ANALYSIS: Why did Gasol go 0-4 in 2013 playoffs and get swept in the first round?

[superduper]

Since I've been educated on ISH by 2 people with 30 accounts that Pau Gasol was the true FMVP and best player that LED the Lakers to the promise land of champions not once but TWICE, why is it that he went 0-4 and got swept in the first round in 2013 as the first option with THREE ALLSTARS alongside STEVE NASH and DWIGHT HOWARD?

He finally had his chance to prove himself as a first option with cancerous ChuckBe/BrickBe out. Why did he get swept with multiple allstars on his team? Why wasn't Pau able to win a single game in the first round let alone winning the finals and FMVP!?

In fact, they lost each game by an average of 16pts straight into a sweep. Why did the true FMVP go 0-12 before Kobe and then 0-4 when he finally had his chance to prove himself as the true first option and FMVP as the first option? Should he not have been able to carry the Lakers through the playoffs and the finals and win FMVP as he supposedly did in '09 and '10?

And please no irrelevant deflections in terms of out of context stats that are unrelated to 2013, please try to stay on the topic at hand.

Thank you.

[Real14]

Cuz he's not a winning leader like that.

[superduper]

Cuz he's not a winning leader like that.

But he's the TRUE FMVP of '09 and '10 right? I've been told this many times here.

I've been told Kobe is irrelevant without the GREAT and DOMINANT front court of Pau Gasol. So what happened here?

I really hope somebody can explain this to me.

[Manny98]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[Real14]

But he's the TRUE FMVP of '09 and '10 right? I've been told this many times here.

I've been told Kobe is irrelevant without the GREAT and DOMINANT front court of Pau Gasol. So what happened here?

I really hope somebody can explain this to me.
Yea man same here. I'm lost for words on how Gasol choked like that smh.

[3ball]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is
Kobe did better as the only star on a team than Pau did in Memphis.. actually, a couple of those Memphis casts were stacked and Kobe probably contends with them

and Pau probably doesn't 3-peat with Shaq either - 2 bigs < big/wing

[superduper]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship



Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?



Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

So you're further proving by point by completely deflecting and adding towards the premise of my thread.

Thanks so much Manny :applause:

I truly hope you are able to possess the reading comprehension skills and the attention span to read my well thought out and fool-proof post and provide a rebuttal.

[bigkingsfan]

Kobe pulled a fake injury to avoid being swept.

[superduper]

They have NO answer whatsoever :rockon:

[NBASTATMAN]

They have NO answer whatsoever :rockon:


YOURE an idiot cuz everyone knows the entire backcourt was injured in this playoff series.. Nash tried playing despite a really bad back in two games and then he pulled the plug and didnt play.. Kobe went 2-17 after he lost Odom in 2005 so maybe you should make a thread about that..

[superduper]

YOURE an idiot cuz everyone knows the entire backcourt was injured in this playoff series.. Nash tried playing despite a really bad back in two games and then he pulled the plug and didnt play.. Kobe went 2-17 after he lost Odom in 2005 so maybe you should make a thread about that..

Wait what? I was told Kobe had FOUR ALLSTARS that season and had no excuses for his INCREDIBLE cast of Pau, Dwight, and Nash.

But now we're allowed to make excuses on behalf of Pau for the exact same context?

:wtf: :wtf:

[ImKobe]

So, anyone got any legitimate excuses, as to why Gasol got SWEPT in the first round by a record margin without Kobe?

[superduper]

So, anyone got any legitimate excuses, as to why Gasol got SWEPT in the first round by a record margin without Kobe?

They're literally avoiding this thread as hard as they can

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Wait what? I was told Kobe had FOUR ALLSTARS that season and had no excuses for his INCREDIBLE cast of Pau, Dwight, and Nash.

But now we're allowed to make excuses on behalf of Pau for the exact same context?

:wtf: :wtf:


You are one dumb dude.. The entire backcourt was comprised of CBA players once Nash went down. Remember these are guys who never even played in the NBA yet are expected to perform in NBA PLAYOFFS vs Team who almost won the title..

So no Nash, Kobe, Meeks, or even BLAKE to play any guard position .. Kobe had 3 ALL NBA players PLUS 6TH MAN in 2011 and got SWEPT.. :roll:

[superduper]

You are one dumb dude.. The entire backcourt was comprised of CBA players once Nash went down. Remember these are guys who never even played in the NBA yet are expected to perform in NBA PLAYOFFS vs Team who almost won the title..

So no Nash, Kobe, Meeks, or even BLAKE to play any guard position .. Kobe had 3 ALL NBA players PLUS 6TH MAN in 2011 and got SWEPT.. :roll:

Sorry but we are not talking about Le2011 right now.

We're talking about 2013 please stay on topic.

No deflections.

[NBASTATMAN]

Sorry but we are not talking about Le2011 right now.

We're talking about 2013 please stay on topic.

No deflections.


Deflect away but I won.. Have a good one dumb dumb.. :rockon:

[superduper]

Deflect away but I won.. Have a good one dumb dumb.. :rockon:

Thread about 2013.

NBASTATMAN brings up 2011 for some strange reason even though it is completely unrelated.

NBASTATMAN: I won.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[The Iron Fist]

Deflect away but I won.. Have a good one dumb dumb.. :rockon:
Deflect to 2013, when the thread states 2013.


And this is how lebron is goat, after getting swept 6 times in the finals.:facepalm

[superduper]

Deflect to 2013, when the thread states 2013.


And this is how lebron is goat, after getting swept 6 times in the finals.:facepalm

Bran stans are in complete ****ing shambles right now :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Thread about 2013.

NBASTATMAN brings up 2011 for some strange reason even though it is completely unrelated.

NBASTATMAN: I won.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


DUH but 12B GOT SWEPT WITH 3 ALL NBA PLAYERS AND 6TH MAN OF YEAR so its ok for GASOL to get swept when every guard on your team isnt playing..

http://www.espn.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9215577/2013-nba-playoffs-los-angeles-lakers-rule-steve-nash-out


Has any other team with 3 ALL NBA PLAYERS and 6 MAN OF YEAR BEEN SWEPT ? LOL

[superduper]

DUH but 12B GOT SWEPT WITH 3 ALL NBA PLAYERS AND 6TH MAN OF YEAR so its ok for GASOL to get swept when every guard on your team isnt playing..

http://www.espn.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/9215577/2013-nba-playoffs-los-angeles-lakers-rule-steve-nash-out


Has any other team with 3 ALL NBA PLAYERS and 6 MAN OF YEAR BEEN SWEPT ? LOL

https://media.tenor.com/images/1e425f0991c66cd840f78b389e84f5c9/tenor.gif

[Manny98]

So, anyone got any legitimate excuses, as to why Gasol got SWEPT in the first round by a record margin without Kobe?
Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[superduper]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship


Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

But why could he not win FMVP in 2013 when he was given first option reigns without Brick? Wait hold up... forget FMVP...why did he get SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND :roll:

The fact that you keep avoiding the question and reposting this over and over is proving that I'm right :oldlol:

Go for it again Manny, spam my thread with it :roll: :roll:

[superduper]

bump

[superduper]

ahem

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is



:cheers: :lol

[Manny98]

ahem
Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[superduper]

What do all of the years in the pictures above by Autism98 have to do with 2013?

Again, for the uneducated Americans that struggle with reading comprehension, this thread is about 2013.

Please provide insightful debate for that year only.

Previous years to that are absolutely irrelevant. We are discussing Pau as a FIRST OPTION without CancerBe to anchor him down.

Why did he go 0-4 as the first option without CancerBe?

Constant deflections just further prove my point that Pau Gasol is an absolute nobody without Kobe Bryant.

Thank you.

[Manny98]

What do all of the years in the pictures above by Autism98 have to do with 2013?

Again, for the uneducated Americans that struggle with reading comprehension, this thread is about 2013.

Please provide insightful debate for that year only.

Previous years to that are absolutely irrelevant. We are discussing Pau as a FIRST OPTION without CancerBe to anchor him down.

Why did he go 0-4 as the first option without CancerBe?

Constant deflections just further prove my point that Pau Gasol is an absolute nobody without Kobe Bryant.

Thank you.
Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[The Iron Fist]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is
Lebron losing six times doesnt make Pau a superstar.

[Manny98]

Lebron losing six times doesnt make Pau a superstar.
Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[Manny98]

Manny straight up knows that he has nothing to say regarding 2013.

He knows Pau's reality without Kobe got straight up exposed.

That's why he can only resort to copy and pasting the same deluded unrelated deflection in an attempt to make us forget the reality of the topic at hand.

Try harder bro, you're failing miserably.

Pau is absolutely nothing without Kobe, you know it, we know it, it's the reason you keep spamming that bs. Keep it up and keep further proving my point :cheers:

Lebron losing six times doesnt make Pau a superstar.
Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffsol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

[superduper]

Manny straight up knows that he has nothing to say regarding 2013.

He knows Pau's reality without Kobe got straight up exposed.

That's why he can only resort to copy and pasting the same deluded unrelated deflection in an attempt to make us forget the reality of the topic at hand.

Try harder bro, you're failing miserably.

Pau is absolutely nothing without Kobe, you know it, we know it, it's the reason you keep spamming that bs. Keep it up and keep further proving my point :cheers:.

[Rico2016]

Kobe pre Gasol

2005 - misses playoffs

2006 - barely makes the playoffs and chokes a 3-1 lead in the 1st round

2007 - swept in the 1st round


Kobe with Gasol

2008 - finals

2009 - Championship

2010 - Championship

https://i.postimg.cc/9MP6x9RT/photo.jpg

Guess who led the Lakers in both plus minus and win shares in both 09 and 10?


https://i.postimg.cc/N00VV5HV/Cma-U7-Py-WEAAao-IA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/y8D8HYcJ/download-3.jpg

Gasol transformed a team from first round fodder into championship caliber if that is not superstar caliber i don't know what is

Wow this one's over QUICK. Nice work, Manny

[superduper]

Wow this one's over QUICK. Nice work, Manny

What does it have to do with 2013?

[superduper]

What does it have to do with 2013?

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