How did you feel about Ron Artest as a player?

[Kblaze8855]

Most talk about him of course isnt about on the court....but thats what id like your opinion on.

Peak Ron Artest.....how did you feel about him?

He was a terror on D and maintain that even as he got older...but he didnt get up for many battles. When he wanted to bring it in his Rocket/Laker days he still could. Like when he went in on Melo:





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Ron had quick hands and quicker feet than he should have had at his size(he played from 240 to 280 depending on the season). And he turned into a better shooter than you probably remember him being. I always found him so awkward though. I always thought he moved like fat kid who went into a coma and came out slim and didnt know how normal people moved. Ron just bumbled around like he his mind didnt know how athletic his body was...he did score though. He could score 18-20...lock people up. One of the few wing DPOY winners of his time. Hell he, Leonard, and GP are the only ones in the 30 years since Jordan won it in 88. But we all know people dont consider defensive stars "real".

And with Ron especially it always comes back to the physical play that makes you forget he was also good at basketball.






The Harden attempted murder:


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How hed occasionally just slam someone for no good reason like he did Big Dog:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LimitedOffensiveAsiaticmouflon-size_restricted.gif






How he made Tyler back down and cancel his plans to act tough.



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Speaking of which:




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[Xiao Yao You]

low IQ. Wouldn't have wanted him on my team

[Prometheus]

Hell yes he could have won as the no. 2

[scuzzy]

One of the best perimeter Forwards of the 21st century


Like Rodman, excelled at their role on the team without needing touches


Guard opposing teams best scorer, needs no attention on offense, can score in the clutch at will. Perfect fit for Kobe ball

[Uncle Drew]

He cost the Pacers a title in 05.

[Dray n Klay]

Hit the clutchest shot in NBA History in the 2010 Finals

[Overdrive]

Ron had quick hands and quicker feet than he should have had at his size(he played from 240 to 280 depending on the season). And he turned into a better shooter than you probably remember him being. I always found him so awkward though. I always thought he moved like fat kid who went into a coma and came out slim and didnt know how normal people moved. Ron just bumbled around like he his mind didnt know how athletic his body was..

Just like Rodman. Superquick and athletic without the ball, but once they had to dribble and jump with it it looked like it put 100 extra pounds on them.

[Akrazotile]

Yeah, definitely think his D gets underrated today. In Houston and LA he was relied on for offense, and I think between that and his reputation for eccentricity, his vice grip defense as a Pacer gets overshadowed.

A lot of people think the malice cost them a chip in 04, which someone said in this thread. Those Pacer teams were never gonna win a title. Reggie was old by then, and Jermaine ONeal was pretty overrated IMO. They had talent on paper but I dont see them beating the Lakers or Spurs in a final. Detroit was the better all around team. Kobe would have had to drop twice the clunker he did against Detroit for IND to have a chance. I mean Shaq steamrolled Ben Wallace in the finals, what do you think he’d do against the Pacers?? Probably the same thing he did a few years earlier.

[paksat]

great great defender

great

[bladefd]

He was one hell of a player, but he had so many issues mentally that kept him from truly appreciating his greatness and reaching his full potential. If he had his head on right, he had potential to be a top 10 nba player for 6-7 years straight there in mid-2000s.. But he was a mess mentally.

Still, he was someone you wanted on your side. He tormented opponents and covered the passing lanes well. He was strong and powerful enough to defend anyone from sg to the strongest pfs, some centers too. Sure, he could have been greater, but he was still very good. Without him, Lakers don't win that title versus Celtics.

In the end, I appreciate Artest as a player. He battled his mental demons and still was crucial in multiple title wins. I don't think we will ever see another Artest again, especially with these rule changes and softness we see in nba. You can't be anywhere as physical anymore.. The days when Artest clipped you and pushed you around with his sheer strength are over.. :(

[LukeWalton]

underrated player and good teammate... as a Laker and a Rocket

but he screwed over Indiana though.

[red1]

lovable lunatic. borderline all-star in his prime.


pulled his weight when it mattered.

[NBASTATMAN]

Ron was a great defender and the last guy to put the clamps on KD.. Obviously Ron got away with plenty of pushing and slapping to slow down a guy like KD.. But he also had extemely fast hands and could strip anyone..

Ron may have not PUT UP NUMBERS as big as Tmac but was able to bring Houston into the second round vs the Lakers the one year he played for them..Something Tmac was never able to do.. People forget that Yao was hurt in that series and Ron almost carried the Rockets to a series win vs Lakers that had Kobe and Pau... The guy was an impact player there is no debating that...

He was part of Pacers team in 2004 that had the best defense.. Yep better than The Pistons defense that shut down THE LAKERS in the FINALS..

Ron was mostly black balled after that big fight in Detroit.. Only making the all defensive team once after that fight.. Even though he thrived with the Kings both offensively and defensively.. And then more of a defensive stopper with THE LAKERS..

[highwhey]

very good 2 way player.

i actually have to thank him for turning me into a big NBA fan. i watched the malice at the palace live on tv as it happened. been addicted to this league since.

[Akrazotile]

very good 2 way player.

i actually have to thank him for turning me into a big NBA fan. i watched the malice at the palace live on tv as it happened. been addicted to this league since.


One of those “I remember where I was...” things for everyone who saw it :oldlol:


Id just got home to my apt after a shift delivering pizzas. Flipped on the tv to espn, saw the game was just about over, and right as I was about click the “channel up” button, the artest-wallace scrum started.

5 minutes later Im frantically calling a buddy.

“Hello?”
“Dude, are you seeing....”
“YES!!!!!”

Both of us: “This is awesome!!!!!”

:lol

[tpols]

he had a clumsy, boxy master stiff arm going to the rim

[highwhey]

[QUOTE=Akrazotile]One of those [B]

[TheCorporation]

If I'm not mistaken he won Defensive Player of the Year in 2004?

[Mr.GOAT2408]

One of those players you disliked when he didn't play for your team but loved when he did

That game 7 vs Boston :rockon:

[sdot_thadon]

Worm 2.0 down to the athletic awkwardness you mention in the op. I hated to see him against my teams or I followed but loved when he played for the home team that one year. His strength as a perimeter player was probably only rivaled by Lebron. The hot headed temperament was a problem obviously but in his prime he was in most guys heads he guarded. I feel like you can win with him as a number 2 today because of his defensive impact while not being the main load bearer on offense. About as pippen-esque as it gets.

[AirTupac]

That championship year, Artest was a step slower but he was still pretty fking great in that regard. Prime Artest would probably be a star today if he had Metta World Peace's mindset and wasn't punching people in the crowd.

[Gotterdammerung]

Always liked Ron Artest/Metta World Peace, even though I never rooted for any team he was on.

And to correct someone else in this thread, had the Malice in the Palace never took place, those 2004-05 Pacers might have beaten the Detroit Pistons in the Eastern Conference playoffs, but I doubt they would've beaten the San Antonio Spurs and win the Finals.
:kobe:

[tpols]

Just like Rodman. Superquick and athletic without the ball, but once they had to dribble and jump with it it looked like it put 100 extra pounds on them.

They look like they have no smooth movement or lower fine motor control. Every movement is boxy yet forceful.

[GrayGoat]

low IQ. Wouldn't have wanted him on my team

Has more titles than the entire Jazz franchise

[tontoz]

If you're a Warriors fan, then you are familiar with the name Stephen Curry. The man who went from 2011 NBA Draft 7th pick to 2014 NBA MVP is one of the greatest shooters in NBA history. But his greatest shot may have came during the 2010 NBA Finals against the Dallas Mavericks. Here's how this shot came to be as well as some of the other greatest shots in NBA history.

The shot that got it started was Michael Jordan's iconic "Flu Game" against the Utah Jazz in Game 5 of the 1997 NBA Finals. The Jazz were up by 5 points with under a minute left when Jordan hit the clutch jumper that helped give Chicago the win and sent them on to win their 6th championship. It was an incredible moment for Jordan and it cemented his legacy as a clutch player forever.

In 2002, in game 6 of the Western Conference Finals, Robert Horry hit a 3 pointer from 30 feet out with 2 seconds left to help give his team a 3-2 lead over the Kings and eventually win the series. If he missed that shot, it would've been overtime, and Sacramento would've had a chance to come back.


Strange post. You bump a 2+ year old thread about Artest and don't even mention him?

[Xiao Yao You]

Has more titles than the entire Jazz franchise

indeed he does. Still an idiot that I wouldn't have wanted on my team. I watched almost every game he played with the Rockets.

[Thenameless]

One of those players you disliked when he didn't play for your team but loved when he did

That game 7 vs Boston :rockon:

I didn't like him much. But, when he helped us win that Game 7, he became alright in my books.

[meat]

indeed he does. Still an idiot that I wouldn't have wanted on my team. I watched almost every game he played with the Rockets.

You hate everyone on your current team except Toody. You are so in love with him. It's kinda sweet.

[Bronbron23]

Most talk about him of course isnt about on the court....but thats what id like your opinion on.

Peak Ron Artest.....how did you feel about him?

He was a terror on D and maintain that even as he got older...but he didnt get up for many battles. When he wanted to bring it in his Rocket/Laker days he still could. Like when he went in on Melo:





https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MadeupSnappyAmericanredsquirrel-size_restricted.gif



Ron had quick hands and quicker feet than he should have had at his size(he played from 240 to 280 depending on the season). And he turned into a better shooter than you probably remember him being. I always found him so awkward though. I always thought he moved like fat kid who went into a coma and came out slim and didnt know how normal people moved. Ron just bumbled around like he his mind didnt know how athletic his body was...he did score though. He could score 18-20...lock people up. One of the few wing DPOY winners of his time. Hell he, Leonard, and GP are the only ones in the 30 years since Jordan won it in 88. But we all know people dont consider defensive stars "real".

And with Ron especially it always comes back to the physical play that makes you forget he was also good at basketball.






The Harden attempted murder:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HilariousAnguishedChicken-size_restricted.gif



How hed occasionally just slam someone for no good reason like he did Big Dog:


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/LimitedOffensiveAsiaticmouflon-size_restricted.gif






How he made Tyler back down and cancel his plans to act tough.



https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HappyFalseAuk-size_restricted.gif


Speaking of which:




[QUOTE]

Gift and a curse. On the right team in the right situation he's a huge asset. In the wrong setting not so much. Personally i liked him alot. He played hard he was physical and he talked alot of shit. I love players like that.

[Xiao Yao You]

You hate everyone on your current team except Toody. You are so in love with him. It's kinda sweet.

Artest isn't on the Jazz FYI or even in the league anymore

[meat]

Artest isn't on the Jazz FYI or even in the league anymore

Just sayin you hate your whole team except Toody and the Scrubs, so of course you wouldn't want Ron Artest on the team.
Toody and the Scrubs is my new band name.

[Xiao Yao You]

Just sayin you hate your whole team except Toody and the Scrubs, so of course you wouldn't want Ron Artest on the team.
Toody and the Scrubs is my new band name.

hope the music lives up to the name