The problem for Kobe stans is Lebron has 3 FMVP

[Akrazotile]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif




Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era. So all they can really do is this


https://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4ca0acf98e8cb7c34fe04c6df82126/tumblr_ovarqeYQMi1vdbokmo1_400.gif

[Akrazotile]

Discuss.

[kennethgriffen]

3 finals MVP's from 3 fraudulent colluded big 3 seasons. 2 of which that had finals saving bail out shots, 1 from a fake lockout shortened season and i don't even need to bring out the league collusion with adam silver to suspend the other teams MVP at the time


kobe has 5 rings legit rings and saved shaq in 2000 game 7 vs portland leading the lakers in points, rebounds, assists and blocks. then again saving shaq in game 4 of the finals after he fouled out. had they lost that game they would have been down 3-2 going into game 6 since they also lost game 5


we all know how kobe dismantled portland/sacramento/sanantonio the next 2 seasons.. its the only reason shaq was able to rig his finals mvps by hogging vs inferior competition


then he went on to win 2 more titles without shaq to completely solidify his other 3 while shaqs only success was a 3rd option role player ring behind antoine walker while riding the bench behind alonzo mourning throughout the finals in 4th quarters while the refs rigged wade to the line 20 games a night to give him the most fraudulent title in league history behind only 2016 lebron


all kobe needed was a boarderline allstar 18ppg wingman... the 5th lowest rated 2nd option in title history behind only what bill walton, dennis johnson, rick barry and hakeem olajuwon had as sidekicks



and kobe did it twice ... he's the only guy in history with multiple titles without a top 75 all time sidekick


kobe bryant is the most skilled player of all time and cemented in the top 5-10 all time. and lebron is a total fraud falling faster than OP on a steep hill with no brakes



http://i.imgur.com/3xeHWBF.jpg


its over f*ckface


get a new hobby

[SouBeachTalents]

^ Holy shit :roll: Kenny mad triggered

[red1]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif


Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era. So all they can really do is this


https://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4ca0acf98e8cb7c34fe04c6df82126/tumblr_ovarqeYQMi1vdbokmo1_400.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif

[kennethgriffen]

^ Triggered :roll:


i actually just copy and pasted but it works for basically any thread simon makes

:lol

[red1]

^ Holy shit :roll: Kenny mad triggered
https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif

[TheCorporation]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/G3Z9B9Rd/tenor.gif





Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era. So all they can really do is this


https://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4ca0acf98e8cb7c34fe04c6df82126/tumblr_ovarqeYQMi1vdbokmo1_400.gif


https://i.postimg.cc/1RJhTjWT/49072b9bfbd69aceb5df99f94f79c2c9.gif

[Uncle Drew]

Kenny meltdowns are the best.

[kennethgriffen]

ok now heres some gifs that represent what lebron fans have to do to debate anyone


http://static.wixstatic.com/media/a53488_3fa6a17c0f704c9e9db6d637fe2a4645.gif



and then theres me



https://media.giphy.com/media/TlK63EtpY10gxfrJXa0/giphy.gif

[sportjames23]

a lot of LeStan nonsense

https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif

[TheCorporation]

https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:

[SouBeachTalents]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:
https://media.giphy.com/media/p0RDMJGgMXF96/giphy.gif

[SomeBlackDude]

Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era.

from le8 straight finals appearances (losing 2/3 of them) in litrally the worst conference in 'murrican pro sports history.

https://i.ibb.co/ncbBHr3/Pre-Merger-NBA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QMHfQc6n/The-West-Rises.jpg



to lefirst stint in an actual conference.


https://i.postimg.cc/zfgnD725/Lakers-10th-Seed.jpg

but you wanna talk about "watered down".




























































https://i.postimg.cc/MGVQJTXp/Jordan-Heartburn.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

16th season lebron dragging a scrub 40 win Lakers team to the 4th seed culminating in blowing out GSW on their home floor...


some conference :lol

[FKAri]

I'm a phaggit
http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qiu5j8.jpg

[kennethgriffen]

16th season lebron dragging a scrub 40 win Lakers team to the 4th seed culminating in blowing out GSW on their home floor...


some conference :lol


the 4th seed and the 10th seed were separated by 2 games at the time


stfu


where they at right now

:roll:

[SomeBlackDude]

16th season lebron dragging a scrub 40 win Lakers team to the 4th seed culminating in blowing out GSW on their home floor...


some conference :lol

at the beginning of december, lelakers had the 25-27th toughest opponent schedule in the league.

now...

https://i.postimg.cc/4dzVV1cG/NBA-Remaining-Schedule.jpg

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs/200.gif


where they at right now
:roll:

indeed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4)

https://i.postimg.cc/zfgnD725/Lakers-10th-Seed.jpg

[TheCorporation]

http://oi65.tinypic.com/2qiu5j8.jpg

Yikes

[LAmbruh]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif




Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era. So all they can really do is this


https://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4ca0acf98e8cb7c34fe04c6df82126/tumblr_ovarqeYQMi1vdbokmo1_400.gif
:roll: :roll:

[LAmbruh]

at the beginning of december, lelakers had the 25-27th toughest opponent schedule in the league.

now...



Dec 25th


https://i.postimg.cc/ncfh9JF6/sdfhfghdfgh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/fW9bbLNc/dghkkhjkujk.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



good try thou! :yaohappy:

[kennethgriffen]

i dunno if anyone here realizes this but all anyone has to say to beat a branvestite in a debate is say 3 for 9

[AirBonner]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:
How does he have a 100 less posts then 3 years ago? :wtf:

[red1]

james gang aka finals MVP gang

https://www.essence.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/1466429150/Lebron-and-Zhuri.jpg

[LAmbruh]

james gang aka finals MVP gang

https://www.essence.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/1466429150/Lebron-and-Zhuri.jpg
dat avy doe :roll:


https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif

[red1]

dat avy doe :roll:


https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfcD3tNV4AAoXnQ.jpg


it is what it is... facts is facts...

https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

at the beginning of december, lelakers had the 25-27th toughest opponent schedule in the league.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CompassionateTornAtlanticspadefish-size_restricted.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

Dec 25th


https://i.postimg.cc/ncfh9JF6/sdfhfghdfgh.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/fW9bbLNc/dghkkhjkujk.jpg (https://postimages.org/)



good try thou! :yaohappy:



Daz a tough pill to swallow, lol.


What will he do next? Lets see.

Its either goal shift or lie to himself :lol

[tpols]

It doesnt matter because the award doesnt automatically qualify one performance over another. For instance, Kobe's '01 run where he outperformed peak shaq was better than any of Lebron's... but he didnt get a FMVP for it.

[SouBeachTalents]

It doesnt matter because the award doesnt automatically qualify one performance over another. For instance, Kobe's '01 run where he outperformed peak shaq was better than any of Lebron's... but he didnt get a FMVP for it.
:whatever: C'mon now

[superduper]

:whatever: C'mon now

Dude. Kobe had more winshares than the MDE in his absolute peak.

Are we moving around goalposts now?

[ArbitraryWater]

It doesnt matter because the award doesnt automatically qualify one performance over another. For instance, Kobe's '01 run where he outperformed peak shaq was better than any of Lebron's... but he didnt get a FMVP for it.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/446c2f0d3d0cfbc039a71fd7d621e354/tenor.gif


I have another instance: LeBron's 09 run was better than any of Kobe's, just like LeBron's '12, '14, '15, '16, '17, '18 runs....


https://coubsecure-s.akamaihd.net/get/b154/p/coub/simple/cw_image/8a55096eccd/548daa4ed40f39564d2a2/med_1485104261_00032.jpg

[tpols]

you include three runs where Lebron leads a team that loses by record defeat, and one where he shoots worse than '04 kobe.. for a combined 4-16 record... saying there all better than '01 Kobe leading what was essentially the GOAT playoff run ?


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DependableGreenKoi-max-1mb.gif

[superduper]

you include three runs where Lebron leads a team that loses by record defeat, and one where he shoots worse than '04 kobe.. for a combined 4-16 record... saying there all better than '01 Kobe leading what was essentially the GOAT playoff run ?


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DependableGreenKoi-max-1mb.gif

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gifhttp://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gifhttp://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gifhttp://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gifhttp://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/OoOoo.gif

[TheCorporation]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfcD3tNV4AAoXnQ.jpg


it is what it is... facts is facts...

https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/hszloIMDCXIYw/giphy.gif

Wait where's Kobe?

[TheCorporation]

you include three runs where Lebron leads a team that loses by record defeat, and one where he shoots worse than '04 kobe.. for a combined 4-16 record... saying there all better than '01 Kobe leading what was essentially the GOAT playoff run ?


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DependableGreenKoi-max-1mb.gif

Whoa!! And STILL more FMVPs?!

[red1]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif
I'm seeing a LOT of this around these parts....

[ImKobe]

Finals MVPs is the only thing that matters now?

Lebron Playoff PPG in championship runs

2012 - 30 ppg
2013 & 2016 - 26 ppg

Kobe Playoff PPG in championship runs

2001 - 29 ppg
2002 - 27 ppg
2009 - 30 ppg
2010 - 29 ppg

Lebron's 2013 & 2016 championship runs are on par with two of Kobe's with Shaq, and we're comparing prime Lebron to 22 & 23 y.o Kobe. Lebron averaged 25 ppg on 42%FG at age 22 when he made the Finals vs Kobe's 29 ppg on 47%FG in the handcheck era at the same age.

[SamuraiSWISH]

And the problem for the 3-6 mafia is 3 rings, 2 of which were admittedly fluky, one which came in a lockout shortened season ... and the fact he's not respected by peers and legends like Kobe. And he's shunned by his hero and superior in Jordan unlike younger brother Kobe.

[SouBeachTalents]

Finals MVPs is the only thing that matters now?

Lebron Playoff PPG in championship runs

2012 - 30 ppg
2013 & 2016 - 26 ppg

Kobe Playoff PPG in championship runs

2001 - 29 ppg
2002 - 27 ppg
2009 - 30 ppg
2010 - 29 ppg

Lebron's 2013 & 2016 championship runs are on par with two of Kobe's with Shaq, and we're comparing prime Lebron to 22 & 23 y.o Kobe. Lebron averaged 25 ppg on 42%FG at age 22 when he made the Finals vs Kobe's 29 ppg on 47%FG in the handcheck era at the same age.
PPG is the only thing that matters now?

[ImKobe]

PPG is the only thing that matters now?

How does prime Lebron score less than a young Kobe in one of the lowest-scoring eras (if not the lowest) of the modern NBA history?

[SouBeachTalents]

How does prime Lebron score less than a young Kobe in one of the lowest-scoring eras (if not the lowest) of the modern NBA history?
Because he took more attempts & FT's per game :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

Because he took more attempts & FT's per game :confusedshrug:

Maybe it has something to do with Lebron being a poor shooter outside the paint? Sure, he's had a few decent years at shooting the 3 at a low rate for today's standards, but he's mostly been a terrible shooter for his career and that flaw was exposed for at least 5 straight Playoff runs (2007-11). Heck, he was even terrible outside the paint in 2012 (apart from that one game against Boston) and the Spurs literally left him wide open on his jumpshots which shut him down for half the series in the 2013 Finals.

Lebron's simply not as good as Kobe at scoring, he can exploit the defenses in today's era, but he didn't average 30+ppg in a single Finals until he started going up against the Warriors in this 3PT/no defense era and still has yet to average over 30 ppg in a Finals series that he won.

[Dray n Klay]

Maybe it has something to do with Lebron being a poor shooter outside the paint? Sure, he's had a few decent years at shooting the 3 at a low rate for today's standards, but he's mostly been a terrible shooter for his career and that flaw was exposed for at least 5 straight Playoff runs (2007-11). Heck, he was even terrible outside the paint in 2012 (apart from that one game against Boston) and the Spurs literally left him wide open on his jumpshots which shut him down for half the series in the 2013 Finals.

Lebron's simply not as good as Kobe at scoring, he can exploit the defenses in today's era, but he didn't average 30+ppg in a single Finals until he started going up against the Warriors in this 3PT/no defense era and still has yet to average over 30 ppg in a Finals series that he won.


LeBron had double the 40 point Finals in 2016 as Kobe

[SamuraiSWISH]

and the Spurs literally left him wide open on his jumpshots which shut him down for half the series in the 2013 Finals.
Half? He didn't hit those wide open jumpers until game 7

[TheCorporation]

Maybe it has something to do with Lebron being a poor shooter outside the paint? Sure, he's had a few decent years at shooting the 3 at a low rate for today's standards, but he's mostly been a terrible shooter for his career and that flaw was exposed for at least 5 straight Playoff runs (2007-11). Heck, he was even terrible outside the paint in 2012 (apart from that one game against Boston) and the Spurs literally left him wide open on his jumpshots which shut him down for half the series in the 2013 Finals.

Lebron's simply not as good as Kobe at scoring, he can exploit the defenses in today's era, but he didn't average 30+ppg in a single Finals until he started going up against the Warriors in this 3PT/no defense era and still has yet to average over 30 ppg in a Finals series that he won.

Sorry for this. Goodnight sweet prince

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

[34-24 Footwork]

Half? He didn't hit those wide open jumpers until game 7

this. that disrespectful shit was a game away from working :lol

[ImKobe]

Half? He didn't hit those wide open jumpers until game 7

I was being light on him, Lebron was terrible at scoring for 5 out of the first 6 games, but he was really a non-factor at it in the first three games, didn't even crack 20 points and was held to 16 ppg on 38%FG at his damn peak.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol @ Southbeachtalents & Arbitrarywater and all of the life-long Lebron stans congregating in one thread.


What's worse is that these guy want us to believe that they watch western conference basketball :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

Lol @ Southbeachtalents & Arbitrarywater and all of the life-long Lebron stans congregating in one thread.


What's worse is that these guy want us to believe that they watch western conference basketball :oldlol:

You too?

Sorry for this. Goodnight sweet prince

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

[34-24 Footwork]

Bron stans in shambles. spamming pictures all day :oldlol:

[TheCorporation]

Bron stans in shambles. spamming pictures all day :oldlol:

Only the facts sweet prince

[Mr.GOAT2408]

Ray Allen was the main reason they won in 2013 and Kyrie's shot / Green suspension was the main reason for 2016, otherwise he would be 1 - 9 despite the constant colluding that gives LeBron an unfair advantage in winning rings... and yet he still only has 3 rings...

I'll give him props for 2012, that's still 1 less than Kobe who had a worse supporting cast when he won his 2 finals MVPs and whose contributions on the first 3 titles was basically 1 finals MVP in its own right, at minimum.

That was easy, nice try m8

[Akrazotile]

ump bae

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

I mean....

[FultzNationRISE]

Discuss.



:lebronamazed:

[Turbo Slayer]

Kobe stans is :(

[scuzzy]

So to argue Kobe is better, they basically have to do this


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CarefulFarflungCarpenterant-small.gif




Meanwhile the problem for MJ stans is he won in a MUCH weaker/watered down era. So all they can really do is this


https://66.media.tumblr.com/ff4ca0acf98e8cb7c34fe04c6df82126/tumblr_ovarqeYQMi1vdbokmo1_400.gif
:yaohappy: :hammertime:

[Da_Realist]

You too?

Sorry for this. Goodnight sweet prince

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg

Yeah but when Kobe directly challenged him LeBron didn't step up. The way Kobe shut down LeBron at 34 years old makes me wonder if the stats are truly telling the whole story.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18rzY1jK30Q

[sportjames23]

Yeah but when Kobe directly challenged him LeBron didn't step up. The way Kobe shut down LeBron at 34 years old makes me wonder if the stats are truly telling the whole story.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18rzY1jK30Q




GOT




HIM

[red1]

body after body after body after body


corpse on corpse on corpse -how many of these kobe stan rats are we gonna slay?



got 9erempire kennygriffin airtupac and that phong bitch right here

http://www.aaanimalcontrol.com/professional-trapper/gallery/rat022.jpg

[Rico2016]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTqLqW76/SportJamesOwned.png

:no:


Wow

[Rico2016]

Sorry for this. Goodnight sweet prince

https://i.postimg.cc/QtTcRFL4/FB_IMG_1528921326607.jpg


Shocking

[RoseCity07]

Man Kobe stans having a bad decade.:lol

[AirBonner]

The other problem for kobestans is that Kobe wa 6-16 vs LeThick

[LAmbruh]

The other problem for kobestans is that Kobe wa 6-16 vs LeThick
and that is what we call a 'mic drop'

[Kiddlovesnets]

Not only that, Lebron has won 2 double-MVPs(MVP + FMVP) in his career. Every top 10 greatest player in NBA history has done that, except Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain when the FMVP wasnt a thing until their late career:

MJ: 4(1991, 1992, 1996, 1998)
Lebron: 2(2012, 2013)
Bird: 2(1984, 1986)
Magic: 1(1987)
Kareem: 1(1971)
Duncan: 1(2003)
Shaq: 1(2000)
Hakeem: 1(1994)

This is the reason why Kobe is not a top 10 player of all time, 'cause he doesnt have such a dominant season of his own. This implies that Kobe was never the clear cut best player in any season.

Kobe was the best player only in 2008, and even this was questionable since CP3 came close(hence why its not clear cut). In 2009 it was a toss up between him and Lebron, but the latter had a slight edge. Other than these 2 years, not even close.

To summarize, Kobe is just not a dominant player, and theres a good reason why hes the 12th greatest player of all time, never ever a top 10.

[And1AllDay]

and that is what we call a 'mic drop'

big fax