95-96 bulls was the best team ever?

[Bronbron23]

They had the top scorer(player) in the league and maybe ever.
They had the top rebounder in the league
They had 3 players on the first team defence( not sure if that's ever happened before or since)
They had the best coach in the league

Some people say the current warriors would beat them but I just don't see it. Houston had them beat last hear before they lost cp and they did it mostly with there defence. Houston didn't have one player on the first or second defensive team while mj's bulls had 3 on the first team. They also had Harper who after those 3 was probably the best perimeter defender on the court. If Houston gave them problems defensively just imagine what the bulls would have done.

Some people say early 2000 lakers. I think that's actually a tougher match up for the bulls but they would pull it out. The numbers don't show it but rodman always did a good job gaurding Shaq considering his size. Mj and Kobe seem like a wash until you consider how much better mj was in the finals. Pip would be the x factor I think. He could gaurd Kobe also and Lakers really don't have anyone for him. he'd be by far the the best player on the court after the previous mentioned players.

I never saw early 80's Lakers or Celtics teams play so can't really comment on them. That Celtics team did sweep mj a few times but that was when he was young and pip wasn't around or just a rookie. They didn't have Phil either.

Anybody make a case for another team? Tim's spurs? Bron and Wade's heat?

[And1AllDay]

Jordan in the 96 Finals uhhmmmm

27 on 41% locked up by 6'2 Payton

Love to see Draymond and Iggy and Klay on him :oldlol:

23 on 36% ?

[Manny98]

17 Warriors would absolutely wreck them the Bulls defense would not be able to contain the offensive onslaught from Curry and KD no one can

[72-10]

I'm not sure if they'd beat the super-colluded passive aggressive 2017 Dubs, but they would if they had all of the advantages afforded to the Dubs such as had that time that the Dubs had to develop more three-point shooting. The 96 Bulls certainly had the best perimeter defense of all time and the best trapping defense of all time.

[And1AllDay]

17 Warriors would absolutely wreck them the Bulls defense would not be able to contain the offensive onslaught from Curry and KD no one can

Mike drops 27 on 41% vs 6'2 Payton

Vs Klay, Dray, Iggy? 22 on 34%

[72-10]

hey here's a question for you how many uncalled illegal screens and offensive fouls do you think the 17 Warriors made, and how many do you think the 96 Bulls made? Just wondering since it's the focal point of Klay Thompson's offense.

[And1AllDay]

hey here's a question for you how many uncalled illegal screens and offensive fouls do you think the 17 Warriors made, and how many do you think the 96 Bulls made? Just wondering since it's the focal point of Klay Thompson's offense.

73-9

[jstern]

Remember, the 73 win Warriors team publicly set out to beat the 72-10 record from the start of the season, in a league that started to copy the Popovich resting your starters, it's all about the post season culture. To me they were more of a 66 win level team. Which is still really good. But that 73 wins deserves an *. They were just not 73 wins good.

[bigkingsfan]

Bulls lost to an expansion team, so Warriors by default.

[Dray n Klay]

Yes, they had Jordan puking all over the court getting shut down by Payton and still managed to win :eek:


GOAT stackedness :bowdown:

[FireDavidKahn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=zONvMKkIpwA

[Manny98]

KD > 96 MJ

Curry > Pippen

Klay > Rodman

Dray > Kukoc

Iggy > Harper

And so on the Bulls lack of 3 point shooting would be there downfall

Imagine a Pippen,Longley,Rodman front court in todays era?

Worst spacing ever how is MJ going to score with a clogged up paint the entire game :roll:

[Rico2016]

2013 Heat
2016 Cavs
2018 Warriors
2016 Warriors
2000 Lakers
1980 Lakers
1997 Bulls

[Rico2016]

KD > 96 MJ

Curry > Pippen

Klay > Rodman

Dray > Kukoc

Iggy > Harper

And so on the Bulls lack of 3 point shooting would be there downfall

Imagine a Pippen,Longley,Rodman front court in todays era?

Worst spacing ever how is MJ going to score with a clogged up paint the entire game :roll:

Manny stay winning :applause:

[jstern]

Bulls lost to an expansion team, so Warriors by default.

Towards the end of the season, Dennis Rodman not even playing. Easy 73 wins. I'm looking at the games, they could have easily won over 75+ games, with all of the 1 point loss.

[1987_Lakers]

2017 Warriors are my GOAT pick. Maybe 2019 Warriors, depending how they play with Cousins in the playoffs.


I always had the '86 Celtics as my GOAT team before Durant joined GS, that team had everything, superstar talent in Bird, one of the best 2nd options ever in McHale who was in his prime, solid guard play with DJ-Ainge, and they had a center combo of Parish-Walton, (An All-Star and 6MOY). That team had insane size, along with all the weapons they also had the #1 defense.

The Durant-Curry Warriors have insane talent though, if we look at their 2017 team in particular, you are pretty much talking about a team with two superstars (Durant/Curry), an All-Star and one of the greatest shooters ever who can drop 30 on you on a good night (Klay), a DPOY in Draymond, and one of the best reserves in the league in Iggy. Along with the insane talent they displayed great chemistry and elite defensive play.

They pretty much surpassed the '86 Celtics in talent which was something I thought wasn't possible and showed they can play well together with all that talent. I have the '96 Bulls #3 on my list behind Boston and Golden State.

[Bronbron23]

KD > 96 MJ

Curry > Pippen

Klay > Rodman

Dray > Kukoc

Iggy > Harper

And so on the Bulls lack of 3 point shooting would be there downfall

Imagine a Pippen,Longley,Rodman front court in todays era?

Worst spacing ever how is MJ going to score with a clogged up paint the entire game :roll:
He'll no but nice try

96Mj>kd-getting good stats in the easiest era ever to score and jumping on a winning bandwagon dosnt make him better than 96 mj.

Rodman>Klay-rodman was one the best rebounders and defenders ever. Klays not one of the best anything. Getting crazy hot from three point line once in awhile doesn't make him better than rodman.

Pippen=curry-regular season and in general curry is better. In the playoffs and especially the finals pip is just as good as curry. Curry's 6 points more a game doesn't make up for pip being way more impactful on the defensive end.

Dray>kuc

Iggy>harper

And the paint in mj's era was way more clogged and you could actually play defence. He'd have a field day with the open lanes and non physical defence In this era

[1987_Lakers]

He'll no but nice try

96Mj>kd-getting good stats in the easiest era ever to score and jumping on a winning bandwagon dosnt make him better than 96 mj.

Rodman>Klay-rodman was one the best rebounders and defenders ever. Klays not one of the best anything. Getting crazy hot from three point line once in awhile doesn't make him better than rodman.

Pippen=curry-regular season and in general curry is better. In the playoffs and especially the finals pip is just as good as curry. Curry's 6 points more a game doesn't make up for pip being way more impactful on the defensive end.

Dray>kuc

Iggy>harper

And the paint in mj's era was way more clogged and you could actually play defence. He'd have a field day with the open lanes and non physical defence In this era

Imagine actually believing this. :oldlol:

And I'm taking Klay over Rodman, Rodman by '96 had lost his defensive versatility, he was strictly a PF and an offensive liability.

[Milbuck]

It's the 2017 Warriors. The only team that I think could really trouble them would be the '01 playoff Lakers imo. Any team without a peak Shaq-like inside force just isn't beating them.

[Young X]

2017 Warriors are my GOAT pick. Maybe 2019 Warriors, depending how they play with Cousins in the playoffs.


I always had the '86 Celtics as my GOAT team before Durant joined GS, that team had everything, superstar talent in Bird, one of the best 2nd options ever in McHale who was in his prime, solid guard play with DJ-Ainge, and they had a center combo of Parish-Walton, (An All-Star and 6MOY). That team had insane size, along with all the weapons they also had the #1 defense.

The Durant-Curry Warriors have insane talent though, if we look at their 2017 team in particular, you are pretty much talking about a team with two superstars (Durant/Curry), an All-Star and one of the greatest shooters ever who can drop 30 on you on a good night (Klay), a DPOY in Draymond, and one of the best reserves in the league in Iggy. Along with the insane talent they displayed great chemistry and elite defensive play.

They pretty much surpassed the '86 Celtics in talent which was something I thought wasn't possible and showed they can play well together with all that talent. I have the '96 Bulls #3 on my list behind Boston and Golden State.Bulls have better defensive talent.

[Bronbron23]

Imagine actually believing this. :oldlol:

And I'm taking Klay over Rodman, Rodman by '96 had lost his defensive versatility, he was strictly a PF and an offensive liability.
Rodman was still a very good defender. He was a better rebounder and defender than capela and wasn't much more of an offensive liability. Rodmans energy, hustle and mentality was also a huge factor. Klay is extremely one dimensional. When he's not hitting threes he dosnt contribute much. Your thinking purely offensive on that one but rodman has more impact on a game than Klay.

And I said curry is better than pip but in that series in a finals pip has just as much impact as curry does. Currys impact in the finals isnt consistent and he has often been outplayed by numerous players on both teams historically.

That rockets team was no where near mj's bulls team and they had warriors beat. They didn't do it with threes they did it with defence. Bulls are much better defensively

[diamenz]

that bulls team had it all. goat coaching, defense, rebounding, an elite offensive system built around cohesion, mike to put them over the top. their only real weakness was inside offense. you could say three point shooting too if you're comparing to today's teams, but they did have kerr & kukoc going on hot runs off the bench. their three point shooting was average for that era.

pop's spurs or bird's celtics would give them more trouble than the warriors would imo. even kobe & shaq's lakers. the dubs do have that crazy burst style offensive firepower (more so than the bulls or celts), but they especially lack in defense, rebounding and arguably cohesion and coaching. like i said it's their burst style firepower that makes them great. i'd put them in the second tier of atg teams personally.

[1987_Lakers]

Rodman was still a very good defender. He was a better rebounder and defender than capela and wasn't much more of an offensive liability. Rodmans energy, hustle and mentality was also a huge factor. Klay is extremely one dimensional. When he's not hitting threes he dosnt contribute much. Your thinking purely offensive on that one but rodman has more impact on a game than Klay.

And I said curry is better than pip but in that series in a finals pip has just as much impact as curry does. Currys impact in the finals isnt consistent and he has often been outplayed by numerous players on both teams historically.

That rockets team was no where near mj's bulls team and they had warriors beat. They didn't do it with threes they did it with defence. Bulls are much better defensively

You are forgetting that Klay is probably the best 3 and D player of all time. I've seen him frustrate the hell out of guys like Kyrie & Harden, his defense is highly regarded. To call Klay one dimensional is just wrong. I'm not sure I would take '96 Rodman over 2017 Draymond, considering Draymond was pretty much better than Rodman at every aspect except rebounding.

Lol at using Rodman's mentality as a plus, this is a guy throughout his career that had moments where he just didn't give a shit about playing, during the '97 postseason Phil Jackson benched him a few times because of his inconsistencies, he would go to Vegas after a Finals game and get drunk instead of focusing on the game. Rodman was a huge mental midget after his Detroit years, but some people don't know because they were not watching the league around this time.

[Milbuck]

that bulls team had it all. goat coaching, defense, rebounding, an elite offensive system built around cohesion, mike to put them over the top. their only real weakness was inside offense. you could say three point shooting too if you're comparing to today's teams, but they did have kerr & kukoc going on hot runs off the bench. their three point shooting was average for that era.

pop's spurs or bird's celtics would give them more trouble than the warriors would imo. even kobe & shaq's lakers. the dubs do have that crazy burst style offensive firepower (more so than the bulls or celts), but they especially lack in defense, rebounding and arguably cohesion and coaching. like i said it's their burst style firepower that makes them great. i'd put them in the second tier of atg teams personally.
No they don't. The '17 Warriors were an awesome defensive team with some of the best defenders in the league, including the DPOY.

[Marchesk]

It's the 2017 Warriors. The only team that I think could really trouble them would be the '01 playoff Lakers imo. Any team without a peak Shaq-like inside force just isn't beating them.

What about 2012 Heat and 2014 Spurs? I've never seen a better passing team than that 2014 Playoff Spurs team.

[Milbuck]

What about 2012 Heat and 2014 Spurs? I've never seen a better passing team than that 2014 Playoff Spurs team.
Both great teams but just not in the class of the 96 Bulls, 17 Warriors, 01 playoff Lakers, etc. I love that Spurs team and they're a strong championship team but I think that playoff run was way more about them catching fire at the absolute perfect moment against a Heat team on its last legs, than them actually being a GOAT-level team. They also got taken to 7 by a decent but nothing special Mavs team in the first round, and beat an OKC team missing Ibaka for 2 games (they blew out OKC in both those games, went 2-2 in games Ibaka played).

[nayte]

I personally consider the 92 bulls better. Due to age I Think they would match better against the warriors over the 96 version.

[ImKobe]

Bulls lost to an expansion team, so Warriors by default.

Warriors lost to the Lakers in blowout and to the Wolves at home in OT :lol

[Gileraracer]

Jordan in the 96 Finals uhhmmmm

27 on 41% locked up by 6'2 Payton

Love to see Draymond and Iggy and Klay on him :oldlol:

23 on 36% ?

Love to see JJ Barea on him

18ppg, not more

[Bronbron23]

You are forgetting that Klay is probably the best 3 and D player of all time. I've seen him frustrate the hell out of guys like Kyrie & Harden, his defense is highly regarded. To call Klay one dimensional is just wrong. I'm not sure I would take '96 Rodman over 2017 Draymond, considering Draymond was pretty much better than Rodman at every aspect except rebounding.

Lol at using Rodman's mentality as a plus, this is a guy throughout his career that had moments where he just didn't give a shit about playing, during the '97 postseason Phil Jackson benched him a few times because of his inconsistencies, he would go to Vegas after a Finals game and get drunk instead of focusing on the game. Rodman was a huge mental midget after his Detroit years, but some people don't know because they were not watching the league around this time.
I disagree. Klay is one dimensional. He is a solid defender for sure but not a great or really good one. He may be the best three point shooting defender but not many three point specialist were good defenders. If you compare him to other 2 gaurd scorers/defenders then he's way down the list. Most great players are great at at least 2 things. Klay is only great at shooting threes.

And yeah rodman was alot to deal with but Phil knew how to do it. Rodman would absolutely get in people's heads and bother them. He was alot like green that way except rodman actually had more self control than green as hard as that is to believe. Rodman would totally take green out of the game physically and mentally.