Why didn

[iamgine]

Has this ever been explained? Perhaps he didn't really want the wall and now democrats are providing him the excuse?

[Patrick Chewing]

You see, Trump is actually not the one that builds the wall. Nor is he the one that makes laws and/or bills. So asking why Trump didn't build the wall is illogical.

[TheMan]

Has this ever been explained? Perhaps he didn't really want the wall and now democrats are providing him the excuse?
/thread

Just to add to that, he knows his base is full of dumbasses with zero memory so he wants to run of that issue in 2020 also.

[TheMan]

You see, Trump is actually not the one that builds the wall. Nor is he the one that makes laws and/or bills. So asking why Trump didn't build the wall is illogical.
But if Trump really wanted a wall, he could've used the bully pulpit to get the GOP congress to pass a bill funding the wall on a straight party line vote...if he really did want a wall though :confusedshrug:

Stop playing dumb, Pat

[Derka]

Has nothing to do with securing our nation and everything to do with painting Democrats as weak on border security in the 2020 election by scaring weak-minded white folks.

[highwhey]

it's going to be his platform for re-election.

[Patrick Chewing]

But if Trump really wanted a wall, he could've use the bully pulpit to get the GOP congress to pass a bill funding the wall on straight party line vote...if he really did want a wall :confusedshrug:

Stop playing dumb, Pat


The GOP is full of weasels and never-trumpers. The GOP has never been a robotic party like the Democrats where they all say and do the same thing in unison.


In the grand scheme of things, this fight over the wall is just a minuscule thing as Trump is only asking for a minuscule amount of money. The reason why Dems are up in arms about this is because a wall being built is a campaign promise to the Republican voter and a sure fire re-election for Trump in 2020. Another reason why the Dems care so much about this minuscule issue is they want to appeal to those people coming across the border. Which in turn means potential voters down the line. If you can't see this, then you're an idiot.

Again, the Dems just care about obstruction at this point. Anything they can do to obstruct Donald Trump is a victory in their eyes. All these Dems wanted a wall and better border security before Trump went into office. You people are allowing yourselves to get fooled by these Dems. You have to be smarter.

[TheMan]

The GOP is full of weasels and never-trumpers. The GOP has never been a robotic party like the Democrats where they all say and do the same thing in unison.


In the grand scheme of things, this fight over the wall is just a minuscule thing as Trump is only asking for a minuscule amount of money. The reason why Dems are up in arms about this is because a wall being built is a campaign promise to the Republican voter and a sure fire re-election for Trump in 2020. Another reason why the Dems care so much about this minuscule issue is they want to appeal to those people coming across the border. Which in turn means potential voters down the line. If you can't see this, then you're an idiot.

Again, the Dems just care about obstruction at this point. Anything they can do to obstruct Donald Trump is a victory in their eyes. All these Dems wanted a wall and better border security before Trump went into office. You people are allowing yourselves to get fooled by these Dems. You have to be smarter.
:roll:

Bruh, excuses excuses and flat out bullshit :facepalm

If Trump truly believed border security is a national emergency as he now claims, he could have easily cajoled his party to vote for a wall. He is popular with the GOP base and Republicans opposing his wall would get the wrath from the leader of the party and risk being primaried by a Trumptard :facepalm Had he really wanted a wall, he could've gotten the funding for it. Truth is, he really doesn't care and is now only using it for political expediency.

I don't want to believe you're this naive/dumb, Patty :(

[dude77]

because the gop and dems work in cahoots .. do we really need to ask this ? :facepalm remember that trump is a glitch .. he's not supposed to be where he is right now .. it's supposed to be hillary clinton

[Patrick Chewing]

:roll:

Bruh, excuses excuses and flat out bullshit :facepalm

If Trump truly believed border security is a national emergency as he now claims, he could have easily cajoled his party to vote for a wall. He is popular with the GOP base and Republicans opposing his wall would get the wrath from the leader of the party and risk being primaried by a Trumptard :facepalm Had he really wanted a wall, he could've gotten the funding for it. Truth is, he really doesn't care and is now only using it for political expediency.

I don't want to believe you're thus naive/dumb, Patty :(


It's not an excuse. It's the best reason I can give you. I don't know why unless you ask the President himself and those within the GOP. But you cannot deny that there are plenty of members within the Senate and the House that do not agree with the President, yet pretend they are for Conservative causes.

Who knows, maybe it was a ploy to wait until after the midterms to show the American people how much of an obstructionist party the Democrats really are. The first mistake anyone can make is to assume that Donald Trump is not a smart man.

[tpols]

He was too busy working on a failed healthcare plan.

[TheMan]

because the gop and dems work in cahoots .. do we really need to ask this ? :facepalm remember that trump is a glitch .. he's not supposed to be where he is right now .. it's supposed to be hillary clinton
I could get behind this.

Both party's establishments do not have the best interests of the American people as their top priority.

[Derka]

It's not an excuse. It's the best reason I can give you. I don't know why unless you ask the President himself and those within the GOP. But you cannot deny that there are plenty of members within the Senate and the House that do not agree with the President, yet pretend they are for Conservative causes.

Who knows, maybe it was a ploy to wait until after the midterms to show the American people how much of an obstructionist party the Democrats really are. The first mistake anyone can make is to assume that Donald Trump is not a smart man.
What's funny is how many of you have been fooled into believing Donald Trump is a real conservative.

[Akrazotile]

The real question is why doesn't the left understand the importance of immigration control?

Every other developed nation has MUCH more stringent standards. And thus stronger wealth parity.

The left has been successfully brainwashed into equating anything regarding immigration as "racist."

"Racist" is the new Salem witch trials, the new McCarthyism. It's the dividing line for all the simple, insecure dummies of society to have a concrete thing they can say "I'm on the good side" of. While the racists are the evil boogieman, outside the mainstream where viability is murky and unclear, tenuous. Simple people never have to risk being on the outside due to their own weakness, awkwardness, patheticness, etc. As long as "the REALLY bad thing in society is to be the racist!" It's a simple, LCD litmus test for the pathetic and cuckolding masses.

Politicians who want cheap labor and more soldiers can simply shout "RAAAAACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" if anyone gets in their way, and the Dembot sheep will coming run in to shut down any issue.

:(

[BigKobeFan]

You need a super majority u retard

[Kblaze8855]

But you cannot deny that there are plenty of members within the Senate and the House that do not agree with the President, yet pretend they are for Conservative causes.

The president is a fiscally conservative moderate if not downright democrat who made up new positions to appeal to people he knew he needed. Plenty of serious lifetime conservatives opposed trump and that doesnt make them non conservative. Im sure they know what he was doing. And so do you. Nobody goes from totally utterly pro choice in his 60s to acting like a soldier for the lord against abortions without a reason.

That said....

Republicans would have needed democrat votes in the senate they never would have been able to get. But it was even harder after they lost the house. Theres no reason to try over the last few months but not on day one in 2017.

[NumberSix]

Plenty of serious lifetime conservatives opposed trump and that doesnt make them non conservative.
Well, neo-cons oppose Trump and they genuinely aren’t conservatives.

[LostCause]

The responses here are hilarious, lots of dodging and diverting away from the simple question asked to bring g it "lol Democrats"

Simple answer is he didn't want to. That's it. Point blank period. He knows it was a huge selling point for his campaign and he'll continue to milk that until the jig is up. Has nothing to do with Dems, has everything to do with putting a carrot on a stick and leading his blind followers who still actually believe he cares about that issue

Stop being morons. You're not a dreaded libtard just because you recognize this is all for show and he didn't seriously want to do it, so be honest with yourselves

[Akrazotile]

The president is a fiscally conservative moderate if not downright democrat who made up new positions to appeal to people he knew he needed. Plenty of serious lifetime conservatives opposed trump and that doesnt make them non conservative. Im sure they know what he was doing. And so do you. Nobody goes from totally utterly pro choice in his 60s to acting like a soldier for the lord against abortions without a reason.

That said....

Republicans would have needed democrat votes in the senate they never would have been able to get. But it was even harder after they lost the house. Theres no reason to try over the last few months but not on day one in 2017.


(If I'm not mistaken) you're on the record as saying immigration isn't even an issue, correct? Even 'theoretical' immigration in greater numbers. You know immigrants in your personal life and they're good people, so it doesn't really matter how many show up or how they get here or if they're accounted for etc. right?

Also I'm not trying to generalize your opinions, I actually recall you saying specifically that a few years back. I assume you feel the same still, yes? I have to assume anyone who actually cares about the issue would talk more about the issue itself than Trump.

But you tend to talk more about Trump. So I just wanna make sure I understand your position.

[Hawker]

But if Trump really wanted a wall, he could've used the bully pulpit to get the GOP congress to pass a bill funding the wall on a straight party line vote...if he really did want a wall though :confusedshrug:

Stop playing dumb, Pat

When did the GOP have 60 votes to break a filibuster?

[bladefd]

When did the GOP have 60 votes to break a filibuster?

How is trying to force pass funding for the wall now with majority Democrats in House going to garner different results? What is the desire to even attempt it now right around the time Democrats were preparing to take the House?

[Kblaze8855]

(If I'm not mistaken) you're on the record as saying immigration isn't even an issue, correct? Even 'theoretical' immigration in greater numbers. You know immigrants in your personal life and they're good people, so it doesn't really matter how many show up or how they get here or if they're accounted for etc. right?

Also I'm not trying to generalize your opinions, I actually recall you saying specifically that a few years back. I assume you feel the same still, yes? I have to assume anyone who actually cares about the issue would talk more about the issue itself than Trump.

But you tend to talk more about Trump. So I just wanna make sure I understand your position.


Not an issue? No.

Ive spoken on the issue of illegals and the morality of their decision. Ive said I dont have a problem man to man...with another father doing whats best for his kids. Just because we moved the mexicans and have the military power to keep the line where it is doesnt mean I have any more moral right to be here than anyone. America is here due to military power...which has nothing to do with right and wrong. So on the issue of right and wrong....im not concerned. I dont think the law is there to determine whats morally right all the time. It mostly enforces the will of the people.

"Dont touch my stuff" is like 80% of the law and people feel they have a right to all this countries stuff. Which is a valid point of view....I just dont see it as a matter of morals. The real world isnt right and wrong. Its powerful and weak. I dont see the weak trying to get some of what the powerful have as automatically wrong if they dont follow the powerful peoples rules. The powerful only get that way by making their own rules. Usually in bloody fashion when it comes to countries.

That doesnt mean there arent common sense issues of security to consider.

But nothing about a wall really changes those. I want terrorists kept out. I also know a wall we build with massive gaps for natural barriers doesnt stop an international terrorist organization....and if it did...they would just go to canada and walk across in vermont where the border is in the middle of a neighborhood and literally a line in the street.

The international people I fear are not stopped by a fence. These people can bring down sky scrapers and militarize our own weak minded Americans over the internet like a Jedi mind trick.

Drugs are too profitable to be stopped by a fence. They will get in like they always did. If its harder...they will just cost more. And an addict will then pay 30 bucks for crack instead of 20. Whats he gonna do? Quit?

You cant stop terrorism with a fence...nor can you stop drugs. When billionaires are on both sides wanting shit they dig tunnels that are air conditioned. Nobody international I fear...gives a shit about a fence.

An informed person...even an idiot who did some reading...knows you dont stop real danger with a fence. Its symbol...for a lot of money.

Not interested.

Im not interested in a lot of government waste programs. If one of them got into public discussion you would hear me speak on them more.

Im not behind congress building hundreds of millions of dollars of tanks the Army requests not to be burdened with just because shutting down the tank factory would cost jobs in some douchebags district.

Im against the government building million dollar homeless shelters for Native americans then not letting homeless people use them.

Im against the coast guard having its own intelligence agency to investigate the same people ICE, the normal cops, the FBI, and DEA are already after. There are so many redundant law enforcement agencies working so poorly together its not even unusual for one to bust a sting the other is running.

Im against a lot of shit. But people dont wanna hear about it. People have opinions about Trump and the wall. So here we are. Talking about it.

Make a topic on us spending 2 billion a year to maintain empty federal properties(cut the grass....keep the pipes insulated..wash windows) instead of allowing the states to make use or better yet...lease them on the cheap to people looking to start a business.

Make that topic. You might hear from me in it. For now?

This is what we got. Read the title. Read the subject matter in every topic on immigration. The discussion is about Trump and his doings/desires. I talk about the subject matter. Trump is the subject matter in these topics.

[Jasper]

Took 2 years for trump to figure out how our government works

[tpols]

When did the GOP have 60 votes to break a filibuster?


with a senate majority they couldnt even get 50 votes on their most important platforms so that point is moot.

[Akrazotile]

Okay, so kblaze, we agree:

- It's not an issue of morals, or about judging people who immigrate here.

- It's not in the best interest of America to allow undocumented movement across the border.

- A wall alone isn't going to simply stop the problem.


So where do we DISAGREE?

I think it's a travesty that states like California give driver licenses to illegals, as well as provide entitlement programs, tuition, etc. and basically market themselves as a haven for illegal residence/activity.

Do you agree or disagree?

I'm just trying to find something we disagree on. I think if a significant majority of both 'sides' of the political aisle are in agreement, we could actually pressure Congress and the president to get useful action taken.

It feels like Americans think they disagree on this issue, because we're so used to disagreeing, when we actually may not.

Where do you suppose you and I might differ on immigration, based on what you've heard me say? Anywhere?

[SomeBlackDude]

took mexico longer than expected to gather up the down payment.

also, nancy pelosi as a scapegoat is a much better strategy than admitting to a half-baked, nonsensical idea.

[diamenz]

illegal immigration is at an all time low, and there's no arguing that. that's not to say it isn't a legitimate issue, but it's all political bullshit from both trump and the dems. it's what's gonna be the talking point in 2020, so neither side will budge. if this guy was really the master deal maker that he claims to be and was genuine about improving border security, he'll get real about working with democrats in a reasonable manner. dems need to just approach and sit down with trump. i think he can be reasonable if u can charm him enough. i'm not taking sides here - dems need to be reasonable as well.

a simple WALL ain't gonna work. resources, technology and walls WHERE THEY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE would work. all i ever hear from trump is WALL GOOD. for some reason i don't think he has a clue about the real problem areas and their geography, or just statistics in general. 'FAKE NEWS' if it doesn't suit his agenda.

[Akrazotile]

took mexico longer than expected to gather up the down payment.

also, nancy pelosi as a scapegoat is a much better strategy than admitting to a half-baked, nonsensical idea.


I've never loved the wall for environmental reasons, but I don't see what is nonsensical or half-baked about it in concept.

Are you talking about the engineering aspect? We have oil pipelines criss-crossing the country. And telephone poles. We have aircraft that can break the speed of sound. I'm pretty sure we can build a wall on less than perfect terrain.

Or you think it won't deter immigration AT ALL? Plenty of people cross the border by land. Parents send their kids skidaddling across it. It won't stop immigration in its tracks but it will definitely stop some of it. If more people "smuggle" themselves in by car or boat or tunnel, it'll be easier to spot and catch.


What part of it is half baked or nonsense?

[Akrazotile]

Funny thing is the wall is EXACTLY the kind of government initiative the left typically favors. Tax-payer funded, cost-inefficient construction that creates lots of temporary jobs.

But NOW they're suddenly all concerned about cost margins and feasibility reports and scheduling :lol

Let me remind you what California's 90 billion dollar bullet train looks like currently:

http://oi65.tinypic.com/o0yn4o.jpg




California libs: "But the wall isn't a cost-efficient investment!"

Translation: Baaaa "Trump!" baaaaa "racists!!!!"



:facepalm

[Hawker]

with a senate majority they couldnt even get 50 votes on their most important platforms so that point is moot.

Then so is repeating the point that the GOP controller Congress. It’s just not true.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHU3f0lYFd/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1j5o9zq8h2r60

Wall’s looking sweet. (Inb4thatsafence)

[highwhey]

took mexico longer than expected to gather up the down payment.

also, nancy pelosi as a scapegoat is a much better strategy than admitting to a half-baked, nonsensical idea.
https://i.postimg.cc/C1nHhH21/mjlol.png

[tpols]

[QUOTE=Hawker]Then so is repeating the point that the GOP controller Congress. It

[Hawker]

They had a 51+ majority in the senate and an even bigger margin in the house at the beginning of trump's term. That they controlled congress is an undeniable fact since... they had majorities in both partitions. Their big bills were shot down by their own members (repeal obamaaaacare!)


Trump has probably done more to stop hispanics coming here with his mouth and fingers than any wall could ever do. They obviously hate him and feel less welcome to come here. All the drug and violence talk, the big players are getting shit in regardless. 95% of drugs come in pallets at shipping docks, are broken up and distributed locally by FedEx, UPS, and USPS all over the country. As kblaze said, any big time international players arent being fazed by a wall. It will just create more job opportunity for their associates to scheme on the bypass.

Yeah so it didn

[Kblaze8855]

I think it's a travesty that states like California give driver licenses to illegals, as well as provide entitlement programs, tuition, etc. and basically market themselves as a haven for illegal residence/activity.

Do you agree or disagree?

Thats where I feel we cross over from actual problems(Terrorists....criminals in general) into problems in principle that are more about how they make people....feeeeel.

An illegal father of 3 who has the money for a truck isnt gonna just not get one because you dont give hi ma license. Hes gonna get it so he can get to work. Hes gonna drive it without a license....hes gonna drive it without insurance. Not giving illegals a license is like teaching abstinence only or banning guns.

If they listened and everyone complied would it work? Sure. But teenagers want sex and criminals wont give up guns so lets live in the real world.

And entitlements? Aid?

Im....not so worried about a 4 year old getting some juice on my dime even if her parents brought her here illegally. She didnt make that decision. Im ok with her getting to eat good meals and be educated in our schools and all. Im not shitting on the kid for the parents decision. Plus...a lot of the kids who benefit from such things are born here.

The parents are the issue...and im not that happy with most adults on significant aid longterm legal or not. Thats another in the "I see why you dont like it....but whats the solution?" pile. The people are here. More will get here.

Should I be in favor of not giving poor people a meal because if we stop feeding them they are less likely to come? They arent stray cats. But a lot of states feel that way about the illegals and even the homeless legal or not. They really do get bused to california because cali will take care of them even as it ruins them. I dont know if im gonna make an abundance of generosity out to be a negative even if it isnt financially wise. That comes down to politicians. If they keep voting them in...what then? Democracy only works when people agree with you? Leaning towards top down federal enforcement at the expense of states rights? Bit of a slippery slope for some conservatives.

And even if I didnt care about the adults...im not taking food from a 7 year old because his mom might get in on it.

What programs specifically are you upset about?

In state tuition seems like a big one for you but really....I feel like the young immigrants going to college are not likely to be the most problematic ones. Id imagine your stance is they are taking what rightfully belongs to an American kid but being real...

If after a full life in America you cant beat that El Salvadoran kid out who didnt learn the language till he was 9 hes probably going harder than you.

Im more concerned about safety issues than these.

And nobody who I have a real fear of is gonna even be slowed down by a fence. A plane ticket from Mexico city to Calgary is 290 bucks.

This is the border between Montana and Alberta:


http://i68.tinypic.com/zjgfok.jpg



http://i65.tinypic.com/1jw7sz.jpg



http://i66.tinypic.com/11algs3.jpg




Seems our zone defense has a blind spot or two.



The 300 bucks stop a poor family? Sure. Stop a terrorist who likely already got to north america from thousands of miles away? Major drug dealers?


Not so much.

There is a baseline level of danger we cant get rid of and im not sure what a wall does to help. The people who are real threats dont need to walk in. This is about the poor people and the real threats are nothing but cover to not be called cruel. Even if it isnt morally wrong to stop people at your border....without the cover provided by the boogeymen who this wont even phase...you look a bit uncaring if you have to focus on the family just trying to get a better life

[Akrazotile]

Thats where I feel we cross over from actual problems(Terrorists....criminals in general) into problems in principle that are more about how they make people....feeeeel.

An illegal father of 3 who has the money for a truck isnt gonna just not get one because you dont give hi ma license. Hes gonna get it so he can get to work. Hes gonna drive it without a license....hes gonna drive it without insurance. Not giving illegals a license is like teaching abstinence only or banning guns.

If they listened and everyone complied would it work? Sure. But teenagers want sex and criminals wont give up guns so lets live in the real world.

And entitlements? Aid?

Im....not so worried about a 4 year old getting some juice on my dime even if her parents brought her here illegally. She didnt make that decision. Im ok with her getting to eat good meals and be educated in our schools and all. Im not shitting on the kid for the parents decision. Plus...a lot of the kids who benefit from such things are born here.

The parents are the issue...and im not that happy with most adults on significant aid longterm legal or not. Thats another in the "I see why you dont like it....but whats the solution?" pile. The people are here. More will get here.

Should I be in favor of not giving poor people a meal because if we stop feeding them they are less likely to come? They arent stray cats. But a lot of states feel that way about the illegals and even the homeless legal or not. They really do get bused to california because cali will take care of them even as it ruins them. I dont know if im gonna make an abundance of generosity out to be a negative even if it isnt financially wise. That comes down to politicians. If they keep voting them in...what then? Democracy only works when people agree with you? Leaning towards top down federal enforcement at the expense of states rights? Bit of a slippery slope for some conservatives.



How much did you drop in stalker’s gofundme when he needed a car to shuttle his family around?

When I have a kid, will you send me some cash?

Will you send all the income you dont need for basic necessities to help underprivileged kids in Mexico?



When you say “I dont care if a kid gets some juice on my dime”.... that’s pretty broad. And it’s an easy thing to say, because I cant show up and enforce all the scenarios listed above on you.

But a government kind of has to be realistic and specific. What if twice as many immigrants show up next year?

Feed em?

What about four times as many the following year?

Feed em?

Where do you even hypothetically draw the line?


Sadly, I know te answer is nowhere, which is why I wont argue any further with you. You dont discuss issues in good faith, youll just drop 20 more paragraphs of misdirection to avoid giving a logical answer or admitting youre a hypocrite.

Pathetic.


“Yo, I dont even care if a kid gets a hot meal on my dime man.”


Omg dude youre so generous! You must really impress all the low IQ shmucks in real life when you drop pearls like that..

[Kblaze8855]

Well I see the time for reasonable discussion between two people acting like adults has ended. This is exactly why none of these issues will ever get solved.

If civility is dead among people talking with no stakes how can we expect it from people with votes to count and a career on the line? You cant even get a real feel for what the other side thinks because eventually someone has to act like a jackass and then everyone's on defense.

[Akrazotile]

Well I see the time for reasonable discussion between two people acting like adults has ended. This is exactly why none of these issues will ever get solved.

If civility is dead among people talking with no stakes how can we expect it from people with votes to count and a career on the line? You cant even get a real feel for what the other side thinks because eventually someone has to act like a jackass and then everyone's on defense.


My general M.O. is to only be civil with people who arent willfully ignorant.

I cant get straight, intelligent answers with you because youre afraid of where Im going with them. If you agree with too many of my premises youre afraid youll fall into a logical trap down the road where you have to agree with something uncomfortable or counter to your stated views.

You refuse to acknowledge even basic, clear, obvious logic because you cant see far enough ahead to know where the argument will go. And youre scared. So you just stick with stubborn and stupid, but youre also proud, so you try and disguise it in a million paragraphs of homespun anecdotes about how this relates to something that happened just the other day in your life blah blah blah.

You cant play chess, and you cant ADMIT you cant play chess.



Sad!

[Pointguard]

He's need a war to win the second term. Its going to be a South American country (likely Venezuela) as it will take away focus on the Poot. Then his Wall seems like a brilliant idea. Plus, his infomercial can claim he has construct you can see from space, sobeit, drone height.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump felt it was more important to give himself a tax cut in the first year.
He did not give a damn what the rubes in his base thought.

[Kblaze8855]

My general M.O. is to only be civil with people who arent willfully ignorant.

I cant get straight, intelligent answers with you because youre afraid of where Im going with them. If you agree with too many of my premises youre afraid youll fall into a logical trap down the road where you have to agree with something uncomfortable or counter to your stated views.

You refuse to acknowledge even basic, clear, obvious logic because you cant see far enough ahead to know where the argument will go. And youre scared. So you just stick with stubborn and stupid, but youre also proud, so you try and disguise it in a million paragraphs of homespun anecdotes about how this relates to something that happened just the other day in your life blah blah blah.

You cant play chess, and you cant ADMIT you cant play chess.



Sad!


You are....pretty ridiculous. I wont make the mistake of assuming you have normal human conversation in you again.

[Dro]

You are....pretty ridiculous. I wont make the mistake of assuming you have normal human conversation in you again.
I'm shocked you guys haven't figured this out yet about these fools on here. I wonder why you guys keep engaging them expecting to have a rational discussion. Save yourself the frustration and just ignore them.:confusedshrug:

I love being an introvert. Its so easy to ignore people.

[diamenz]

I'm shocked you guys haven't figured this out yet about these fools on here. I wonder why you guys keep engaging them expecting to have a rational discussion. Save yourself the frustration and just ignore them.:confusedshrug:

I love being an introvert. Its so easy to ignore people.

rings even more true in the nba forum. there was lvl headed talk about banning the most extreme trolls there, but the thread's disappeared. where could it have possibly gone?