Why did Malone/Stockton Jazz win 0 rings?

[TheCorporation]

The almighty powerful Duo of Karl Malone and John Stockton play Twenty Years together all throughout their entire primes and were able to muster up two finals appearances and 0 championships. Was this the best competition Jordan ever faced?

Can you imagine two players playing together in their prime for 20 years that have zero rings and two finals appearances?

I already know you are going to say they lost to Jordan but what about why didn't they even make a finals appearance in 94 or 95 or 96? 99? 00? 01?

Is a two-time finals appearance team the best Jordan ever faced?

[knicksman]

coz they faced jordan instead of lebron

[And1AllDay]

coz they faced jordan instead of lebron
Mike was on the Chicago White Sox in 94 homie and in 95 he got knocked out in the second round then he left again from 99 onward so what happened

[Xiao Yao You]

Cheap owner
Choking Karl
Too unselfish Stockton
Overrated head coach

[TheCorporation]

Mike was on the Chicago White Sox in 94 homie and in 95 he got knocked out in the second round then he left again from 99 onward so what happened

Duh Mr. High-standards Knicksfan :lol

[TheCorporation]

Cheap owner
Choking Karl
Too unselfish Stockton
Overrated head coach

Good answers, thank you sir :cheers:

[knicksman]

Mike was on the Chicago White Sox in 94 homie and in 95 he got knocked out in the second round then he left again from 99 onward so what happened

still though. Theres a massive difference between a guy who never lost in the finals to a guy who makes role players finals mvp:lol

[Manny98]

still though. Theres a massive difference between a guy who never lost in the first round to a guy who got swept in the first round 3 times
Agreed

[TheCorporation]

Agreed

:eek: :applause:

The MJ special

"I'll take three 1st round sweeps, please."

[bullettooth]

coz they faced jordan instead of lebron

Rekt on the first reply.

[TheCorporation]

Rekt on the first reply.

You probably didn't know this but Jordan didnt play for the Bulls in 94, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03 and didnt make the Finals in 95.

The Jazz also didn't make the Finals in 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93,

I think (and hope) you get the point.

[bullettooth]

You probably didn't know this but Jordan didnt play for the Bulls in 94, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03 and didnt make the Finals in 95.

The Jazz also didn't make the Finals in 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93,

I think (and hope) you get the point.

Do you pretend to be stupid outside of internet forums?

[iamgine]

In reality, the best team Jordan faced was before his team was good. Like when he dropped 63 on '86 Boston.

[Bronbron23]

The almighty powerful Duo of Karl Malone and John Stockton play Twenty Years together all throughout their entire primes and were able to muster up two finals appearances and 0 championships. Was this the best competition Jordan ever faced?

Can you imagine two players playing together in their prime for 20 years that have zero rings and two finals appearances?

I already know you are going to say they lost to Jordan but what about why didn't they even make a finals appearance in 94 or 95 or 96? 99? 00? 01?

Is a two-time finals appearance team the best Jordan ever faced?
Because the west and the east were really good and guys didn't collude so the league was more even.

When we're they supposed to win a chip anyway? In the late 80's against lakers, pistons and Celtics. In the 90's vs bulls or Houston?

[Gotterdammerung]

Cuz I watched the playoffs in the 90s, I can safely say the following:

The Jazz was a great halfcourt team that beat up on weak sisters in the Western Conference every year, after they pushed the Lakers to 7 games in a near-upset in the 88 playoffs. But ever since that year, they had been overrated - their efficient halfcourt offense wasn't effective in the playoffs because that is when everyone steps up and plays over their heads, pushing themselves to another level.

The Jazz were routinely beaten by more athletic teams that disrupted their precision timed offense like the Blazers in 92 West finals, or upset in the first round by hot shooting teams like the Warriors in 91 or ultra-clutch teams like the Rockets in the 95 playoffs. Almost every year up until the 98 Finals, the Jazz kept choking because they could never really exceed their standard play established in the regular season.

Stockton and Malone ran off of turnovers, which is why they could beat talented but undisciplined teams like the 98 Lakers, but if they faced a veteran opponent careful with the ball, their halfcourt became predictable, and Malone kept taking low percentage shots if he wasn't getting to the line. Stockton had no extra gear of taking over. And the rest of the team wasn't talented enough to adjust. Blue Edwards? Jeff Malone? David Benoit? Shandon Anderson?? :oldlol:

Plus Sloan was a good coach but he could never adjust if things weren't working. Strictly a one-note operator who coached the same way he played in the 70s. Hit the wall with your head until it crumbles.
:rolleyes:

[Xiao Yao You]

Cuz I watched the playoffs in the 90s, I can safely say the following:

The Jazz was a great halfcourt team that beat up on weak sisters in the Western Conference every year, after they pushed the Lakers to 7 games in a near-upset in the 88 playoffs. But ever since that year, they had been overrated - their efficient halfcourt offense wasn't effective in the playoffs because that is when everyone steps up and plays over their heads, pushing themselves to another level.

The Jazz were routinely beaten by more athletic teams that disrupted their precision timed offense like the Blazers in 92 West finals, or upset in the first round by hot shooting teams like the Warriors in 91 or ultra-clutch teams like the Rockets in the 95 playoffs. Almost every year up until the 98 Finals, the Jazz kept choking because they could never really exceed their standard play established in the regular season.

Stockton and Malone ran off of turnovers, which is why they could beat talented but undisciplined teams like the 98 Lakers, but if they faced a veteran opponent careful with the ball, their halfcourt became predictable, and Malone kept taking low percentage shots if he wasn't getting to the line. Stockton had no extra gear of taking over. And the rest of the team wasn't talented enough to adjust. Blue Edwards? Jeff Malone? David Benoit? Shandon Anderson?? :oldlol:

Plus Sloan was a good coach but he could never adjust if things weren't working. Strictly a one-note operator who coached the same way he played in the 70s. Hit the wall with your head until it crumbles.
:rolleyes:

The sad part is they were never better offensively than the '88 playoffs when they were outrunning the Showtime Lakers. Settled for the halfcourt game under Sloan :rant

[TheCorporation]

Cuz I watched the playoffs in the 90s, I can safely say the following:

The Jazz was a great halfcourt team that beat up on weak sisters in the Western Conference every year, after they pushed the Lakers to 7 games in a near-upset in the 88 playoffs. But ever since that year, they had been overrated - their efficient halfcourt offense wasn't effective in the playoffs because that is when everyone steps up and plays over their heads, pushing themselves to another level.

The Jazz were routinely beaten by more athletic teams that disrupted their precision timed offense like the Blazers in 92 West finals, or upset in the first round by hot shooting teams like the Warriors in 91 or ultra-clutch teams like the Rockets in the 95 playoffs. Almost every year up until the 98 Finals, the Jazz kept choking because they could never really exceed their standard play established in the regular season.

Stockton and Malone ran off of turnovers, which is why they could beat talented but undisciplined teams like the 98 Lakers, but if they faced a veteran opponent careful with the ball, their halfcourt became predictable, and Malone kept taking low percentage shots if he wasn't getting to the line. Stockton had no extra gear of taking over. And the rest of the team wasn't talented enough to adjust. Blue Edwards? Jeff Malone? David Benoit? Shandon Anderson?? :oldlol:

Plus Sloan was a good coach but he could never adjust if things weren't working. Strictly a one-note operator who coached the same way he played in the 70s. Hit the wall with your head until it crumbles.
:rolleyes:

Thank you, I appreciate this :applause:

[jcyrus10]

They were not that good

[stalkerforlife]

coz they faced jordan instead of lebron

First reply ended the thread. :roll:

[TheCorporation]

They were not that good

Yes, I agree. And yet we are saying this was the BEST team Jordan ever faced in the Finals? :confusedshrug:

[stalkerforlife]

Yes, I agree. And yet we are saying this was the BEST team Jordan ever faced in the Finals? :confusedshrug:

No one has ever said that.

But the Jazz team that went to the finals would win the East multiple times over the past decade. By far better than anything Bran ever faced with all his super teams in the east.

[Gotterdammerung]

Yes, I agree. And yet we are saying this was the BEST team Jordan ever faced in the Finals? :confusedshrug:

That's a mistake.

The Jazz were a good team that got beat every year in the Western Conference until all the other teams declined or fell off or weren't ready. Drexler's Blazers bullied them twice in the early 90s. The Double-Clutch City Rockets were too clutch. Supersonics had the edge in youth, athleticism and depth. But they all fell off in the latter half of the 90s, leaving the door open for a veteran team that was quite past their prime.

Especially when the Rockets traded their young athletic guys for an over-the-hill Barkley just to beat the Sonics' trapping defense - they no longer had the juice to beat the Jazz in 97.
:sleeping

[Spurs m8]

Why doesn't OP ever leave the basement? :confusedshrug:

[TheCorporation]

No one has ever said that.

But the Jazz team that went to the finals would win the East multiple times over the past decade. By far better than anything Bran ever faced with all his super teams in the east.

Literally the biggest Jordan stan of all time said that. 3ball himself said that...

[stalkerforlife]

Why doesn't OP ever leave the basement? :confusedshrug:

Oh, he's another Simon alt?

Thanks. Didn't realize.

[AirTupac]

Jordan GOAT...

[NBASTATMAN]

They never had enough talent around them is the truth.. Put Reggie Miller on their team instead of Hornacek and they win a title..

[BigShotBob]

Why has OP slept with 0 women?

[Bawkish]

Malone & Stockton at their age today would have better chance at winning a ring than OP getting de-virginized

[jstern]

Personally I think that if those Jazz teams were playing in this era, but in the Eastern conference instead of the West, then they would probably be in the Finals year after year. More opportunities, only really having to play against one team, less wear and tear, at least five rings.

[Mr. Jabbar]

coz they faced jordan instead of lebron

:roll: :roll: :roll:

1st reply SLAY!

[Round Mound]

They where not a dynamic: duo like Pippen & MJ, Did Not Have a Stacked Team of Isiah & Dumars Whom Also Had A Great Defensive Frontline, or Magic-Kareem & Worthy or Bird-McHale-Parish /Plus DJ & Walton etc. They where not dynamic as i say and they could only fill the roles at their positions. They where not multipositional too.

[sportjames23]

Why did Malone/Stockton Jazz win 0 rings?

Because they played in the 80s & 90s and had to deal with teams like Magic's Lakers, Drexler's Blazers, KJ's Suns, Olajuwon's Rockets, Payton and Kemp's Sonics, Robinson's Spurs, Run-TMC's Warriors and then when they finally got to the Finals, the GOAT's Bulls.

[3ball]

But what about why didn't they even make a finals appearance in 94 or 95 or 96? 99? 00? 01?

Is a two-time finals appearance team the best Jordan ever faced?


The Spurs/Heat were the only super-teams with 3+ HOF's, while teams in the 90's had to win rings with only 1 or 2 HOF.. It's harder to win by competing with 5-6 other teams of equal talent (parity), than being 1 of 2 teams with all the talent

the talent was more evenly spread out so it was 3-4 spurs teams playing each other in the stacked 90's West, hence them taking turns making the Finals and losing to MJ

The suns, sonics, and jazz beat up on each other.... and the rockets missed out on their turn losing to the bulls when they had their peak in 94' and MJ wasn't quite ready in 95'

Parity caused these teams to have lower net efficiency than the 07' and 13/14 Spurs, who faced far weaker comp in the west, as the only super-team
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[bullettooth]

The Spurs/Heat were the only super-teams with 3+ HOF's, while teams in the 90's had to win rings with only 1 or 2 HOF.. It's harder to win by competing with 5-6 other teams of equal talent (parity), than being 1 of 2 teams with all the talent

the talent was more evenly spread out so it was 3-4 spurs teams playing each other in the stacked 90's West, hence them taking turns making the Finals and losing to MJ

The suns, sonics, and jazz beat up on each other.... and the rockets missed out on their turn losing to the bulls when they had their peak in 94' and MJ wasn't quite ready in 95'

and hence these teams having lower net efficiency than the 07' and 13/14 Spurs, who faced far weaker comp in the west -

You're responding to a retard. He won't get it.

[Rico2016]

Because they played in the 80s & 90s and had to deal with teams like Magic's Lakers, Drexler's Blazers, KJ's Suns, Olajuwon's Rockets, Payton and Kemp's Sonics, Robinson's Spurs, Run-TMC's Warriors and then when they finally got to the Finals, the GOAT's Bulls.

Imagine mentioning Drexler's Blazers as a super team
Imagine mentioning the Sun's as "KJ's" team
Imagine mentioning Robinson's Spurs who did nothing until drafting TD in '99

Are you even for real with your crap post? :oldlol: