View Full Version : Happy 52nd Birthday to Kurt Cobain
Hey Yo
02-20-2019, 01:20 PM
I remember exactly where I was when I heard 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' for the first time and when I heard it announced that he had committed suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCgwXWEQ10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvwqSMRtoSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6XBlkvTmv8
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Akrazotile
02-20-2019, 01:55 PM
I know Nirvana gets credit for popularizing the alternative/grunge era, was never too big on them personally. Prefer Soundgarden, PJ, Foo Fighters, Pumpkins, RATM.
Thats just me tho.
Patrick Chewing
02-20-2019, 02:03 PM
I know Nirvana gets credit for popularizing the alternative/grunge era, was never too big on them personally. Prefer Soundgarden, PJ, Foo Fighters, Pumpkins, RATM.
Thats just me tho.
Yeah they are vastly overrated. Soundgarden and AIC were much better.
Crazy how from the Big 4, Eddie Vedder is still alive and kicking while everyone else is dead by suicide.
TheMan
02-20-2019, 02:39 PM
Cobain's bitch was annoying af, she talked mad shit about metal and how it needed to go away. Yeah I realize a lot of shitty bands by the late 80s were making all metal music seem vapid and MTV dropped metal music like a hot potato and tried to pretend they never were into it but a lot of those bands were inspired by metal music to begin with, even Kurt before he got into punk. You can hear the Sabbath influence on Kim Thayil and Tom Morello's riffs. Most of these dudes grew up on metal.
I also wasn't ever too much into Nirvana, Soundgarden were my faves along with AIC and RATM.
RIP
HylianNightmare
02-20-2019, 03:47 PM
Rip
But his music was garbage
egokiller
02-20-2019, 10:27 PM
I know Nirvana gets credit for popularizing the alternative/grunge era, was never too big on them personally. Prefer Soundgarden, PJ, Foo Fighters, Pumpkins, RATM.
Thats just me tho.
Dave Grohl from Nirvana is the front man for Foo Fighters. How can you be big on Foo Fighters but not on Nirvana?
:roll:
Akrazotile
02-20-2019, 10:56 PM
Dave Grohl from Nirvana is the front man for Foo Fighters. How can you be big on Foo Fighters but not on Nirvana?
:roll:
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Gee, really!?? What a revelation :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Nirvana was Kurt's writing and sound. Foo Fighters were Grohl's.
Grohl's was better.
Thanks for the breaking news tho.
egokiller
02-21-2019, 12:23 AM
:roll:
Gee, really!?? What a revelation :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Nirvana was Kurt's writing and sound. Foo Fighters were Grohl's.
Grohl's was better.
Thanks for the breaking news tho.
Where do you think Grohl got it from? :facepalm
stalkerforlife
02-21-2019, 12:30 AM
He was murdered.
Patrick Chewing
02-21-2019, 12:37 AM
One of the greatest and heaviest albums ever made.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71rRNAnVW6L._SY355_.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/4edd6e0fdfc5673cc5e11bc8140933ed/tumblr_pd96b4GluV1ugv7b3o1_400.gif
Edgar Friendly
02-21-2019, 12:47 AM
Dave Grohl from Nirvana is the front man for Foo Fighters. How can you be big on Foo Fighters but not on Nirvana?
:roll:
Everyone is different. I love Nirvana but hate Foo Fighters. In fact I think all the "grunge" bands of the early 90s, and their off shoots, suck balls except for Nirvana.
My ranking:
1. Nirvana
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2. Temple of the Dog(3 songs)
3. Alice in Chains
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4. Audioslave
5. Soundgarden
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6. Pearl Jam
7. Foo Fighters
8. Stone Temple Pilots
You can't really compare Smashing Pumpkins or RATM to any of these grunge bands. They are on a whole other level better. If you consider Sponge grunge, they are better than all these guys as well. I've seen Pearl Jam and Soundgarden in concert, they both were horrible.
nah he killed himself so he was a *****. we don't give any of these dudes shoutouts.
kurt cobain
chris cornell
chester bennington
all fakkits
Hey Yo
02-21-2019, 11:23 AM
:roll:
Gee, really!?? What a revelation :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
Nirvana was Kurt's writing and sound. Foo Fighters were Grohl's.
Grohl's was better.
Thanks for the breaking news tho.
:durantunimpressed:
Grohl's an attention whore. Never met a camera he didn't jump in front of.
Patrick Chewing
02-21-2019, 12:10 PM
Everyone is different. I love Nirvana but hate Foo Fighters. In fact I think all the "grunge" bands of the early 90s, and their off shoots, suck balls except for Nirvana.
My ranking:
1. Nirvana
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2. Temple of the Dog(3 songs)
3. Alice in Chains
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.
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4. Audioslave
5. Soundgarden
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6. Pearl Jam
7. Foo Fighters
8. Stone Temple Pilots
You can't really compare Smashing Pumpkins or RATM to any of these grunge bands. They are on a whole other level better. If you consider Sponge grunge, they are better than all these guys as well. I've seen Pearl Jam and Soundgarden in concert, they both were horrible.
FFS......:facepalm
Bimbo Coles
02-21-2019, 01:24 PM
I do think Cobain is a fascinating figure. He had it all and squandered it. However, I don't feel he had the talent to warrant his standing. He got lucky. If you consider the Van Gogh principle, that the artist can be way ahead of their time, I believe The Gun Club would have substituted well for Nirvana in the early '90s. This could have been the song of a generation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH2ZWUZ2oP0
and then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMiDak76KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMeMM9J0-oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfSLey4qzM8
and for a change of pace...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFiYh3eC2s
Self-loathing, desolation, desperation. Timing is everything, though. More palatable than The Cramps, with Cobain and his contemporaries being greatly indebted to them. Jeffrey Lee Pierce had the goods to carry a indie rock movement on his back (when it was becoming mainstream), but, like Cobain, a fragile mind would have been the great stumbling block.
The best things Corgan and co. did isn't even grunge, nor is it psychedelic grunge (something Corgan is, um, accused of). It's more in keeping with post-punk, with a dash of new wave (rare for the band)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHucJfosf-s
and this marginally more familiar Pumpkins sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuld5lJV78
Overdrive
02-21-2019, 01:43 PM
I do think Cobain is a fascinating figure. He had it all and squandered it. However, I don't feel he had the talent to warrant his standing. He got lucky. If you consider the Van Gogh principle, that the artist can be way ahead of their time, I believe The Gun Club would have substituted well for Nirvana in the early '90s. This could have been the song of a generation...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH2ZWUZ2oP0
and then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMiDak76KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMeMM9J0-oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfSLey4qzM8
and for a change of pace...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QFiYh3eC2s
Self-loathing, desolation, desperation. Timing is everything, though. More palatable than The Cramps, with Cobain and his contemporaries being greatly indebted to them. Jeffrey Lee Pierce had the goods to carry a indie rock movement on his back (when it was becoming mainstream), but, like Cobain, a fragile mind would have been the great stumbling block.
The best things Corgan and co. did isn't even grunge, nor is it psychedelic grunge (something Corgan is, um, accused of). It's more in keeping with post-punk, with a dash of new wave (rare for the band)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHucJfosf-s
and this marginally more familiar Pumpkins sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuld5lJV78
This is the second time I stumble across the Gun Club and them being a Nirvana substitude. I think they're too new wavy. Nirvana's appeal came from being raw and uncontrolled. Mudhoney is the closest in sound, but their songs weren't catchy enough. What made Nirvana great was that while they had that raw, uncontrolled sound they were still poppy tunes you could sing along to.
That first Pumpkins songs sounds like early Cult.
JohnnySic
02-21-2019, 02:02 PM
The appeal of Nirvana has a lot of “had to have been there” to it. I was in high school at the time. Hair metal/glam metal was a tired, bloated caricature of itself by about ‘91. We were ready for something new. Out of nowhere came this new sound. It hit the zeitgeist like a sledgehammer.
“Smells like teen Spirit” defined a generation. I still get chills when I watch the video (Pearl Jam’s “Jeremy” has the same effect on me.)
Bimbo Coles
02-24-2019, 11:37 AM
This is the second time I stumble across the Gun Club and them being a Nirvana substitude. I think they're too new wavy. Nirvana's appeal came from being raw and uncontrolled. Mudhoney is the closest in sound, but their songs weren't catchy enough. What made Nirvana great was that while they had that raw, uncontrolled sound they were still poppy tunes you could sing along to.
That first Pumpkins songs sounds like early Cult.
Interesting. The Gun Club captured the zeitgeist of the early '90s... years before they happened. I fear they're too cowpunk to be mainstream. Other older bands like Sonic Youth, The Cramps and The Butthole Surfers would have been bigger business if they had the novelty behind them. Of the grunge bands, I'm not really sure who fits the bill. I prefer the sister genre, slowcore, w/ Mark Kozelek as its champion...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQ4nuUuwNo
This is darker than anything grunge produced. Great stuff.
I don't like Nirvana. I don't like REM, who were one of the earlier bands to push the outsider (college) scene into the mainstream. In fact, I thought they were better as sellouts (WB > IRS years). I don't like The Cult, but I could reluctantly find it in that Pumpkins. The Chameleons also come up. I don't think it's a fair comparison. That's a great, great band.
Prometheus
02-24-2019, 11:45 AM
Dave Grohl from Nirvana is the front man for Foo Fighters. How can you be big on Foo Fighters but not on Nirvana?
:roll:
:facepalm
What are you a ****ing moron? The two bands sound nothing alike. That the singer of one band is the drummer of another means nothing.
egokiller
02-24-2019, 06:42 PM
:facepalm
What are you a ****ing moron? The two bands sound nothing alike. That the singer of one band is the drummer of another means nothing.
Get your hearing checked. Can you not hear Nirvana's impact on Grohl when you listen to songs like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFX25H3ftc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXg5bNXmY0k
Prometheus
02-24-2019, 08:12 PM
Yeah no shit there's common influence... but there's also a world of difference.
I'm not a huge fan of Nirvana, but Kurt was a unique artist. Grohl is far more musical - a better singer, better player, more melodic sense. But Kurt had an edge that was one-of-a-kind. His atmosphere of poetry and tortured vocal delivery was not something that can be replicated.
Spurs m8
02-24-2019, 08:25 PM
I'd say the ones paying out Nirvana are the same Bron type stans who disrespect MJ.
They didn't live the 90s and just don't understand.
bballer
02-24-2019, 09:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUy2UbeiNec
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