LeBron copping to much.

[nayte]

After reading a few other places it kinda feels like LeBron is copping a lot of shiet these days.While I don't mind a bit of fun it feels like everyone is waiting to get him. Not sure if legends deserve that?

[Dr Hawk]

He is trying his best but things are not working for him and his team.

[nayte]

He is trying his best but things are not working for him and his team.

I'm not sure if he is trying his best or this is his best now. To add now talking about his stans. They are always playing defence for him just the general public. A few media as well.

[Spurs m8]

He has brought everything on himself...

Finally being called out for being the selfish cvnt he is

[nayte]

He has brought everything on himself...

Finally being called out for being the selfish cvnt he is

Maybe and I agree with the sentiment but still. Maybe to many years of butt kissing it feels like everyone is taking their chance now to crap on him. Just not sure if that is cool

[Gileraracer]

He is trying his best but things are not working for him and his team.

Ladies and gentlemen, his best:

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http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/1551797455788578.gif

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/15517973023198267.gif

[knicksman]

frauds deserve it. Fake people are the most hated in this world and same is true for frauds in basketball

[SamuraiSWISH]

Ladies and gentlemen, his best:

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/15517973533198297.gif

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/1551797455788578.gif

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Buddy was wiping his jersey as the play was unfolding instead of contesting shot at the rim.

:facepalm

[nayte]

Ladies and gentlemen, his best:

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/15517973533198297.gif

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/1551797455788578.gif

http://i.freegifmaker.me/1/5/5/1/7/9/15517973023198267.gif

Cmon that isn't his best.
I get that he hasn't been on his game this year.i just don't think legends kinda deserve what he's gotten lately.

[sportjames23]

After reading a few other places it kinda feels like LeBron is copping a lot of shiet these days.While I don't mind a bit of fun it feels like everyone is waiting to get him. Not sure if legends deserve that?

I actually feel bad for him. But, I love that his stans are melting down after all these years of them spreading their bullshit.

Bron shoulda went to Houston. All the Rockets needed was one more piece to put them over the hump, and he coulda been that piece.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I actually feel bad for him. But, I love that his stans are melting down after all these years of them spreading their bullshit.
Why do you feel bad for him? Couldn

[sportjames23]

Why do you feel bad for him? Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person

I never hated Bron. I just can't stand his stans in the media and online. Bron himself, I'm cool with. Of course, all this "Is Lebron teh Greatest EVERRR?!?!" shit is nonsense, and he did himself no favors entertaining that idea, but I never hated the dude. I think it's cold how the media built him up all these years and now want to tear him down. But, that's nothing new. They did it with MJ and other celebrities over the years.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I never hated Bron. I just can't stand his stans in the media and online. Bron himself, I'm cool with. Of course, all this "Is Lebron teh Greatest EVERRR?!?!" shit is nonsense, and he did himself no favors entertaining that idea, but I never hated the dude. I think it's cold how the media built him up all these years and now want to tear him down. But, that's nothing new. They did it with MJ and other celebrities over the years.
LOL what? They

[34-24 Footwork]

I never hated Bron. I just can't stand his stans in the media and online. Bron himself, I'm cool with. Of course, all this "Is Lebron teh Greatest EVERRR?!?!" shit is nonsense, and he did himself no favors entertaining that idea, but I never hated the dude. I think it's cold how the media built him up all these years and now want to tear him down. But, that's nothing new. They did it with MJ and other celebrities over the years.


95% this. His loyalists, including OP, makes it way too easy to troll him.

However, dude did just call himself the GOAT on his own T.V show and recently tried to trade the ENTIRE roster for another Injury prone loser.

In the beginning, I was like you. But this season ha shined an entirely different light...

[nayte]

I actually feel bad for him. But, I love that his stans are melting down after all these years of them spreading their bullshit.

Bron shoulda went to Houston. All the Rockets needed was one more piece to put them over the hump, and he coulda been that piece.

Yeah I can go for this

[nayte]

95% this. His loyalists, including OP, makes it way too easy to troll him.

However, dude did just call himself the GOAT on his own T.V show and recently tried to trade the ENTIRE roster for another Injury prone loser.

In the beginning, I was like you. But this season ha shined an entirely different light...

Huh. I made a thread asking why Is LeBron better then Duncan but I'm a loyalist.

[Poetry]

Of course, all this "Is Lebron teh Greatest EVERRR?!?!" shit is nonsense, and he did himself no favors entertaining that idea, but I never hated the dude.

That's the reason people are dancing on his grave at the moment. He had to be humbled.

Hopefully he'll learn from that misstep the way he learned from the decision.

[nayte]

That's the reason people are dancing on his grave at the moment. He had to be humbled.

Hopefully he'll learn from that misstep the way he learned from the decision.

I get this and I agree but now the grave dancing is a bit to much.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I get this and I agree but now the grave dancing is a bit to much.
What

[sdot_thadon]

That's the single most odd thing about this entire season and so called "dancing on his grave". Lebron is held to standards no other player has ever been held to, not even Mj. No other player is supposedly judged by their worst moment, it's always been their best achievements as long as the good outweighs the bad. Obviously that's the case with James. We omitted bad stuff from every others greats resume like it didn't ever happen. Mj didn't lose to the Magic, 1-9 doesn't matter, Wizards seasons "don't count" all in the name of convenience etc etc. Lebron will be fine, there's always been this hate storm before the next big mark of his career, I'll be watching with my popcorn.

[SamuraiSWISH]

That's the single most odd thing about this entire season and so called "dancing on his grave". Lebron is held to standards no other player has ever been held to, not even Mj. No other player is supposedly judged by their worst moment, it's always been their best achievements as long as the good outweighs the bad. Obviously that's the case with James. We omitted bad stuff from every others greats resume like it didn't ever happen. Mj didn't lose to the Magic, 1-9 doesn't matter, Wizards seasons "don't count" all in the name of convenience etc etc. Lebron will be fine, there's always been this hate storm before the next big mark of his career, I'll be watching with my popcorn.
Who said rusty baseball Jordan didn’t lose to the Magic?

1-9 doesn’t matter because it’s a) semantics and b) false narrative

Wizards Jordan was so far removed from his prime it wouldn’t matter.

Nuance and context is important with all of this debate or discussion.

LeBron has the audacity to self promote and call himself the greatest ever, something Mike, Russell, Kareem, Magic, Bird or Kobe ever did.

So once again he brings the light on himself, because he feels inadequate or insecure. That’s why he pats himself on the back and posts his own stats and congratulations to himself on his own social media.

He’s only 34 years old. He’s at the tail end of his prime. 8 straight finals in the Leastern conference and all its over hyping, a year removed from going to the Finals and he’s on a Laker team that might finish with a worse record than it had the season before his arrival.

When teammates are having to physically push you to play defense, and you’ve alienated yourself by leveraging your sports agency into trying to get damn near all your teammates traded, while constantly throwing all of them under the bus and always deflecting any sense of responsibility.

Then yea he deserves to have his face rubbed in the mud.

[Indian guy]

Gotta get 'em when they're down. LeBron's been on top for so long and when you're as big as he is, there are countless people who are going to resent you for your success. That's just human nature. And then there are 2 humongous fanbases out there, the biggest ever in NBA history in fact, that have forever despised him because he's such a threat to their GODs. Of course, LeBron already surpasses one of them, so that fanbase only exists to see him fail, which lessens their pain of what LeBron did to their boy. The other fanbase is filled with such insecure losers that they simply can't stand anyone doing well.

This season is a gift from heaven for those guys. LeBron's got nobody to blame but himself though. At his age, nothing's a certainty and he basically made an off-court move by joining LA. You combine his decline with a lottery-bound roster in a tough conference....and this is the mess you get.

[SamuraiSWISH]

People who stan LeBron are objectively losers. They reward failure. Their go to hype mechanations is excuse making. It

[FKAri]

Because the whole planet's going to hell in a handbasket and all Lebron has done about it is play ****ing basketball. Look, I've been a huge worshiper of the guy and in the past have only mildly mentioned my disappointment in him continuing to play ball[1] (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pOEZpOmgLLAJ:www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D448730+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-b-d) but at this point it's getting ridiculous. DO SOMETHING LEBRON!

[TheCorporation]

He's getting bashed for doing this

https://i.postimg.cc/3wvmXxMd/NBAinfo305.jpg

With a bunch of 22-year old, 30-win rejects because Kobe ruined the organization.

[TheCorporation]

Because the whole planet's going to hell in a handbasket and all Lebron has done about it is play ****ing basketball. Look, I've been a huge worshiper of the guy and in the past have only mildly mentioned my disappointment in him continuing to play ball[1] (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pOEZpOmgLLAJ:www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D448730+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-b-d) but at this point it's getting ridiculous. DO SOMETHING LEBRON!

Amen

Thankfully Space Jam 2 is only a matter of time. He will save the planet sooner than later!

[Phoenix]

This season is on him. He could have gone to Philly, or Houston where he puts those teams over the top and not have to extend himself to 27/9/8 averages on a young up and coming team that he then tries to get traded off and fracture the locker room. He's been a horrible leader this year and he's been rightly called on it even by some of his biggest media backers like Nick Wright and Colin Cowherd( you know shit is real when those guys criticize him).

Magic/Pelinka deserve their share of the blame for constructing a roster ill-suited to his drive and kick strengths, but Bron signed off on people like Rondo, Mcgee, and Lance know what's needed to win in this league. Not sure why he thought he was gonna buck the 3point trend at 34 years old and clearly declining physical ability( he's lost ALOT since last year when he actually managed some of the best athletic stuff since like 2016). We all know that joining the Lakers was more than a basketball decision. All of his prior passive aggressive behaviour is no longer being excused because his team isn't sitting at or near the top of the conference like the last 4 years.

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Who said rusty baseball Jordan didn

[sdot_thadon]

Gotta get 'em when they're down. LeBron's been on top for so long and when you're as big as he is, there are countless people who are going to resent you for your success. That's just human nature. And then there are 2 humongous fanbases out there, the biggest ever in NBA history in fact, that have forever despised him because he's such a threat to their GODs. Of course, LeBron already surpasses one of them, so that fanbase only exists to see him fail, which lessens their pain of what LeBron did to their boy. The other fanbase is filled with such insecure losers that they simply can't stand anyone doing well.

This season is a gift from heaven for those guys. LeBron's got nobody to blame but himself though. At his age, nothing's a certainty and he basically made an off-court move by joining LA. You combine his decline with a lottery-bound roster in a tough conference....and this is the mess you get.
This. This. This.:applause:

[PP34Deuce]

I think what bothers a lot of people is he doesn't care. Frazier really went at him about simply not caring.

It's not about decline. He's shown he's still a top 7 player in the league (when ON) but it's more about effort. Not the best player but when engaged, only KD, Harden, PG, Curry, and Kawhi are better.

On the flip, his expectations have been crazy high compared to other all time greats. If you keep telling a player, all that matters for him is the playoffs and rings, why would they bust their butt to barely make the playoffs and lose first round?

Bron is excited about not making the playoffs this season and you can tell. He talked about getting 2-3 months to rest his body. I think you see him come back really strong next season and then 2020, you see significant decline unless he transitions. His next role should be to pick a role and do it the best. He's got to either be a PG, scoring SF, or a small ball 4 with 3 point shot.

[Da_Realist]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]People who stan LeBron are objectively losers. They reward failure. Their go to hype mechanations is excuse making. It

[TheCorporation]

The LeBron James Story

-The man makes 8 straight Finals (Modern NBA record)
-The man still puts up the same numbers in Year 16 as he did for 14 years
-The man suffers his worst injury in his career and misses 18 games (6-12)

Cue the retards: Now's our time to attack!

:facepalm

[TheCorporation]

END THREAD.

Truth doesn't even matter anymore, only narrative. Now they're attacking Walt Frazier for doing his job. He didn't get the memo. Anyone who criticizes LeBron will be dealt with.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDY8SDvDPk

No, not end thread. Samurai is an apologist for Jordan.

He literally said "1-9 doesn't count" and that Jordan was "rusty" against the Magic even though earlier that year he was good enough to drop 55 in the garden and 48 in game 1 of the 1st round.

Is LeBron 'rusty' this year after his injury?
Does LeBron's severely underdog Finals suddenly 'dont count'

I'll wait

[SamuraiSWISH]

END THREAD.

Truth doesn't even matter anymore, only narrative. Now they're attacking Walt Frazier for doing his job. He didn't get the memo. Anyone who criticizes LeBron will be dealt with.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VrDY8SDvDPk
And then they make it about LeBron the person ...

As the media assisted him with for the past year or so when it became abundantly clear he wasn

[SamuraiSWISH]

No, not end thread. Samurai is an apologist for Jordan.

He literally said "1-9 doesn't count" and that Jordan was "rusty" against the Magic even though earlier that year he was good enough to drop 55 in the garden and 48 in game 1 of the 1st round.

Is LeBron 'rusty' this year after his injury?
Does LeBron's severely underdog Finals suddenly 'dont count'

I'll wait
I said 1-9 is semantics and false narrative.

Scottie was trash to average at best in his first two season when Jordan took the Bulls to the second round and then the conference finals. These are facts. 1-9 is a straw man.

And that’s not even counting the fact Pippen didn’t become the player he became without MJ’s massive influence. That 1-9 thing was a spin made by LeBron Stans meant to level the argument.

Yes Jordan had big games when he came back from baseball. But it was the inconsistency which showed the rust. Who in their right logical mind is making the loss in the 95 playoffs after being gone for almost 2 seasons playing another sport, coming back with 17 games left and unfortunately losing to the second best team in basketball a big deal? The loss happened but it isn’t a 2011 level blunder.

And also who in their right mind is holding seasons as a 39 and 40 year old during his final two twilight Wizard seasons against him? He shouldn’t have even been a factor to begin with at that age. His legacy and legend was already cemented.

LeBron in his own tv show called him the greatest player of all time ... disrespecting ever past legend and current legend. THIS YEAR. And then still being capable enough at 34 years old has to go out and compete. But can’t even get his team into the playoffs after engaging playoff mode, in a competitive conference that he is finally competing in since 2011.

LeBron missed a month. Roughly the same number of games Jordan even played in the 95 season. Not even a full quarter of the season. Michael missed nearly two years of NBA basketball while playing a totally different sport. So no the rust isn’t comparable.

Also, I’m a Jordan apologist. You’re an objective LeBron fan? :oldlol:

[Da_Realist]

And then they make it about LeBron the person ...

As the media assisted him with for the past year or so when it became abundantly clear he wasn’t going to pass Michael Jordan as an actual accomplished player.

Like when do we give people kudos and gold stars in life for not being a criminal? You’re supposed to do that.

Stephen A Smith was going at Walt. But what was Frazier saying that Smith hadn’t begun to echo since Kyrie asked to be removed from the toxic LeBron situation in Cleveland? Frazier wasn’t attacking him as a person. He was justifiably talking about how visibly disinterested he is as a basketball player, winner, teammate and leader.

Stephen A is a clown. A loud mouth schnuck. I stopped listening to him years ago. Look closely and you can tell he was raised by 7 women.

[sdot_thadon]

Mj groupies in a nutshell:
1.Rightfully give props to the most likely greatest ever.
2.Teardown anyone else of consequence to his throne.
3. Use 2 different sets of rules and criteria in a random order or whatever fits my agenda today.
4. Await the next challenger.
5. Wash, Rinse, Repeat

[SamuraiSWISH]

Mj groupies in a nutshell:
1.Rightfully give props to the most likely greatest ever.
2.Teardown anyone else of consequence to his throne.
3. Use 2 different sets of rules and criteria in a random order or whatever fits my agenda today.
4. Await the next challenger.
5. Wash, Rinse, Repeat
1 - Correct
2 - No
3 - Hell No

Care to do a list of criterium for 3-6 mafia LeBron Stans such as yourself?

No one is tearing LeBron down. Quit your victimization feminine crying. I and most Jordan fans are operating on factual occurrences.

I

[Mr.GOAT2408]

LeBron dug his own grave coming to the Lakers. He came here mainly for his post-career which isn't a good look when you're considered the best in the league

I don't really care enough about Bron to love or hate the guy but the LeGBT community deserve whatever has been coming their way, falling for the hype and being too young to appreciate superior players who've played in the past 3 decades alone :no:

[sdot_thadon]

1 - Correct
2 - No
3 - Hell No

Care to do a list of criterium for 3-6 mafia LeBron Stans such as yourself?

No one is tearing LeBron down. Quit your victimization feminine crying. I and most Jordan fans are operating on factual occurrences.

I’m not making hypotheticals, excuses or bar lowering to elevate someone while conversely using straw man and goal post moving to tear down someone else.

LeBron is Top 5 - Top 10. I have him on or slightly below that Bird / Magic tier. What on earth is so disrespectful about that?
3-6 mafia Lebron stan? How cute.:rolleyes: You pretty much only post to tear Lebron down these days, even in threads that have nothing to do with him. Almost 3ball like, except he, laughably has dignity enough not to defend another man's piece and keeps it basketball. I was close to your level of Mj stan as a teen, so i get it.

Give me a break Mj fans deal with hypotheticals just as much as anyone else. Plenty of times we hear how he'd have 8 peated without retirement and left rings on the table. How he'd have been a great 3 point shooter if he cared to. In fact he hasn't played a game in nearly 20 years so you can pretty much only deal in hypotheticals.

Excuses? Pippen sucked against the bad boys, he was rusty against the Magic, he was too old in Washington etc. excuses abound.

Lowering the bar is what you had to do to put his 6 titles over Russell's 11. Period. Lowering the bar is what you had to do because he couldn't outscore Kobe or Lebron in his career let alone Kareem with his time he took away from his own career.

Strawman goalpost moving is what you do to anyone like Lebron, who does something of consequence to Mj or one of his accomplishments. Kobe's 81. The Warriors' 73. Wilt's stats. Russells rings. Kareem's all time scoring record. Lebron's just being Lebron. And whoever next steps on his cape. I think if you're a basketball fan you should learn to appreciate the game and not just a 60 year old sneaker salesman.

[StrongLurk]

SamuraiBrick has never liked Lebron, not sure why he is giving excuses now :lol

Hey sam, check this vid out. Damon Jones will set you straight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3qfC_flkIE

[plowking]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]People who stan LeBron are objectively losers. They reward failure. Their go to hype mechanations is excuse making. It

[plowking]

See what you just did there "coach" ? You made excuses for shortcomings of Mj's career. Words like rusty, false narrative and wouldn't matter are the textbook covers I'm talking about. Good job living the cliche.

I also feel like people bitching and moaning about him calling himself the greatest ever is out of place. It's no different than a player saying they feel they are best in the world or that they can beat anyone 1 on 1 and so forth. Most guys on that level (all time top level great) show one form of hubris or another. His just sounds worse I agree, but it's nothing other greats haven't done. It's just news becuase it's Lebron like most of the other things he does.

I think you're not really familiar with people. Some like to toot their own horn while others don't. Lebron clearly likes to toot his horn and that makes him.......human. I actually prefer the element of people speaking their feelings than parroting proper PR takes, but that's just me. Perhaps guys like you prefer to be lied to or given a pretty picture in front of the curtain.

The 8 straight finals thing is dumb to try and diminish because of what happened this season as a guy with 50k minutes in this game and his 1st major injury with a squad we all laughed about the summer it was put together. Why did you and everyone else end up still believing he'd pull off something special? Because that's what he's done more often than not, that's what goats do. But hey haters need a chance to celebrate every now and again don't they?

Great post.

[AirTupac]

Its always some loser kid that defends not only LeBron as a player but defends his personality, his moves, his life... its embarassing. Its the same type of loser too, those include:

Dray and his alts
Manny and his alts
Smoke
Plowking
Indian gang - Indian guy and aj


I mean what do they all have in common? Pure trash losers who never played the sport :oldlol:

[plowking]

Its always some loser kid that defends not only LeBron as a player but defends his personality, his moves, his life... its embarassing. Its the same type of loser too, those include:

Dray and his alts
Manny and his alts
Smoke
Plowking
Indian gang - Indian guy and aj


I mean what do they all have in common? Pure trash losers who never played the sport :oldlol:

Couldn't give a fark about Bron's personality. He is most definitely better than your favourite player though.

If you're this much of a negative nancy on the internet, I can only imagine how poorly things are going outside of a forum for you. Again, purely speculative, but I've given you plenty of chances to back up your shit talk, to which you always back down and make an excuse for. :oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Its always some loser kid that defends not only LeBron as a player but defends his personality, his moves, his life... its embarassing. Its the same type of loser too, those include:

Dray and his alts
Manny and his alts
Smoke
Plowking
Indian gang - Indian guy and aj


I mean what do they all have in common? Pure trash losers who never played the sport :oldlol:
Five star post.

[plowking]

Basically. Five star post.

No shock the dude who lied about his credentials as a basketball coach is agreeing with that post.

Yet, I get lumped in the loser category. :oldlol:

Resorting to personal attacks first is the way the basketball arguments go for yourself and AirTupac because you can't really justify or expand on your opinions.

[SamuraiSWISH]

No shock the dude who lied about his credentials as a basketball coach is agreeing with that post.

Yet, I get lumped in the loser category. :oldlol:

Resorting to personal attacks first is the way the basketball arguments go for yourself and AirTupac because you can't really justify or expand on your opinions.
You mean someone here lied about pretending to know a fellow coach in a giant AAU program, in one particular year, who would just happen to know if one of the coaches in the program happens to post occasionally in his free time on a basketball message board called inside hoops?

No one here knows my name or former credentials or playing history. There would be no way to ween down who I was on here in comparison to the number of coaches within the program.

Lol do you know how ludicrous that sounds? If you were even willing to believe that from the jump I’ve got beach front property to sell you.

Why would anyone need to lie about coaching AAU? It’s not some level of significance. There’s a litany of coaches within a given program for the different age groups.

It was just a lame attempt at basketball message board character assassination by fellow loser LeBron Stans such as yourself who was constantly in their feels about whatever criticisms I’d raise of LeBron.

And we all saw you play ball in your one on one video. You can’t play a lick. So your opinion on the sport are as good as dog shit.

[plowking]

You mean someone lied about pretending to know a fellow coach in a giant AAU program, in one particular year, who would know if one of the other coaches in the program happens to post occasionally in his free time on a basketball message board called inside hoops?

Lol if you believed that from the jump I’ve got beach front property to sell you.

It was just a lame attempt at basketball message board character assassination by fellow loser LeBron Stans such as yourself.

And we all saw your one on one video. You can’t play a lick. So your opinion on the sport are as good as dog shit.

:oldlol:

Sure mate.

What's funny is, I have no issue with you. Yet you love going at me.

I do laugh at the situations you put yourself in. I mean, at this point you're lucky the board has deleted a bunch of old shit, but I won't ever forget when you had your Kobe alt accounts, and used them to laugh at your own jokes, and even quoted your main account backing up points.

Lol, say whatever you want to say about me playing ball. Like I stated at the time, hadn't picked up a ball in 3 years, and haven't again since that day. But you are right, I did say poido wouldn't hit a shot, and he hit several due to me not playing defense after checking the ball. So I guess I'm a liar too. You've yet to post a video of yourself. And regardless of what you say, I have most definitely played at a higher level than you, unless you played college, which I know you didn't. But tell me again how being selected for your state means your a shitty baller.
Again, nothing to do with the topic. :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

This season is on him. He could have gone to Philly, or Houston where he puts those teams over the top and not have to extend himself to 27/9/8 averages on a young up and coming team that he then tries to get traded off and fracture the locker room. He's been a horrible leader this year and he's been rightly called on it even by some of his biggest media backers like Nick Wright and Colin Cowherd( you know shit is real when those guys criticize him).

Magic/Pelinka deserve their share of the blame for constructing a roster ill-suited to his drive and kick strengths, but Bron signed off on people like Rondo, Mcgee, and Lance know what's needed to win in this league. Not sure why he thought he was gonna buck the 3point trend at 34 years old and clearly declining physical ability( he's lost ALOT since last year when he actually managed some of the best athletic stuff since like 2016). We all know that joining the Lakers was more than a basketball decision. All of his prior passive aggressive behaviour is no longer being excused because his team isn't sitting at or near the top of the conference like the last 4 years.


I still feel bad for Bron (tho I'm loving his stans melting down), but have to agree with what most of ya'll criticizing him are saying. Particularly the bolded here by Phoenix.

[warriorfan]

This season is on him. He could have gone to Philly, or Houston where he puts those teams over the top and not have to extend himself to 27/9/8 averages on a young up and coming team that he then tries to get traded off and fracture the locker room. He's been a horrible leader this year and he's been rightly called on it even by some of his biggest media backers like Nick Wright and Colin Cowherd( you know shit is real when those guys criticize him).

Magic/Pelinka deserve their share of the blame for constructing a roster ill-suited to his drive and kick strengths, but Bron signed off on people like Rondo, Mcgee, and Lance know what's needed to win in this league. Not sure why he thought he was gonna buck the 3point trend at 34 years old and clearly declining physical ability( he's lost ALOT since last year when he actually managed some of the best athletic stuff since like 2016). We all know that joining the Lakers was more than a basketball decision. All of his prior passive aggressive behaviour is no longer being excused because his team isn't sitting at or near the top of the conference like the last 4 years.

He couldn’t take the pressure. If he went to Houston or the Sixers he would have great expectations to win it all. The way he sees it is if he goes to Lakers and lose he can play his same old “not enough help” song, and get his $tats in the meantime. It’s been pretty damn transparent from the start.

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=warriorfan]He couldn

[LAL]

Lebron decided to go to the lakers so he could rack up triple doubles so it looks like he's having a great year on paper.

[andgar923]

He is trying his best but things are not working for him and his team.

The problem is he's quick to throw others under the bus.
He's quick to leave when things don't go his way.
He's quick to disrespect and insult past greats.

More importantly....

He doesn't "try his best" as others have noted.

[TheCorporation]

Lebron decided to go to the lakers so he could rack up triple doubles so it looks like he's having a great year on paper.
:lol :facepalm

[LAL]

:lol :facepalm
Think he was ready to average something like 18/8/4 next to Harden/cp3 or simmons/Embid?
He has shoes to sell, he wants to play with his kid one day, etc.. Couple more years to go of this bs, and couple more idiots to fool.

[FKAri]

This season is on him. He could have gone to Philly, or Houston where he puts those teams over the top and not have to extend himself to 27/9/8 averages on a young up and coming team that he then tries to get traded off and fracture the locker room.

I don't see how he puts those teams over the top. Maybe in Houston if he took on a smaller role and became a Draymond type guy for them. I don't think his ego would allow him.

[Phoenix]

I don't see how he puts those teams over the top. Maybe in Houston if he took on a smaller role and became a Draymond type guy for them. I don't think his ego would allow him.

Easily puts Houston over. Wouldn't have to carry the offensive burden, better able to manage his stamina levels and play a larger defensive role, play more on the wings as a play finisher and get down in the post and cause havoc with his natural size/strength edges depending on the matchup. Between him,Harden and Paul there's not a single minute where the Rockets wouldn't have a high end facilitator on the floor. I'm sure Harden would welcome a (re)shift to scoring without the burden of also having to put up 9 assists. There's alot you can do with Lebron, Harden and Paul in the lineup or on the team in general.

If he has the much touted versatility and IQ for the game he's often cited for, he should be to make that adjustment. If his ego cant take that welll....the key word is 'his'. As in that's on him. Lebron back in 2012 realized he needed to add *some* post element to his game and while he's no Mchale down low, at this stage in his career getting down in the post more would actually 'rest' him on offense. He should have evolved that aspect of the game to account for declining physical skills. Getting completely owned by Mario to close the Knicks game shows me that whether it be age or injury effects, he's not blowing by defenders anymore off the dribble and that wasn't an especially great aspect of his game even at his athletic peak. Get down in the post( and have shooters in the wings). The Lakers are not only mismatched for his usual drive and kick skillset, but also to leverage him down low to mix things up. The roster complement this year was one of many reasons this season went south.