Was Jordan getting ripped like this when he missed the playoffs in 2002-2003

[Dray n Klay]

I wasn

[ArbitraryWater]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay][B]I wasn

[Big164]

Bill Russell should come back for a 14th & 15th season if we are going to totally ignore Age.

[Dray n Klay]

Bill Russell should come back for a 14th & 15th season if we are going to totally ignore Age.

Jordan was only 2-3 season from winning FMVP averaging 34ppg

Why is age an excuse?

[bullettooth]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]I wasn

[kennethgriffen]

so OP is basically saying 16th year lebron is on the same level as 40 year old MJ


meanwhile 16th and 17th year kobe was 1st team all nba


and don't give me this total minutes argument. lebrons played zero defense and slacked off in the east his whole career

[Dray n Klay]

so OP is basically saying 16th year lebron is on the same level as 40 year old MJ


meanwhile 16th and 17th year kobe was 1st team all nba


and don't give me this total minutes argument. lebrons played zero defense and slacked off in the east his whole career


15th year Jordan vs 16th year LeBron.



And Kobe was a bench warmer his first 2 seasons


His 17th season should be compared to LeBrons 15th season

[3ball]

Jordan was 40 by then and had already been MVP and 3-peat champ at 34, not lottery loser like lebron

Jordan also had 3 more rings than lebron, 1 more MVP, 3 more FMVP, 1 more DPOY, 4 more 1st team all-defense, 9 more scoring titles, higher PER, ws/48, plus-minus, usage, and efficiency per possession (ortg), and the only player to average 30/5/5 for career

So no one cared what he did as a Wizard and were actually impressed that he improved them 18 wins, which is a lot more than lebron this year

[Spurs m8]

Jordan was 40 by then and had already been MVP and 3-peat champ at 34, not lottery loser like lebron

Jordan also had 3 more rings than lebron, 1 more MVP, 3 more FMVP, 1 more DPOY, 4 more 1st team all-defense, 9 more scoring titles, higher PER, ws/48, plus-minus, usage, and efficiency per possession (ortg), and the only player to average 30/5/5 for career

Exactly.

Move on OP...LeBron and Jordan should never even be in the same sentence....they're not even close.

[kennethgriffen]

15th year Jordan vs 16th year LeBron.



And Kobe was a bench warmer his first 2 seasons


His 17th season should be compared to LeBrons 15th season


like i said... coasting during the regular season in the east and skipping the first 3 rounds of the last 8 playoffs saved lebrons legs

not to mention slacking off on defense since 2013-14


kobe had more wear and tear. the proof is in the surgeries

[Mask the Embiid]

No, lebron is held to a different standard because he is the greatest player of all time.

Nobody in the history of sports is held to "The LeBron Standard" other than Tom Brady....who is the goat of his sport


hmmm " The LeBron Standard" i might trademark that

or should we go with "The LeGolden Standard"?

LeGolden Boy
LeGoldenChild
LeGolden One

Voice of the voiceless....leader of men...Alpha of alphas (alf-alpha)

:oldlol: Alf-Alpha James


im rambling...but you get it


https://media1.tenor.com/images/4d9c52685c57fb16b63e3aab24e151da/tenor.gif

[Dray n Klay]

like i said... coasting during the regular season in the east and skipping the first 3 rounds of the last 8 playoffs saved lebrons legs

not to mention slacking off on defense since 2013-14


kobe had more wear and tear. the proof is in the surgeries


Did Kobe ever tear his groin?:lol

[kennethgriffen]

Did Kobe ever tear his groin?:lol


yeah and he missed zero games


http://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10711/kobe-bryant-strained-right-groin-muscle

[Dray n Klay]

yeah and he missed zero games


http://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10711/kobe-bryant-strained-right-groin-muscle

"Strain" not a tear dumbass :oldlol:



LeBrons injury was as severe as Kobe's Achilles


And Kobe was finished after that

[Rico2016]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay]I wasn

[3ball]

No lebron is held to a different standard because he is the greatest player of all time.

Nobody in the history of sports is held to "The LeBron Standard" other than tom brady....who is the goat of his sport
Lebron only has 4 MVP in 16 years

That's below MJ, Kareem, and Magic

And only 7 total MVP including fmvp - that's 4 less than mj's record of 11

And only 5 seasons of dual all-nba and all-defense 1st team selections, so 4 less than mj's record of 9

Every premium measure shows lebron at a lower level from MJ's goat standard.. haven't even mentioned a ring count

[kennethgriffen]

"Strain" not a tear dumbass :oldlol:



LeBrons injury was as severe as Kobe's Achilles


And Kobe was finished after that


wait.. i thought a strain was a tear

because lebrons diagnoses was a strain and you said thats a tear

or are you saying you were lying this entire time

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/12/25/lebron-james-locker-room-possible-groin-injury



thats the last time i take medical advice from a quadriplegic schizophrenic hermit

[Dray n Klay]

wait.. i thought a strain was a tear

because lebrons diagnoses was a strain and you said thats a tear

or are you saying you were lying this entire time

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/12/25/lebron-james-locker-room-possible-groin-injury



thats the last time i take medical advice from a quadriplegic schizophrenic hermit

Why did Kobe only win 17 games with these Lakers?

[Rico2016]

Why did Kobe only win 17 games with these Lakers?

:eek: :eek:

[Dray n Klay]

:eek: :eek:
:lol


And with that poor Kenny disappeared

[Rico2016]

:lol


And with that poor Kenny disappeared

:lol

My favorite question is

Why did Kobe get 1 MVP in 20 years

[Mr.GOAT2408]

wait.. i thought a strain was a tear

because lebrons diagnoses was a strain and you said thats a tear

or are you saying you were lying this entire time

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/12/25/lebron-james-locker-room-possible-groin-injury



thats the last time i take medical advice from a quadriplegic schizophrenic hermit
Wow, another ether :rockon:

Notice he didn't actually respond to your post, thinking he's slick with all his alts too :roll:

[Celtics 1825]

[QUOTE=Dray n Klay][B]I wasn

[Gus Hemmingway]

DnK and Rico going in :lol