MORE points on 1,000 less shots, while being 6 years younger (34 vs 40) [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

Asukal

03-07-2019, 11:40 AM

Only thing MJ could do was score???
What about DPOY and 1st team all-D ????

Lebrontards are in full meltdown mode.

Bran is better in pushed defence, though.

To get himself going on defense, Lebron still needs help. :oldlol: :lol :hammerhead:

kennethgriffen

03-07-2019, 11:41 AM

malone = 32,315 points on 22,722 shots
Lebron = 32,311 points on 23,297 shots
Jordan = 32,292 points on 24,537 shots

and malone never shot 3's

:lol

Jasper

03-07-2019, 11:45 AM

Jordan missed out on probably 4-5 seasons of scoring in his prime.

Could have played all 10 years in the 90s.

He probably hits 40k in points if he kept playing.
Actually it is SIX years...

MJ played college (4 years) Lebron = 0

MJ played baseball min=2 years Lebron = 0

I don't like comparison records cause guys like Kobe and James never were in college.
Same for rings , if these guys played college some more wear would be on their legs and that could mean less chips.

3ball

03-07-2019, 11:50 AM

MJ has the real record (PPG) and Kareem isn't anywhere near, or lebron..

Lebron remains bunched together with all the great scorers at 26-27 ppg, while MJ stands alone a full 3 points clear of everyone at 30 ppg.. in his own class..

and he scored 5 points more in the playoffs with only 1% less TS.. Any lebron fan would prefer 5 points over 1%

Ultimately, MJ averaged 3-5 more ppg on better offensive efficiency (ortg or PER), and nearly equal TS.. So why should we care if lebron passes MJ any more than when Reggie passed Bird?

SomeBlackDude

03-07-2019, 12:37 PM

MORE points on 1,000 less shots

with half the rings/fmvp

9 less scoring titles

how great is our legawd? :bowdown:

while being 6 years younger (34 vs 40)

can you give us a breakdown of what each player was doing at age 34?

:confusedshrug:

sportjames23

03-07-2019, 01:01 PM

And the only thing Jordan could do was score :roll:

That’s the funniest part

GOATJames :bowdown:

https://i.ibb.co/sFgwdM6/04-D4461-A-916-B-4-B60-AD31-7-F05-E1-E1-F1-B5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Hey Yo

03-07-2019, 01:13 PM

Jordan missed out on probably 4-5 seasons of scoring in his prime.

Could have played all 10 years in the 90s.

He probably hits 40k in points if he kept playing.
No he couldn't have.

He admittedly didn't have the mental toughness to do so. He was mentally exhausted after just 3 consecutive Finals appearances and had to quit the league after both times. No way he could handle 8 in a row with 100x more pressure added like James has had to do.

bullettooth

03-07-2019, 01:16 PM

No he couldn't have.

He admittedly didn't have the mental toughness to do so. He was mentally exhausted after just 3 consecutive Finals appearances and had to quit the league after both times. No way he could handle 8 in a row with 100x more pressure added like James has had to do.

Why are you lying?

3ball

03-07-2019, 01:17 PM

3 ppg is the difference between a Giannis/Kawhi-level scorer and Booker/Lavine

5 ppg difference is down to good role players like Klay.. basically a completely lower level

These are the scoring edges that MJ had over lebron, and everyone in the history of the NBA.

Unfortunately, the media/lebron stans aren't perceiving it correctly

ImKobe

03-07-2019, 01:19 PM

Took Lebron 100+ more games to pass MJ's scoring total :kobe:

what's with this shots bs? James took way more threes while Jordan barely shot them at all.

Jordan's career PPG was 31.5 after his last year in Chicago at 35. Lebron's highest scoring season was 31.4 ppg :kobe:

Hey Yo

03-07-2019, 01:19 PM

Actually it is SIX years...

MJ played college (4 years) Lebron = 0

MJ played baseball min=2 years Lebron = 0

I don't like comparison records cause guys like Kobe and James never were in college.
Same for rings , if these guys played college some more wear would be on their legs and that could mean less chips.
He played for 3yrs at UNC, plus wasn't even a starter his freshman season.

Hey Yo

03-07-2019, 01:28 PM

Why are you lying?
I'm not........ those are the facts, Chico

''Mentally, I'm exhausted,'' Jordan said at a news conference on the United Center floor. ''I know, from a career standpoint, I've accomplished everything I could as an individual. Right now, I just don't have the mental challenges that I've had in the past to proceed as a basketball player.

''This is perfect time for me to walk away from the game. And I'm at peace with that.''

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/14/sports/pro-basketball-the-final-word-from-jordan.html

________________

Then from Sam Smith:

Jordan was sick and tired and burned out, just like in 1993. Perhaps after the lockout he'd reconsider, but Jordan was insistent. That was it. Yes, there was that one-tenth of one percent left, and Jordan exercised it with the Washington Wizards. (And then, as it turned out, everyone but Abe Pollin's accountant wished he hadn't.)

http://www.espn.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_sam&id=1936782

Hey Yo

03-07-2019, 01:37 PM

Poor Bucktooth..... as usual gets ruined by facts and runs away.

Da_Realist

03-07-2019, 01:42 PM

I'm not........ those are the facts, Chico

''Mentally, I'm exhausted,'' Jordan said at a news conference on the United Center floor. ''I know, from a career standpoint, I've accomplished everything I could as an individual. Right now, I just don't have the mental challenges that I've had in the past to proceed as a basketball player.

''This is perfect time for me to walk away from the game. And I'm at peace with that.''

https://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/14/sports/pro-basketball-the-final-word-from-jordan.html

________________

Then from Sam Smith:

Jordan was sick and tired and burned out, just like in 1993. Perhaps after the lockout he'd reconsider, but Jordan was insistent. That was it. Yes, there was that one-tenth of one percent left, and Jordan exercised it with the Washington Wizards. (And then, as it turned out, everyone but Abe Pollin's accountant wished he hadn't.)

http://www.espn.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_sam&id=1936782

"I've accomplished everything..."
"I just don't have the mental challenges I've had in the past"

Doesn't seem like someone that cared about the career scoring list, does it?

Hey Yo

03-07-2019, 01:47 PM

"I've accomplished everything..."
"I just don't have the mental challenges I've had in the past"

Doesn't seem like someone that cared about the career scoring list, does it?
My posts having nothing to do with career scoring. Dude I quoted said MJ could have played all 10yrs in the 90's. I said he couldn't due to MJ's self admittance that he burned out easily. Said himself he was mentally exhausted and that was even after his 2yr hiatus from the league to rest up mentally and physically.

FKAri

03-07-2019, 01:49 PM

"I've accomplished everything..."
"I just don't have the mental challenges I've had in the past"

Doesn't seem like someone that cared about the career scoring list, does it?
Sounds like someone who's decided to stop pursuing anything and just drink their life away in the Caribbean. Pretty standard for a competitive and driven 36 year old.

3ball

03-07-2019, 01:59 PM

Sounds like someone who's decided to stop pursuing anything and just drink their life away in the Caribbean. Pretty standard for a competitive and driven 36 year old.
There was nothing else to compete for (he'd already lapped the field twice)

he always said that's what caused him to retire.. no more challenges to keep him mentally engaged

He even begged Phil to come up with a new challenge for him.. but nothing.. so he retired.. the media is simply lying when they say he took a "break", as if he couldn't have played on like pippen and horace did.. :rolleyes:

Vino24

03-07-2019, 02:03 PM

If LeBron played in the 90's he would of treated MJ like DeRozan :oldlol:

ImKobe

03-07-2019, 02:06 PM

If LeBron played in the 90's he would of treated MJ like DeRozan :oldlol:

Jordan would have picked him up full court and made him pass the ball away or turn it over 9 out of 10 times.

Vino24

03-07-2019, 02:08 PM

Jordan would have picked him up full court and made him pass the ball away or turn it over 9 out of 10 times.
LeBron is too BIG for Jordan :no:

ImKobe

03-07-2019, 02:10 PM

LeBron is too BIG for Jordan :no:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gigN2zMU4

FKAri

03-07-2019, 02:10 PM

There was nothing else to compete for (he'd already lapped the field twice)

he always said that's what caused him to retire.. no more challenges to keep him mentally engaged

He even begged Phil to come up with a new challenge for him.. but nothing.. so he retired.. the media is simply lying when they say he took a "break", as if he couldn't have played on like pippen and horace did.. :rolleyes:
I'm not talking about '96. That was even more pathetic. He straight up quit on his team for selfish reasons. Didn't give a damn about his teammates, the organization or the fans.

SomeBlackDude

03-07-2019, 02:33 PM

If LeBron played in the 90's he would of treated MJ like DeRozan :oldlol:

the east in mj's time was not the all time worst joke it was in the lecollusion era.

how's bron's first year in an actual conference without a handpicked superteam going so far?

:yaohappy:

Jordan would have picked him up full court and made him pass the ball away or turn it over 9 out of 10 times.

this.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2018/Dwq45E.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2018/f6LnV3.gif

dude couldn't deal with handchecking pressure from kobe- a smaller, weaker, less athletic, worse defender version of the goat.

in an era where defense was allowed and he couldn't hide his lack of ballhandling skills, bronny would've been leexposed even worse than he has been this season. :roll:

Vino24

03-07-2019, 02:37 PM

the east in mj's time was not the all time worst joke it was in the lecollusion era.

how's bron's first year in an actual conference without a handpicked superteam going so far?

:yaohappy:

this.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2018/Dwq45E.gif

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2018/f6LnV3.gif

dude couldn't deal with handchecking pressure from kobe- a smaller, weaker, less athletic, worse defender version of the goat.

in an era where defense was allowed and he couldn't hide his lack of ballhandling skills, bronny would've been leexposed even worse than he has been this season. :roll:
LeBron basically ended the mid 2000's Pistons dynasty. You know one of the best defensive teams of all time :oldlol:

Da_Realist

03-07-2019, 02:38 PM

My posts having nothing to do with career scoring. Dude I quoted said MJ could have played all 10yrs in the 90's.

I know it. I just wanted to make an observation.

I said he couldn't due to MJ's self admittance that he burned out easily. .

No one said he burned out easily. MJ went hard unlike LeBron who has only had one season where he played all 82 games. MJ didn't take half the season off every year and he didn't half-ass games just to "activate" when he felt like it. MJ had one mode: "I kill everybody all the time." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LINW7EcDgqc)

Said himself he was mentally exhausted and that was even after his 2yr hiatus from the league to rest up mentally and physically.

He retired because his father was murdered. He had already won 3 straight titles while utterly lapping the field of the highest level NBA players. He retired because he needed a bigger challenge than dominating the best NBA players and winning year after year after year. The guys he considered on his level (Magic and Bird) had already retired. He obviously didn't care about topping some career scoring list. That never came up. He wasn't chasing some ghost. He retired on top of the game.

Then came back to win 3 more titles just because he could.

ImKobe

03-07-2019, 02:45 PM

LeBron basically ended the mid 2000's Pistons dynasty. You know one of the best defensive teams of all time :oldlol:

He beat a Pistons team that didn't have Larry Brown or Ben Wallace :roll: the two most important pieces of their "dynasty".

SomeBlackDude

03-07-2019, 02:53 PM

LeBron basically ended the mid 2000's Pistons dynasty. You know one of the best defensive teams of all time :oldlol:

this dude thinks the '07 pistons were the same defensively as the '04 pistons.

pure comedy. :lol

bron didn't make the playoffs in '04

during the reg. season he averaged 14 ppg on 29.5% fg against the '04 pistons :ohwell:

and since you brought it up... just curious, do you recall what happened that year when bronny ran up against a west squad in the playoffs?

https://i.postimg.cc/90v7TWBh/Worst-Finals-Le-Bron.jpg

#leexposed

https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DeAndre-Jordan-Face-After-Brandon-Knight-Dunk.gif

Vino24

03-07-2019, 02:56 PM

this dude thinks the '07 pistons were the same defensively as the '04 pistons.

pure comedy. :lol

bron didn't make the playoffs in '04

during the reg. season he averaged 14 ppg on 29.5% fg against the '04 pistons :ohwell:

and since you brought it up... just curious, do you recall what happened that year when bronny ran up against a west squad in the playoffs?

https://i.postimg.cc/90v7TWBh/Worst-Finals-Le-Bron.jpg

#leexposed

https://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DeAndre-Jordan-Face-After-Brandon-Knight-Dunk.gif
LeBron was basically a baby then. Should he have gone 1-9 instead? would that have been better?

ImKobe

03-07-2019, 02:58 PM

LeBron was basically a baby then. Should he have gone 1-9 instead? would that have been better?

Oh now age matters, but Kobe at the same age averaged 33/7/7 against a better version of the Spurs :lol

SomeBlackDude

03-07-2019, 03:10 PM

LeBron was basically a baby then. Should he have gone 1-9 instead? would that have been better?

judging by bronny's first season in a real conference without being able to handpick his teammates, i'd say 1-9 would've been a massive improvement over what lestans are getting now.

https://i.postimg.cc/7hkgQ3RR/The-West-Rises.jpg

both bronny and lestans really bought into the bullshit narratives.

life comes at you fast.

cold, hard reality check.

:yaohappy:

Levity

03-07-2019, 03:14 PM

https://i.ibb.co/sFgwdM6/04-D4461-A-916-B-4-B60-AD31-7-F05-E1-E1-F1-B5.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

:eek:

bullettooth

03-07-2019, 03:20 PM

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-12-2018/f6LnV3.gif

dude couldn't deal with handchecking pressure from kobe- a smaller, weaker, less athletic, worse defender version of the goat.

Jesus christ, how many pushoffs is that?!

305Baller

03-07-2019, 03:23 PM

I think I would rather have Jordan at 40 than LeBron now, though. Jordan's skills were way superior.

MrFonzworth

03-07-2019, 03:24 PM

Jesus christ, how many pushoffs is that?!
Zero.

dazzer87

03-07-2019, 03:27 PM

MJ also has more rings in less finals appearances than LeThot......

SomeBlackDude

03-07-2019, 03:33 PM

Jesus christ, how many pushoffs is that?!

clearly not enough :(

if this man played in an era where defense was allowed, he'd have to play like a traditional pf. he would average like 12 to's/gm if he kept masquerading as a pg with his piss poor ballhandling skills. :roll: