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3ball
02-14-2019, 01:31 AM
He did beat those Warriors

Bawkish
02-14-2019, 01:35 AM
2016 Warriors barely won against OKC teletubbies FFS

jstern
02-14-2019, 01:42 AM
That Celtics team might be the best team of all time.

iamgine
02-14-2019, 01:51 AM
The game has changed so much that 1986 Celtics won't win even against 2019 Celtics despite being a much greater team. It would be open 3pt after open 3pt almost every possession. Defending against the modern team takes team defense training and preparation, which don't happen overnight.

3ball
02-14-2019, 01:54 AM
The game has changed so much that 1986 Celtics won't win even against 2019 Celtics despite being a much greater team. It would be open 3pt after open 3pt almost every possession. Defending against the modern team takes team defense training and preparation, which don't happen overnight.
Who said the game had to happen overnight

We can assume they had years to develop into these teams. Not just thrown in a gym. That would be like getting the answers before the test (for the warriors)

Jameerthefear
02-14-2019, 01:58 AM
Don't care. Stop making stupid ass threads you're a grown ass man.

SpaceJam
02-14-2019, 02:04 AM
Behind Kareem? Agreed

bigkingsfan
02-14-2019, 02:06 AM
Boston greatest challenge was a 48 win team led by a 2nd year Hakeem, yikes.

PickernRoller
02-14-2019, 02:07 AM
Given the stupidity of this thread I'm not sure if the Kobe fam should back up 3-ball in this one.

Letting the LeTards eat him alive at this point might be a better learning experience.

Nike D'Antoni
02-14-2019, 02:24 AM
That Celtics team was Bill Goldberg of the generation, the Warriors were Brock Lesnar.

3ball
02-14-2019, 02:26 AM
Klay scored 4-6 points below his RS average in the 3 Finals wins - he's been a significant Finals underperformer... Ainge would probably fight him

Curry was hurt and hasn't been a Finals MVP player like DJ, who was a 6-time first team defender and HOF.. How many all-defense does curry have?

Now the frontcourt..

https://media.giphy.com/media/wWue0rCDOphOE/200.gif
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SpaceJam
02-14-2019, 02:31 AM
The fact that this is even a debate tells me all I need to know.

'86 Celtics v '16 Warriors...arguable

Major difference, Bron beat the Warriors in a series...MJ got swept twice :roll: :roll: :roll:

72-10
02-14-2019, 02:40 AM
The game has changed so much that 1986 Celtics won't win even against 2019 Celtics despite being a much greater team. It would be open 3pt after open 3pt almost every possession. Defending against the modern team takes team defense training and preparation, which don't happen overnight.

What? That 86 Celtics team had like 6 different guys who usually scored in double figures and all of whom could give you 20 points if needed. Now that's a scary team. Don't sleep on the Celtics. They beat the Lakers in both reg season match ups, they faced Hakeem and a prime Ralph Sampson in the Finals. Now, they might have lost to the lowly Knicks midseason, they might have taken until late January to get the NBA's best record, and they might have almost gotten beaten in a playoff game by the GOAT with a cast of scrubs around him, but I don't think you're going to find too many other knocks on that Celtics team. They toyed with the league that year.

72-10
02-14-2019, 02:43 AM
Who said the game had to happen overnight

We can assume they had years to develop into these teams. Not just thrown in a gym. That would be like getting the answers before the test (for the warriors)

Wow, you give them all that time to evolve, and they might beat the 96 Bulls.

72-10
02-14-2019, 02:49 AM
I'd be curious to hear who you think the Warriors had as backup for Curry besides Klay? The GOAT got swept by that team and he averaged 45 friggin points in the series. How can you say Curry was playing better in 2015-16 than Jordan did in that series?

3ball
02-14-2019, 02:53 AM
The fact that this is even a debate tells me all I need to know.

'86 Celtics v '16 Warriors...arguable


If you think the 16' Warriors beat the Celtics, then the 16' Cavs do too, since they beat the Warriors..

but what's more likely - that the 16' Cavs > 86' Celtics and the 90's Bulls (so lebron is goat), or the Celtics would smash the Warriors worse than LeFraud did and Dwight's bitch isn't the goat?





Major difference, Bron beat the Warriors in a series...MJ got swept twice :roll: :roll: :roll:


Not when he had his championship teams

Again, the Cavs frontline was lebron/love/tristan and they killed Barnes and company, so bird/mchale/parish would toy with Barnes.. in the backcourt, curry/klay were weak against spoiled Kyrie and Dellavedova, so that's easy work for far superior defenders like goat DJ and the born winner Ainge

72-10
02-14-2019, 02:55 AM
1986 Celtics
Bird - 25.8
McHale - 21.3
Parish - 16.1
DJ - 15.6
Ainge - 10.7
Wedman - 8.0
Walton - 7.6

2016 Warriors
Curry - 30.1
Klay - 22.1
Green - 14.0
Barnes - 11.7

Wow, looks like the Warriors lose.

And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 02:55 AM
3ball get some rest bruh your thread are getting worse n worse :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Come back tomorrow well rested this was garbage. Might just make me post a "which team was Mikes greatest Finals win" thread so we can all laugh at Hornacek 10 ppg...


CAREFUL NOW

3ball
02-14-2019, 02:58 AM
3ball get some rest bruh your thread are getting worse n worse :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Come back tomorrow well rested this was garbage. Might just make me post a "which team was Mikes greatest Finals win" thread so we can all laugh at Hornacek 10 ppg...


CAREFUL NOW
Who do you think would win?

If you think the 16' Warriors beat the Celtics, then the Cavs do too, since they beat the Warriors..

but what's more likely - that the 16' Cavs > 86' Celtics and the 90's Bulls (so lebron is goat), or the Celtics would smash the Warriors worse than the Cavs did and Dwight's bitch isn't the goat?

72-10
02-14-2019, 02:59 AM
Any team that has all five starters scoring in double figures is an all-time great team. They had Bill Walton as a backup for center.

And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 03:01 AM
Who do you think would win?

If you think the 16' Warriors beat the Celtics, then the Cavs do too, since they beat the Warriors..

but what's more likely - that the 16' Cavs > 86' Celtics and the 90's Bulls (so lebron is goat), or the Celtics would smash the Warriors worse than the Cavs did and Dwight's bitch isn't the goat?

3baLLLLL, your boy Mikey was getting three 1st round sweeps before savior pippen helped him so stay humble becos Mikey never beat 86 Celtics get a clue

bigkingsfan
02-14-2019, 03:02 AM
Any team that has all five starters scoring in double figures is an all-time great team. They had Bill Walton as a backup for center.
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks had that, Legoat swept them

And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 03:03 AM
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks had that, Legoat swept them

Shut. it. downnnnnnnnnnnn :eek:

3ball
02-14-2019, 03:05 AM
3baLLLLL, your boy Mikey was getting three 1st round sweeps before savior pippen helped him so stay humble becos Mikey never beat 86 Celtics get a clue


Lebron never beat anybody until he teamed up with Wade either

Again, who would win? But be careful...

If you think the 16' Warriors beat the Celtics, then the Cavs do too, since they beat the Warriors..

but what's more likely - that the 16' Cavs > 86' Celtics and the 90's Bulls (so lebron is goat), or the Celtics would smash the Warriors worse than the Cavs did and Dwight's bitch isn't the goat?

72-10
02-14-2019, 03:05 AM
I'd also point out that the Celtics team is too tall for the Warriors. I don't see how the Warriors would have much lane penetration that resulted in actual scores outside of kicking it out to the three. They relied too much on Curry. Klay scored by coming off screens. The Celtics were one of the best passing teams of all time. And while Bird was a unanimous choice for All-NBA First Team that year, the Celtics didn't rely on him in the same way that the Warriors relied on Curry. Teams that rely on one player usually don't succeed.

And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 03:09 AM
Lebron never beat anybody until he teamed up with Wade either

Again, who would win? But be careful...

If you think the 16' Warriors beat the Celtics, then the Cavs do too, since they beat the Warriors..

but what's more likely - that the 16' Cavs > 86' Celtics and the 90's Bulls (so lebron is goat), or the Celtics would smash the Warriors worse than the Cavs did and Dwight's bitch isn't the goat?

3baLLLLL, your boy Mikey was getting three 1st round sweeps before savior pippen helped him so stay humble becos Mikey never beat 86 Celtics get a clue

SpaceJam
02-14-2019, 03:09 AM
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks had that, Legoat swept them

:roll: :roll: :roll:

2013-14 Pacers...Bron beat em.

2011-12 Celtics...Bron beat em.

Etc etc.

3ball
02-14-2019, 03:17 AM
3baLLLLL, your boy Mikey was getting three 1st round sweeps before savior pippen helped him so stay humble becos Mikey never beat 86 Celtics get a clue
MJ won a game from the pistons with 8 point rookie pippen. Let's see if lebron wins a game from the Warriors with 9 guys better than rookie pip

3ball
02-14-2019, 03:21 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

2013-14 Pacers...Bron beat em.

2011-12 Celtics...Bron beat em.

Etc etc.
He only needed 22 ppg to win the 2014 ecf. MJ wouldn't make any of his 6 Finals with that

In 2012, Garnett was 35, Pierce 34, Allen 36.. MJ beat the b2b champ when Isiah was 29, dumars 27, and rodman 29

72-10
02-14-2019, 03:23 AM
K, Speights sucked. He shot 43% from the field and needs to lose some weight. Ezeli sucked. He can't shoot free throws. You can just foul him. Iggy sucks at free throws…

GOLDEN STATE SUCKED AT DEFENSE. GOLDEN STATE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A FIFTH STARTER IN DOUBLE FIGURES.

SpaceJam
02-14-2019, 03:24 AM
He only needed 22 ppg to win the 2014 ecf. MJ wouldn't make any of his 6 Finals with that

In 2012, Garnett was 35, Pierce 34, Allen 36.. MJ beat the b2b champ when Isiah was 29, dumars 27, and rodman 29

Who cares about the trash Pistons? Their 5 starters didn't even all average double digit scoring :roll:

72-10
02-14-2019, 03:30 AM
Who cares about the trash Pistons? Their 5 starters didn't even all average double digit scoring :roll:

The Pistons might were one of the GOAT defenses

3ball
02-14-2019, 03:33 AM
Who cares about the trash Pistons? Their 5 starters didn't even all average double digit scoring :roll:
They beat the 80's Lakers while the Warriors beat nobody - who did the Warriors beat? Don't say okc or Houston because then I'll say the celtics and bulls

72-10
02-14-2019, 03:37 AM
K, so Boston actually averaged more assists per game than the Warriors did. As we can see, the Warriors did not win without Curry. Would the Celtics win without Bird?

3ball
02-14-2019, 03:40 AM
Wow, you give them all that time to evolve, and they might beat the 96 Bulls.
How many years did it take for curry to build the 15' Warriors?.. looks like 5-6 years

the Celtics would learn the 3-point game sufficiently by then.. bird, mchale, ainge and dj would be the shooters.. much worse shooters in today's game picked it up in half a year, let alone 6 years

72-10
02-14-2019, 03:48 AM
Scott Wedman was on that team. He shot 4-4 from three in an 85 Finals game against the Lakers, Finals record at the time. Might have had Michael Cooper guarding him? He might shoot his team into a Finals victory.

Would the Celtics win the championship without Bird, though, is the real question. I think the 86 Celtics could beat the 86 Rockets without Bird. The 16 Warriors didn't beat the 16 Cavs without Curry.