How Far All Time Does LeBron Fall After Failing To Make The Playoffs?

[selrahc]

LeBron has benefitted his whole career playing in a weak conference. I say he falls out of top 15 going 0/1 making the playoffs in the West. If Kobe played in the East his whole career he would be obvious number 1 all time.

[Mr. Jabbar]

He would exit the top 30, and it breaks my heart...

[bullettooth]

LeBron is barely at #5 for me. Dude is overrated.

[34-24 Footwork]

Still trying to figure this out. It's significant because the stans SWORE that his success in the East would've been mirrored in the West.

But then again, You also have to factor in that he played last finals with a broken hand, which REALLY showed his heroism.

[kennethgriffen]

well this proves his finals appearances were gifted so his 2 bail out shots likely should never have taken place to begin with


i'd give him credit for 1 colluded title and finals appearance back in 2012. thats good enough for a resume on par with moses malone

[Celtics 1825]

He may have to slide to 4 or 5 for me. Missing the playoffs while still near your prime (dude is still averaging 27-8-7) is pretty bad. Yeah he missed 18 games but he should be able to will this team to a playoff spot over the next 20 something games. It's LeBron James after all.

[superduper]

Considering the fact that he is literally irrelevant without running away to form superteams colluded with multiple perennial MVP/FMVP/allstars on multiple occasions I'm sad to say he was never really that high to begin with :(

#$tats
#LeGOAT

[AirTupac]

Around 8th spot

[kennethgriffen]

Around 8th spot


na theres no way lebron can be ahead of any of these guys

- jordan
- kareem
- russell
- kobe
- magic
- bird
- duncan
- shaq
- wilt
- hakeem



lebron has 1 legit title from a fake lockout year on a colluded team... he's basically moses malone

[superduper]

na theres no way lebron can be ahead of any of these guys

- jordan
- kareem
- russell
- kobe
- magic
- bird
- duncan
- shaq
- wilt
- hakeem



lebron has 1 legit title from a fake lockout year on a colluded team... he's basically moses malone

But have you seen his VORP and Gamescore?

#LeGOAT

[kennethgriffen]

But have you seen his VORP and Gamescore?

#LeGOAT


have you seen this rare picture of lebron and d wade

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2015/09/13/moses-malone-dr-j-julius-erving-.jpg

[red1]

Got him falling out of the firm top 2-5 all-time range into a firm top 2-5 all-time range.

[Manny98]

He may have to slide to 4 or 5 for me. Missing the playoffs while still near your prime (dude is still averaging 27-8-7) is pretty bad. Yeah he missed 18 games but he should be able to will this team to a playoff spot over the next 20 something games. It's LeBron James after all.
Where do you rank Kobe then?

He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs

[superduper]

Where do you rank Kobe then?

He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs

What conference were they both in respectively?

[StrongLurk]

No top 10 player falls out of that company based on what they do at age 34 and after lol.

The fact that you guys still consider Lebron to be in his prime at this point is actually a legacy booster.

[kennethgriffen]

Where do you rank Kobe then?

He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs


kobes career isn't built on phoney narratives that he can carry any team to the playoffs


he has 5 rings and a winning finals record... its lebron whos lost 6 finals and has a losing record that needs the "he makes any team a contender" narrative



stripping away those 8 straight finals appearances destroys lebrons career. they're no longer looked at as an accomplishment and now appear to be a gift



it wouldn't matter if kobe/odom/rudy T were healthy in 2005


we don't rest our case on making any team a finals team


we rest our case on the 5 titles in 7 tries

[Loco 50]

Big LBJ fan here, he would never miss the playoffs, especially since they already started, duh!

But even if he does I have him hanging around 25. I really like LeBron though, so maybe that's a little too good.

He's waaaaaay better than Carlos Boozer, but not quite as good as Joe Dumars. That little f'er played mean defense.

Anyway, you should do a poll!

[Celtics 1825]

Where do you rank Kobe then?

He missed the playoffs in his absolute prime which is the equivalent of 09 LeBron missing the playoffs
10th, and yes I factored that into my ranking.

[Manny98]

kobes career isn't built on phoney narratives that he can carry any team to the playoffs


he has 5 rings and a winning finals record... its lebron whos lost 6 finals and has a losing record that needs the "he makes any team a contender" narrative



stripping away those 8 straight finals appearances destroys lebrons career. they're no longer looked at as an accomplishment and now appear to be a gift



it wouldn't matter if kobe/odom/rudy T were healthy in 2005


we don't rest our case on making any team a finals team


we rest our case on the 5 titles in 7 tries
He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man

[superduper]

He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man

What did LeGOAT do without running away?

[Manny98]

What did LeGOAT do without running away?
What did Kobe do without a HOF big?

**** all

[superduper]

What did Kobe do without a HOF big?

**** all

Is Pau a HOF if he stayed 0-12ing and beyond in Memphis?

If your answer is no, ethered
If your answer is yes, you might be retarded

[PP34Deuce]

He's top 5-8 all time. Him not making the playoffs is a failure season but not a huge dent on his legacy. Legacy is in tact.

He's not the GOAT. He's not really top 3. Most people would say he's 4-8. That won't change.

[dazzer87]

6th.... Playoff or not.....

[Hey Yo]

What did LeGOAT do without running away?
He took a scrub team to the Finals

What did Kobe do without crying his way to the 2nd most successful franchise in NBA history?

[aj1987]

Will still be a top 3 GOAT. Meanwhile, Brick will get kicked out of the top 20 by Curry and KD.

[warriorfan]

Hakeem did more with less during his back to back run. Without collusion too. LeBron is in this area, perhaps below him.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Got him falling out of the firm top 12-15 all-time range into a firm top 20-25 all-time range.



Agree.

[kennethgriffen]

He has 5 rings because he played with Shaq for most of his career

If LeBron got to play with prime Garnett for half of his career he'd have 5-6 rings by now as well

You Kobe stans cling onto team acomplishements because its all you have got

LeBron is vastly superior to Kobe as an individual and has won more championships as the man


kobe has 5 rings because he saved shaq in 2000 game 7 vs portland leading the lakers in points, rebounds, assists and blocks. then again saving shaq in game 4 of the finals after he fouled out. had they lost that game they would have been down 3-2 going into game 6 since they also lost game 5


and we all know how kobe dismantled portland/sacramento/sanantonio the next 2 seasons.. its the only reason shaq was able to rig his finals mvps by hogging vs inferior competition


then he went on to win 2 more titles without shaq to completely solidify his other 3 while shaqs only success was a 3rd option role player ring behind antoine walker while riding the bench behind alonzo mourning throughout the finals in 4th quarters while the refs rigged wade to the line 20 games a night to give him the most fraudulent title in league history behind only 2016 lebron


kobe never needed shaq. all he needed was a boarderline allstar 18ppg wingman... the 5th lowest rated 2nd option in title history behind only what bill walton, dennis johnson, rick barry and hakeem olajuwon had as sidekicks



and kobe did it twice ... he's the only guy in history with multiple titles without a top 75 all time sidekick


kobe bryant is the most skilled player of all time and cemented in the top 5-10 all time. and lebron is a total fraud falling faster than simon on a steep hill with no brakes



http://i.imgur.com/3xeHWBF.jpg


its over f*ckface


get a new hobby

[sportjames23]

He would exit the top 30, and it breaks my heart...

I, too, would be saddened. :(

[sportjames23]

Will still be a top 3 GOAT. Meanwhile, Brick will get kicked out of the top 20 by Curry and KD.


You seem extra triggered lately, my friend. Is everything well?

[FreezingTsmoove]

I have him #11 behind Tim Duncan... if he misses the playoffs that will be his permanent spot on my list. At that point there just isnt an argument for Bron over Tim Duncan

[TheCorporation]

This just in, MJ missed the playoffs twice with the Wizards so maybe we should push him out of top 5 :eek:

[TheCorporation]

You seem extra triggered lately, my friend. Is everything well?

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:

[Mr.GOAT2408]

Fringe top 15 before the season

Outside of the top 15 if he doesn't make the playoffs

East was a joke for most of his career, the West however is no joke

[aj1987]

You seem extra triggered lately, my friend. Is everything well?
You tell me, kiddo:

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

[eliteballer]

He's off the list entirely. ROIDS..