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Shaquille O'Neal
02-12-2019, 07:45 PM
https://thegruelingtruth.net/basketball/17-reasons-michael-jordan-greater-lebron-james/




For you LeStans - the last video where each talk about "the greatest in the world" is the most telling. Michael was humble - Lebron said he was the greatest then shot 13-32 and lost the finals.
That is the reason Lebron is so off-putting and controversial.

HoopologyPhD
02-12-2019, 08:00 PM
Congrats on post 666!

3ball
02-12-2019, 08:05 PM
Solid read..

I liked these stats, and MJ played 60 less playoff games:


Playoff game-winners/tie-ers with 24 seconds or less

Manny98
02-12-2019, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=3ball]Solid read..

I liked these stats, and MJ played 60 less playoff games:


Playoff game-winners/tie-ers with 24 seconds or less

FKAri
02-12-2019, 08:12 PM
Michael: "Well it's so tough to compare across eras. We've had so many great, great players in our league's history. It would be a disservice to those who came before me for... [lengthy incoherent rambling removed at editor's discretion] ... and well gee it's just so darn tough to pick the best"

LeBron: "I'm the GOAT **** all those other nigguhs"


I LOVE IT



:yaohappy:

Spurs m8
02-12-2019, 08:13 PM
Its actually insulting that LeBron is even mentioned anywhere even close to the GOAT.

The fact anyone would even believe he's an actual GOAT, its actually laughable.....like, on what fvcking planet is he even close? hahahahahh

Spurs m8
02-12-2019, 08:13 PM
Michael: "Well it's so tough to compare across eras. We've had so many great, great players in our league's history. And well gee it's just so darn tough to pick one"

LeBron: "I'm the GOAT **** all those other nigguhs"


I LOVE IT



:yaohappy:

Keep slurping his c0ck

bullettooth
02-12-2019, 08:14 PM
I like these stats a little better

https://i.postimg.cc/xjRs3qy4/Screenshot-20181212-225616.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SRTfF2gQ/De-F6-V-o-Xk-AEz-Fk-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/WphSLVB9/IMG-1213.jpg

WOW! LOOK AT ALL THOSE STATS!

This guy must be awesome. How many times do you think he'd win if he made it to the finals 9 times?

Spurs m8
02-12-2019, 08:15 PM
WOW! LOOK AT ALL THOSE STATS!

This guy must be awesome. How many times do you think he'd win if he made it to the finals 9 times?

At least 6 times, surely?

superduper
02-12-2019, 08:38 PM
Its actually insulting that LeBron is even mentioned anywhere even close to the GOAT.

The fact anyone would even believe he's an actual GOAT, its actually laughable.....like, on what fvcking planet is he even close? hahahahahh

Straight the fcuk up

Manny98
02-12-2019, 08:54 PM
WOW! LOOK AT ALL THOSE STATS!

This guy must be awesome. How many times do you think he'd win if he made it to the finals 9 times?
How come MJ only got to the finals 6 times that's the least of everyone in the top 10 outside of Keem

bullettooth
02-12-2019, 08:56 PM
How come MJ only got to the finals 6 times that's the least of everyone in the top 10 outside of Keem

Not going to answer my question?

Manny98
02-12-2019, 09:00 PM
Not going to answer my question?
9 + 3 = 12

6 + 6 = 12

StrongLurk
02-12-2019, 09:11 PM
Bron isn't skilled enough or mentally tough enough to be the GOAT.

Doesn't mean he isn't one of the best ever to lace em up.

But he is an average shooter at best over his career and has too many moments where he shook himself (2011 finals, ****ing free throws for the last 5 years) compared to Mike.

MJ is the most unstoppable player ever 0-20ft from the basket. And Lebron isn't even a good 3 point shooter to offset that. If Lebron could shoot threes like Curry then yeah he'd probably be GOAT.

NBAGOAT
02-12-2019, 09:21 PM
this was worse than the stuff nobody touches jordan comes out with and ofc at the bottom of the article, writer cites nobody touches jordan as a source. None of the points have any depth of support, it's one stat or one game or even worse just some general claim.

I know there are far better articles arguing for jordan out there since it's not that hard to

Shaquille O'Neal
02-13-2019, 12:45 AM
How come MJ only got to the finals 6 times that's the least of everyone in the top 10 outside of Keem



I don't remember Bird or Duncan going to more than 6. Wilt either.
Your pics are stupid - Lebron has allowed his teams to get into so many elimination games so the pool is larger. But you know this of course.


Also forget game-tying or go ahead - how many come from behind or game winners AT ALL has Lebron hit in his 49 finals games? Answer = 0.0.

Shaquille O'Neal
02-13-2019, 12:47 AM
this was worse than the stuff nobody touches jordan comes out with and ofc at the bottom of the article, writer cites nobody touches jordan as a source. None of the points have any depth of support, it's one stat or one game or even worse just some general claim.

I know there are far better articles arguing for jordan out there since it's not that hard to



I didn't claim this was the definitive guide to why MJ easily Trumps Lefraud - only a "good read".

egokiller
02-13-2019, 12:57 AM
Its actually insulting that LeBron is even mentioned anywhere even close to the GOAT.

The fact anyone would even believe he's an actual GOAT, its actually laughable.....like, on what fvcking planet is he even close? hahahahahh

It's more of a "who can we talk about right now relative to MJ".

Kobe retired, so the media needs a product to promote. 3/9 finals record while complete shit, is the best they have atm, so it's who they are talking about. When LeBron retires, there will be ZERO comparisons to MJ or Kobe. People will look at 3/9, then see Kyrie and Ray Allen's finals shots, and write the guy off as a modern day 1/9 Jerry West.

eliteballer
02-13-2019, 01:00 AM
You only need one, and that's LeROID James.

baudkarma
02-13-2019, 04:25 AM
[...Michael was humble - Lebron said he was the greatest then shot 13-32 and lost the finals.
That is the reason Lebron is so off-putting and controversial.

Michael Jordan was never humble. He was (and is) an arrogant, trash-talking, egotistical asshat. Like a lot of other great players, that's in his DNA. It's part of who he is. It's a huge part of what makes him great. A humble MJ or Kobe or Bird would be some other, lesser player.

Humility is not a virtue. Arrogance is not a vice. They're personality traits, part of what makes people who they are. When arrogance is not coupled with matching ability, it becomes conceit. Conceit is bad. But Jordan clearly had the ability to justify his arrogance.

Phoenix
02-13-2019, 07:13 AM
How come MJ only got to the finals 6 times that's the least of everyone in the top 10 outside of Keem

Bird- 5 times
Wilt- 6 times
Shaq- 6 times
Duncan- 6 times

Gileraracer
02-13-2019, 07:41 AM
WOW! LOOK AT ALL THOSE STATS!

This guy must be awesome. How many times do you think he'd win if he made it to the finals 9 times?

With 2 superteams you say? :eek:


AT LEAST 6!

Shaquille O'Neal
02-13-2019, 10:40 AM
Michael Jordan was never humble. He was (and is) an arrogant, trash-talking, egotistical asshat. Like a lot of other great players, that's in his DNA. It's part of who he is. It's a huge part of what makes him great. A humble MJ or Kobe or Bird would be some other, lesser player.

Humility is not a virtue. Arrogance is not a vice. They're personality traits, part of what makes people who they are. When arrogance is not coupled with matching ability, it becomes conceit. Conceit is bad. But Jordan clearly had the ability to justify his arrogance.



Let me rephrase. Michael was publicly humble. I remember in college in 1991 there was a Playboy article where Jordan was actually pretty boastful and we all commented how strange it was to hear him talk like that.
It's one thing to know it and not say it; far another to mistakenly say it and even down deep you know it isn't true. No way Lebron, hooked up to a lie detector, thinks he's really the GOAT.

Ben Simmons 25
02-13-2019, 10:43 AM
Michael was humble?


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that’s probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen on ISH.

Michael PRETENDED to be humble.

There’s a huge difference between being something and pretending to be something.

Holy hell you’re oblivious. LOLLLLLLL

Shaquille O'Neal
02-13-2019, 05:16 PM
[quote=Ben Simmons 25]Michael was humble?


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that