View Full Version : Exposing overrated old school 90s defense...Sorry MJ
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 09:02 PM
The video results may be shocking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA
And there are plenty more...
Akrazotile
02-17-2019, 09:08 PM
Oh my goodness...
:roll: :roll: :roll:
jstern
02-17-2019, 09:09 PM
The level of stupidity is strong with that guy.
SamuraiSWISH
02-17-2019, 09:12 PM
Or he’s just making them look stupid
72-10
02-17-2019, 09:42 PM
This is stupid. Most of these clips involve him baiting and shaking his defender/multiple defenders, at which he was the best in history.:no:
Akrazotile
02-17-2019, 09:45 PM
This is stupid. Most of these clips involve him baiting and shaking his defender/multiple defenders, at which he was the best in history.:no:
Defenders are biting on the simplest fakes and then not even trying to recover. Meanwhile the “help” behind them are basically 6’10 matadors waving red capes.
Also where is all the vicious handchecking?
72-10
02-17-2019, 09:52 PM
Now you know he hand-picked some of the worst examples of defense there are. MJ took 24 thousand shots.
The play at :41 is hard.
Half of these are plays of him switching the ball in his hands in mid-air/shooting the ball with one hand/fadeaways.
andgar923
02-17-2019, 09:55 PM
The video results may be shocking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA
And there are plenty more...
Umm.. I think he might be trolling MJ 'haters'.
There's no way he can be that dumb.
As others mentioned, MJ is splitting doubles, beating people with quick moves, spinning around people in traffic, etc. etc.
He makes it look easy because he was that good. But his examples are a joke and obvious to anyone that knows anything about basketball that he's either trolling MJ haters or extremely idiotic.
In one clip he points to MJ in the post not being doubled, yet he's literally being doubled with another defender coming over.
Another example MJ is beating a double team and he switches hands mid air to avoid a block a 7 footer, yet he laughs and says "what the **** was that LOLLLL".
He says "this defence is pathetic" even tho he jumped in the air in traffic, switched from a shot to a pass that led to a layup around a defender IN MID AIR.
Time and time again, another idiotic observation.. or is he trolling Bron fans?
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 09:56 PM
This guy has another video where he shows MJ taking taking like 10 uncontested jumpers versus the "Bad Boy" Pistons. They literally weren't even putting a hand up. In the playoffs.
:no:
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 09:57 PM
[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Or he
knicksman
02-17-2019, 09:58 PM
OP just trolls coz he knows hes just a statnerd. He doesnt have the knowledge and IQ to go toe to toe with the respected posters here.
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 09:59 PM
OP just trolls coz he knows hes just a statnerd. He doesnt have the knowledge and IQ to go toe to toe with the respected posters here.
Watch the video
It's pretty bad for you and 90s fans
Sorry in advance
:confusedshrug:
72-10
02-17-2019, 09:59 PM
the entire 89 playoff series between the Bulls and Pistons is commercially available...
SomeBlackDude
02-17-2019, 10:23 PM
meanwhile, legoat's lakers are giving up 127.8 points per game defensively in their last 5.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif
SamuraiSWISH
02-17-2019, 10:24 PM
meanwhile, legoat's lakers are giving up 127.8 points per game defensively in their last 5.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif
:oldlol:
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 10:25 PM
meanwhile, legoat's lakers are giving up 127.8 points per game defensively in their last 5.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif
Oh wow in the playoffs!?
superduper
02-17-2019, 10:29 PM
Bran stans OOZE insecurity :roll:
TheCorporation
02-17-2019, 10:32 PM
Bran stans OOZE insecurity :roll:
Facts can be devastating :(
SomeBlackDude
02-17-2019, 10:33 PM
:oldlol:
in those 5 games..
they gave up 136 to the dipo-less pacers.
128 to the celtics.
143 to the process.
all in regulation.
but please, op... tell us more about that superior modern advanced defense that can give up 639 points in 5 games while no one bats an eye because every team is doing the same thing.
https://i.imgflip.com/4hnf4.jpg
3ball
02-17-2019, 10:43 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gsfTtdbuYF4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q1QJwQZHNc4
no comparison
SamuraiSWISH
02-17-2019, 10:49 PM
in those 5 games..
they gave up 136 to the dipo-less pacers.
128 to the celtics.
143 to the process.
all in regulation.
but please, op... tell us more about that superior modern advanced defense that can give up 639 points in 5 games while no one bats an eye because every team is doing the same thing.
https://i.imgflip.com/4hnf4.jpg
:oldlol:
No defense
No perimeter physicality
No rim protection
Pace and Space galore
SomeBlackDude
02-17-2019, 10:59 PM
:oldlol:
No defense
No perimeter physicality
No rim protection
Pace and Space galore
how would the goat figure out how to score on this advanced, MSc level d that mvps see today:
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2018/7rkDFz.gif
jordan would be like:
https://media.giphy.com/media/ohdY5OaQmUmVW/giphy.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/TwhwBM17/47a4258f6d29687a09d4bb8408a04bf1-person-clipart-download-confuse.jpg
SamuraiSWISH
02-17-2019, 11:22 PM
how would the goat figure out how to score on this advanced, MSc level d that mvps see today:
https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2018/7rkDFz.gif
jordan would be like:
https://media.giphy.com/media/ohdY5OaQmUmVW/giphy.gif
https://i.postimg.cc/TwhwBM17/47a4258f6d29687a09d4bb8408a04bf1-person-clipart-download-confuse.jpg
:oldlol:
Bronbron23
02-18-2019, 12:28 AM
Dude who made the video is clueless. In most of these plays mj is using his elite first step to beat or shake the defender. Mj's first step makes brons look like Shaq.
TheCorporation
02-18-2019, 02:48 AM
Okay let's not get carried away, fellas...
https://i.postimg.cc/y88WwsPp/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/YCVsFVFY/Mike_defense.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/KjZBDG0p/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/bvsgSSKJ/giphy.gif
andgar923
02-18-2019, 07:51 AM
The video results may be shocking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA
And there are plenty more...
SpaceJam
02-18-2019, 08:15 AM
I can't stand to watch the ABSOLUTE PHYSICALITY
I mean MJ got knocked on his ass every play there, am I watching the NBA or the WWE?!
r0drig0lac
02-18-2019, 08:34 AM
:facepalm
Gileraracer
02-18-2019, 09:02 AM
Looks like Lebrons defense in the last 3 finals to me :confusedshrug:
But Lebron was even worse probably
Gileraracer
02-18-2019, 09:06 AM
Meanwhile the advanced 2010+ defense:
http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/0/4/9/1550495077816066.gif
http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/0/4/9/15504951632137614.gif
sdot_thadon
02-18-2019, 11:04 AM
Shit, he's right. 90s defense is overrated. The same way you will say he cherry picked the worst examples.....isn't that what you boneheads do on a daily basis here on ish? And it goes both ways you Mj stans (and let's not kid ourselves you were the 1st ones to run in here) cherry pick the best clips that you want to represent 90s defense. The truth is somewhere in the middle of both sides. Todays best defense isn't that bad of you only show the best teams playing it and the 90s defense isn't so great if you show the bad teams play defense either.
One question on my way out: so basically the basis for 90s defense being "better" is simply physicality? because being able to lay unskilled hits on guys and literally push them into help isn't more difficult than not being able to touch your man and having to use you feet only. So if we're gonna say on one end this era is soft and you cant guard anyone then you also gotta acknowledge that the good defenders this era have to work harder than they did in the 90s. Im also not out to prove the 90s are better or worse than now, just pointing out a major inconsistency in your debates.
sportjames23
02-18-2019, 01:40 PM
meanwhile, legoat's lakers are giving up 127.8 points per game defensively in their last 5.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif
Ether
Bron stans, when will you learn? You come at the REAL king, you best not miss.
RealSkipBayless
12-26-2019, 04:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zONvMKkIpwA
:roll: :roll: :roll:
SpaceJam2
12-26-2019, 07:05 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:
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