View Full Version : Which Finals series does LBJ win FMVP with 18.5 GameScore
And1AllDay
03-12-2019, 02:01 PM
18.5 seems to be good enough for some
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 02:03 PM
2011 for sure.
Maybe even 2007, he had like a 10 GmSc in that one and they lost like 3 close games.
Rico2016
03-12-2019, 02:04 PM
2011 Probably.
Wade had 22 ish
So, no. Lol
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:08 PM
Which finals series does MJ lose while having a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc? Oh wait, he never lost one to begin with. My bad...
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 02:11 PM
Wade had 22 ish
So, no. Lol
Too bad FMVP isn't based off GmSc (A John Hollinger stat most people don't even care about).
Iggy won FMVP with 13.6 GmSc to Curry's 17.9.
Rico2016
03-12-2019, 02:12 PM
Which finals series does MJ lose while having a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc? Oh wait, he never lost one to begin with. My bad...
Against mechanics? Probably none
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:13 PM
Too bad FMVP isn't based off GmSc (A John Hollinger stat most people don't even care about).
Iggy won FMVP with 13.6 GmSc to Curry's 17.9.
You mean randomly picked stats aren't the end all, be all in determining the final score of a game? Will the OP kill himself* with this new information?
*One can hope
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:15 PM
Against mechanics? Probably none
I'm sorry but that isn't a sufficient reply.
So let's recap, Lebron lost a finals with a player who had a higher GmSc than anyone MJ ever played with? Is this true? :(
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 02:17 PM
You mean randomly picked stats aren't the end all, be all in determining the final score of a game? Will the OP kill himself* with this new information?
*One can hope
Yes please.
superduper
03-12-2019, 02:21 PM
Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?
Poetry
03-12-2019, 02:24 PM
18.5 seems to be good enough for some
Dirk beat Lebron with a GmSc of 16.6.
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:24 PM
Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?
So wait, you're telling me that end of prime Wade posted a higher GmSc than Lebron coming off back to back MVPs. I'm sorry but I outright refuse to believe this took place.
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:25 PM
Dirk beat Lebron with a GmSc of 16.6*.
*With Lebron having a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc. No way sir, you're lying.
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 02:26 PM
Dirk beat Lebron with a GmSc of 16.6.
:eek:
how's that even possible!
Poetry
03-12-2019, 02:28 PM
This thread should be merged with
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464150
Too many alts are making the same threads.
OP better hope I don't apply to be a mod.
superduper
03-12-2019, 02:33 PM
So wait, you're telling me that end of prime Wade posted a higher GmSc than Lebron coming off back to back MVPs. I'm sorry but I outright refuse to believe this took place.
I regret to inform you but that is, in fact, the case.
Le...GOAT :(
Manny98
03-12-2019, 02:36 PM
Which finals series does MJ lose while having a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc? Oh wait, he never lost one to begin with. My bad...
No one gives a **** about Wade's empty ass stats in the finals. He wanted to be the alpha but he failed
superduper
03-12-2019, 02:37 PM
No one gives a **** about Wade's empty ass stats in the finals. He wanted to be the alpha but he failed
Bran stans talking about empty stats and losing finals :biggums:
Can't make this shit up
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 02:57 PM
No one gives a **** about Wade's empty ass stats in the finals. He wanted to be the alpha but he failed
Is this kind of like 'nobody remembers 2011', except everyone does? :yaohappy:
So let's recap, Lebron had a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc, and lost to a player with a 16.6 GmSc. I'm shocked at this news, can anyone confirm? :(
Of course, Wade has absolutely no history of being a successful 'alpha':
http://www.nba.com/media/heat/wade7_300_060620.jpg
Oh wait...
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 03:01 PM
No one gives a **** about Wade's empty ass stats in the finals. He wanted to be the alpha but he failed
Wade ball ruined 2011
And I have a thread coming up about it, too.
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 03:09 PM
Wade ball ruined 2011
And I have a thread coming up about it, too.
Really? Tell us more. You don't make nearly enough threads on here.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 03:12 PM
Is this kind of like 'nobody remembers 2011', except everyone does? :yaohappy:
So let's recap, Lebron had a teammate with a 22.7 GmSc, and lost to a player with a 16.6 GmSc. I'm shocked at this news, can anyone confirm? :(
Of course, Wade has absolutely no history of being a successful 'alpha':
http://www.nba.com/media/heat/wade7_300_060620.jpg
Oh wait...
How many playoff series did Wade win from 07-10
That 4 year span surely if big alpha Wade is as good as you make him out too be he would have at least made it out the first round once right?:confusedshrug:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 03:24 PM
How many playoff series did Wade win from 07-10
That 4 year span surely if big alpha Wade is as good as you make him out too be he would have at least made it out the first round once right?:confusedshrug:
So to recap, Lebron in his MVP prime played with a guy who had a 22.7 GmSc, was a former Finals MVP, and lost to a player with a 16.6 GmSc. Sorry but I can't place Lebron as GOAT under these circumstances. :yaohappy:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 03:29 PM
How many playoff series did Wade win from 07-10
That 4 year span surely if big alpha Wade is as good as you make him out too be he would have at least made it out the first round once right?:confusedshrug:
Uh...OH! :eek:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 03:30 PM
Wait, so which Finals series does LBJ win FMVP with 18.5 GameScore again?
SouBeachTalents
03-12-2019, 03:31 PM
How many playoff series did Wade win from 07-10
That 4 year span surely if big alpha Wade is as good as you make him out too be he would have at least made it out the first round once right?:confusedshrug:
From 04-10
Wade: 7 playoff series wins, 1 title/FMVP
LeBron: 8 playoff series wins, 0 titles, 0 Finals wins
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 03:35 PM
From 04-10
Wade: 7 playoff series wins, 1 title/FMVP
LeBron: 8 playoff series wins, 0 titles, 0 Finals wins
:lebronamazed:
Spurs m8
03-12-2019, 03:35 PM
Op being slayed in his own threads as usual.
Youd think he would learn by now :roll:
Dude is so triggered he doesn't even know what's going on...dumber than a stack of bricks
superduper
03-12-2019, 03:42 PM
From 04-10
Wade: 7 playoff series wins, 1 title/FMVP
LeBron: 8 playoff series wins, 0 titles, 0 Finals wins
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sorry but you didn't conform to THEIR arbitrary timeline :(
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 03:49 PM
Wait, so which Finals series does LBJ win FMVP with 18.5 GameScore again?
Anyone at all?
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 03:53 PM
Wait, so which Finals series does LBJ win FMVP with 18.5 GameScore again?
Anyone at all?
So, was one of your alts supposed to quote you or you just in the habit of quoting yourself?
Poetry
03-12-2019, 03:54 PM
Anyone at all?
In 2013 LeBron had a GmSc of 22.5 at a pace of 88.1.
Jordan's 18.5 GmSc occurred at a pace of 83.5.
The adjusted GmSc is probably very close.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 03:57 PM
From 04-10
Wade: 7 playoff series wins, 1 title/FMVP
LeBron: 8 playoff series wins, 0 titles, 0 Finals wins
Wade 0 playoff wins without LeBron or Shaq :roll: :roll: :roll:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 04:00 PM
So, was one of your alts supposed to quote you or you just in the habit of quoting yourself?
What do you think, genius...:hammerhead:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 04:00 PM
Wade 0 playoff wins without LeBron or Shaq :roll: :roll: :roll:
:eek: Boom
SouBeachTalents
03-12-2019, 04:00 PM
Wade 0 playoff wins without LeBron or Shaq :roll: :roll: :roll:
He won his very first playoff series without either of them :oldlol:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 04:01 PM
He won his very first playoff series without either of them :oldlol:
:eek:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 04:03 PM
What do you think, genius...:hammerhead:
:confusedshrug: I'm still learning how people born from sibling fornication act. It's been quite the experience observing you in any event.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 04:07 PM
He won his very first playoff series without either of them :oldlol:
He wasn't the best player so it doesn't count
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 04:08 PM
He won his very first playoff series without either of them :oldlol:
Manny98 confirmed to be swimming around in his dads ******* in 2004.
Rico2016
03-12-2019, 04:08 PM
He wasn't the best player so it doesn't count
Fair point if ya ask me
superduper
03-12-2019, 04:09 PM
Manny98 confirmed to be swimming around in his dads ******* in 2004.
Dude stop proving Manny wrong he's going to spam unrelated pics over and over again
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 04:17 PM
He wasn't the best player so it doesn't count
2016 - led his team in pts and assists, was one game away from reaching the ECF with Whiteside injured against Toronto. Should have won in 6, but his team dropped a Game 3 at home, where he had 38/8/4 on 67%TS.
That's the series Biyombo turned into Bill Russell and earned himself a fat contract :lol
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 04:28 PM
OP's shit is so far pushed in he's practically dining on it at this point.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 04:39 PM
2016 - led his team in pts and assists, was one game away from reaching the ECF with Whiteside injured against Toronto. Should have won in 6, but his team dropped a Game 3 at home, where he had 38/8/4 on 67%TS.
That's the series Biyombo turned into Bill Russell and earned himself a fat contract :lol
So he still lost
The fact remains Wade hasn't won **** all as the best player without Shaq or LeBron
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 04:47 PM
So he still lost
The fact remains Wade hasn't won **** all as the best player without Shaq or LeBron
So Shaq and Pau haven't won shit as the best player without Kobe either :eek:
I don't want to hear about you talking about the 1994 Bulls ever again either.
You better stay consistent with this shit.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 04:47 PM
OP's shit is so far pushed in he's practically dining on it at this point.
You haven't pushed anyones shit in you delusional moron :oldlol:
Manny98
03-12-2019, 04:51 PM
So Shaq and Pau haven't won shit as the best player without Kobe either :eek:
I don't want to hear about you talking about the 1994 Bulls ever again either.
You better stay consistent with this shit.
Shaq got to the finals without Kobe dummy :oldlol:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 04:52 PM
You haven't pushed anyones shit in you delusional moron :oldlol:
So to recap you micro-dicked little inbreed, Wade's never had a 10.6 Gm finals, and his 22.7 occurred in a finals where Lebron lost to a guy with a 16.6? Is this true? :eek:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 04:53 PM
Shaq got to the finals without Kobe dummy :oldlol:
But I'm saying....10.6 GmSc for Bronny in a finals. Just a refresher....
ImKobe
03-12-2019, 04:54 PM
Shaq got to the finals without Kobe dummy :oldlol:
Of course a Lebron stan thinks losing in the Finals = winning something
:roll:
But I'm saying....10.6 GmSc for Bronny in a finals. Just a refresher....
That's a whole point worse than an injured Kobe against arguably the GOAT defense :kobe:
Manny98
03-12-2019, 05:14 PM
But I'm saying....10.6 GmSc for Bronny in a finals. Just a refresher....
He was 22 years old idiot what did Jordan do at 22 get swept in the first round :roll:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 05:28 PM
He was 22 years old idiot what did Jordan do at 22 get swept in the first round :roll:
So what happened in 2011? 26, coming off an MVP, 8 years of experience. Age a factor? Nope. Experience? Try again
So we're playing the 'inexperience' angle, are we? So, he wasn't 'too young' to beat the Pistons, a perennial contender and 94 champion,to get to the finals but age suddenly became a factor against the Spurs?
KD was 23 in his 5th season when he hung 31ppg on peak Lebron in his first finals. Didn't win, but didn't shrink under the pressure, his age or the moment.
Magic was a 20 year old rookie when he hung 42/15/7 on the Sixers in the finals to win the title.
Wade was a 24 year old 3rd year player when he went apeshit on Dallas and won finals MVP
Duncan was a 23rd year old 2nd year player when he won finals MVP in 99.
All of those players were within his age range and all but Durant had less NBA experience under their belts when they performed at the highest level on the biggest stage. Fukk outta here with the 'bu bu but he was too young:cry: ' bullshit.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 05:37 PM
So what happened in 2011? 26, coming off an MVP, 8 years of experience. Age a factor? Nope. Experience? Try again
So we're playing the 'inexperience' angle, are we? So, he wasn't 'too young' to beat the Pistons, a perennial contender and 94 champion,to get to the finals but age suddenly became a factor against the Spurs?
KD was 23 in his 5th season when he hung 31ppg on peak Lebron in his first finals. Didn't win, but didn't shrink under the pressure, his age or the moment.
Magic was a 20 year old rookie when he hung 42/15/7 on the Sixers in the finals to win the title.
Wade was a 24 year old 3rd year player when he went apeshit on Dallas and won finals MVP
Duncan was a 23rd year old 2nd year player when he won finals MVP in 99.
All of those players were within his age range and all but Durant had less NBA experience under their belts when they performed at the highest level on the biggest stage. Fukk outta here with the 'bu bu but he was too young:cry: ' bullshit.
Still better than Mr I can't get past the first round till my mid twenties :roll: :roll:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 05:39 PM
Still better than Mr I can't get past the first round till my mid twenties :roll: :roll:
Imagine thinking this reply isn't weak as shit. Kinda like that 10.6 GmSc eh?
E_Stamkos
03-12-2019, 06:29 PM
So what happened in 2011? 26, coming off an MVP, 8 years of experience. Age a factor? Nope. Experience? Try again
So we're playing the 'inexperience' angle, are we? So, he wasn't 'too young' to beat the Pistons, a perennial contender and 94 champion,to get to the finals but age suddenly became a factor against the Spurs?
KD was 23 in his 5th season when he hung 31ppg on peak Lebron in his first finals. Didn't win, but didn't shrink under the pressure, his age or the moment.
Magic was a 20 year old rookie when he hung 42/15/7 on the Sixers in the finals to win the title.
Wade was a 24 year old 3rd year player when he went apeshit on Dallas and won finals MVP
Duncan was a 23rd year old 2nd year player when he won finals MVP in 99.
All of those players were within his age range and all but Durant had less NBA experience under their belts when they performed at the highest level on the biggest stage. Fukk outta here with the 'bu bu but he was too young:cry: ' bullshit.
Manny receiving one of his many daily curb stomps, I see.
This kid is the Glass Joe of Insidehoops. Just an unmitigated failure in every aspect of the word.
Quit being a perennial disappointment to all of your Tita's and Tito's. Get off the internet and finally get a job to help support your family. You absolute waste man.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 06:36 PM
Imagine thinking this reply isn't weak as shit. Kinda like that 10.6 GmSc eh?
1-9 :roll:
Manny98
03-12-2019, 06:37 PM
Manny receiving one of his many daily curb stomps, I see.
This kid is the Glass Joe of Insidehoops. Just an unmitigated failure in every aspect of the word.
Quit being a perennial disappointment to all of your Tita's and Tito's. Get off the internet and finally get a job to help support your family. You absolute waste man.
Phoenix can't stomp an ant if he tried :roll:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 06:38 PM
1-9 :roll:
So a 10.6 GmSc, you say? :yaohappy:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 06:41 PM
Manny receiving one of his many daily curb stomps, I see.
This kid is the Glass Joe of Insidehoops. Just an unmitigated failure in every aspect of the word.
Quit being a perennial disappointment to all of your Tita's and Tito's. Get off the internet and finally get a job to help support your family. You absolute waste man.
:lol Perfect analogy.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 06:42 PM
So a 10.6 GmSc, you say? :yaohappy:
LeBron at 22 = finals
MJ at 22 = first round exit
Idgf about 2007 btw
LeBron has 3 of the top 10 GmSc in finals history that's all that matters
superduper
03-12-2019, 06:43 PM
Please love my Bran :cry:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 06:58 PM
LeBron at 22 = finals
MJ at 22 = first round exit
Idgf about 2007 btw
LeBron has 3 of the top 10 GmSc in finals history that's all that matters
Lebron's first 2 finals =colossal fukkup.
MJs first finals = 31/11/7, finals MVP
IDGAF about 1-9 btw
Lebron lost a finals in his prime with a 22.7 GmSc teammate to one with a 16.6 GmSc that's all that matters k thx by
Leviathon1121
03-12-2019, 07:09 PM
Lebron's first 2 finals =colossal fukkup.
MJs first finals = 31/11/7, finals MVP
IDGAF about 1-9 btw
Lebron lost a finals in his prime with a 22.7 GmSc teammate to one with a 16.6 GmSc that's all that matters k thx by
:lebronamazed:
Manny98
03-12-2019, 07:23 PM
Lebron's first 2 finals =colossal fukkup.
MJs first finals = 31/11/7, finals MVP
IDGAF about 1-9 btw
Lebron lost a finals in his prime with a 22.7 GmSc teammate to one with a 16.6 GmSc that's all that matters k thx by
MJs 4 highest GmSc in the finals - 29.4,25.8,29.6,23.4 - average = 27
LeBrons 4 highest GmSc - 26.5,29.6,28.3,24.6 - average = 27.25
LeBron is the GOAT finals performer comfirmed thx for playing but you lose
Manny98
03-12-2019, 07:30 PM
Out of curiosity let me add up Kobes top 4 finals
17.2,20.3,22.8,18.7 - average = 19.75 that's worse than i thought jesus :roll: :roll: :roll:
Poetry
03-12-2019, 07:32 PM
LeBron at 22 = finals
MJ at 22 = first round exit
By the age of 21, MJ had won Olympic Gold, Pan American Gold, and an NCAA title.
No bronze for him.
knicksman
03-12-2019, 07:36 PM
Out of curiosity let me add up Kobes top 4 finals
17.2,20.3,22.8,18.7 - average = 19.75 that's worse than i thought jesus :roll: :roll: :roll:
1 sidekick ring is better than 3 ringchasers rings. Imagine respecting those. You must be losing so much in life to be contented with that:lol
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 07:46 PM
MJs 4 highest GmSc in the finals - 29.4,25.8,29.6,23.4 - average = 27
LeBrons 4 highest GmSc - 26.5,29.6,28.3,24.6 - average = 27.25
LeBron is the GOAT finals performer comfirmed thx for playing but you lose
Unfortunately, GmSc doesn't translate to championships. Alot of players have won championships with GmScs lower than Lebron. Lebron has lost finals to players who didn't even crack a 20 GmSc. Next, while this has been a cute little timewaster, let's establish that you have no fukking clue what GmSc is, like the rest of your retarded arguments you saw a number you could throw as evidence that 2 is greater than 1 without the ability to contextualize the stats. The irony is that you enjoy playing up these eye-popping numbers but downplay what he has more of compared to any all-time great on his level and that's 6, as in the amount of finals he's lost. If you make the finals in your conference there's an expectation that you're good enough to be a viable championship threat, and not bantha fodder for the other conference's team the majority of the time. You champion 'losing in the finals' in much the same way we celebrate a child getting a brownie for finishing a race even if they're last. And if they don't finish, fukk it they're still a winner.
This is sports. You either win or you fukking lose, whether it's the first round or the finals, or missing the playoffs. It's just various degrees of failure unless you win the championship, and all you have to hang your hat on is Lebron putting up bigger numbers than most while failing more often than anyone you think he warrants comparison with. It's the millennial 'everyone's a winner even when they lose' narrative that defines little inbred c*nts like you.
Poetry
03-12-2019, 07:49 PM
According to FiveThirtyEight, Jordan has the highest career game score average in the finals when adjusted for pace. Followed by either Shaq or Durant, I forget which.
Without taking pace into account:
Jordan 24.5
Durant 25.9
Shaq 22.6
LeBron 22.6
When you adjust for pace, Jordan and Shaq go even higher. Jordan has an adjusted career GmSc of around 27.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 07:55 PM
Unfortunately, GmSc doesn't translate to championships. Alot of players have won championships with GmScs lower than Lebron. Lebron has lost finals to players who didn't even crack a 20 GmSc. Next, while this has been a cute little timewaster, let's establish that you have no fukking clue what GmSc is, like the rest of your retarded arguments you saw a number you could throw as evidence that 2 is greater than 1 without the ability to contextualize the stats. The irony is that you enjoy playing up these eye-popping numbers but downplay what he has more of compared to any all-time great on his level and that's 6, as in the amount of finals he's lost. You champion 'losing in the finals' in much the same way we celebrate a child getting a brownie for finishing a race even if they're last. And if they don't finish, fukk it they're still a winner.
This is sports. You either win or you fukking lose, whether it's the first round or the finals, or missing the playoffs. It's just various degrees of failure unless you win the championship, and all you have to hang your hat on is Lebron putting up bigger numbers than most while failing more often than anyone you think he warrants comparison with. It's the millennial 'everyone's a winner even when they lose' narrative that defines little inbred c*nts like you.
27.25 > 27 LeBrons the GOAT finals performer accept it
Winning has to do with who has the better overall team, LeBron had the GOAT finals performance and still lost because he faced the GOAT team
https://i.postimg.cc/mDgK7RHP/lebron-james-first-player-to-average-a-triple-double-in-nba-2272.png
SamuraiSWISH
03-12-2019, 07:56 PM
Mike won that series in game three. So it really didn’t matter
Manny98
03-12-2019, 07:56 PM
According to FiveThirtyEight, Jordan has the highest career game score average in the finals when adjusted for pace. Followed by either Shaq or Durant, I forget which.
Without taking pace into account:
Jordan 24.5
Durant 25.9
Shaq 22.6
LeBron 22.6
When you adjust for pace, Jordan and Shaq go even higher. Jordan has an adjusted career GmSc of around 27.
Link?
Poetry
03-12-2019, 08:00 PM
Link?
I'll post them in a new thread, because the topic is related to another topic I was going to make. The numbers are embedded too, so I have to screenshot them. Give me like 10 minutes.
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 08:09 PM
27.25 > 27 LeBrons the GOAT finals performer accept it
Winning has to do with who has the better overall team, LeBron had the GOAT finals performance and still lost because he faced the GOAT team
Lebron should have been 'GOAT' enough to be the foundation of a dynasty and not play mercenary with cherry-picked co-stars and specialized players who can work around his skillset. There's enough of us here that's not going to allow little shits like you to turn the GOAT argument into who loses the best. That's never been the case before, it's not going to be now because the 'everyone's a winner' little basement dwellers decide that's the standard going forward.
Just accept you day is based on getting your shit pushed in time and time again on a message board. Eventually you'll have had enough and go shoot yourself out the back. Nobody will miss you, including the siblings living upstairs you call 'mom and dad'.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 08:21 PM
Lebron should have been 'GOAT' enough to be the foundation of a dynasty and not play mercenary with cherry-picked co-stars and specialized players who can work around his skillset. There's enough of us here that's not going to allow little shits like you to turn the GOAT argument into who loses the best. That's never been the case before, it's not going to be now because the 'everyone's a winner' little basement dwellers decide that's the standard going forward.
Just accept you day is based on getting your shit pushed in time and time again on a message board. Eventually you'll have had enough and go shoot yourself out the back. Nobody will miss you, including the siblings living upstairs you call 'mom and dad'.
How can you have a dynasty with Mo Williams as your second option retard
The Heat would have been a dynasty if they teamed up earlier
And the Kyrie/Love/LeBron would have been a dynasty as well if not for KDs decision + injurys in 2015
So LeBron is GOAT enough to have a dynasty he just had bad Luck
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 08:33 PM
How can you have a dynasty with Mo Williams as your second option retard
The Heat would have been a dynasty if they teamed up earlier
And the Kyrie/Love/LeBron would have been a dynasty as well if not for KDs decision + injurys in 2015
So LeBron is GOAT enough to have a dynasty he just had bad Luck
Don't care. I don't fault Lebron from 2003 to 2010. The Cavs front office was shit. Since then? He decided to go Miami. He decided to leave Miami. He decided to go back to Cleveland. He decided to leave Cleveland. He decided to go to LA. All of his career moves the last 9 years are his choices. His choices of teammates, his choices of franchises. Injuries? Tough, they're part of the game. Injuries have prevented alot of things from happening. Tmac should have been one of the greatest players ever, injuries destroyed him. Same for Penny. We don't ignore that and rank them higher out of sympathy. This isn't 'Lebron is GOAT because we're going to throw a boo-hoo party because of injuries/luck/ Warriors' and whatever other barrier you think exists. KD absolutely upset the cart in 2016. Guess who showed him the way?
His career is what it is. Deal with it.
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:48 PM
LeBron at 22 = finals
MJ at 22 = first round exit
Idgf about 2007 btw
LeBron has 3 of the top 10 GmSc in finals history that's all that matters
And two of the top 5, including the #1all-time best Finals game
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:49 PM
How can you have a dynasty with Mo Williams as your second option retard
The Heat would have been a dynasty if they teamed up earlier
And the Kyrie/Love/LeBron would have been a dynasty as well if not for KDs decision + injurys in 2015
So LeBron is GOAT enough to have a dynasty he just had bad Luck
Ether
Big facts for the kids
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:50 PM
According to FiveThirtyEight, Jordan has the highest career game score average in the finals when adjusted for pace. Followed by either Shaq or Durant, I forget which.
Without taking pace into account:
Jordan 24.5
Durant 25.9
Shaq 22.6
LeBron 22.6
When you adjust for pace, Jordan and Shaq go even higher. Jordan has an adjusted career GmSc of around 27.
Do we "account for pace" with ppg too? Rpg? Apg?
:lol Too funny
Manny98
03-12-2019, 08:51 PM
Don't care. I don't fault Lebron from 2003 to 2010. The Cavs front office was shit. Since then? He decided to go Miami. He decided to leave Miami. He decided to go back to Cleveland. He decided to leave Cleveland. He decided to go to LA. All of his career moves the last 9 years are his choices. His choices of teammates, his choices of franchises. Injuries? Tough, they're part of the game. Injuries have prevented alot of things from happening. Tmac should have been one of the greatest players ever, injuries destroyed him. Same for Penny. We don't ignore that and rank them higher out of sympathy. This isn't 'Lebron is GOAT because we're going to throw a boo-hoo party because of injuries/luck/ Warriors' and whatever other barrier you think exists. KD absolutely upset the cart in 2016. Guess who showed him the way?
His career is what it is. Deal with it.
Meh still the GOAT at the end of the day
3 rings ,3 FMVPs, 4 MVPs ,9 finals appearances, GOAT stats in the regular season and the postseason, godlike longevity can't beat that resume unless your playing in a watered-down era
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 08:54 PM
Meh still the GOAT at the end of the day
3 rings 3 FMVPs 4 MVPs 9 finals appearances can't beat that resume unless your playing in a watered-down era
Meh go kill yourself. Your GcSc argument got destroyed a few pages back and now you're hanging around like that last floater that just won't flush.
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:55 PM
Meh still the GOAT at the end of the day
3 rings ,3 FMVPs, 4 MVPs ,9 finals appearances, GOAT stats in the regular season and the postseason, godlike longevity can't beat that resume unless your playing in a watered-down era
Against dynasties, too
Now imagine if he played mechanics and grocery baggers and 6'3 Payton
7 for 6? :confusedshrug:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:56 PM
Meh go kill yourself. Your GcSc argument got destroyed a few pages back and now you're hanging around like that last floater that just won't flush.
LeBron has two games ranked higher than Jordan's best ever finals performance. Let that sink in
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 08:58 PM
LeBron has two games ranked higher than Jordan's best ever finals performance. Let that sink in
3*/9
* lockout, bailout. Let that sink in.
Manny98
03-12-2019, 08:58 PM
Meh go kill yourself. Your GcSc argument got destroyed a few pages back and now you're hanging around like that last floater that just won't flush.
Meltdown :oldlol:
none of my arguments have been destroyed i win again have a nice day :cheers:
TheCorporation
03-12-2019, 08:59 PM
3*/9
* lockout, bailout. Let that sink in.
Dumb
1-9
Bye
superduper
03-12-2019, 09:01 PM
Dumb
1-9
Bye
1*/9 :rockon:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 09:02 PM
Meltdown :oldlol:
none of my arguments have been destroyed i win again have a nice day :cheers:
ALL destroyed, over and over. :cheers:
Phoenix
03-12-2019, 09:02 PM
Dumb
1-9
Bye
6/6 biatch
Ta-ta fakkit
3ball
03-12-2019, 09:11 PM
Meh still the GOAT at the end of the day
3 rings (6 rings)... 3 fmvps (6 fmvp).. 4 mvps (5 mvp and dpoy)... 9 finals appearances (from the East; makes 1-2 Finals out West)... GOAT stats in the regular season and the postseason (inferior ppg, oreb, spg, ft, TO, usage, offensive efficiency, PER, average WS)... godlike longevity (yet only 3 rings, and Kobe/KAJ >>>)... can't beat that resume unless your playing in a watered-down era (today's era has the worst drtg ever)
All the points you made above are superceded by the counters in parentheses... :cheers: .. :rockon:
MJistheGOAT
03-12-2019, 09:41 PM
These Lebron stans and their multiple Alt's are killing ISH
Weak arguments, phalacies and excuses everywhere
Total stats > per game
Lebron competition > MJ
Lebron a better scorer than MJ
3/9 > 6/6
4 MVPs and 3 FMVPs > 5 MVPs and 6 FMVPs
Pippen > Wade + Bosh and Kyrie + Love
80s Celtics, showtime lakers, bad boys, 90s knicks, kemp/payton, stockton/Malone, etc = mechanics and milkmen
And now using GameScore, an obsolete metric NOT adjusted by pace/minutes played to compare players of different eras
AirFederer
03-13-2019, 01:29 PM
Lebron's first 2 finals =colossal fukkup.
MJs first finals = 31/11/7, finals MVP
IDGAF about 1-9 btw
Lebron lost a finals in his prime with a 22.7 GmSc teammate to one with a 16.6 GmSc that's all that matters k thx by
Huge lebrown fan here, he
superduper
03-13-2019, 01:54 PM
All the points you made above are superceded by the counters in parentheses...
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:bowdown: :bowdown:
And1AllDay
03-13-2019, 02:11 PM
Which
Series
18.5 GmScore :(
Pls respond?
None???
SpaceJam2
04-07-2019, 12:35 AM
Hmm does anyone know?
And1AllDay
05-06-2019, 02:23 AM
Which Finals series does LBJ win FMVP with 18.5 GameScore
LostCause
05-06-2019, 05:51 AM
Who could win a Finals as a superstar with a Gamescore of 10 or 13??
Oh. I suppose it makes sense they lost
Gileraracer
05-06-2019, 05:57 AM
Hmm since he has an individual chance of 66.6% to lose a finals series i don't think he would win many.
Cali Syndicate
05-06-2019, 06:03 AM
I thought Rodman and Pippen carried MJ? How did both Kemp and Shrempf put up better numbers than them?
Poetry
05-06-2019, 08:19 AM
Miami lost two games in the 2011 finals by a combined 5 points. If LeBron had just scored 7 more points in that series they could have won the 2011 finals.
Leviathon1121
05-06-2019, 09:24 AM
Meh still the GOAT at the end of the day
3 rings ,3 FMVPs, 4 MVPs ,9 finals appearances, GOAT stats in the regular season and the postseason, godlike longevity can't beat that resume unless your playing in a watered-down era
He
LostCause
05-06-2019, 10:06 AM
LeBron has two games ranked higher than Jordan's best ever finals performance. Let that sink in
What about a series? Rank those
It takes 4 games to win a series. No wonder you bums are using single game and "3-game stretches":oldlol: It's like you KNOW he comes up short to win a series. It's like bragging about how fast someone got to 75 meters in a 100 meter dash they lost.
Brons the best of all time at almost finishing the race. Or coming up short. I think y'all made a convincing case for that
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