Adam Silver on mental health in NBA: A lot of these young men are generally unhappy

[STATUTORY]

“When I meet with them, what surprises me is that they're truly unhappy," Silver said, according to Boston.com's Nicole Yang. "A lot of these young men are generally unhappy."

Silver added, "We are living in a time of anxiety," according to ESPN. "I think it's a direct result of social media."

Silver suggested it's a generational issue that's not limited to athletes. Arguing that Jordan-era teams benefited from more camaraderie, he quoted Isiah Thomas: "Championships are won on the bus." Now, Silver pointed out, players are always wearing headphones.

"(Players) are isolated, and they have their heads down," the 56-year-old said, according to Yang.

The NBPA launched a new mental health and wellness program in May 2018 to assist players with mental health challenges and issues. Over the past year, stars Kevin Love and DeMar DeRozan have spoken publicly about their own battles with depression and anxiety.

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1726905

:biggums: imagine being unhappy while getting paid millions to play a children's game

[FireDavidKahn]

Silver is a great commissioner.

[STATUTORY]

Silver is a great commissioner.
good babysitter for soft players and men

[Marchesk]

Slavery's tough on the psyche.

[Rico2016]

Silver is a great commissioner.

100% and only a fool would think otherwise. Like the OP

[STATUTORY]

Slavery's tough on the psyche.

:roll: :roll: :roll: sad thing is some NBA players actually believe this

[Overdrive]

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1726905

:biggums: imagine being unhappy while getting paid millions to play a children's game

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.


:roll: :roll: :roll: sad thing is some NBA players actually believe this

It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.

[loadingthelife]

Poor millionaires ohhhh, how sad.

https://media.giphy.com/media/HjlKKc14d5tBK/giphy.gif

[warriorfan]

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.



It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.

:roll: what

[Mask the Embiid]

OP is one bad day away from blowing his own head off.Take it easy on him fellas...dont push his shit in

[STATUTORY]

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.



yes nba players are struggling to date and start a family :facepalm

:roll: :roll: :roll: nikka what?!




It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.

they are free to quit

[Overdrive]

:roll: what

What, what?


yes nba players are struggling to date and start a family

:roll: :roll: :roll: nikka what?!



they are free to quit

Dating and having a functioning family are two different things.

Of course, but they won't find a better job and won't be free either, so they won't quit. Doesn't mean they have to be happy.

[tpols]

turns out when it comes to happiness socialization is worth more than money

[ralph_i_el]

https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1726905

:biggums: imagine being unhappy while getting paid millions to play a children's game


Lots of people in high paying jobs have depression. Everyone in my family is a millionaire and they're all depressed/alcoholics. My dad is the only one that isn't ****ed up, and he basically figured out a daily routine and sleep-walked through every part of his non-work life for 20+ years. At the same thing for breakfast every day. Exercised at the same times every week. Almost every weekend spent in the same way.


Money isn't everything. Lots of factors go into fulfillment.

[FKAri]

It's not just NBA players. It's modern society in general.

[bullettooth]

It's not just NBA players. It's modern society in general.

Except nobody gives a **** about men. You'll only hear about women's issues.

[loadingthelife]

Lots of people in high paying jobs have depression. Everyone in my family is a millionaire and they're all depressed/alcoholics. My dad is the only one that isn't ****ed up, and he basically figured out a daily routine and sleep-walked through every part of his non-work life for 20+ years. At the same thing for breakfast every day. Exercised at the same times every week. Almost every weekend spent in the same way.


Money isn't everything. Lots of factors go into fulfillment.

Lots of people in low paying jobs have depression. Many in my family is poor and they're all depressed/alcoholics. My mom is the only one that isn't ****ed up, and she basically figured out a daily routine and sleep-walked through every part of her non-work life for 20+ years. At the same thing for breakfast every day. Exercised at the same times every week. Almost every weekend spent in the same way.


Money isn't everything. Lots of factors go into fulfillment.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Why? They

[STATUTORY]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Why? They

[BANE?]

It's not just NBA players. It's modern society in general.

It

[sammichoffate]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Why? They

[tpols]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Why? They

[90sgoat]

The salary levels in professional sports are directly opposed to the level of spiritual fulfillment of society.

You think some of these athletes sometimes don't stop to ponder "wait what, why am I getting paid hundreds of millions to play a sport"?

Maybe even some of the wokest see through the bs and that they're tool of propaganda for a hostile elite.

Bread and Circus.

They're the circus. Just so happens is so ****ed up, that they need to pay their circus artists 30 million dollar a year to hide the fact that the 1% own the 99%.

But hey..

DID YOU SEE THAT CHASE DOWN BLOCK BY LEBRON

[FKAri]

Why? They’re getting paid millions to play a boys game. Bang hot women who throw themselves at them. Eat at fine restaurants. Get handed free swag and shoes daily. Pathetic.
Are you 12? You must be the youngest AAU coach in history :eek:

[STATUTORY]

there's much more to life... like real relationships.
you are missing the fact that the only reason these guys can't have "real relationships" is due to their lack of self-control and discipline. There's nothing preventing them from doing it. If they didn't have money they would be in prison and be more "depressed"

look at Tom Brady or someone like Shane Battier or Grant Hill

[AlternativeAcc.]

I don't buy it

They seem generally unhappy because they're meeting with some bald geek pretending he cares about them.


Most of these guys are happier and more fulfilled than 99% of the population.. and I guarantee that


Being a part of a sports team alone fosters happiness... getting paid to travel, hang out with your friends, and play basketball while getting social media clout fosters extreme happiness/fulfillment

There's a reason it's hard for them to step away.... and it's not just basketball. Like Ray Allen said, what he missed most was the brotherhood and commodore

[tpols]

you are missing the fact that the only reason these guys can't have "real relationships" is due to their lack of self-control and discipline. There's nothing preventing them from doing it. If they didn't have money they would be in prison and be more "depressed"

look at Tom Brady or someone like Shane Battier or Grant Hill


you're naming older guys who grew up without the internet. People arent being properly socialized, always buried in their phones on all their different apps. hell when you meet new people everybody wants to know your twitter, gram, snap, facebook handles and more. shits crazy.

i imagine people in the past talked to each other a lot more. instead of typing to others far away dissasociating themselves from their environment.

[AlternativeAcc.]

you're naming older guys who grew up without the internet. People arent being properly socialized, always buried in their phones on all their different apps.
You mean people that practice, play, and travel with their friends almost daily aren't being properly socialized? :oldlol:

Just stop it.. they're not victims. They are benefiting more than anyone else in this internet age. NBA players are literally the last people you should be feeling sympathy for in this time


Tpols: NBA players aren't given the opportunity to have real relationships :cry: :cry: :cry:

[paksat]

As a player in the ABA myself I can attest to the pressures of playing professional basketball

it goes from a game that you love to "do or die"

you got 2 minutes to make an impression.. no pressure dawg

[SamuraiSWISH]

you're naming all vices. you see young celebs all the time depressed, OD'ed who had every women and party and experience possible, there's much more to life... like real relationships.
You can have those too as a ball player. Not all of them are true celebrities. There’s tons of guys with real relationships in pro sports

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It's not just NBA players. It's modern society in general.


1000p% this.

The NBA is a complex adaptive system of society as a whole.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.



It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.

:oldlol:

[jstern]

It's all relative, in comparison to NBA players of the past, today's players are probably less happy.

It's the product of the internet, and it affects most people. Specially younger ones who didn't grow up with it. The constant search for stimulation is a waste of life.

I remember watching a sitcom back in the 90s, looking at the clock, knowing that it's 30 minutes long, and not wanting it to end. That was very comfortable, with zero rush. Now if I go on to YouTube, I'll start watching a video, pause it, check out ISH, watch another video, pause it, etc. Pure boredom in search of stimulation. So many more options, but less enjoyable. More stress. You can't simply flip a switch and just watch a show like in the 90s.

People also tend to get used to their circumstances. Kyrie looks unhappy, things are not quite going his way. Yet if you suddenly give his life circumstances and status to someone who has been struggling for decades (not a teenager or early 20s person who will not appreciate it as much and party it away), they will be the happiest person in the world.

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:oldlol:

Yeah. I chucked too.

Not sure how dude defines "put up with".

[Overdrive]

Yeah. I chucked too.

Not sure how dude defines "put up with".

I mean you won't have a wife for long if you **** sidewomen in any city you play.


You mean people that practice, play, and travel with their friends almost daily aren't being properly socialized? :oldlol:


Yeah, people on sports teams are friends.

[Rico2016]

Are you 12? You must be the youngest AAU coach in history :eek:

Get. His. Ass.

[brooks_thompson]

I remember watching a sitcom back in the 90s, looking at the clock, knowing that it's 30 minutes long, and not wanting it to end. That was very comfortable, with zero rush. Now if I go on to YouTube, I'll start watching a video, pause it, check out ISH, watch another video, pause it, etc. Pure boredom in search of stimulation. So many more options, but less enjoyable. More stress. You can't simply flip a switch and just watch a show like in the 90s.




Man oh man this is the truth. I miss that feeling of pure relaxation, just knowing you're set for half an hour and staying focused on the show.

The sad part of this age is I'm totally aware that the internet has destroyed me, and that history shows I'm capable of living differently (I didn't have the internet til jr. high), but by and large, I don't change.

My biggest question is is this 'stimulation anxiety' caused from too many choices and the feeling you might be missing out on something better? Or is it something less simple?

[ArbitraryWater]

I mean you won't have a wife for long if you **** sidewomen in any city you play.



Yeah, people on sports teams are friends.

oh no, what a tough environment to be in, not fcking sidewomen is keeping them from being happy, life is just unfair :facepalm

bruv you serious


you just said they're not free, now you point to something that is literally a free choice.


plus, even then you'll find many women tolerating it.

[stalkerforlife]

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.



It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.

:roll:

The human race is f ucked.

[bison]

Pretty much expected these replies from the burger flipping, couch athlete virgins of this forum to know what life in the NBA is like.

[bison]

Except nobody gives a **** about men. You'll only hear about women's issues.

Dudes who say things like this don

[Mr. Jabbar]

Well Silver is friken right. The only social media I support is Youtube and Insidehoops.

[Ben Simmons 25]

It's not just NBA players. It's modern society in general.

Correct.

And it's not just social media. It's being tethered to each other and the internet in general 24/7/365.

Cell phones, and specifically smart phones coupled with texting, are one of the greatest inventions in human history... and one of the worst.

Social media isn't the big culprit. Our brains ARE LITERALLY being re-wired to expect instant, at will gratification AT ANY MOMENT'S NOTICE because we carry around in our pockets a vast array of information.

And even as we're more "interconnected" than ever, we as a species have never been further apart within our own communities.

https://www.amazon.com/Alone-Together-Expect-Technology-Other/dp/0465093655/

https://www.amazon.com/Glow-Kids-Screen-Addiction-Hijacking/dp/1250146550/

I highly recommend these two books to anyone struggling with anything tech related or any unexplained mental struggles. I also recommend the second one especially for anyone raising their kids by pacifying them with a tablet or phone.

I am, unfortunately and fortunately, about 20 years ahead of most people on this subject... because I became plugged into the net in roughly 1992 at 9 years old and have been heavily plugged in almost ever since(took a year long break roughly and it was the most peaceful time of my adult life). I was carrying around smartphones before people even knew what they were.

Technology is completely destroying our communities, socially speaking. I'm not exaggerating or being dramatic. It's happening. And there's no going back.

[bullettooth]

[QUOTE=bison]Dudes who say things like this don

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[QUOTE=bison]Dudes who say things like this don

[PWB15]

Yeah, imagine not heaving a steady home, not being able to have a family, because no woman will put up with your rockstar lifestyle, while being permanently under pressure, because some fool, who can't put up a lay up on an open basket will burn you on twitter, if you miss a guarded 28 footer buzzer in january. Imagine that not making you happy. Money isn't evrything.

Also Imagine a place you like and then you get traded along the 130 million dollar superstar, because some dude on another team wants that guy and you have to be packaged with him to make salaries match.



It's not slavery, but the nonstars aren't really free either.



Those are 1st world problems and the average person doesn't give a F*CK

[PWB15]

Except nobody gives a **** about men. You'll only hear about women's issues.


No one cares about men?:wtf:

[fourkicks44]

If Silver was really concerned about people being unhappy he should kill HIMSELF.

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If Silver was really concerned about people being unhappy he should kill HIMSELF.

And you'll join him after the Sixers lose to Toronto in the playoffs.

[fourkicks44]

And you'll join him after the Sixers lose to Toronto in the playoffs.

If Silver kills himself I will die a happy man.

[SaltyMeatballs]

Silver is right, it is because of social media. There's so many god damn haters and brainless retards who constantly spew bullshit on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, etc.

[fourkicks44]

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[fsvr54]

Why are people so scared to, you know, just not use social media? Ive never had social media accounts, i dont watch tv, don't even pay for internet (other than this phone) and I'm mentally better off than 99% of this planet.


And you know what? Im fulfilled. Im not rich (not even close), but im self sufficient, stay healthy, have my AC at home, my bed, my video games, basketball ( i play in real life) and my weed and I'm happy. Every day is an opportunity, I like associating with all kinds of peoples. In person.

When you have your basic needs met and and you realize Just existing is fulfilling enough in and of itself, you're good man...

The main.thing is I have rooted out all sources of stress in my life (literaly no worries beyond basic bills). Stress is the biggest killer. Also you can (should) never care what another human thinks about you, like, at all.

[egokiller]

LeBron tried to help young men by giving them something to cheer for because they were so fvcking depressed that they missed seeing GOAT MJ and some even missed Kobe's prime. All their lives they've been told what a great experience it was and how every other viewing experience in the NBA has been absolute shit by comparison. (and it has) LeBron gave these sorry sons of bitches hope. They try to come on ISH and feel happiness about him ONLY losing 6 finals and people like 3ball shit all over their hopes and dreams by making them feel like nothing because he reminds them constantly how inferior their viewing experience is compared to the viewing experience of watching GOAT MJ. They spend months trying to make a house of cards and 3ball just blows it down effortlessly causing them to go into a deep state of depression. It's not fair for them and no one even trolls them anymore because it's too easy. Safe spaces are becoming more and more scarce for them. What once was a safe space at ISH is no longer. Can anything be done to help these sorry bastards?

[paksat]

LeBron tried to help young men by giving them something to cheer for because they were so fvcking depressed that they missed seeing GOAT MJ and some even missed Kobe's prime. All their lives they've been told what a great experience it was and how every other viewing experience in the NBA has been absolute shit by comparison. (and it has) LeBron gave these sorry sons of bitches hope. They try to come on ISH and feel happiness about him ONLY losing 6 finals and people like 3ball shit all over their hopes and dreams by making them feel like nothing because he reminds them constantly how inferior their viewing experience is compared to the viewing experience of watching GOAT MJ. They spend months trying to make a house of cards and 3ball just blows it down effortlessly causing them to go into a deep state of depression. It's not fair for them and no one even trolls them anymore because it's too easy. Safe spaces are becoming more and more scarce for them. What once was a safe space at ISH is no longer. Can anything be done to help these sorry bastards?


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I can see why your boss hates you, you keep it real

[WadeStan]

Poor millionaires ohhhh, how sad.

https://media.giphy.com/media/HjlKKc14d5tBK/giphy.gif

I can't tell if you're saying this because you actually believe it or because your fragile mind can't face the reality that if people with seemingly everything can't escape the challenges of life, what hope does someone like you have.

[Smoke117]

They are weak beta millennials so what do you expect. :confusedshrug:

[Ben Simmons 25]

I can't tell if you're saying this because you actually believe it or because your fragile mind can't face the reality that if people with seemingly everything can't escape the challenges of life, what hope does someone like you have.

Nah, he believes it. People really believe that excessive amounts of money and fame and bitches = automatic happiness. And that's because it is... for a short while... until the existential dread sets in you're right back to square one.

BTW, nobody can escape the challenges of life... but day to day? moment to moment? Relatively speaking, and not as an absolute? Happiness is a choice.

[AirFederer]

The Delonte/da real Lambo effect