What happened to Avery Bradley?

[PeroAntic]

He went from the best man to man defender in the league a few years ago to a guy with negative impact on defense being shuffled from team to team.

Also he was a decent scorer just two years ago, but has averaged 9 points per game since leaving Boston. Hes showing signs of life on the offensive end for Memphis in a small sample but defense is still worse with him playing.

I don't recall him suffering any serious injuries tbh.

[Real14]

He was never that great and that's why Ray Allen left the celtics just like Stuckey was never that great to have Iverson benched for him on the pistons. Those GMs f.ucked up with those situations. REAL talk.

[PeroAntic]

I don't think anyone can argue he wasn't a lockdown defender for the Celtics for a few years

[keep-itreal]

Tony Allen types of players can't survive in today's NBA. If you're a guard you have to be able to shoot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense, if you can't provide anything on offense you're useless in modern NBA

[Real Men Wear Green]

He was never that great and that's why Ray Allen left the celtics just like Stuckey was never that great to have Iverson benched for him on the pistons. Those GMs f.ucked up with those situations. REAL talk.
Allen left because he was pissed at being put on the trade market in the past and he wanted a better shot at a ring. He didn't join Miami to become a starter, they had Wade.

Iverson had a steep decline that fnal year in Denver leading up to his trading. In Detroit he shot 41.6% to average 17.5 points. This is in 2009, when volume scoring had gone out of style. A volume scoring small guard like Iverson has a hard time when he starts to lose his athleticism and quickness. Iverson could have stuck around a little longer if he had been religious about taking care of his body but bottom line no one like that has been good after their prime. And at his best the rest of the roster still had to compensate for Iverson defensively. So if he isn't dominating as a scorer he isn't worth playing which the league proceeded to figure out from that point on.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So far in Memphis Bradley is averaging 17 points. It's just 10 games and the Clipper numbers aren't good but given the rest of his career it could just have been an aberration due to how he fit there.
Tony Allen types of players can't survive in today's NBA. If you're a guard you have to be able to shoot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense, if you can't provide anything on offense you're useless in modern NBA
1: Avery Bradley can shoot. His final year in Boston he hit 39% from three, and career he hit 36%. Hitting 41% in Memphis.

2: If a guy can defend the way Tony Allen defended he can carve a career out for himself in any era. As overboard as the NBA has gone with the officiating you still need a guy that can get you a stop on a critical possession, someone that you can leave alone vs a Harden or Curry for most of the game that will get more stops than most any other player would in that situation.

And unrelated to your point, I would like to mention that Allen should have been a Wade-like player and would have had he not suffered the knee injury on that stupid dunk. Oh well.

[Sakkreth]

Tony Allen types of players can't survive in today's NBA. If you're a guard you have to be able to shoot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense, if you can't provide anything on offense you're useless in modern NBA

Well, Avery Bradley can light it up, so idk what you mean.

[tamaraw08]

So far in Memphis Bradley is averaging 17 points. It's just 10 games and the Clipper numbers aren't good but given the rest of his career it could just have been an aberration due to how he fit there.
1: Avery Bradley can shoot. His final year in Boston he hit 39% from three, and career he hit 36%. Hitting 41% in Memphis.

2: If a guy can defend the way Tony Allen defended he can carve a career out for himself in any era. As overboard as the NBA has gone with the officiating you still need a guy that can get you a stop on a critical possession, someone that you can leave alone vs a Harden or Curry for most of the game that will get more stops than most any other player would in that situation.

And unrelated to your point, I would like to mention that Allen should have been a Wade-like player and would have had he not suffered the knee injury on that stupid dunk. Oh well.
great points esp the bolded parts with actual figures. :applause:
We need more posts like these and not more Lebron posts. :banghead:

[PeroAntic]

Tony Allen types of players can't survive in today's NBA. If you're a guard you have to be able to shoot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense, if you can't provide anything on offense you're useless in modern NBA
There are two problems here. First, as pointed out, Bradley can shoot. Two, now apparently hes not good on defense anymore. This one remains a mystery as to why.

[tamaraw08]

There are two problems here. First, as pointed out, Bradley can shoot. Two, now apparently hes not good on defense anymore. This one remains a mystery as to why.

28 yrs old, 518 games, it all adds up esp when you have earned 39 million dollars the past 11 years. I used to think Courtney Lee was a very good defender too but these guys also need fast feet to keep in step with quick guards. I predict Marcus Smart will not be as good in defending after 5 years or so

[Number34]

I haven

[Milbuck]

He was greatly overrated for years even before his post Celtics collapse.

[Smoke117]

He was greatly overrated for years even before his post Celtics collapse.

This. The Celtics regularly had a better defensive rating when he didn't play.

[Smoke117]

So far in Memphis Bradley is averaging 17 points. It's just 10 games and the Clipper numbers aren't good but given the rest of his career it could just have been an aberration due to how he fit there.
1: Avery Bradley can shoot. His final year in Boston he hit 39% from three, and career he hit 36%. Hitting 41% in Memphis.

2: If a guy can defend the way Tony Allen defended he can carve a career out for himself in any era. As overboard as the NBA has gone with the officiating you still need a guy that can get you a stop on a critical possession, someone that you can leave alone vs a Harden or Curry for most of the game that will get more stops than most any other player would in that situation.

And unrelated to your point, I would like to mention that Allen should have been a Wade-like player and would have had he not suffered the knee injury on that stupid dunk. Oh well.


You're joking right? Knee injury or not, Tony Allen was a complete buffoon on the offensive end. He had a terrible BBIQ on that end. Should have been a Wade like player...jesus christ. :oldlol:

[MrFonzworth]

Tony Allen types of players can't survive in today's NBA. If you're a guard you have to be able to shoot. It doesn't matter how good you are on defense, if you can't provide anything on offense you're useless in modern NBA
Andre Roberson? Dude won OKC so many games before his injuries.

[brooks_thompson]

You're joking right? Knee injury or not, Tony Allen was a complete buffoon on the offensive end. He had a terrible BBIQ on that end. Should have been a Wade like player...jesus christ. :oldlol:

No he wasn't and no he didn't. His offensive clutch regular season and playoff stats with Memphis were absurd as I recall. Just because he had the patented 'Tony Allen high dribble' and couldn't hit a jumpshot or layup reliably doesn't mean he was dumb.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You're joking right? Knee injury or not, Tony Allen was a complete buffoon on the offensive end. He had a terrible BBIQ on that end. Should have been a Wade like player...jesus christ. :oldlol:He was a dangerous slasher with elite athleticism. He wouldn't have been as good as Wade but on a lower level brought some of the same things to the table. The drink that got him injured was a dumb decision but he was not a stupid player. He became a great defender largely on the strength of studying opponents tendencies and figuring out how interrupt them.

[nightlight]

He was a dangerous slasher with elite athleticism. He wouldn't have been as good as Wade but on a lower level brought some of the same things to the table. The drink that got him injured was a dumb decision but he was not a stupid player. He became a great defender largely on the strength of studying opponents tendencies and figuring out how interrupt them.
smoke :roll: