ALT level at 179. Gotta see a liver specialist

[Draz]

Anyone had high ALT and AST levels? I did a sonogram last year when my ALT was at 112 and nothing was wrong that they can find as per fatty liver. One year later it rose to 179. I have to see a specialist.

I drink occasionally.

I'm ****ing scared out of my mind right now.

[highwhey]

Anyone had high ALT and AST levels? I did a sonogram last year when my ALT was at 112 and nothing was wrong that they can find as per fatty liver. One year later it rose to 179. I have to see a specialist.

I drink occasionally.

I'm ****ing scared out of my mind right now.
https://i.postimg.cc/gJRDYGJ2/francis.png as your friend on snap...i don't agree.

anyhow, if you have fatty liver, doesn't that go down by drinking less and not eating foods with too much fat?

one of my friends had that and he went a couple weeks without drinking and the problem went away.

anyways, what are your symptoms?

[Dinosaurus]

https://i.postimg.cc/gJRDYGJ2/francis.png as your friend on snap...i don't agree.

anyhow, if you have fatty liver, doesn't that go down by drinking less and not eating foods with too much fat?

one of my friends had that and he went a couple weeks without drinking and the problem went away.

anyways, what are your symptoms?
Fatty liver never goes away, you can just slow the progress/stop the progress by making life style changes.

[Akrazotile]

https://i.postimg.cc/gJRDYGJ2/francis.png as your friend on snap...i don't agree.

anyhow, if you have fatty liver, doesn't that go down by drinking less and not eating foods with too much fat?

one of my friends had that and he went a couple weeks without drinking and the problem went away.

anyways, what are your symptoms?


Intuitively you would think so but actually recent findings show it’s refined sugar that leads most quickly to fatty build up around the organs. If you eat a lot of processed/sugary foods or drinks OP, cut back immediately. And obviously cut out booze for at least a month. Also, more and more findings show stress directly contributes to fatty buildup around the liver. Keep that in mind.

However your body goes thru natural cycles of enzyme levels, so it’s possible you just happened to run the test at the peak of a cycle. On the other hand it can also be an indicator of an issue. Absent any other symptoms this is likely not a sign of something that needs medical attention immediately. I would adjust your diet and get retested in 3-4 weeks. If it’s still that high, then see a specialist.

That’s my .02. (Obviously) Im not a medical doctor, but I have had elevated liver enzyme results in the past. In most cases theyre benign. But obviously do what your... ahem... gut tells you.

[highwhey]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]Intuitively you would think so but actually recent findings show it

[Draz]

The last sonogram showed it wasn’t a fatty liver and they found nothing but my blood test is showing high ALT and it spiked even since then. Wtf is it?

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yeah I had a similar problem but instead of being a dumbass like you I actually listened to my doctor and stopped drinking completely. I cant Imagine drinking while having liver problems. You have a death wish OP. I replaced alcohol with fruit smoothies every morning.

[tpols]

Fatty liver never goes away, you can just slow the progress/stop the progress by making life style changes.


thats not true. a semi keto diet high in healthy fats plus some intermittant fasting can restore your liver especially somebody in their 20s. liver has the highest regeneration potential of any organ.

[coin24]

It's liver or bone. So you could have aids. Jks:oldlol:
Lay off the booze and shit food.

Eat some veggies and get that immunity up.


Around 1/3 of people have mild fatty liver disease

[Loco 50]

Anyone had high ALT and AST levels? I did a sonogram last year when my ALT was at 112 and nothing was wrong that they can find as per fatty liver. One year later it rose to 179. I have to see a specialist.

I drink occasionally.

I'm ****ing scared out of my mind right now.
Way too early to flip out.

Weren't you recently sick? Did you take any meds? Any tylenol or antibiotics?

There are many reasons your enzymes can elevate....had an internal medicine doc sarcastically say he could scratch his ass and come up with an elevated enzyme count so just calm down, do what your doc recommends and in all likelihood, you're a-ok.

In the meantime, don't drink anymore alcohol or take tylenol. Aspirin or advil/aleve are better alternatives for now unless you aren't supposed to take those either. Elevated enzymes mean your liver is stressed and changes are occurring. Don't need to stress it more by adding a larger workload.

[Loco 50]

Fatty liver never goes away, you can just slow the progress/stop the progress by making life style changes.
Wrong, you're thinking of cirrhosis. Different problems.

Disease progress is healthy liver-----fatty liver--inflammation---------scarring/cirrhosis

Everything before scarring is reversible. The current thinking is even early scarring may be reversible, not that I would recommend testing that out.

[Loco 50]

interesting. i'm not very well informed in this area, i just know as a very big advocate for keto diets, fatty liver is an issue when you consume elevated amounts of fats (long term studies of low carb diets show an increase in fatty liver bc of higher fat consumption).

good to know though. not a huge fan of sweets myself...but beer...my goodness it's the nectar of the gods.
I'm not really a fan of keto because of the stresses it can place on your body.

Especially long term, it's a bad idea in my opinion. Ketoacidosis is something we avoid in diabetic patients at all costs because it's life threatening aka it kills organs. Ketosis or the keto diet involves a lower level of ketones floating around in the body, but again, just in my opinion, that doesn't mean no harm is being done. I'm particularly concerned about the kidneys because any excess protein beats up the kidneys, but overall my views on the keto diet are mostly intuition and I don't think definitive studies have been run to this point.

I find intermittent fasting a much preferable alternative.

The thought behind fasting is the liver is constantly under pressure metabolizing your food/drug intake and producing glycogen by breaking down fats/sugars. If you are in a constant state of caloric excess your liver can never get a break. When glycogen stores are filled up, fat is produced, aka we get fatter. So it's a really good idea to just chill out on eating.

If the body goes a decent amount of time, say 15-18 hours then those glycogen stores can be used up.

After, and this is the key to weight loss, after the glycogen stores are used up then the body starts carving into stored liver fat and then stored body fat. This will never happen if a person is constantly bombarding himself with extra calories because glycogen will never be depleted.

Alcohol gives a double shot to the liver by direct harm because it's a toxin that has to be metabolized and by giving excess calories. So something to definitely be avoided anytime any issues with the liver arise.

[warriorfan]

Those Alt levels are actually quite low for your average ISH poster

[Dinosaurus]

Wrong, you're thinking of cirrhosis. Different problems.

Disease progress is healthy liver-----fatty liver--inflammation---------scarring/cirrhosis

Everything before scarring is reversible. The current thinking is even early scarring may be reversible, not that I would recommend testing that out.
Well that's not what google is telling me, it's saying you can reverse some of the damage but it's unlikely you'll reverse all of it and depends on how far a long it is.

[Loco 50]

Well that's not what google is telling me, it's saying you can reverse some of the damage but it's unlikely you'll reverse all of it and depends on how far a long it is.
Sure, depends on severity of disease. Like I said inflammation would follow fatty changes. This renders liver cells useless if bad enough.

Do you think OP has been suffering from extensive irreversible fatty liver disease with an ALT of 179 with no other symptoms? Keep in mind he now has a scan showing no liver abnormalities.

Not criticizing, just informing.

[Draz]

I don't wanna die

[egokiller]

If the title of this thread had the word "liver" replaced with "mental", it would be perfectly applicable to Simon.

[tpols]

do you have any liver symptoms, like nausea & pain under right ribcage & below?

[Draz]

do you have any liver symptoms, like nausea & pain under right ribcage & below?
No, none of the symptoms