and presented a bit of a problem for coaches

Oh and 5 stars

[zeerghit]

so kobe snitching shaq and running him out of town is ok?:roll:

[superduper]

Didn't Jordan punch Steve Kerr?

In the end that was for the betterment of the team. Ask Kerr. Jordan knew, he always knew it would be for the good of the team.

Didn't Kobe basically run off Shaq and stated he wanted to be "the man".

In the end Kobe won 2 rings post Shaq and won the Kobe vs Shaq beef. Was for the betterment of the Lakers franchise as a whole.



Next?

[3ball]

so kobe snitching shaq and running him out of town is ok?:roll:
Kobe wasn't an inherent chemistry issue like lebron's skill restriction to ball-domination is

:cheers:

[Spurs m8]

Didn't Jordan punch Steve Kerr? Didn't Kobe basically run off Shaq and stated he wanted to be "the man".

Funny how time skews reality. Or in this case, an insecure stan trying to paint a false narrative.

Can you go back into hiding already...you sound like a little b1tch

[Foster5k]

Can you go back into hiding already...you sound like a little b1tch
Nice avatar. You should trade it though for something better. :oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

Hes played for 2 franchises before now. Both won rings. Rondo won a ring as a key player.

Too many losers to choose from for people with hands full of rings to be the biggest cancers.

Elvin Hayes was a total dick....and he won a ring. Kinda removing him from contention too.

[kennethgriffen]

Didn't Jordan punch Steve Kerr? Didn't Kobe basically run off Shaq and stated he wanted to be "the man".

Funny how time skews reality. Or in this case, an insecure stan trying to paint a false narrative.


the story goes

a) after winning the 2000 championship shaq came into training camp out of shape 3 years in a row and at one point choosing to have surgery on company time because he "got hurt on company time"

b) shaq said "you can't win without me" and they feuded for most of 2004 before kobe basically gave the lakers an ultimatum. shaq was willing to stay for 30 million but jerry couldn't afford both and instead traded shaq

c) kobe then turned around after looking at places in chicago and re signed with the lakers

d) kobe after losing in 2008 shaq made a diss rap about how kobe couldnt do it without him while asking how his a** tasted

e) after winning the 2nd title without shaq in 2010 kobe said "it means i got one more than shaq"

f) during their 1 on 1 interview shaq said "i came in out of shape cause i knew i had a guy that could carry me all year."

g) kobe said "that was the reason it couldn't work out between us"

h) shaq said he tore his house apart when kobe won #5... saying "you got me"

i) shaq also said "after you let me have that allstar mvp trophy for my son i thought... damn...i messed up"


in the end kobe came out ontop and shaq turned out to be the shit disturbing journeyman that burned bridges wherever he went

[kennethgriffen]

Hes played for 2 franchises before now. Both won rings. Rondo won a ring as a key player.

Too many losers to choose from for people with hands full of rings to be the biggest cancers.

Elvin Hayes was a total dick....and he won a ring. Kinda removing him from contention too.


you can win and still be a cancer... rondo chased off ray allen and rubbed every player/coach the wrong way since then. lebron basically choked 2 gold medals and a bunch of 1st seeds/teammates/rings away


left a franchise in shambles 4 times


both have to make the list

[Foster5k]

shaq turned out to be the shit disturbing journeyman that burned bridges wherever he went
:wtf:

Didn't he win a ring in Miami?

[Kblaze8855]

Cancer doesnt allow your team reach its peak performance in history. If the best you ever performed is when you had cancer....and then you turned to shit when it was gone....it probably wasnt cancer.

[Wally450]

There's a reason why players didn't want to play with Kobe throughout his career. I know this is an agenda driven thread, but if were being serious he needs to be on it.

[kennethgriffen]

:wtf:

Didn't he win a ring in Miami?



yes but he sat most of the 4th quarter in the finals while mourning played to cover for shaqs poor free throw shooting


he barely averaged 13ppg and finished 3rd in heat scoring for the finals behind antoine walker



it was a wade/referee ring. shaq had little to do with it

[Foster5k]

yes but he sat most of the 4th quarter in the finals while mourning played to cover for shaqs poor free throw shooting


he barely averaged 13ppg and finished 3rd in heat scoring for the finals behind antoine walker



it was a wade/referee ring. shaq had little to do with it
:biggums:

[MrFonzworth]

Replace Iverson with Delonte West, replace Rondo with Arenas. Replace JR with Kobe.

[Kblaze8855]

There's a reason why players didn't want to play with Kobe throughout his career. I know this is an agenda driven thread, but if were being serious he needs to be on it.


Doing it all nba style with 6 guard spots?

You just cant find room for a 5 time champion on an all cancer team.

[kennethgriffen]

There's a reason why players didn't want to play with Kobe throughout his career. I know this is an agenda driven thread, but if were being serious he needs to be on it.


the guys that didn't wanna play with kobe were

- shaq due to both of them being alphas and one being lazy
- smush due to constantly being told how shitty he was... for good reason
- dwight due to wanting to play goofy games and not take things seriously


after the achilles injury you can't really blame kobe for people for not wanting to play with a 1 legged player.



and even dwight was part of that post achilles group


other than those guys nobody really has anything bad to say about the guy. kobe had a ton of ex teammates show up for his last game and jersey retirement

[sdot_thadon]

Like it was said in a previous post if we're going to put winners in the all cancer team then you'll need to add quite a few guys.

Let's keep it simple with the most popular players on this site:

1) Kobe Bryant

-Kobe forced his way to a team before he was even drafted pretty much giving the finger to at least 2 other teams in the process.

-known as a selfish ballhog with the most missed shots in NBA history and quite a few cases of photographic evidence of taking shots 1 on 4 or 5 with open teammates.

-called uncoachable by someone most consider one of the greatest if not the greatest coach ever.

-snitched on his teammate to the cops, helping cause a divorce later.

-asked for a public trade when his team wasn't doing well after he had Shaq shipped out of town.

-facilitates the end of a dynasty getting Shaq trade due to being power hungry.

- actually shot his team out of a finals attempting to "be like mike"

- failed twice with 4 allstar teams

- wouldn't ever change how he played to accommodate others and couldn't help the Lakers attract any free agents on the back leg of his career.

Mj

-punched a few teammates in practice to the point they installed curtains to keep the media out.

-known ballhog early in his career. the triangle wasn't just an offense it was also a means to get the ball out of Mj's hands by his coaches.

-wizards Mj couldn't make the playoffs in the weak east.

-got a future allstar traded because of who knows. Perhaps it was fit or the fact Hamilton was young.

- broke the spirit of the lotto pick he selected because he made a mistake.

-gm career. nuff said.

[bullettooth]

1st team:

G - Stephon Marbury
G - Ricky Davis
F - Latrell Sprewell
F - Lebron James
C - Dwight Howard


2nd team:

G - Steve Francis
G - Allen Iverson
F - Lance Stephenson
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Demarcus Cousins

3rd team:

G - Rajon Rondo
G - JR Smith
F - Adrian Dantley
F - Kermit Washington
F/C - Rasheed Wallace


Interesting how they're all on the same team now.

[Celtics 1825]

Butler deserves a mention

[kennethgriffen]

Like it was said in a previous post if we're going to put winners in the all cancer team then you'll need to add quite a few guys.

Let's keep it simple with the most popular players on this site:

1) Kobe Bryant

-Kobe forced his way to a team before he was even drafted pretty much giving the finger to at least 2 other teams in the process.



he didn't force his way anywhere. he wasn't even a top 10 pick. he worked out for boston. he may have said he wanted to be a laker. who knows. he grew up a laker fan. the hornets got a great starting center in return for a kid who wasn't even good enough at the time to start or average more than 7ppg. the hornets probably assumed they won the trade for a little bit. especially after those air balls. kobe didn't have the clout at the time to demand anything




-known as a selfish ballhog with the most missed shots in NBA history and quite a few cases of photographic evidence of taking shots 1 on 4 or 5 with open teammates.




kobe actually sacrificed every year of his career except for 06 and 07. he led all 5 laker title team in assists and has the 3rd most titles by an assist leader in history. and was the first player with 30k points and 6k assists.





-called uncoachable by someone most consider one of the greatest if not the greatest coach ever.




phil later admitted that his opinions were driven from kobes rape trial and how his daughter was raped and it made him hate kobe as a human being for a long time until they reunited in 2006. then he retracted that statement





-snitched on his teammate to the cops, helping cause a divorce later.



this is like saying nick young a snitch on himself. neither kobe or nick were aware there was a secret recording that would be released to the public




-asked for a public trade when his team wasn't doing well after he had Shaq shipped out of town.



phil told kobe that jerry had said they weren't in a win now attitude because they were waiting on andrew bynum to mature. kobe found out they had passed on trading for jason kidd and it made kobe give management an ultimatum. they were using kobe to sell tickets and ruining his career onpurpose. kobe had every right to demand a trade




-facilitates the end of a dynasty getting Shaq trade due to being power hungry.



as mentioned earlier:

a) after winning the 2000 championship shaq came into training camp out of shape 3 years in a row and at one point choosing to have surgery on company time because he "got hurt on company time"

b) shaq said "you can't win without me" and they feuded for most of 2004 before kobe basically gave the lakers an ultimatum. shaq was willing to stay for 30 million but jerry couldn't afford both and instead traded shaq

c) kobe then turned around after looking at places in chicago and re signed with the lakers

d) kobe after losing in 2008 shaq made a diss rap about how kobe couldnt do it without him while asking how his a** tasted

e) after winning the 2nd title without shaq in 2010 kobe said "it means i got one more than shaq"

f) during their 1 on 1 interview shaq said "i came in out of shape cause i knew i had a guy that could carry me all year."

g) kobe said "that was the reason it couldn't work out between us"

h) shaq said he tore his house apart when kobe won #5... saying "you got me"

i) shaq also said "after you let me have that allstar mvp trophy for my son i thought... damn...i messed up"


in the end kobe came out ontop and shaq turned out to be the shit disturbing journeyman that burned bridges wherever he went

- actually shot his team out of a finals attempting to "be like mike"

- failed twice with 4 allstar teams

- wouldn't ever change how he played to accommodate others and couldn't help the Lakers attract any free agents on the back leg of his career.



DEBUNKEDX6

[aj1987]

1st team:

G - Stephon Marbury
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Latrell Sprewell
F - Michael Beasley
C - Dwight Howard


2nd team:

G - Steve Francis
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Lance Stephenson
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Demarcus Cousins

3rd team:

G - Rajon Rondo
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Adrian Dantley
F - Kermit Washington
F/C - Rasheed Wallace

[kennethgriffen]

1st team:

G - Stephon Marbury
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Latrell Sprewell
F - Michael Beasley
C - Dwight Howard


2nd team:

G - Steve Francis
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Lance Stephenson
F - Carmelo Anthony
F - Demarcus Cousins

3rd team:

G - Rajon Rondo
G - Kobe Bryant
F - Adrian Dantley
F - Kermit Washington
F/C - Rasheed Wallace




the fact that you agree with me on 90% of my picks should lead you to the conclusion that i was correct in including lebron and not kobe on the original list

[aj1987]

the fact that you agree with me on 90% of my picks should lead you to the conclusion that i was correct in including lebron and not kobe on the original list
Are you on crack or was you mom on the rock when she had you?

[zeerghit]

the fact that you agree with me on 90% of my picks should lead you to the conclusion that i was correct in including lebron and not kobe on the original list
why u defending snitch? its ur lifestyle aswell?

[kennethgriffen]

Are you on crack or was you mom on the rock when she had you?


deflection is the admittance of defeat

[kennethgriffen]

why u defending snitch? its ur lifestyle aswell?


did nick young snitch on himself?


neither kobe or nick knew there was a secret recording that would be released to the public when they spoke their mind behind closed doors

[zeerghit]

did nick young snitch on himself?


neither kobe or nick knew there was a secret recording that would be released to the public when they spoke their mind behind closed doors
snitches like snitches arent they?
report as saying Bryant told detectives in Eagle, Colo., "he
should have done what Shaq does ... that Shaq would pay his women
not to say anything" and already had paid up to $1 million "for
situations like this."

[kennethgriffen]

snitches like snitches arent they?
report as saying Bryant told detectives in Eagle, Colo., "he
should have done what Shaq does ... that Shaq would pay his women
not to say anything" and already had paid up to $1 million "for
situations like this."


i ask again... did nick young snitch on himself?


the snitch is the person that makes the knowledge public so the guy involved can get in trouble



i.e. the cops .. they were the d'snitchelo russells in that case

[zeerghit]

i ask again... did nick young snitch on himself?
do i talk about nick young? and no young didint snitch on himself he just said to "friend" the story. we all do that, but only 1% snitch that.

[Real14]

Iverson?? Really???:biggums:

[kennethgriffen]

do i talk about nick young? and no young didint snitch on himself he just said to "friend" the story. we all do that, but only 1% snitch that.



heres the thing. obviously kobe didn't intend for what he said to be made public because if he did or knew it would then he never would have said it in the first place


logic 101

[kennethgriffen]

Iverson?? Really???:biggums:


i got him in my top 25-30 all time but the end of his time in philly. then denver. then detroit. then memphis. then philly again

he kept causing drama everywhere he went like melo was the last few years


iverson couldn't let go of that top spot

[zeerghit]

heres the thing. obviously kobe didn't intend for what he said to be made public because if he did or knew it would then he never would have said it in the first place


logic 101
it doesnt change the FACT that he snitched, its even more bad that u think so, he didint wanted but somehow snitched? i didint wanted to cheat aswell, but somehow my boy snitched on me, oh poor my friend, yes? wtf is THAT logic?

[aj1987]

deflection is the admittance of defeat
You didn't answer my question.

Again, Kobe is the biggest cancer the sporting world has ever seen. Ever.

[kennethgriffen]

You didn't answer my question.

Again, Kobe is the biggest cancer the sporting world has ever seen. Ever.



na.. every major ex teammate was there for his last game/jersey retirement other than dwight howard for obvious reasons and karl malone cause he hit on vanessa


kobe had a great impact on everyone. people tell stories about kobes work ethic/leading by example/passion/drive/ determination


the guys on team usa say he changed the culture/their futures with his hustle on the defensive end and the way he practices


kobe is one of the most respected guys in history



its lebron whos mocked/shamed by so many notable people... the only guys who mock kobe are the nick wrights/max kellermans of the world who never touched a basketball

[zeerghit]

are you f*cking ignoring me or u just agree if me?

[kennethgriffen]

are you f*cking ignoring me or u just agree if me?


its not snitching if the parties involved aren't around and aren't supposed to find out


haven't you ever been with friends and even when a possible stranger was in the room you thought you could say anything and get away with it


like if your buddy was cheating on his girl you wouldn't mind bringing it up... "that new chick bobs f*ckin is fine as f*ck. he should dump that other b*tch"


now say theres a police informant recording the whole thing. its part of his investigation for a drug bust. he releases the tapes and your buddy gets ousted. you're blamed. you're a snitch!


well at the time it was perfectly ok. only in hindsight is it considered snitching

[aj1987]

na.. every major ex teammate was there for his last game/jersey retirement other than dwight howard for obvious reasons and karl malone cause he hit on vanessa
That doesn't not make him a cancer.

Snitched on Shaq

Forced Shaq out of town

Killed Dwight's career

Turned Odom into a crack head

Told teammates not to talk to him

Got called out by his own coach for being a shit defender

etc. etc.


kobe had a great impact on everyone. people tell stories about kobes work ethic/leading by example/passion/drive/ determination
Kyrie literally just called LeBron to apologize to him for not taking his leadership in the right way. Kyrie knew he was wrong and called and apologized to LeBron.


the guys on team usa say he changed the culture/their futures with his hustle on the defensive end and the way he practices
And? LeBron is one of the hardest working basketball players EVER.


kobe is one of the most respected guys in history
:oldlol: @ a rapist being "one of the most respected guys in history".


its lebron whos mocked/shamed by so many notable people... the only guys who mock kobe are the nick wrights/max kellermans of the world who never touched a basketball
Kobe is a known rapist who killed many careers. If social media was as big back than as it is now, dude wouldn't be ranked in anyone's top 50, let alone top 15. People hate on LeBron because they need hits. LeBron sneezes and it's on the front page of ESPN and SI. Literally everything LeBron does is magnified 1000x.

The only people who hate on LeBron are losers like Skip Bayless, Rob Parker, Jason "Fat Boy" Whitlock, and Brian Scalabrine.

[zeerghit]

its not snitching if the parties involved aren't around and aren't supposed to find out


haven't you ever been with friends and even when a possible stranger was in the room you thought you could say anything and get away with it


like if your buddy was cheating on his girl you wouldn't mind bringing it up... "that new chick bobs f*ckin is fine as f*ck. he should dump that other b*tch"


now say theres a police informant recording the whole thing. its part of his investigation for a drug bust. he releases the tapes and your buddy gets ousted. you're blamed. you're a snitch!


well at the time it was perfectly ok. only in hindsight is it considered snitching
WOW:roll: :roll: u will suck his dick if he letting u arent u?

[sdot_thadon]

he didn't force his way anywhere. he wasn't even a top 10 pick. he worked out for boston. he may have said he wanted to be a laker. who knows. he grew up a laker fan. the hornets got a great starting center in return for a kid who wasn't even good enough at the time to start or average more than 7ppg. the hornets probably assumed they won the trade for a little bit. especially after those air balls. kobe didn't have the clout at the time to demand anything




kobe actually sacrificed every year of his career except for 06 and 07. he led all 5 laker title team in assists and has the 3rd most titles by an assist leader in history. and was the first player with 30k points and 6k assists.





phil later admitted that his opinions were driven from kobes rape trial and how his daughter was raped and it made him hate kobe as a human being for a long time until they reunited in 2006. then he retracted that statement




this is like saying nick young a snitch on himself. neither kobe or nick were aware there was a secret recording that would be released to the public



phil told kobe that jerry had said they weren't in a win now attitude because they were waiting on andrew bynum to mature. kobe found out they had passed on trading for jason kidd and it made kobe give management an ultimatum. they were using kobe to sell tickets and ruining his career onpurpose. kobe had every right to demand a trade



as mentioned earlier:

a) after winning the 2000 championship shaq came into training camp out of shape 3 years in a row and at one point choosing to have surgery on company time because he "got hurt on company time"

b) shaq said "you can't win without me" and they feuded for most of 2004 before kobe basically gave the lakers an ultimatum. shaq was willing to stay for 30 million but jerry couldn't afford both and instead traded shaq

c) kobe then turned around after looking at places in chicago and re signed with the lakers

d) kobe after losing in 2008 shaq made a diss rap about how kobe couldnt do it without him while asking how his a** tasted

e) after winning the 2nd title without shaq in 2010 kobe said "it means i got one more than shaq"

f) during their 1 on 1 interview shaq said "i came in out of shape cause i knew i had a guy that could carry me all year."

g) kobe said "that was the reason it couldn't work out between us"

h) shaq said he tore his house apart when kobe won #5... saying "you got me"

i) shaq also said "after you let me have that allstar mvp trophy for my son i thought... damn...i messed up"


in the end kobe came out ontop and shaq turned out to be the shit disturbing journeyman that burned bridges wherever he went

- actually shot his team out of a finals attempting to "be like mike"

- failed twice with 4 allstar teams

- wouldn't ever change how he played to accommodate others and couldn't help the Lakers attract any free agents on the back leg of his career.



DEBUNKEDX6
I don't even care to debate any if that, it actually amused the shit out me that you did on a post meant to highlight how idiotic your thought was. Trust me i don't think champions are cancers, the fact you do is amusing though.