Rookie Steph: 17.5 ppg, 5.9 apg, 36 mpg vs Rookie Trae: 16.8 ppg, 7.4 apg, 30 mpg

[k0kakw0rld]

Trae is playing less minutes than Steph did his rookie year.

Turnovers are about the same.

I am expecting Trae to finish the season strong. So he will kill Steph's rookie year PPG stat.

MPG = Minutes per game

They are basically the same player. The main difference is Trae will be able to stay healthy. Which was Steph's main problem early on in his career.

[Uncle Drew]

Steph Curry FG%: .462
Trae Young FG%: .408

Steph Curry 3P%: .437
Trae Young 3P%: .304

Steph Curry WS: 4.7
Trae Young WS: 0.6

Steph Curry BPM: 1.0
Trae Young BPM: -3.2

Steph Curry defense: Bad
Trae Young defense: maybe the worst in league history

GSW Pace: 100.4 (1st in the league)
ATL Pace: 104.4 (1st in the league)

Curry ranks better in almost every statistical category, on a bum ankle, on better efficiency, with less possessions per game, in a league where you were allowed to play defense.

[k0kakw0rld]

Steph Curry FG%: .462
Trae Young FG%: .408

Steph Curry 3P%: .437
Trae Young 3P%: .304

Steph Curry WS: 4.7
Trae Young WS: 0.6

Steph Curry BPM: 1.0
Trae Young BPM: -3.2

Steph Curry defense: Bad
Trae Young defense: maybe the worst in league history

GSW Pace: 100.4 (1st in the league)
ATL Pace: 104.4 (1st in the league)

Curry ranks better in almost every statistical category, on a bum ankle, on better efficiency, with less possessions per game, in a league where you were allowed to play defense.
You are actually an idiot for bringing up field goal pct. Win shares, team pace etc considering how much better Curry's teammates were compared to what Trae got right now. Still is a better play maker and passer than Steph was his rookie year.

Curry averaged 3.2 fouls a game terrible defender (bad is an under-statement).

[Uncle Drew]

You are actually an idiot for bringing up field goal pct. Win shares, team pace etc considering how much better Curry's teammates were compared to what Trae got right now. Still is a better play maker and passer than Steph was his rookie year.

Curry averaged 3.2 fouls a game terrible defender (bad is an under-statement).
1). Win shares are an individual statistic, just like BPM and so on and so on. Stop hiding from it because it doesn't fit your retarded agenda.
2). What the **** does quality of the team have to do with pace?
3). The fact that the Hawks are a worse team, should speak in favor of Young. Curry had to share the ball, had to share his shots with Monte Ellis. Trae Young gets to do whatever the hell he pleases.
4). Amount of fouls =/= bad or good defense.
5). John Collins >>>>>>>> Trae Young.

[BigShotBob]

OP stats picking up women: 0

[k0kakw0rld]

1). Win shares are an individual statistic, just like BPM and so on and so on. Stop hiding from it because it doesn't fit your retarded agenda.
2). What the **** does quality of the team have to do with pace?
3). The fact that the Hawks are a worse team, should speak in favor of Young. Curry had to share the ball, had to share his shots with Monte Ellis. Trae Young gets to do whatever the hell he pleases.
4). Amount of fouls =/= bad or good defense.
5). John Collins >>>>>>>> Trae Young.
Don't talk to me about advanced stats

That explains why he's played less minutes than Steph did his rookie year? Watch games before you speak on a topic.

Dumb argument, Collins isn't a rookie you dumb-****. If you want to play this game. Then Monta >>>>>>>>>>>> Steph, back then? :confusedshrug: .

Also since FG% is important why is Kobe vs LeBron a debate? :confusedshrug:

[Uncle Drew]

''Don't talk to me about advanced stats because they ruin any credibility this shitty thread and my shitty opinion had.''

:oldlol:

[k0kakw0rld]

OP stats picking up women: 0
BigShotBobbie stats picking up men: 2/3

You missed the opportunity to be perfect, when you tried me because I don't deal with fakkits and transgenders.

[k0kakw0rld]

''Don't talk to me about advanced stats because they ruin any credibility this shitty thread and my shitty opinion had.''

:oldlol:
No, idiot but are you willing to bring advanced stats in every argument or you simply picked whatever stats was giving Curry the advantage. Which wasn't the goal of this thread.

Comparing two players, who literally were being compared already. Posting similar stats (5 main stat categories), you get triggered because? :confusedshrug:

One, still got 29 games to go to his rookie season.

[DMAVS41]

Looks way better now than he did at the start of the year.

Year 3 will be when you'll be able to tell what player he likely will be and then become.

Hawks should have moved Bazemore and been willing to take salary back.

I can't imagine the Blazers would have turned down Bazemore for 2 of their bad contracts....while giving up a protected first or something.

Not sure how the Hawks didn't turn Bazemore, Dedmon, and Lin into something.

Even if you have to take back some salary, who cares, it isn't like a superstar is going to the Hawks this year...and the free agent class sucks next year.

Hawks should have been dumping ground to set up the franchise for the summer of 2021...while letting their young guys progress.

[BigShotBob]

BigShotBobbie stats picking up men: 2/3

You missed the opportunity to be perfect, when you tried me because I don't deal with fakkits and transgenders.

I tried to pick you up?

[hold this L]

cokehead with another incredibly stupid topic. I can see Trey ending up a better playmaker if he keeps developing annually however.

[hold this L]

Steph Curry FG%: .462
Trae Young FG%: .408

Steph Curry 3P%: .437
Trae Young 3P%: .304

Steph Curry WS: 4.7
Trae Young WS: 0.6

Steph Curry BPM: 1.0
Trae Young BPM: -3.2

Steph Curry defense: Bad
Trae Young defense: maybe the worst in league history

GSW Pace: 100.4 (1st in the league)
ATL Pace: 104.4 (1st in the league)

Curry ranks better in almost every statistical category, on a bum ankle, on better efficiency, with less possessions per game, in a league where you were allowed to play defense.
Imagine showing PPG and not showing the % when the difference is 6% and 13%

:lol

[Celtics 1825]

Curry shot 43% from 3 right out of the gate and has never had a season below 41%. He's always been efficient. Meanwhile Trae Young is shooting 30% from 3 :lol

OP takes yet another L, what a surprise.

[atljonesbro]

Steph came out what, 3 years older? Get back to me in 3 years. Also if you remove his one all time worst month, the gaps are closer. Trae has been more efficient than Luka Doncic on the season aside from that month.

[ArbitraryWater]

Who cares? Rookie Steph wasn't ATG so who cares?

It's not his rookie year when he made his ascension.

[FireDavidKahn]

Trae is playing less minutes than Steph did his rookie year.

Turnovers are about the same.

I am expecting Trae to finish the season strong. So he will kill Steph's rookie year PPG stat.

MPG = Minutes per game

They are basically the same player. The main difference is Trae will be able to stay healthy. Which was Steph's main problem early on in his career.
Imagine comparing box scores without even watching them.

[Big164]

Just shows how good curry always was from 3.

[Celtics 1825]

Steph came out what, 3 years older? Get back to me in 3 years. Also if you remove his one all time worst month, the gaps are closer. Trae has been more efficient than Luka Doncic on the season aside from that month.
Steph entered the league at 21, Trae is 20. Only 1 year difference.

[dbugz]

OP's basketball IQ = "0"

Stop talking about basketball dumb@ss :oldlol:

[atljonesbro]

Steph entered the league at 21, Trae is 20. Only 1 year difference.
Trae entered the league as 19. Why would you say when Steph "entered" the league but not Trae? I'll backtrack and say 2 years older. How about you? Hit me up in 2 years.

[Celtics 1825]

Trae entered the league as 19. Why would you say when Steph "entered" the league but not Trae? I'll backtrack and say 2 years older. How about you? Hit me up in 2 years.
I was referring to how old they were when they played their first NBA game. Trae was 20 since he was born in September 1998.

[Wally450]

I was hard on Trae at first but I think he'll find his groove in the coming seasons. Can be a 25/10 guy.

[tontoz]

Steph's TS his rookie year was 56.8%, his worst by far. His career TS is 62.4%.

Trae's current TS is 52%. He has a long way to go to be compared to the best shooter in league history.

[eliteballer]

Curry had that 3-ball dropping though.

[4pointshot]

Meanwhile, third year Buddy Hield is shooting like fourth year Curry:

Hield .479 FG% 3.5/7.6 .455 3P 20.6 ppg
Curry .451 FG% 3.5/7.7 .453 3P 22.9 ppg

[AlternativeAcc.]

Meanwhile, third year Buddy Hield is shooting like fourth year Curry:

Hield .479 FG% 3.5/7.6 .455 3P 20.6 ppg
Curry .451 FG% 3.5/7.7 .453 3P 22.9 ppg
How come nobody ever talks about Buddy Hield?

He's the best shooter in the league. Probably should be runaway MIP right?

[bobopenguin]

op is an idiot.

Trae has a team build around him.
Steph had a ballhog Ellis before him.

u are embarrassing entire asian ppl here.

[tontoz]

How come nobody ever talks about Buddy Hield?

He's the best shooter in the league. Probably should be runaway MIP right?


He is showing out but best shooter in the league? Slow your roll.

Curry is averaging 28.7 with a TS of 66%.
Hield is averaging 20.5 with a TS of 61%.

Sactown certainly has a great young backcourt going forward.

[4pointshot]

He is showing out but best shooter in the league? Slow your roll.

Curry is averaging 28.7 with a TS of 66%.
Hield is averaging 20.5 with a TS of 61%.

Sactown certainly has a great young backcourt going forward.

As a shooter, Hield is about where Curry was at in 2013-14, the year before he won his first MVP, and not far back from that year:

Hield 2018-19: FG% .479 3P 3.5/7.6 .455 TS .608 20.5 ppg
Curry 2013-14: FG% .471 3P 3.3/7.9 .424 TS .610 24.0 ppg
Curry 2014-15: FG% .487 3P 3.6/8.1 .443 TS .638 23.8 ppg

[Sambacher]

Why does anyone give threads like this the time of day? Just let them die

[k0kakw0rld]

Curry shot 43% from 3 right out of the gate and has never had a season below 41%. He's always been efficient. Meanwhile Trae Young is shooting 30% from 3 :lol

OP takes yet another L, what a surprise.
I don't get it tho :confusedshrug:

What exactly triggered you in my OP. All I said was that they have similar stats and they may be the same player.

What L am I taking.

Ice Trae is on pace to close the season with a better PPG and APG than Steph's rookie year.

I am expecting the other idiot, to bring up advanced stats :facepalm

[k0kakw0rld]

Why does anyone give threads like this the time of day? Just let them die
When it comes to the main statistical categories, they have similar stats.

And that is all I said.
Why y'all get so easily triggered, its's comical :lol

[tontoz]

As a shooter, Hield is about where Curry was at in 2013-14, the year before he won his first MVP, and not far back from that year:

Hield 2018-19: FG% .479 3P 3.5/7.6 .455 TS .608 20.5 ppg
Curry 2013-14: FG% .471 3P 3.3/7.9 .424 TS .610 24.0 ppg
Curry 2014-15: FG% .487 3P 3.6/8.1 .443 TS .638 23.8 ppg


Being comparable to Curry several years ago is a far cry from being the best shooter in the league right now.

[AlternativeAcc.]

He is showing out but best shooter in the league? Slow your roll.

Curry is averaging 28.7 with a TS of 66%.
Hield is averaging 20.5 with a TS of 61%.

Sactown certainly has a great young backcourt going forward.
Theres a difference between scoring and shooting kid. Curry gets gifted open looks all game every game due to the insane spacing and team work of the warriors.

Buddy has a better 3pt. percentage than curry.. yes on less attempts, but his shots are much more difficult on average

Buddy > curry as a shooter

I've seen enough of curry in the playoffs to know this. His shooting numbers fall off a cliff in the playoffs.

Curry isnt the best shooter of all time... not even close

[tontoz]

Theres a difference between scoring and shooting kid. Curry gets gifted open looks all game every game due to the insane spacing and team work of the warriors.

Buddy has a better 3pt. percentage than curry.. yes on less attempts, but his shots are much more difficult on average

Buddy > curry as a shooter

I've seen enough of curry in the playoffs to know this. His shooting numbers fall off a cliff in the playoffs.

Curry isnt the best shooter of all time... not even close

:facepalm

Curry is easily the best shooter in league history. Nobody else is even in the same zip code. Who do you think is the best shooter? I can't wait for a good laugh.

Nobody takes more difficult 3s than Curry. He takes them off the dribble, several feet behind the line, with a hand in his face.

For his career he is shooting 40.8% from 3 in the playoffs, on 10 attempts per game. He is also shooting 50% on 2s. That is hardly falling off a cliff.

Curry is taking 11 3s per game. No team is leaving him open that many times. When he is out injured they look like a different team. He is the one that creates the spacing with his range and quick release.

[AlternativeAcc.]

:facepalm

Curry is easily the best shooter in league history. Nobody else is even in the same zip code. Who do you think is the best shooter? I can't wait for a good laugh.

Nobody takes more difficult 3s than Curry. He takes them off the dribble, several feet behind the line, with a hand in his face.

For his career he is shooting 40.8% from 3 in the playoffs, on 10 attempts per game. He is also shooting 50% on 2s. That is hardly falling off a cliff.

Curry is taking 11 3s per game. No team is leaving him open that many times. When he is out injured they look like a different team. He is the one that creates the spacing with his range and quick release.
Give me Klay and durant. They're better and more reliable when it matters. We've seen this time and time again.

And then you got ray allen, nash, reggie miller, Danny green, hell maybe even derek fisher in terms of just pure shooting.

Currys is all flash, no substance

[tontoz]

Give me Klay and durant. They're better and more reliable when it matters. We've seen this time and time again.

And then you got ray allen, nash, reggie miller, Danny green, hell maybe even derek fisher in terms of just pure shooting.

Currys is all flash, no substance


:roll:

All time NBA 3 pointers made in a season:

1. Stephen Curry 402 2016
2. Stephen Curry 324 2017
3. Stephen Curry 286 2015
4. Klay Thompson 276 2016
5. Stephen Curry 272 2013
6. Ray Allen 269 2006
7. Klay Thompson 268 2017
8. Dennis Scott 267 1996
9. James Harden 265 2018
10. James Harden 262 2017
11. Stephen Curry 260 2014


Curry is by far the most prolific 3 point shooter in league history. Not only does he take and make far more, he also is a career 43.7% shooter from 3. That is better than Ray Allen (40%), Reggie Miller (39.5%), Steve Nash (42.8%), and Klay (41.9%), Durant (38.3%). Those guys take far fewer 3s than Steph and still shoot a lower percentage.

Curry is also a career 51.5% shooter on 2s and 90.8% from the foul line.

If you think any of those guys are a better shooter than Steph you must have a drinking problem.









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[ImKobe]

Theres a difference between scoring and shooting kid. Curry gets gifted open looks all game every game due to the insane spacing and team work of the warriors.

Buddy has a better 3pt. percentage than curry.. yes on less attempts, but his shots are much more difficult on average

Buddy > curry as a shooter

I've seen enough of curry in the playoffs to know this. His shooting numbers fall off a cliff in the playoffs.

Curry isnt the best shooter of all time... not even close

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Curry's pulling up 5-10 feet behind the 3-pt line in transition, shooting step-back 3s from 30 ft out while these other kids are catch-and-shooting wide open 3s from behind the line. He's shot 61.4%TS over their four straight Finals runs, heck, he had one shooting ~66%TS while averaging 28/6/7 for a 16 - 1 Playoff run.

[hold this L]

Theres a difference between scoring and shooting kid. Curry gets gifted open looks all game every game due to the insane spacing and team work of the warriors.

Buddy has a better 3pt. percentage than curry.. yes on less attempts, but his shots are much more difficult on average

Buddy > curry as a shooter

I've seen enough of curry in the playoffs to know this. His shooting numbers fall off a cliff in the playoffs.

Curry isnt the best shooter of all time... not even close
Holy phuck you are an idiot

[k0kakw0rld]

Trae is now averaging 17.5 ppg and 7.7 apg since I last created this thread.

[k0kakw0rld]

:confusedshrug:

Rookie Trae 17.8 PPG I think he should be at 18 ppg after tonight's game. :bowdown:

[k0kakw0rld]

Why does anyone give threads like this the time of day? Just let them die
You were saying? :confusedshrug:

[falconfan13]

:confusedshrug:

Rookie Trae 17.8 PPG I think he should be at 18 ppg after tonight's game. :bowdown:

You would be correct he is now at 18.3 ppg and 7.8 apg after this game.

I won't say one way or another on the curry and trae debate because i don't consider them similar players to be compared that much.

But the one thing i im not a fan of is the guy earlier talking about trae having a legit team built around him lol. Everyone considered atlanta the worst team in the nba and the weakest rosters in the league coming into this season. Just because Collins has shown out, Huerter has done well, and Trae has become what he is now doesn't mean he had a legit team ready for him. If anything trae has helped make this team be as good as it really is because his best attribute is making everyone else around him better.

[warriorfan]

With no Steph, there

[k0kakw0rld]

With no Steph, there’s no Trae Young
Thanks to Trae the "dingo" bulshit will be coming to an end, sooner than later.

Trae is thicker than your "Womandingo" :lol

[falconfan13]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]With no Steph, there

[AlternativeAcc.]

Thanks to Trae the "dingo" bulshit will be coming to an end, sooner than later.

Trae is thicker than your "Womandingo" :lol
Swap Trae for Curry and the Warriors become a scarier team.

Can you imagine the Warriors with a legit floor general who doesn't spaz up under pressure? :bowdown:

Trae Young is legitimately a better player than steph curry right now.

[warriorfan]

The iq in this thread is dropping rapidly

[ShawkFactory]

The iq in this thread is dropping rapidly
Obviously. They

[k0kakw0rld]

The iq in this thread is dropping rapidly
Bro, your guy doesn't play defense. He hides behind Klay, Iggy and relies on them to take on his defensive match-ups. And that is the reason why you are the only one, who once had the audacity to call him the best player in the world. :biggums:

Offensively, you put a little pressure on him and he shrinks. And this is the main reason why he isn't MVP material when it comes to playoff basketball or NBA final basketball.

[Mr.GOAT2408]

He definitely belongs in the NBA, in today's soft NBA guys like Curry and Trae are very valuable. Yeah they would have been pretty useless in the 90s and early 2000s but the league has made it easier for guards since, Trae will be a star deal with it

[tontoz]

His offense is improving but he is dead last, by a big margin, in DRPM at the point.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/DRPM/position/1

[Bronbron23]

Steph Curry FG%: .462
Trae Young FG%: .408

Steph Curry 3P%: .437
Trae Young 3P%: .304

Steph Curry WS: 4.7
Trae Young WS: 0.6

Steph Curry BPM: 1.0
Trae Young BPM: -3.2

Steph Curry defense: Bad
Trae Young defense: maybe the worst in league history

GSW Pace: 100.4 (1st in the league)
ATL Pace: 104.4 (1st in the league)

Curry ranks better in almost every statistical category, on a bum ankle, on better efficiency, with less possessions per game, in a league where you were allowed to play defense.
They're much closer than you making it seem to be. Trae is as much of a better passer as Steph was a scorer so they even out there. Everything else is pretty even so it's pretty much a tie

[k0kakw0rld]

They will hate but they will end up joining the ship. At the end of the day.

Kid is too special not to be liked.

[k0kakw0rld]

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Just came back from vacation and just passing by...

[k0kakw0rld]

He is better than Steph, it's time for y'all to accept it. Same shooting range (Curry just been doing it for a while). Better passer, a better clutch performer, both liabilities on defense.