Lowest Scoring Supporting Cast Overall Playoffs

[SamuraiSWISH]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.

[Smoke117]

LeBron > Kareem > Jordan

/thread

[SomeBlackDude]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.

theme- bron needs moar halp. :(

[SamuraiSWISH]

theme- bron needs moar halp. :(
Kareem and Magic too apparently

[StrongLurk]

Seems like the 90's was a low scoring era :confusedshrug:

MJ is the best scorer ever, but OP you should be using percentages instead of raw numbers...just a tip

[Smoke117]

Seems like the 90's was a low scoring era :confusedshrug:

MJ is the best scorer ever, but OP you should be using percentages instead of raw numbers...just a tip

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. The 90s was a very slow paced, defensive era for basketball. The triangle offense is also a slow and methodical paced offense in general. Don't bring this up, though. It will just get in the way of OP's Jordan dick sucking agenda.

[SouBeachTalents]

Seems like the 90's was a low scoring era :confusedshrug:

MJ is the best scorer ever, but OP you should be using percentages instead of raw numbers...just a tip
These were the only players I found that scored at least 30% of their teams playoff points

91-98 Jordan
94-95 Hakeem
2000 Shaq
2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2012 LeBron

[FKAri]

So the 2012 Heat was the GOAT carry job by LeGOAT? The only team in the top 10 to play in the modern fast paced pace and space era? I didn't believe but thanks for showing us all the light OP.

[SomeBlackDude]

These were the only players I found that scored at least 30% of their teams playoff points

91-98 Jordan
94-95 Hakeem
2000 Shaq
2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2012 LeBron

damn, lestans tried to grade on a curve and still failed.

[72-10]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urRhFLhlwt4

[plowking]

Does the supporting cast only score?

[Odinn]

These were the only players I found that scored at least 30% of their teams playoff points

91-98 Jordan
94-95 Hakeem
2000 Shaq
2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2012 LeBron
I know he didn't win the chip but he forced a game 7 in the finals, so he was as close as it gets. Scored nearly 32% of his teams total points in '74 playoffs.

[NBASTATMAN]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.

MJ is the GOAT but this makes MJ look like a ball hog.. Considering the 93 team is on that list and they did just fine without him the following season.. :confusedshrug:

[Akrazotile]

How many points did MJ's supporting cast average in 93-94?

[kennethgriffen]

is this adjusted for pace?


and the bulls were built for defense.. jordans scoring was just icing on the cake.

[Akrazotile]

How many points did MJ's supporting cast average in 93-94?


Get.

His.

ASS.

[diamenz]

How many points did MJ's supporting cast average in 93-94?

not enough to win the title, apparently.

[TheCorporation]

So the 2012 Heat was the GOAT carry job by LeGOAT? The only team in the top 10 to play in the modern fast paced pace and space era? I didn't believe but thanks for showing us all the light OP.


Wow goteeem again nice find :applause:

[TheCorporation]

How many points did MJ's supporting cast average in 93-94?

Get. his. ass.


57 to 55 wins too :lol

[Gileraracer]

MJ is the GOAT but this makes MJ look like a ball hog.. Considering the 93 team is on that list and they did just fine without him the following season.. :confusedshrug:

As long as he won the title :rockon:

[Duncan21formvp]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.
Spurs

[LeCroix]

Now do their FGA

:lol

[3ball]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.
Don't have a heart attack Roundball

MJ's lowest-scoring casts required goat volume from the #1 option that only MJ has a record of taking efficiently

Only mj won rings at high volume

[LeCroix]

Don't have a heart attack Roundball

MJ's lowest-scoring casts required goat volume from the #1 option that only MJ has a record of taking efficiently

Only mj won rings at high volume

FGA % THANKS :lol

Lemme guess

98 Bulls
MJ 50% of the fga


You lose again

[LeCroix]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.

Whats the theme? MJ takes all the shots? :lol

% of team's FGA in Finals

98 MJ: 164/453 (36.2%)
97 MJ: 159/449 (35.2%)
99 Tim: 95/337 (28.2%)
04 Rip: 92/366 (25.1%)
92 MJ: 154/478 (32.2%)
96 MJ: 123/474 (25.9%)
12 LBJ: 108/384 (28.3%)

[Smoke117]

These kind of threads go to show how simple Jordan stans are. They only look at the PPGZ and not anything else. I guess it doesn't matter than Pippen was best defensive player throughout the playoffs during the 97 and 98 playoffs for the bulls...he didn't score a lot of ppgz, though! That's what really matters!...lol, not actual all around impact or anything, but PPGZ...pathetic.

[LeCroix]

These kind of threads go to show how simple Jordan stans are. They only look at the PPGZ and not anything else. I guess it doesn't matter than Pippen was best defensive player throughout the playoffs during the 97 and 98 playoffs for the bulls...he didn't score a lot of ppgz, though! That's what really matters!...lol, not actual all around impact or anything, but PPGZ...pathetic.

Not only that, but MJ took way more shots too

% of team FGA for entire playoff run


1998 MJ
526/1610 (32.7%)

1997 MJ
498/1524 (32.7%)

2012 LBJ
502/1748 (28.71%)

LBJ doing goat carries again

[Smoke117]

Not only that, but MJ took way more shots too

% of team FGA for entire playoff run


1998 MJ
526/1610 (32.7%)

1997 MJ
498/1524 (32.7%)

2012 LBJ
502/1748 (28.71%)

LBJ doing goat carries again

My comment isn't meant for you. Go back and sit in the corner with your thumb in your mouth. You're part of the reason this board is full of just asinine bullshit.

[Uncle Drew]

Teams with low pace score the least points. What a revelation!

[LeCroix]

Teams with low pace score the least points. What a revelation!

And guys that take 33% of the teams shots score more!!1!1!!! :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

And how much did the Bulls opponents score?

Dumbass.

I feel like Pip, Grant/Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, etc all played a role in that. Just as the talent of those teams did.

Also MJ should have done better to facilitate, no?

Perfect artificial thread for the MJ Stan.

Nice and simple.

No details. The idiots of the basketball world.

[LeCroix]

And how much did the Bulls opponents score?

Dumbass.

I feel like Pip, Grant/Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, etc all played a role in that. Just as the talent of those teams did.

Also MJ should have done better to facilitate, no?

Perfect artificial thread for the MJ Stan.

Nice and simple.

No details. The idiots of the basketball world.

The whole thing is dumb and flawed. MJ took all the shots. 33% of the team's shots in fact!

% of FGA for entire playoff run


1998 MJ
526/1610 (32.7%)

1997 MJ
498/1524 (32.7%)

2012 LBJ
502/1748 (28.71%)

LBJ doing goat carries again

[BigShotBob]

The whole thing is dn and flawed. MJ took all the shots. 33% of the team's shots in fact!

% of FGA for entire playoff run


1998 MJ
526/1610 (32.7%)

1997 MJ
498/1524 (32.7%)

2012 LBJ
502/1748 (28.71%)

LBJ doing goat carries again

Lebron tried in 2015 but failed. Miserably.

Here's how the GOAT did it.


These were the only players I found that scored at least 30% of their teams playoff points

91-98 Jordan
94-95 Hakeem
2000 Shaq
2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2012 LeBron

Seven years. 6 championships. Never lost in the Finals.

[LeCroix]

Lebron tried in 2015 but failed. Miserably.

Here's how the GOAT did it.



Seven years. 6 championships. Never lost in the Finals.

Wheres Curry at Incel Welfare.Fan?

[Roundball_Rock]

And how much did the Bulls opponents score?

Dumbass.

I feel like Pip, Grant/Rodman, Harper, Kukoc, etc all played a role in that. Just as the talent of those teams did.

Also MJ should have done better to facilitate, no?

Perfect artificial thread for the MJ Stan.

Nice and simple.

No details. The idiots of the basketball world.

The 98' Jazz's second leading scorer was at 10.7 PPG. :lol


1. 98 Bulls 60.8

98' Jazz 55.2

Plus they keep harping on scoring numbers but when MJ is taking a record number of shots how many shots are left for the rest of the team? It is a disingenuous argument.

[kawhileonard2]

These were the only players I found that scored at least 30% of their teams playoff points

91-98 Jordan
94-95 Hakeem
2000 Shaq
2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2012 LeBron

Also Kawhi in 2019.

[ShawkFactory]

Jordan took 37% of the Bulls' shots in the 98 finals. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have done that but of course the supporting cast is going to score less in that case.

[ImKobe]

Jordan took 37% of the Bulls' shots in the 98 finals. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have done that but of course the supporting cast is going to score less in that case.

No shit. Pippen was limited and most of these games were close so MJ had to take a lot of shots in the 4th quarter. All but the one 40-pt blowout were within 5 pts and MJ averaged double-digit ppg in the 4th quarters. And when you look at the team's efficiency outside of MJ's, you can see why he took that many shots. Once Pippen got hurt, Kukoc was the only player besides MJ who the Bulls could rely on to score points. They were playing 4 on 5 on offense as is with Rodman on the court and Ron Harper nor Pippen could consistently make any jump shots or really attack the rim either.

[ShawkFactory]

No shit. Pippen was limited and most of these games were close so MJ had to take a lot of shots in the 4th quarter. All but the one 40-pt blowout were within 5 pts and MJ averaged double-digit ppg in the 4th quarters. And when you look at the team's efficiency outside of MJ's, you can see why he took that many shots. Once Pippen got hurt, Kukoc was the only player besides MJ who the Bulls could rely on to score points. They were playing 4 on 5 on offense as is with Rodman on the court and Ron Harper nor Pippen could consistently make any jump shots or really attack the rim either.

I understand what their situation was, thanks. That’s not what I was talking about.

People just often like to take the fact that something DID happen with good results and use that to mean something HAD to happen.

Take someone like Bird for instance. Maybe instead of him scoring 33 of 88 to make whatever percentage Jordan’s “help” had, maybe he scored 27 a game. And then maybe Lukoc scores a couple extra points a game. Same with Pippen. Instead of Longley scoring 5 a game maybe it’s 6.

Those 6 extra points Jordan scores could be made up in other ways pretty easily and people will view whoever scores 27 instead of 33 as having more help. Not always the case.

[ELITEpower23]

MJ takes all the shots and his stains wonder why he had more points

:oldlol:

[ImKobe]

I understand what their situation was, thanks. That’s not what I was talking about.

People just often like to take the fact that something DID happen with good results and use that to mean something HAD to happen.

Take someone like Bird for instance. Maybe instead of him scoring 33 of 88 to make whatever percentage Jordan’s “help” had, maybe he scored 27 a game. And then maybe Lukoc scores a couple extra points a game. Same with Pippen. Instead of Longley scoring 5 a game maybe it’s 6.

Those 6 extra points Jordan scores could be made up in other ways pretty easily and people will view whoever scores 27 instead of 33 as having more help. Not always the case.

MJ won 6 rings doing it his way and he won that series with ATG clutch plays, are you really trying to criticize him? Bird had McHale, the most skilled post scorer ever, and he had Robert Parish. MJ had Kukoc and a hobbled Pippen, who wasn't an efficient scorer to begin with lmao.. He averaged 2.9 ppg on 34%FG in 4th quarters in the POs that year, why should MJ have given him more shots?

[WhiteKyrie]

MJ takes all the shots and his stains wonder why he had more points

:oldlol:

He also WON more playing his way.

So technically, it worked to perfection. 6 for 6 perfection. 6 rings in 11 full seasons with the Bulls.

Happens when you’re the best player on both sides of the ball. While still running an offense that allowed others to touch the ball, shoot, dribble and make decisions. Being the ultimate ISO scorer, money time player with mental strength and killer instinct to finish an opponent.

He wasn’t trying to monopolize ball possession, by creating and wanting to finish. While simultaneously needing more talent and pressure / late game closers aka Kyrie and Wade.


And guys that take 33% of the teams shots score more!!1!1!!! :lol

Due to having less capable teammates in terms of talent to pick up scoring duties.

[FireDavidKahn]

Besides teams leading scorer

1. 98 Bulls 60.8
2. 97 Bulls 61.5
3. 99 Spurs 65.2
4. 04 Pistons 65.6
5. 92 Bulls 65.9
6. 96 Bulls 66.7
7. 12 Heat 67.0
8. 93 Bulls 67.3
9. 06 Heat 67.8
10. 94 Rockets 68.3

Hmm

Seems to be a reoccurring theme there.
Ya.

MJ was a ballhog and didn't let anyone else eat.

[ShawkFactory]

MJ won 6 rings doing it his way and he won that series with ATG clutch plays, are you really trying to criticize him? Bird had McHale, the most skilled post scorer ever, and he had Robert Parish. MJ had Kukoc and a hobbled Pippen, who wasn't an efficient scorer to begin with lmao.. He averaged 2.9 ppg on 34%FG in 4th quarters in the POs that year, why should MJ have given him more shots?

No. I think you need to read what I said again

[3ba11]

Lots of guys would go 2/4 with Wade/Bosh or 1/3 with Kyrie/Love, so Lebron didn't win with anything that others couldn't, whereas MJ won 6 Finals without a teammate getting FMVP or 25 ppg - no one else did that more than twice.

So MJ won with what others couldn't and Lebron didn't... :confusedshrug: