View Full Version : Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:15 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
Your prime is from 25-31 so based on that 7 year stretch LeBron has the GOAT prime :bowdown:
superduper
02-14-2019, 11:21 AM
What's his resume before running away?
kennethgriffen
02-14-2019, 11:22 AM
when you factor in most of lebrons resume is colluded nonsense full of roids/ring chasing/bail outs/lockouts/suspensions... tons of guys actually
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:24 AM
Who has won more championships + MVPs + finals appearances in their PRIME than LeBron i'll wait
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:24 AM
Magic says hi
kennethgriffen
02-14-2019, 11:26 AM
Who has won more championships + MVPs + finals appearances in their PRIME than LeBron i'll wait
tons of guys when you factor in most of lebrons resume is colluded nonsense full of roids/ring chasing/bail outs/lockouts/suspensions...
and lol@ finals appearances
leastern trash. hows he doing in the west right now
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:27 AM
Magic says hi
5 Championships
3 MVPs
12 seasons
8 Finals
superduper
02-14-2019, 11:27 AM
Who has won more championships + MVPs + finals appearances in their PRIME than LeBron i'll wait
What about before running away?
kennethgriffen
02-14-2019, 11:27 AM
Magic says hi
he left out titles and only included "appearances"
:roll:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:28 AM
Magic says hi
Nope LeBron still has more MVPs and was much more dominant statistically try again
kennethgriffen
02-14-2019, 11:30 AM
Nope LeBron still has more MVPs and was much more dominant statistically try again
why are you melting down so hard right now
is it because your idol is about to miss the playoffs and ruin his legacy built on phoney narratives
:lol
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:31 AM
Nope LeBron still has more MVPs and was much more dominant statistically try again
magic has 2 more rings and 1 more finals appearance in 1less seasons but yeah, 1 more regular season award for lebron is crucial :roll: :roll: :roll:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:35 AM
magic has 2 more rings and 1 more finals appearance in 1less seasons but yeah, 1 more regular season award for lebron is crucial :roll: :roll: :roll:
Idgaf about sidekick rings they're not impressive at all only rings won as the MAN count
Anyone else or we can finally concede that LeBron had the GOAT prime
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:37 AM
Idgaf about sidekick rings they're not impressive at all only rings won as the MAN count
Anyone else or we can finally concede that LeBron had the GOAT prime
Magic also has more FMVPs :confusedshrug:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:37 AM
why are you melting down so hard right now
is it because your idol is about to miss the playoffs and ruin his legacy built on phoney narratives
:lol
Kobe missed the playoffs in his absolute prime and was first round fodder the other 2 years from 05-07 :roll: :roll:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:38 AM
Magic also has more FMVPs :confusedshrug:
They both have 3 you moron
ImKobe
02-14-2019, 11:40 AM
Why are we doing at 31? Because Lebron won his last title at that age? Jordan was already a 3x champ at age 30 with a DPOY & 7 straight scoring titles and 3 MVPs. Jordan's numbers in his first 3 titles absolutely crush Lebron's.
There's zero debate as to which player is better or more accomplished, you can come up with some bullshit criteria, but Jordan dominates Lebron in everything, whether it's overall titles (6), MVPs(5), scoring titles(10), DPOY, Finals record. Stop trying to debate it.
superduper
02-14-2019, 11:41 AM
If Manny can't answer a question he just ignores it or spams unrelated deflections
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:41 AM
They both have 3 you moron
No, Lebrons 2016 belong to Kyrie.
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 11:43 AM
Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 5 rings, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Rings, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 4 rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 Rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
Gileraracer
02-14-2019, 11:44 AM
Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 5 rings, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Rings, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 4 rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 Rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
Manny running out of excuses here :lol
superduper
02-14-2019, 11:45 AM
Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 5 rings, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Rings, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 4 rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 Rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
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3ball
02-14-2019, 11:55 AM
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jordan's 3/9 > lebron's 3/13... lebron also had way more help, so he didn't have to do as much:
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
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superduper
02-14-2019, 11:55 AM
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jordan's 3/9 > lebron's 3/13... lebron also had way more help, so he didn't have to do as much:
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER.. 0.274 ws/48
LEBRONf REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.. 0.240 ws/48
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER.. 0.258 ws/48
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER.. 0.238 ws/48
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
Bro not needed.
Phoenix obliterated the Brantards.
Manny98
02-14-2019, 11:58 AM
Why are we doing at 31?
Because what you do at your absolute best is what matters the most and LeBron was better than everyone else
Post 31 isn't your Prime so it doesn't count
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
34-24 Footwork
02-14-2019, 12:01 PM
he left out titles and only included "appearances"
:roll:
thought you were joking but he actually put "appearances"
:lol :lol
TheCorporation
02-14-2019, 12:01 PM
why are you melting down so hard right now
is it because your idol is about to miss the playoffs and ruin his legacy built on phoney narratives
:lol
Sounds like a harsh dig against Kobe :lol :lol
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:02 PM
Because what you do at your absolute best is what matters the most and LeBron was better than everyone else
Post 31 isn't your Prime so it doesn't count
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
:coleman: ... How do you respond to MJ being far more dominant:
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:per_game):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
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Manny98
02-14-2019, 12:03 PM
Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 alpha rings, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 2 alpha Rings, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 3 alpha rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 alpha rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
None of them better than LeBron
7 finals ,4 MVPs ,3 alpha rings,13 seasons
Including taking down 73 win teams and multiple 30 PER seasons :bowdown:
superduper
02-14-2019, 12:04 PM
None of them better than LeBron
7 finals ,4 MVPs ,3 alpha rings,13 seasons
Including taking down 73 win teams and multiple 30 PER seasons
Speaking of PER...Klay as 16 PER this season. 1 whole PER above the average NBA player.
Klay is average, he is not a real allstar.
Warriors have 2 allstars.
TheCorporation
02-14-2019, 12:04 PM
Several modern GOAT level players have 'comparable' accolades to MJ by 31 years old:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 5 rings, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Rings, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 4 rings, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 Rings, 1 MVP, 12 seasons
1) None of them have more MVPs
2) Why did you post "rings" and not FMVPs
#caught
try again, updated with factual info:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 FMVP, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 2 FMVP, 3 MVPs, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 FMVP 1 MVP, 12 seasons
So basically Manny was right...Not a single player has more MVPs or FMVP and LeBron had the most Finals appearances as well. :lol: You're only proving his point more. LeBron either has more FMVPs or MVPs and Finals appearances than EVERY player you listed. Too easy my guy
#caught
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:06 PM
:coleman: ... How do you respond to MJ being far more dominant:
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:per_game):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
Keep runnin Manny.. :lol
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 12:06 PM
Because what you do at your absolute best is what matters the most and LeBron was better than everyone else
Post 31 isn't your Prime so it doesn't count
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
Ok. So if Lebron somehow wins a title this year( possible if Golden state, about 4-5 other Western squads and the same amount of eastern ones all get sucked into a vortex), then it shouldn't count towards his legacy because he was past the arbitrary age you consider those accolades to count.
Of course, the only reason you're coming up with such an asinine concept is a thinly veiled attempt to trivialize the fact that MJ won the same number of titles in 3 years( 96-98), from 33 to 35, that it's taken Lebron 16 years to win. Does that thought make you want to deepthroat a shotgun?:(
Manny98
02-14-2019, 12:09 PM
:coleman: ... How do you respond to MJ being far more dominant:
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:per_game):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html#2004-2016-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 25% more in the playoffs and 33% more in the Finals on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
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Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant? :yaohappy:
TheCorporation
02-14-2019, 12:11 PM
So just to square things up after Phoenix's awful history lesson post...
So, no one has more FMVPs or MVPs or Finals appearances by 31? Thanks for the update :roll: :roll:
TheCorporation
02-14-2019, 12:11 PM
Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant? :yaohappy:
1-9
NeverForget
The day Pippen saved MJ's career.
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 12:13 PM
1) None of them have more MVPs
2) Why did you post "rings" and not FMVPs
#caught
try again, updated with factual info:
Magic- 9 finals, 3 MVPs, 3 FMVP, 12 seasons
Bird- 5 finals, 2 FMVP, 3 MVPs, 7 seasons
Duncan- 4 finals, 3 FMVP, 2 MVPs, 10 seasons
Shaq - 4 finals, 3 FMVP 1 MVP, 12 seasons
First, I said comparable. Second, not those players fault it takes Lebron several times more finals appearances, or seasons played to achieve similar rings counts/MVPs/ FMVPs.
Back on suicide watch you go...
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 12:14 PM
So just to square things up after Phoenix's awful history lesson post...
So, no one has more FMVPs or MVPs or Finals appearances by 31? Thanks for the update :roll: :roll:
So no-one has needed more finals appearances by 31 just to end up with the same ring count? How unfortunate :cry:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 12:15 PM
Ok. So if Lebron somehow wins a title this year( possible if Golden state, about 4-5 other Western squads and the same amount of eastern ones all get sucked into a vortex), then it shouldn't count towards his legacy because he was past the arbitrary age you consider those accolades to count.
Of course, the only reason you're coming up with such an asinine concept is a thinly veiled attempt to trivialize the fact that MJ won the same number of titles in 3 years( 96-98), from 33 to 35, that it's taken Lebron 16 years to win. Does that thought make you want to deepthroat a shotgun?:(
Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better and accomplished more than Jordan at his best :lol
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 12:16 PM
None of them better than LeBron
7 finals ,4 MVPs ,3 alpha rings,13 seasons
Including taking down 73 win teams and multiple 30 PER seasons :bowdown:
So you agree Lebron needs a lot more seasons to get the same number of rings and FMVPs. Thanks for wrapping that up for us in a single post. :applause:
superduper
02-14-2019, 12:16 PM
Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better than Jordan at his best :lol
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
In this comparison Bran has 4 more seasons than Jordan yet they have the same chips and FMVPs :roll: :roll:
Phoenix
02-14-2019, 12:17 PM
Sorry but we are discussing what they did in their PRIME this picture must sting for you Jordan fanboys knowing that LeBron at his best was better and accomplished more than Jordan at his best :lol
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
Ah, so Lebron getting a triple double against the Warriors in 2017 shouldn't be part of any discussions going forward about their respective greatness, since he was 32 going 33. Thanks, got that cleared up now.
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:18 PM
Half the finals appearances, getting destroyed before the finals every year, less MVPs, much less impressive teams beaten is more dominant? :yaohappy:
MJ won the same rings in 4 less seasons and all his opponents > 11' Mavs or 09' magic
Also, you left off scoring titles, dpoy, and steals titles.. 7 scoring titles for mj and dpoy, to 1 and zero for lefraud
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:21 PM
So you agree Lebron needs a lot more seasons to get the same number of rings and FMVPs. Thanks for wrapping that up for us in a single post. :applause:
Crushing manny
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:23 PM
:facepalm
3ball
02-14-2019, 12:23 PM
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THRU 31 YEARS OLD.. (playoff stats are linked to source data)
PLAYOFFS PER GAME
Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game
):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
Lebron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
PLAYOFFS PER 100 POSSESSIONS
Jordan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_poss
):I 43.9 pts..N 8.5 reb.. 8.4 ast.. 4.2 tov.. 2.9 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
Lebron (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 36.4 pts.. 11.5 reb.. 8.8 ast.. 4.6 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
FINALS PER GAME:
Jordan Finals:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.7 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
Lebron Finals:. 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan's first 3 rings required 25-33% more scoring with better efficiency than Lebron's 3 rings, while still getting equal or greater assists... :eek:
Manny98
02-14-2019, 01:40 PM
Imagine only getting to the finals 3 times by the age of 31 :roll: :roll:
The Iron Fist
02-14-2019, 01:45 PM
Imagine only getting to the finals 3 times by the age of 31 :roll: :roll:
Imagine losing in the finals 6 times?
Thats what this boils down to. Nobody loses 6 times better than lebron.
FKAri
02-14-2019, 01:48 PM
Mozart
Einstein
Alexander
Michelangelo
superduper
02-14-2019, 01:50 PM
Mozart
Einstein
Alexander
Michelangelo
Who has the most boxscore $tats? That's how us LeTards form calculated analysis on players. Don't forget media opinions as well!
Manny98
02-14-2019, 02:41 PM
Imagine losing in the finals 6 times?
Thats what this boils down to. Nobody loses 6 times better than lebron.
Nobody has a cleaner looking resume than this at 31 that is a fact
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
LAmbruh
02-14-2019, 02:44 PM
Manny got em wrapped around his fingers :oldlol:
3ball
02-14-2019, 03:36 PM
Imagine only getting to the finals 3 times by the age of 31 :roll: :roll:
He played 4 less seasons
3 rings in 9 seasons > 3 in 13
Imagine only winning 3 rings in 13 seasons... :facepalm.. MJ got 6 in 13
And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 04:29 PM
So just to square things up after Phoenix's awful history lesson post...
So, no one has more FMVPs or MVPs or Finals appearances by 31? Thanks for the update :roll: :roll:
Shit :roll:
And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 04:30 PM
Imagine only getting to the finals 3 times by the age of 31 :roll: :roll:
Imagine three 1st round sweeps (Mikey) vs three Finals appearqnces :roll:
And1AllDay
02-14-2019, 04:31 PM
Imagine losing in the finals 6 times?
Thats what this boils down to. Nobody loses 6 times better than lebron.
Shoulda been a first round sweep legacy saver like Mikey eh? :oldlol: :oldlol:
E_Stamkos
02-14-2019, 07:29 PM
When you're an insecure little bitch and you can sense your hero is going to disappoint you yet again... You constantly look for new narratives that suit your absurd agenda.
There's no quantifying how big of a loser this kid is.
Gileraracer
02-15-2019, 06:36 AM
Imagine three 1st round sweeps (Mikey) vs three Finals appearqnces :roll:
Imagine missing the POs twice :lol
SpaceJam
02-15-2019, 06:43 AM
Magic also has more FMVPs :confusedshrug:
They both have 3 you moron
It's like every Gileraracer ever types on this forum is pure retardation
:roll: :roll: :roll:
SpaceJam
02-15-2019, 06:44 AM
Imagine missing the POs twice :lol
Like MJ?
Jesus my post above holds even more weight now
Gileraracer
02-15-2019, 06:48 AM
It's like every Gileraracer ever types on this forum is pure retardation
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh my lapdog arrived to defend Simon :lol
a little late :no:
Gileraracer
02-15-2019, 06:50 AM
They both have 3 you moron
Typical Lebron stan argument "Lebron has more alpha rings because they both have 3 FMVPs"
Golden. IQ of a goldfish :applause:
SpaceJam
02-15-2019, 06:52 AM
Oh my lapdog arrived to defend Simon :lol
a little late :no:
Me and Simon the best duo seen since Baron Davis and Bron in Cleveland boss :roll: :roll:
Gileraracer
02-15-2019, 06:53 AM
Me and Simon the best duo seen since Baron Davis and Bron in Cleveland boss :roll: :roll:
wuff wuff
Sit down!
knicksman
02-15-2019, 08:35 AM
not even better than kobe. -Scottie pippen:yaohappy:
sportjames23
02-15-2019, 08:43 AM
OP getting his shit pushed in. In his own thread, no less. :lol
72-10
02-16-2019, 05:22 AM
Mozart Newton Beethoven Da Vinci Michelangelo, and well you know he doesn't have a hope of getting higher, and I can't act like I know nothing aboutithowcouldne1notthinkit'sMichael'sprime
bullettooth
02-16-2019, 03:07 PM
Bronsexuals wish resumes could only be used as evidence until the age of 31.
Manny98
02-16-2019, 03:17 PM
Who has won more championships + MVPs + finals appearances in their PRIME than LeBron i'll wait
Guess no one has a answer :(
TheCorporation
02-16-2019, 06:44 PM
Me and Simon the best duo seen since Baron Davis and Bron in Cleveland boss :roll: :roll:
:lol :lol :lol
TheCorporation
02-16-2019, 06:46 PM
Guess no one has a answer :(
The best part is Phoenix the dumbass was the one who brought it to light when he tried to discredit LeBron by literally listing every player that was "close" and yet none had more FMVP or MVPs :lol
LAmbruh
02-18-2019, 04:00 AM
It's like every Gileraracer ever types on this forum is pure retardation
:roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll:
Phoenix
02-18-2019, 07:43 AM
The best part is Phoenix the dumbass was the one who brought it to light when he tried to discredit LeBron by literally listing every player that was "close" and yet none had more FMVP or MVPs :lol
No you retarded inbred waste of conception, the best part is you thinking that Lebron taking 13 years to do basically the same amount of shit others did in less years somehow nudges him past the herd. Duncan and Magic had more rings and the same amount of FMVPs which at worst cancels out extra MVP awards, MJ had one less MVP but the same number of rings/FMVPs AND DPOY award AND 6 more scoring titles, while being markedly more dominant in his first 3peat finals runs. We were all witnesses to Bron getting outscored by Jason Terry in the finals and the teamhopping. :confusedshrug:
And1AllDay
02-18-2019, 12:29 PM
No you retarded inbred waste of conception, the best part is you thinking that Lebron taking 13 years to do basically the same amount of shit others did in less years somehow nudges him past the herd. Duncan and Magic had more rings and the same amount of FMVPs which at worst cancels out extra MVP awards, MJ had one less MVP but the same number of rings/FMVPs AND DPOY award AND 6 more scoring titles, while being markedly more dominant in his first 3peat finals runs. We were all witnesses to Bron getting outscored by Jason Terry in the finals and the teamhopping. :confusedshrug:
Yeah so then like he said no one got more MVPs and FMVPs in their prime before 31 cool story bro :oldlol: :oldlol:
Thanks for showing us the info facts and proving Mannys post was true af
Phoenix
02-18-2019, 12:43 PM
Yeah so then like he said no one got more MVPs and FMVPs in their prime before 31 cool story bro :oldlol: :oldlol:
Thanks for showing us the info facts and proving Mannys post was true af
Yeah so then like I said no-one other than Bird has less FMVPs, 3 have the same ring count( Jordan, Shaq and Bird), two have more rings( Duncan and Magic), and none needed team-hopping or 13 years to do it. Glad I cleared that up for ya that Lebron didn't accomplish the most rings, or FMVPs, only the most colluding. Sadly no-one else achieved that. :cry:
3ball
02-18-2019, 01:19 PM
Yeah so then like he said no one got more MVPs and FMVPs in their prime before 31 cool story bro :oldlol: :oldlol:
No one had more than mj thru 30.. :confusedshrug:
And no one had more fmvp + mvp ever than mj
So what's ur point?
And1AllDay
02-18-2019, 05:14 PM
No one had more than mj thru 30.. :confusedshrug:
And no one had more fmvp + mvp ever than mj
So what's ur point?
Come on 3baLLLLLLLLL
Read plz
Does anyone have a better resume at 31 than LeBron
Manny98
09-12-2019, 06:14 PM
Anyone?
FKAri
09-12-2019, 06:28 PM
Newton and Napoleon have got to be in the top 10 but Lebron's #1.
3ball
09-12-2019, 06:37 PM
Anyone?
MJ had 3 rings in 9 years > 3 in 12 for LeBron
while doing more (see below)..
without team-hopping (so elevating a lottery team to 3-peat dynasty)
and therefore being considered goat by 31, not borderline top 5 or 10 like 31-year Lebron
Anyone?
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 30% more on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
Overdrive
09-12-2019, 06:40 PM
Anyone?
Aren't you the guy who repeatly asked to compare MJ's to Lebron's season 14, 15, 16 and 17 stats?
Now it's age? What were Lebron's accomplishments after season 9?
LeCramp
09-12-2019, 06:45 PM
Anyone?
Are you ok bro?
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: In your head
Posts: 9,610
Do you do anything in life? Seriously I feel really bad for you, I'm not talking shit, ok? Im just being honest, think about your choices in life bro, like seriously wtf? :biggums:
27 or so posts a day? WTF
Manny98
09-12-2019, 06:52 PM
Are you ok bro?
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: In your head
Posts: 9,610
Do you do anything in life? Seriously I feel really bad for you, I'm not talking shit, ok? Im just being honest, think about your choices in life bro, like seriously wtf? :biggums:
27 or so posts a day? WTF
27 posts a day?
df are you talking about learn to count before questioning me retard
Manny98
09-12-2019, 06:58 PM
MJ had 3 rings in 9 years > 3 in 12 for LeBron
while doing more (see below)..
without team-hopping (so elevating a lottery team to 3-peat dynasty)
and therefore being considered goat by 31, not borderline top 5 or 10 like 31-year Lebron
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 30% more on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
Nope LeBron achieved far more in his prime years than MJ did therefore LeBron has the GOAT prime
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
MJ got most of his rings outside of his prime but when comparing who's the best player we look at what they did in the midst of their primes (25-31) and LeBron was better :applause:
3ball
09-12-2019, 06:59 PM
27 posts a day?
df are you talking about learn to count before questioning me retard
Hey Fanny98, how do you feel about Lebron needing 8 less ppg on worse efficiency, and equal assists to get his 3 rings compared to the goat's 3 rings?
LAmbruh
09-12-2019, 06:59 PM
Manny smacking these kids around per usual :lol
TheMan
09-12-2019, 09:26 PM
5 Championships
3 MVPs
12 seasons
8 Finals
:eek: :eek: :eek:
:bowdown: :bowdown:
Even with Tranny98 very arbitrary 31 years old cut off point, LeBron gets wrecked by Magic :oldlol:
Bronbron23
09-12-2019, 10:50 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/wjm1mpBB/RHFTMvu.jpg
Your prime is from 25-31 so based on that 7 year stretch LeBron has the GOAT prime :bowdown:
What you don't mention is how mj retired during the peak of his prime. He basically missed 2 years where he easily gets one more MVP and another fmvp.
GimmeThat
09-12-2019, 11:15 PM
so far, 4 inductees into the HOF from Jordan's class, and there seems to be 4 locked for Lebron's class
interesting to note, of Jordan's class, only Stockton was a Sr. the year the group declared for the draft, and there have been more all stars in Lebron's draft class.
3ball
09-13-2019, 01:31 AM
Stats Thru 31 Years Old:
JORDAN. REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:per_game):. 32.3 ppg.. 6.3 rpg.. 5.9 apg.. 2.7 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.9 ts.. 121 ortg.. 29.8 PER..
LEBRONf REG SEAS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 27.2 ppg.. 7.2 rpg.. 6.9 apg.. 1.7 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 116 ortg.. 27.7 PER.
JORDAN. PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1985-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER
LEBRONf PLAYOFFS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html):. 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER
JORDAN FINALS:. 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg
LEBRON FINALS:. 27.0 ppg.f 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg
Jordan scores 30% more on far better efficiency, while averaging equal or greater assists.. It's not even close.
I just noticed that MJ has a full 2-point edge in PER through their first 3 rings each.... :facepalm
So a 6-point scoring edge, 2-point edge in efficiency rating, and equal assists.... :facepalm:
Lebron is nowhere near MJ and MJ had to do way more to win 3 rings than Lebron - a full 2 more points in efficiency rating!!!.. :eek:
Manny98
09-13-2019, 06:53 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek:
:bowdown: :bowdown:
Even with Tranny98 very arbitrary 31 years old cut off point, LeBron gets wrecked by Magic :oldlol:
He won less MVPs and his stats were worse so try again
ImKobe
09-13-2019, 07:22 AM
He won less MVPs and his stats were worse so try again
Stats were worse?
let's compare the title runs (not that they played in the same era but let's entertain this idiot)
to age 31
RS:
Magic - 20/7/11 52%FG, ~61%TS
Lebron - 27/7/7 50%FG, ~58%TS
7 more points per game for Lebron, 4.4 more assists per game for Magic
Playoffs:
Magic - 20/8/13 51%FG, ~60%TS
Lebron - 28/9/7 48%FG, ~57%TS
8 more points for Lebron, 6 more assists for Magic
Finals record: Magic 5/9, Lebron 3/7
More Finals appearances and titles for Magic
Now let's compare title runs
Magic
1980 - 18/11/9/3 60%TS, Finals 22/11/9/3 57%FG
1982 - 17/11/9/3 61%TS, Finals 16/11/9/3 53%FG
1985 - 18/7/15/2 60%TS, Finals 18/7/14/2 49%FG
1987 - 22/8/12/2 61%TS, Finals 26/8/13/2 54%FG
1988 - 20/5/13/1 60%TS, Finals 21/6/13/2 55%FG
Lebron
2012 - 30/10/6/2 58%TS, Finals 29/10/7/2 48%FG
2013 - 26/8/7/2 59%TS, Finals 25/11/7/2 45%FG
2016 - 26/10/8/2 59%TS, Finals 30/11/9/3 49%FG
Do you take Lebron's few more points on lower efficiency, or do you go with Magic's superior playmaking and more efficient scoring? You say Lebron's stats were better but then I look and see that Magic has the better RS and Playoff numbers. Magic's MVP competition was peak Bird and athletic prime MJ, Lebron's MVP competition was an older Kobe for only a couple years (08-10) and then Derrick Rose, KD and Curry? :lol
5 rings 3 MVPs, 3 FMVPs, 5/9 in the Finals and superior stats vs 3 rings, 3 FMVPs, 3/7 in the Finals with inferior numbers.
And this is with Magic playing in a tougher defensive era and going up against DR.J, Bird, Zeke and Jordan in the Finals vs. Lebron facing the baby Thunder, ancient Spurs and an injured Warriors squad.
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