Once we had a message board for basketball discussion

[elementally morale]

It was nice.

[RRR3]

Jeff refuses to ban trolls.

Because of this almost everyone ends up trolling to some degree.

[Uncle Drew]

All y'all who complain about this forum are so weird. :oldlol:

It's been like this for years. Trolls have been around for ages. It's been about LeBron/Kobe/Dad Killer since forever. You know this, and yet each and every day you choose to come back to this place. Why? What's stopping you from hitting that log out button?

[RRR3]

All y'all who complain about this forum are so weird. :oldlol:

It's been like this for years. Trolls have been around for ages. It's been about LeBron/Kobe/Dad Killer since forever. You know this, and yet each and every day you choose to come back to this place. Why? What's stopping you from hitting that log out button?
It’s always had a lot of trolling but we used to have legitimate discussions too. And there used to be way more posters.

[warriorfan]

https://i.postimg.cc/bY3BNCMY/4-E4627-EE-715-A-4374-9592-95279662125-C.jpg

[bullettooth]

https://i.postimg.cc/bY3BNCMY/4-E4627-EE-715-A-4374-9592-95279662125-C.jpg

This.

[Ben Simmons 25]

It was nice.

It may have gotten slightly worse but you're pretty ****ing biased because you're a Kobe fanboy. This place was just as big of a shit show 10 years ago as it is now.

Kobe fans were trolling on this board since its inception damn near 20 years ago. But since you approved of it then, you didn't notice. You consistently pretend as if you've matured, but you haven't.

This place has largely been a shit show since its inception.

[brooks_thompson]

This.

I'm actually starting to believe that this isn't a bunch of trolls trying to mind**** each other, and this one person is responsible for completely hijacking this message board, driving most of the good posters away in the process. I literally have no clue what is going on sometimes when I log in here. Who is who, what is what. If it is just one guy solely responsible, that is really, really creepy. And people have been feeding him too long.

[Celtics 1825]

The problem is that the idiot trolls (on both sides) will always find a way to bring LeBron or Kobe into EVERY SINGLE THREAD even if it has nothing to do with either of those players

[RealSkipBayless]

I'm actually starting to believe that this isn't a bunch of trolls trying to mind**** each other, and this one person is responsible for completely hijacking this message board, driving most of the good posters away in the process. I literally have no clue what is going on sometimes when I log in here. Who is who, what is what. If it is just one guy solely responsible, that is really, really creepy. And people have been feeding him too long.
It might be happening here. Not sure. But I have seen on another board back in the day someone that had multiple accounts that would argue with themselves. Play both sides.

[elementally morale]

It may have gotten slightly worse but you're pretty ****ing biased because you're a Kobe fanboy. This place was just as big of a shit show 10 years ago as it is now.

Kobe fans were trolling on this board since its inception damn near 20 years ago. But since you approved of it then, you didn't notice. You consistently pretend as if you've matured, but you haven't.

This place has largely been a shit show since its inception.

:facepalm

[sdot_thadon]

too many player trolls and too many topics for the same f'n discussions. all this tunnel vision trolling does is make everyone troll, you end up arguing against players you actually like to combat retards on the board. But as someone else said it's always been a shitshow just fill the blank with new names every few years playerwise and poster wise. 2 years from now will be the same shit with different names.:oldlol:

[insidehoops]

We still have it, right here. The only issue is LeBron/Kobe stuff. Almost all discussions not involving LeBron/Kobe are okay, good, or better than good.

The key is when serious bball fans start a topic, other people have to respect the topic and not stick nonsense in it.

We should start temp-banning people who do that, who dive into a good topic and stick nonsense into it.

[insidehoops]

What I also could do is start reading EVERY SINGLE topic that people post, to gage how seriosu the topic is.

Light-hearted stuff, including light-hearted topics, are cool, of course. BBall is fun etc. But if serious fans are discussing something in intelligent fashion and then some moron dives in, and it isn't just one dumb response but a series of them, then that moron needs to be sent away for a while.

[eliteballer]

Jeff this board was almost ruined because of the poster cited above with 10 accounts constantly flooding it with LeBron nonsense.

It was a desolate wasteland.

Until I went ham in that HGH thread tempering his enthusiasm...notice how traffic is up since then?

Yet you continue to let him do or it or refuse to appoint more mods, hurting your own business.

[eliteballer]

It might be happening here. Not sure. But I have seen on another board back in the day someone that had multiple accounts that would argue with themselves. Play both sides.

It's just some kid who doesn't have a life outside of the board.

[Spurs m8]

Jeff this board was almost ruined because of the poster cited above with 10 accounts constantly flooding it with LeBron nonsense.

It was a desolate wasteland.

Until I went ham in that HGH thread tempering his enthusiasm...notice how traffic is up since then?

Yet you continue to let him do or it or refuse to appoint more mods, hurting your own business.

Exactly.

Ip ban Wheels and the forum improves 10 fold

[hiphopanonymous]

Exactly.

Ip ban Wheels and the forum improves 10 fold
cosigned

[AirFederer]

We still have it, right here. The only issue is LeBron/Kobe stuff. Almost all discussions not involving LeBron/Kobe are okay, good, or better than good.

The key is when serious bball fans start a topic, other people have to respect the topic and not stick nonsense in it.

We should start temp-banning people who do that, who dive into a good topic and stick nonsense into it.
Hi Simon

[Marchesk]

Hi Simon

LOL, would be funny having Jeff as the ultimate troll.

Euroleague, Theoo, Lazarus and Simon.

Would explain things. This is Jeff's playground where he keeps his trolling sharp.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Look at all the Kobe trolls salivating at the idea of getting rid of some sort of mythological figure that doesn't even exist... as if they wouldn't turn this into an echo chamber beyond belief if this larger than life "Simon" caricature was banned...

You guys would drive this site into the ground harder than it already is.

You tout yourselves as rational fans with some strong grasp on the game... but nah...

It would just be a never ending circlejerk of statements such as... "Yeah but he's a closer, bitch! Finishes!" "Nah, Kobe's a killer! Like a mamba... *sizzle noise*" Yeah... place sounds so much better. lol...

"Simon" is Neo and you're a bunch of agent smiths, tbh.

[Dray n Klay]

The trolling on this place is absolutely ridiculous and stops a lot of serious basketball discussion. Jeff needs to sort this issue or a lot of us would leave.

[Celtics 1825]

The trolling on this place is absolutely ridiculous and stops a lot of serious basketball discussion. Jeff needs to sort this issue or a lot of us would leave.
I know you ain't talking :kobe:

[jstern]

Would it really be right to ban someone who's stuck in a wheelchair if ISH is all they have? If he lives and dies for ISH. If he loves what you created and spends his whole day dedicated to it?

I mean how flattering would that be for Jeff?

You have a guy, in a basement with multiple computers, wheeling back and forth from one computer to another, giving the site traffic.

A mogul in his own little world, where without ISH he would just be a guy in a wheelchair.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Would it really be right to ban someone who's stuck in a wheelchair if ISH is all they have? If he lives and dies for ISH. If he loves what you created and spends his whole day dedicated to it?

I mean how flattering would that be for Jeff?

You have a guy, in a baseman with multiple computers, wheeling back and forth from one computer to another, giving the site traffic.

Yeah, you're right, we should keep you.

[hiphopanonymous]

Would it really be right to ban someone who's stuck in a wheelchair if ISH is all they have? If he lives and dies for ISH. If he loves what you created and spends his whole day dedicated to it?

I mean how flattering would that be for Jeff?

You have a guy, in a baseman with multiple computers, wheeling back and forth from one computer to another, giving the site traffic.

A mogul in his own little world, where without ISH he would just be a guy in a wheelchair.
People in wheelchairs can actually have jobs and function in society.

People without wheelchairs can be vagrants that live in basements and have nothing but multiple internet personalities going for them.

Let's stop making excuses for him - I'm all for banning him for the greater good of ISH (and society at large). Ultimately, it may be the best thing that ever happened to him because he'd be forced to do something else.





Simon if you're reading this - I believe in you! But I want you banned. It's for the best. :cheers:

[egokiller]

I'm actually starting to believe that this isn't a bunch of trolls trying to mind**** each other, and this one person is responsible for completely hijacking this message board, driving most of the good posters away in the process. I literally have no clue what is going on sometimes when I log in here. Who is who, what is what. If it is just one guy solely responsible, that is really, really creepy. And people have been feeding him too long.

The kid with all the alts is Jeff's nephew, and those are only half of them. As a favor to his brother, Jeff allows Simon to troll on here all day and talk to himself. Kid doesn't have much else going for him being confined to a wheelchair and all. What the fvck do you want him to do? Have some sympathy you wind defender! Stop acting like a Christian Thompson.

[masonanddixon]

When I got here in like 2003 it was a lot of Kobe fans and they were funny as shit, could shoot the shit and engage in dialogue but as soon as demongraphics shifted and it became majority high schoolers and lebron fans the place went to total shit. I know people off board who used to post here and refuse to do so now because it's been totally ruined by the lebron posters.

Other issue is all the race baiting from the left (who are attached to lebron) which is why I have to balance it out by shutting them down and putting them in their place.

[Indian guy]

Uhh, not really.

I've been here since 2001 and ISH has always been a huge troll-fest. Particularly with LeBron's ascension starting 2006 and how the biggest fanbase here (Lakers) couldn't deal with it.

And since ISH has no issues with trolling, there's nothing stopping people from being at their worst.

[TheCorporation]

The mere fact that 3ball can say with a straight face that LeBron James is not top 5 is the reason why this form is plummeting.

[egokiller]

When I got here in like 2003 it was a lot of Kobe fans and they were funny as shit, could shoot the shit and engage in dialogue but as soon as demongraphics shifted and it became majority high schoolers and lebron fans the place went to total shit. I know people off board who used to post here and refuse to do so now because it's been totally ruined by the lebron posters.

Other issue is all the race baiting from the left (who are attached to lebron) which is why I have to balance it out by shutting them down and putting them in their place.

The lechoke stans on this board are mostly white. Let's tally them up:

Paramesh Patel
Pinoy Lebron23 aka Manny98 aka Baller86
Vino aka Bonner
RRR and his alts
Red1 and his alts
Simon and his 100 alts

That's it. The rest of them left after we proved them wrong and they saw their hero fail with 3/9. If you ban the guy with the 100 alts that the rest of the lechoke stans on here try to live vicariously through (as sad as that may be) they will have no choice but to fall in line, but that would be inhumane. This place is all that Simon has.

[TheImmortal]

ISH is ish.. if you don't care for it then buddy.. what can i tell you? there are plenty of sites you can explore out there. The idea that this site was somehow better back in the day is quite laughable. :oldlol:

[Manny98]

No one seems to care about anything that doesn't involve Jordan,Kobe and LeBron including the people that are considered "quality posters"

[Manny98]

The lechoke stans on this board are mostly white. Let's tally them up:

Paramesh Patel
Pinoy Lebron23 aka Manny98 aka Baller86
Vino aka Bonner
RRR and his alts
Red1 and his alts
Simon and his 100 alts

That's it. The rest of them left after we proved them wrong and they saw their hero fail with 3/9. If you ban the guy with the 100 alts that the rest of the lechoke stans on here try to live vicariously through (as sad as that may be) they will have no choice but to fall in line, but that would be inhumane. This place is all that Simon has.
Who df is Baller86 i haven't heard of him a day in my life

I'm not a fakkit like you that needs to hide behind 50 alt accounts

[PickernRoller]

Interesting thread....

[diamenz]

u can blame the people that reply to the trolls just as much as the trolls themselves. just don't fckn reply and they'll go away. but nah, y'all love the drama.

[Kblaze8855]

Jeff this board was almost ruined because of the poster cited above with 10 accounts constantly flooding it with LeBron nonsense.

It was a desolate wasteland.

Until I went ham in that HGH thread tempering his enthusiasm...notice how traffic is up since then?

Amazing to me that you think that you are a part of the solution and not the problem.....or that anyone altered their way of doing anything because you obsessively posted massive pictures in a topic nobody read.

As if some other maniac on the other end of the Kobe/Lebron spectrum decided not to make a topic because you are in another topic trolling like you have been doing for at least 6-8 years when you were at one point a fairly normal poster.

If we wanted to limit ISH to people who behave like normal fans talking about sports you would be on the very long list of people who had to be banned to make it happen. You wouldnt have been back in the day but you would be now.

Generally I let most everything go because I felt it was clear ISH was intended to be less serious talk than a place for people to have fun...but I dont even know how most of it is fun for you guys.

Its mostly just noise blocking out all other reasonable discussion. I counted I think 34 Lebron topics on the front page a week or two ago and I think 3 were yours. I wanted to delete the entire front page but just went to bed instead. You types on either side simply will not stop without being forced.

[eliteballer]

Amazing to me that you think that you are a part of the solution and not the problem.....or that anyone altered their way of doing anything because you obsessively posted massive pictures in a topic nobody read.

As if some other maniac on the other end of the Kobe/Lebron spectrum decided not to make a topic because you are in another topic trolling like you have been doing for at least 6-8 years when you were at one point a fairly normal poster.

If we wanted to limit ISH to people who behave like normal fans talking about sports you would be on the very long list of people who had to be banned to make it happen. You wouldnt have been back in the day but you would be now.

Generally I let most everything go because I felt it was clear ISH was intended to be less serious talk than a place for people to have fun...but I dont even know how most of it is fun for you guys.

Its mostly just noise blocking out all other reasonable discussion. I counted I think 34 Lebron topics on the front page a week or two ago and I think 3 were yours. I wanted to delete the entire front page but just went to bed instead. You types on either side simply will not stop without being forced.


Well I *could* point out that thread had almost 70,000 views.

I *could* point out that I've been posting more in the last year than I have in the previous 5 combined, checking the LeBron nonsense with other threads/posts as well, and activity on the board is *coincidentally* significantly up.

You can say what you want about my activity, but I've never approached anything as absurd as posting night and day about 1 topic/player with a dozen accounts.

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://www.technologystudent.com/despro_3/wchair1.gif

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Anyone remember the old Inside Hoops boards? I was on there too - as soon as it switched in 2006 I picked this username. Came on here around 2002-ish. It's always been like this - the Kobe hype died down for a while, then the Lebron hype started up (but it's dying down to due to all the L's).


Here is the front page from 2003: https://web.archive.org/web/20030206213707/http://www.insidehoops.com/index.shtml


$hit was the same then really.

[PickernRoller]

http://www.technologystudent.com/despro_3/wchair1.gif

What a beautiful template. Thank you.

[Ass Dan]

REALITY CHECK:

I have been here since 2006 right when the board changed to its new format.

1 - most of us have more than one account. this is my troll/serious account and the only one I use now because this forum is 90% snark and trolling.

2- most of us come here to troll, talk shit, get revenge, pwn, mindrape, quad seoson or whatever on someone, we just wanna call BS on someone. IP banning trolls will simply make this place dead, this is a trollfest.

3- IT WAS better before. People used this forum to hone their writing skills, J$ wasn't in ISIS yet and was funny. Now lame 'comediennes' like Nick Young and whatever is it the retards of today's heavy users find funny run the asylum.

4-The OTC got destroyed by Trumptards, the alt-right and bro conservatism. Not saying its right or wrong, well...its f*cking wrong, but there is not talking to them.

5- The proliferation of memes and gifs make meaningful conversation hard. People growing up today are going to be depressed morons with a brain like mushy peas.

6- The greatest thread in OTC history 'Catz Hernan Days' was deleted. WHHHHYYYYYYYY?

7- Laker fans are ridiculous.

[ImKobe]

Kobe missed the Playoffs...

[90sgoat]

This forum is changing because of the Euro takeover of the NBA.

It has to change if it is to survive and Doncic fans will play a leading role in this transformation. We know there will be pushback and resentment.

It must be hard to admit as hiphop americans to deal with, but the future is Euro.

[Kblaze8855]

Well I *could* point out that thread had almost 70,000 views.

I *could* point out that I've been posting more in the last year than I have in the previous 5 combined, checking the LeBron nonsense with other threads/posts as well, and activity on the board is *coincidentally* significantly up.

You can say what you want about my activity, but I've never approached anything as absurd as posting night and day about 1 topic/player with a dozen accounts.

There are topics with 50 posts and 70 thousand views when a nut bumps it all the time for a year or two.

And the idea that you "check" anything and traffic is up as a result is so ridiculous I cant believe you arent trolling right now. Nobody...and I do mean nobody...gives a single **** about you posting pictures of Lebron when they decide if they are gonna make a topic or not. Every sports fan in America has been looking at pictures and videos of Lebron on a nearly daily basis for 18 years. You post 900 giant images in a topic that is unreadable as a result you do nothing but make yourself look nearly unhinged.

The entire problem is borderline insane people thinking they need to "check" the other side with endless stupid topics and nobody but the other nuts even read and reply to. Some jackass makes a "Why did Lebron only score ____ points last night?" topic with no content beyond an emoji and then some other jackass makes a "Why did Kobe shoot ____ from the field?" topic and then here you come with a picture like this isnt a board of 5,000 people who have been looking at Lebron since at least 2002. Last first page purge you had some stupid shit about "Leroid" with again....no written content...with some other idiot having a topic about Blood doping in germany and the Kobe connection.

All you types do is talk to eachother with thread titles to invite further trolling in the topic that has no real content. And both sides when asked...will say they have to check the stupidity of the other side.....when both sides are exactly the same thing.

Even if you made good arguments(And you dont..no more than the other side) you would have no more ability to "check" them than they can you. You dont care what they say. They dont care what you say. Youre not talking to each other...youre talking at each other...with hundreds of mostly normal people caught in the crossfire wishing you would all go away.

In a real cleanup the obsessed types on both sides would have to go. And that absolutely includes you.

[Ben Simmons 25]

Well I *could* point out that thread had almost 70,000 views.

I *could* point out that I've been posting more in the last year than I have in the previous 5 combined, checking the LeBron nonsense with other threads/posts as well, and activity on the board is *coincidentally* significantly up.

You can say what you want about my activity, but I've never approached anything as absurd as posting night and day about 1 topic/player with a dozen accounts.

You silly, detached, unaware, stupid ****. lol.

[Ben Simmons 25]

All you types do is talk to eachother with thread titles to invite further trolling in the topic that has no real content. And both sides when asked...will say they have to check the stupidity of the other side.....when both sides are exactly the same thing.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg


Even if you made good arguments(And you dont..no more than the other side) you would have no more ability to "check" them than they can you. You dont care what they say. They dont care what you say. Youre not talking to each other...youre talking at each other...with hundreds of mostly normal people caught in the crossfire wishing you would all go away.

In a real cleanup the obsessed types on both sides would have to go. And that absolutely includes you.

Bingo.

[Kblaze8855]

Realistically none of this is gonna matter. He wont stop. They wont stop. Both sides think the other side is the crazy one. Thats life. Thinking we are done here for now.