What did Kobe shoot outside 5 feet in the 2000, 2004, 2008, 2010 Finals?

[Dray n Klay]

Anyone have the percentages?

[Manny98]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft

[Gus Hemmingway]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft

damn, and his best attribute is scoring too


Shooting Guard 35percentBe :(


Yikes

[Celtics 1825]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft
Lmao really?? :roll: :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft


so you're telling me kobe with guys draped all over him can still out shoot peak lebron left wide open



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[scuzzy]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft
ouch

[kennethgriffen]

ouch


its not even accurate. just fact checked and kobe made 6* in game 1


what else did manny make up on that list if he can't even get the FIRST GAME right

:roll:

[72-10]

or you could wait for 3ball to post the actual stats

[kennethgriffen]

game 1



JESUS H CHRIST I FOUND ANOTHER TOO!


6 in game 1


:roll:



MANNY = FRAUD

7:38.0 6-12 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 6 ft

7:05.0 31-34 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 19 ft

11:10.0 43-53 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 23 ft

10:35.0 45-55 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 7 ft

7:07.0 50-61 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 6 ft (assist by P. Gasol)

0:03.6 89-102 +3 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 28 ft

[LAmbruh]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft
typical Finals for 12be :lol

[Dray n Klay]

Kenneth getting destroyed

[kennethgriffen]

Kenneth getting destroyed



he also missed 2 in game 3


:roll:

he didn't make 7.. he made 9


5:13.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 22 ft (assist by L. Walton) +2 12-12

3:06.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 19 ft (assist by P. Gasol) +2 43-31

1:26.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 7 ft +2 48-37

0:52.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 21 ft +2 50-39

8:33.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 18 ft +2 56-47

4:29.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 9 ft (assist by P. Gasol) +2 60-51

3:39.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 9 ft +2 62-53

1:27.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 25 ft +3 65-57

1:41.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 15 ft +2 84-80




LOL@bran B*tches being forced to lie/make up shit ... and STILL losing


even with manny's fake numbers kobe came out ontop



:roll:

[kennethgriffen]

HOLY F*CK ... the hits just keep on coming


manny says kobe made 8 in game 4... he actually made 10



:roll: :roll: :roll:


11:38.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 14 ft +2 2-0

6:27.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 9 ft +2 12-11

4:45.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 25 ft (assist by L. Odom) +3 32-29

4:12.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 24 ft +3 35-31

3:42.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 20 ft (assist by M. World Peace) +2 37-33

4:43.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 24 ft (assist by P. Gasol) +3 56-54

1:51.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 22 ft +3 59-5

1:25.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 25 ft (assist by P. Gasol) +3 62-58

1:56.0 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 10 ft +2 81-87

0:11.0 K. Bryant makes 3-pt jump shot from 26 ft (assist by S. Vujacic) +3 89-94





:roll:

[Mr. Jabbar]

Im neutral on this subject but given the evidence at hand: kobe > lebron

[Mr.GOAT2408]

Kenneth, stop with the ownage

OP has a mother :lebroncry:

[FKAri]

I'm looking at the stats right now and they say, and I quote, "worse than Lebron". I guess that settles it.

[34-24 Footwork]

For Kobe to shoot 47% for his career while having EVERYTHING contested is truly phenomenal.

What would his % be like if people didn't respect his jumper??

Players never went underneath every single screen and gave him free jumpers.

[kennethgriffen]

Kenneth, stop with the ownage

OP has a mother :lebroncry:


he couldn't even get game 7 right


kobe made 5 ... not 4


:roll:


3:36.0 15-13 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 6 ft (assist by P. Gasol)

11:37.0 23-16 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 6 ft

2:34.0 33-31 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 15 ft

7:37.0 49-39 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 12 ft (assist by L. Odom)

5:22.0 64-68 +2 K. Bryant makes 2-pt jump shot from 17 ft

:roll:

[34-24 Footwork]

This is why Greg Pop was savage af.

Dude claimed he respected LeBron James, but put the fattest version of Boris Diaw on him for an entire series and THEN played LeBron like he was Ben Simmons. Lol.

Never seen nothing like that in my life.

[kennethgriffen]

I'm looking at the stats right now and they say, and I quote, "worse than Lebron". I guess that settles it.



adding the 7 manny purposefully missed makes it 50 out of 124 ( 40.3% )



much better than brans 32% beyond 5 feet from 2013


:roll:

[Dray n Klay]

adding the 7 manny purposefully missed makes it 50 out of 124 ( 40.3% )



much better than brans 32% beyond 5 feet from 2013


:roll:

Hows your daughter

[72-10]

Waste of space thread for now until the actual stats come to light. I'm guessing they're going to look pretty bad for 2000 and 2004.

[kennethgriffen]

Hows your daughter

hows your deflection

:roll:


i'm gonna bump this shit every time you f@ggots speak from now on


this is a f*cking massacre

[34-24 Footwork]

Waste of space thread for now until the actual stats come to light. I'm guessing they're going to look pretty bad for 2000 and 2004.

Use your brain instead.

If the guy who was played TIGHTLY on the perimeter shoots a % even remotely close to the player whose givem free shots from the perimeter, thats not good...

[kennethgriffen]

Use your brain instead.

If the guy who was played TIGHTLY on the perimeter shoots a % even remotely close to the player whose givem free shots from the perimeter, thats not good...


especially when the player guarded tightly shoots 8% higher

:lol

[72-10]

Use your brain instead.

If the guy who was played TIGHTLY on the perimeter shoots a % even remotely close to the player whose givem free shots from the perimeter, thats not good...

Kobe wasn't played that tightly. He got a lot of open looks thanks to doubles and triples on Shaq.

[Dray n Klay]

especially when the player guarded tightly shoots 8% higher

:lol

Post the pecentages in 2000, 2004, 2008 :roll: :roll:

LOL @ cherrypicking one out of the 4 years as some sort of 'win' :lol

[kennethgriffen]

Post the pecentages in 2000, 2004, 2008 :roll: :roll:

LOL @ cherrypicking one out of the 4 years as some sort of 'win' :lol


na i want manny to do it first so you can get your hopes up

:lol


and who cares about 2004/2008... do you wanna void his rings from those 2 years?


ok go ahead lol


f*cking idiot

[TheCorporation]

2010 finals

Game 1 4/11

Game 2 6/17

Game 3 7/23

Game 4 8/18

Game 5 11/24

Game 6 3/10

Game 7 4/21

Overall 43/124 35% outside of 5ft

Jesus. Complete trash

[TheCorporation]

Well since he never shot above .469 I know it has to be less than that :lol

[kennethgriffen]

Jesus. Complete trash


try reading the entire thread

https://i.imgur.com/M2njXmE.jpg

[TheCorporation]

try reading the entire thread

:lol

Kenny, I know you love Kobe but SERIOUSLY how TF does he not have a season above .469 in TWENTY YEARS? Even post season I think he literally has one time

wtf is that like 1/35 :lol

[kennethgriffen]

Kenny, I know you love Kobe but SERIOUSLY how TF does he not have a season above .469 in TWENTY YEARS? Even post season I think he literally has one time

wtf is that like 1/35 :lol


so you looked over the thread. saw kobe actually shot WAY better beyond 5 feet in 2010 than lebron did in 2013 ... and now you wanna shift the goal posts to regular season fg%


:lol

[Dray n Klay]

try reading the entire thread

https://i.imgur.com/M2njXmE.jpg

Post his 2000, 2004, 2008 numbers


We know you have nothing better to do now anyway :lol

[TheCorporation]

so you looked over the thread. saw kobe actually shot WAY better beyond 5 feet in 2010 than lebron did in 2013 ... and now you wanna shift the goal posts to regular season fg%


:lol

Kenny, please focus. SERIOUSLY how TF does he not have a season above .469 in TWENTY YEARS? Even post season I think he literally has one time

wtf is that like 1/35

[kennethgriffen]

Post his 2000, 2004, 2008 numbers


We know you have nothing better to do now anyway :lol



i already said you can have 04 and 08... kobe didn't win so you can't take anything away


and 2000 was an injured series. he made up for it with the game 4 and game 7 the series prior

he basically saved the title for shaq twice



and you have infinitely more time to waste simon. i actually have to maintain my finances/living arangements/meal preparations


you just have to worry about shitting in a bucket


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8bs_THKiY

[Mr. Jabbar]

damn... kenneth destroying bran stans one a at a time! :eek: :bowdown:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/cf8c7f56da67648a5feae65940f72e36/tenor.gif

[kennethgriffen]

Kenny, please focus. SERIOUSLY how TF does he not have a season above .469 in TWENTY YEARS? Even post season I think he literally has one time

wtf is that like 1/35


what shooting guard that shot a large amount of 3's and contested shots had a fg% that was super high


even ray allen ( another high volume outside shooter ) who was considered a better pure shooter shot 45% fg's

[TheCorporation]

what shooting guard that shot a large amount of 3's and contested shots had a fg% that was super high


even ray allen ( another high volume outside shooter ) who was considered a better pure shooter shot 45% fg's

Jordan for starters...Duh

Seasons above .469

Ray Allen: 4
Kobe: 0

And Ray took way more 3's..

[Dray n Klay]

and you have infinitely more time to waste simon. i actually have to maintain my finances/living arangements/meal preparations





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8bs_THKiY


How hard is it to walk down the street and ask grandpa for more dough? :roll:

[kennethgriffen]

Jordan for starters...Duh

Seasons above .469

Ray Allen: 4
Kobe: 0

And Ray took way more 3's..



jordan didn't shoot a "large amount of 3's and contested shots" though


so no


if he did then his point per shot would be way higher than kobes... but they're nearly identical. exactly the same up until his achilles rupture



and ray shot over .469 in 2001 as a low volume 2nd option
and 2009/10/11 as an EXTREMELY low volume 2nd option



kobe was a HIGH VOLUME 2nd option and an EXTREMELY HIGH volume 1st option



learn context and get back to me


and the point still remains that ray allen shot 45% career even with all those beneficial circumstances

[TheCorporation]

jordan didn't shoot a "large amount of 3's and contested shots" though


so no


if he did then his point per shot would be way higher than kobes... but they're nearly identical. exactly the same up until his achilles rupture



and ray shot over .469 in 2001 as a low volume 2nd option
and 2009/10/11 as an EXTREMELY low volume 2nd option



kobe was a HIGH VOLUME 2nd option and an EXTREMELY HIGH volume 1st option



learn context and get back to me


and the point still remains that ray allen shot 45% career even with all those beneficial circumstances

Got it..

So,

MJ = 8
Ray = 4
Kobe = 0

Anything else, or? :(

[kennethgriffen]

How hard is it to walk down the street and ask grandpa for more dough? :roll:


managing bill payments, credit cards, insurance payments, car maintenance, shovelling every day, chipping ice, buying groceries, prepping meals, cleaning, laundry


all these things take time you know... i know your mommy and daddy do all of that for you and possibly even have to wipe you since you can't bend over while strapped to your motorized wheelchair. but you should shadow one of them some day and watch all that goes into taking care of responsibilities as an adult


its not just about clocking in and out at the box/glue/canned tuna factory

[kennethgriffen]

Got it..

So,

MJ = 8
Ray = 4
Kobe = 0

Anything else, or? :(



so you actually think jordan was a high volume 3 point shooter and ray allens 2nd option shots in the 4 rare seasons he shot over 46.9% were just as difficult as kobes 1st option role dropping 30

:oldlol:


you'll never beat me. just give up

[kennethgriffen]

here's a perfect example of what i'm talking about


damian lillard is one of the best scorers/distance shooters/tough shot makers/volume scorers


he never shot over .450%

he shoots 37% threes for his career and has a 1.31 career point per shot ( also EXACTLY IDENTICAL to jordans )




the more you shoot contested shots outside the lower your fg% gets ... but its made up for by the increased output

[Dray n Klay]

here's a perfect example of what i'm talking about


damian lillard is one of the best scorers/distance shooters/tough shot makers/volume scorers


he never shot over .450%

he shoots 37% threes for his career and has a 1.31 career point per shot ( also EXACTLY IDENTICAL to jordans )




the more you shoot contested shots outside the lower your fg% gets ... but its made up for by the increased output

LEBRON SHOT MORE 3's THAN KOBE AND STILL HAS A HIGHER PPS
:roll:

[kennethgriffen]

LEBRON SHOT MORE 3's THAN KOBE AND STILL HAS A HIGHER PPS
:roll:

1. shooting more 3's equals a higher pps dumby


and

2.
he shoots his 3's wide open and gets stiff arm/wipe off layups/free throws for the rest of his points


while kobe was part of the mid range generation back when basketball actually had defense and you couldn't just walk to the basket with ease every time

[3ball]

.
5 feet or further:



Lebron 07' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):.... 8/54 = 14.8%
Lebron 08' ecsf (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=2):... 26/111 = 23.4%
Lebron 10' ecsf (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=2):..... 22/70 = 31.4%

Lebron 11' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):.. 20/58 = 34.4%
Lebron 13' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):.. 34/98 = 34.7%

Lebron 15' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/2544/shooting/?Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):. 39/137 =28.5%


He's at 38% and 33% in the 17' and 18' Finals, so I think he's shoots poorly all the time outside of 5 feet.


MJ:


Jordan 97' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):. 51/125 = 40.8%
Jordan 98' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):. 41/123= 33.3%


MJ's is better obviously and if we looked at just jumpers MJ would beat him worse...
.

[ImKobe]

What's with this nit-picking?

2001 Playoffs
3-10 47%
10-16 44.8%
16-3PT 38.8%
3PT 32.4%

2002 Playoffs
3-10 43.4%
10-16 41.3%
16-3PT 35.3%
3PT 37.9%

2009 Playoffs
3-10 40.7%
10-16 45.1%
16-3PT 46.4%
3PT 34.9%

2010 Playoffs
3-10 52.1%
10-16 47.5%
16-3PT 43.5%
3PT 37.4%

Here's Lebron's for 2012 Playoffs

3-10 43.2%
10-16 47.7%
16-3PT 33.3%
3PT 25.9%

2013
3-10 32.7%
10-16 31.1%
16-3PT 43.4%
3PT 37.5%

2016
3-10 34.6%
10-16 28.6%
16-3PT 45.5%
3PT 34%

Looking at their Playoffs career

Lebron
3-10 38.1%
10-16 35.1%
16-3PT 37.8%
3PT 33.2%

Kobe
3-10 46.8%
10-16 44.9%
16-3PT 40%
3PT 33.4%

Kobe's better at shooting from all distances outside the paint, this myth that Lebron is a better shooter is completely out of bounds, Kobe shoots the higher percentage from every spot yet he was facing double teams and Lebron was mostly left open on those shots. You also have to consider that Kobe shot way more mid-range jumpers, yet was far more effective at them.

You can nitpick a game or a series or one random year, but overall numbers say that Kobe's much better at outside shooting in the Playoffs. Kobe's a much better mid-range shooter in the RS as well. Career numbers prove it.

[Gileraracer]

its not even accurate. just fact checked and kobe made 6* in game 1


what else did manny make up on that list if he can't even get the FIRST GAME right

:roll:

Retards gon retard :roll:

[zeerghit]

1. shooting more 3's equals a higher pps dumby


and

2.
he shoots his 3's wide open and gets stiff arm/wipe off layups/free throws for the rest of his points


while kobe was part of the mid range generation back when basketball actually had defense and you couldn't just walk to the basket with ease every time
this is not true..

[ImKobe]

this is not true..

Yes it is

There's actually stats on how close defenders are on Lebron's threes and the data is available since 2013-14 season, Lebron shoots them wide open.

https://stats.nba.com/players/shots-closest-defender/?sort=FGA_FREQUENCY&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612747&CloseDefDistRange=6%2B%20Feet%20-%20Wide%20Open

You can play around with this if you want, but stats here prove that he shoots them when a defender is 4-6+ ft away. Most of the NBA does.

[Manny98]

adding the 7 manny purposefully missed makes it 50 out of 124 ( 40.3% )



much better than brans 32% beyond 5 feet from 2013


:roll:
I didn't include the ones which were dead on 5ft

OP said OUTSIDE 5ft

[Rico2016]

I didn't include the ones which were dead on 5ft

OP said OUTSIDE 5ft

Manny got these boys spinnin

[Manny98]

.



MJ:


Jordan 98' Finals (https://stats.nba.com/player/893/shooting/?Season=1997-98&SeasonType=Playoffs&PORound=4):. 41/123= 33.3%[/indent]


MJ's is better obviously and if we looked at just jumpers MJ would beat him worse...
.
33%? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[3ball]

33%? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Lebron has 3-4 seasons under 30%

Again, mj's 41% and 33% is a better range than lebron's 14-38% range

[3ball]

What's with this nit-picking?

2001 Playoffs
3-10 47%
10-16 44.8%
16-3PT 38.8%
3PT 32.4%

2002 Playoffs
3-10 43.4%
10-16 41.3%
16-3PT 35.3%
3PT 37.9%

2009 Playoffs
3-10 40.7%
10-16 45.1%
16-3PT 46.4%
3PT 34.9%

2010 Playoffs
3-10 52.1%
10-16 47.5%
16-3PT 43.5%
3PT 37.4%

Here's Lebron's for 2012 Playoffs

3-10 43.2%
10-16 47.7%
16-3PT 33.3%
3PT 25.9%

2013
3-10 32.7%
10-16 31.1%
16-3PT 43.4%
3PT 37.5%

2016
3-10 34.6%
10-16 28.6%
16-3PT 45.5%
3PT 34%

Looking at their Playoffs career

Lebron
3-10 38.1%
10-16 35.1%
16-3PT 37.8%
3PT 33.2%

Kobe
3-10 46.8%
10-16 44.9%
16-3PT 40%
3PT 33.4%

Kobe's better at shooting from all distances outside the paint, this myth that Lebron is a better shooter is completely out of bounds, Kobe shoots the higher percentage from every spot yet he was facing double teams and Lebron was mostly left open on those shots. You also have to consider that Kobe shot way more mid-range jumpers, yet was far more effective at them.

You can nitpick a game or a series or one random year, but overall numbers say that Kobe's much better at outside shooting in the Playoffs. Kobe's a much better mid-range shooter in the RS as well. Career numbers prove it.
Wow.. / thread

Not only is kobe a much better shooter from every distance, but lebron isn't a good shooter from ANY distance and his efficiency is propped up by his at-rim bunnies

[FKAri]

So Kobe and MJ were BOTH trash outside 5 feet? Embarrassing, especially for MJ. Considering his height+vertical+quickness every jumpshot should be fukking wide open. I'm tired of hearing about this dumb nigguh who did nothing but jump high

[3ball]

So Kobe and MJ were BOTH trash outside 5 feet? Embarrassing, especially for MJ. Considering his height+vertical+quickness every jumpshot should be fukking wide open. I'm tired of hearing about this dumb nigguh who did nothing but jump high
Lebron has many seasons under 30%, while MJ has none and was over 40% in 97'.. lebron was never over 40%

Lebron was between 14% and 38%.. old MJ was at 33 and 41%

[72-10]

Thank you, the actual stats. So, as we can see, LeBron sucks from mid-range out...

[kennethgriffen]

I didn't include the ones which were dead on 5ft

OP said OUTSIDE 5ft


neither did i jackass

:roll: