View Full Version : Why isn't John collins in MIP discussion?
BigKAT
03-13-2019, 08:18 PM
Guy went from 10 PPG to 20PPG.
I know he's a sophomore, but if it doesn't hurt Fox's case, why should it hurt his?
Kblaze8855
03-13-2019, 08:26 PM
I dont think it has much to do with him. Fox is on a 500 team in the west that is playing above expectations. Collins team is...whatever the Hawks are.
I like him a lot. And im sure he will get a lot of votes. He might even win. But the media isnt gonna zero in too much on him. Its hard talking up two young guys on a 20 whatever win team. Trae is the guard. Hes gonna get the love these days even though Collins is the best player on the team.
AirTupac
03-13-2019, 08:28 PM
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
Sportal
03-13-2019, 08:30 PM
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
Now hang on Doofus, I swear you were pushing for Ingram for MIP in his 2nd season... :roll:
BigKAT
03-13-2019, 08:33 PM
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
That's a fair point,
So why was Fox the frontrunner the whole year until Siakam surged?
Celtics 1825
03-13-2019, 08:41 PM
Sophomores shouldn't be in MIP conversations, they're SUPPOSED to be better than their rookie year. It's something we expect from basically all rookies.
fsvr54
03-13-2019, 08:50 PM
It should be Siakam, but I have him right there. Trae gets more press, but Collins is our best player right now.
I'm a Hawks fan btw.
Meticode
03-13-2019, 09:15 PM
Siakam
Went from 51% FG% to 55% FG%
Went from 22% 3P% to 36% 3P%
Went from 62% FT% to 77 FT%
Went from 7.3 PPG to 16.4 PPG
Went from 4.5 RPG to 7.0 RPG
AirTupac
03-13-2019, 09:25 PM
Now hang on Doofus, I swear you were pushing for Ingram for MIP in his 2nd season... :roll:
No i didnt you stupid incel retard :roll:
BarberSchool
03-13-2019, 09:27 PM
Fair point but going against Siakam seems insurmountable.
Phenith
03-14-2019, 09:09 AM
Siakam
Went from 51% FG% to 55% FG%
Went from 22% 3P% to 36% 3P%
Went from 62% FT% to 77 FT%
Went from 7.3 PPG to 16.4 PPG
Went from 4.5 RPG to 7.0 RPG
Don't forget he went from a bench player to a starter, and he's a huge piece of one of the best teams in the league and has to play against opponents best effort nightly.
He's got MIP locked up methinks.
iamgine
03-14-2019, 10:17 AM
There's no problem with sophomore getting MIP, as evidenced by Monta Ellis winning it in his sophomore season.
My frontrunner for MIP is Nikola Vucevic. I think he deserved it the most.
FireDavidKahn
03-14-2019, 11:09 AM
Because rookies to sophmores dont get those awards retard. Its progression that they get better after their rookie year.
....Which would be their sophomore year:facepalm
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