Michael Jordan's teammates hated him in WAS

[iamgine]

"You brought up Jordan, I was in Washington a lot covering the team for the NY Times, and they couldn't stand him..." -Chris Broussard

https://youtu.be/6OiZ6ST1l7M?t=382

[TheCorporation]

MJ has always been a fraud


1-9
0-6 vs Bird
Losing record verus Isaiah Thomas
Faced 10.7 ppg #2 options
Auto mechanics made all-star games
Beat 1 good team in 6 Finals
Stacked the deck with PJax, Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr
Dad killer
Gambling addict
Fraud
No one liked him that played with him
Punched Kerr in practice

Toxic Michael

[Nikola_]

MJ has always been a fraud


1-9
0-6 vs Bird
Losing record verus Isaiah Thomas
Faced 10.7 ppg #2 options
Auto mechanics made all-star games
Beat 1 good team in 6 Finals
Stacked the deck with PJax, Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr
Dad killer
Gambling addict
Fraud
No one liked him that played with him
Punched Kerr in practice

Toxic Michael

What you say about LeSanta giving all these FMVPS to opposing forwards?

[LeCola]

MJ has always been a fraud


1-9
0-6 vs Bird
Losing record verus Isaiah Thomas
Faced 10.7 ppg #2 options
Auto mechanics made all-star games
Beat 1 good team in 6 Finals
Stacked the deck with PJax, Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr
Dad killer
Gambling addict
Fraud
No one liked him that played with him
Punched Kerr in practice

Toxic Michael

Fraud but still GOAT. 6 FMVP in 11 years, not losing any finals, scoring titles, mvps and lots of award...

We are not looking for a guy to be our son in law. Did he perform as a GOAT in courts. Yes... Is he a fraud, a bad person in his private life? Maybe, he could be but there is no relation between that and being GOAT.

[Indian guy]

I've read When Nothing Else Matters by Wizards beat reporter that fully covers MJ's 2 seasons with Washington. Now that was a very toxic locker room. Especially by his 2nd season. The younger players pretty much all resented MJ (which got Rip traded for Stackhouse) and hated Doug Collins even more so. Both were gone after 2003.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Ask Rip Hamilton, NBA champion SG how he feels about Jordan helping him om the Wizards

Lebron has been in the league for 17 years. Name one young player or draft pick he ever developed?

[Jasper]

MJ has always been a fraud


1-9
0-6 vs Bird
Losing record verus Isaiah Thomas
Faced 10.7 ppg #2 options
Auto mechanics made all-star games
Beat 1 good team in 6 Finals
Stacked the deck with PJax, Grant, Rodman, Kukoc, Kerr
Dad killer
Gambling addict
Fraud
No one liked him that played with him
Punched Kerr in practice

Toxic Michael
saying something like that makes me want to bash your nose in.

[TheCorporation]

Fraud but still GOAT. 6 FMVP in 11 years, not losing any finals, scoring titles, mvps and lots of award...

We are not looking for a guy to be our son in law. Did he perform as a GOAT in courts. Yes... Is he a fraud, a bad person in his private life? Maybe, he could be but there is no relation between that and being GOAT.

Definitely not GOAT.

LeBron passed him in 2016, keep up junior.

[TheCorporation]

Ask Rip Hamilton, NBA champion SG how he feels about Jordan helping him om the Wizards

Lebron has been in the league for 17 years. Name one young player or draft pick he ever developed?

Kyrie
Irving

All you dummies do prop his performance up and talk about how great of a second option he was in Cleveland.

Has he done anything close to that in Boston? Do you honestly think Kyrie will ever reach that peak again?

LeBron James literally put on the greatest 3 game stretch in NBA finals history, why the hell do you think Kyrie Irving rose to the occasion?

Think. about. it.

[ballinhun8]

Calvin Booth
Chris Whitney
Courtney Alexander
Jahidi White
Hubert Davis
Popeye Jones
Tyrone Nesby


Michael made these guys relevant. If it was toxic it would be because they were filling the roster with aging vets to get a playoff seed.

[TheCorporation]

Calvin Booth
Chris Whitney
Courtney Alexander
Jahidi White
Hubert Davis
Popeye Jones
Tyrone Nesby


Michael made these guys relevant. If it was toxic it would be because they were filling the roster with aging vets to get a playoff seed.

If this was your comparison to the Kyrie Irving elevation of LeBron James then quite sadly you have failed miserably.

Please come back tomorrow and try again :rolleyes:

[ballinhun8]

If this was your comparison to the Kyrie Irving elevation of LeBron James then quite sadly you have failed miserably.

Please come back tomorrow and try again :rolleyes:


No you moron. I was just responding in general to the thread.


Your Kyrie comments are just idiotic and have been proven incorrect in every thread you write about him.


You talk about his time in Boston when he's only been in Boston less than two years. The playoffs haven't even started yet for his second season there yet you make statements only because they apply due to time not reaching that physical date yet. Not to mention he was already developed into an All-Star player before LeBron got there so no you can't have that claim for LeBron.


You're a retard so i do expect you and want you to reply so I can bodybag you again. So.....hurry up and reply back.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Kyrie
Irving

All you dummies do prop his performance up and talk about how great of a second option he was in Cleveland.

Has he done anything close to that in Boston? Do you honestly think Kyrie will ever reach that peak again?

LeBron James literally put on the greatest 3 game stretch in NBA finals history, why the hell do you think Kyrie Irving rose to the occasion?

Think. about. it.

Kyrie hasnt won Jackshit post Lebron

[baudkarma]

Jordan always was a rather poor excuse for a human being. His teammates in Chicago tolerated it because they got to be in a parade every year. That wasn't going to happen in Washington, so his teammates there didn't have to disguise their feelings.

[lilteapot]

Kyrie hasnt won Jackshit post Lebron
He was injured last season and that was the only full season weve seen from him post-lebron. what do you expect?

[FKAri]

Jordan always was a rather poor excuse for a human being. His teammates in Chicago tolerated it because they got to be in a parade every year. That wasn't going to happen in Washington, so his teammates there didn't have to disguise their feelings.
It's not so much about being an awful person so much as the fact that a lot of guys aren't willing to go the extra mile to win. MJ and almost any superstar will clash with those kind of teammates. A lot of MJ's teammates hated him in the 80s too. RJ said Lebron pushes a team the same way. Winning helps smooth that out a bit for most.

[ImKobe]

Washington was a poor fit for Jordan, he should have joined a good team like the Lakers or Spurs to try win another championship instead of playing 35+ mpg on a dogshit team to live out his past glory days.

They drafted a young Kwame #1 overall straight out of HS but they allowed Jordan to come back and play and be a distraction instead of allowing the young kid to develop his game without being cussed out in every practice and game.

[SamuraiSWISH]

ImKobe,

Phil asked Mike to come play for LA. Mentor Kobe. I don’t think Jordan was the type of competitor to want to attain easy hollow rings like that.

He had the courage to want to play the new superstars and test his mettle against them. Even at a really old basketball age. That takes guts.


I've read When Nothing Else Matters by Wizards beat reporter that fully covers MJ's 2 seasons with Washington. Now that was a very toxic locker room. Especially by his 2nd season. The younger players pretty much all resented MJ (which got Rip traded for Stackhouse) and hated Doug Collins even more so. Both were gone after 2003.
Yeah. When the boss of the coach is also playing for him, and is in the locker room it creates an awkward dynamic.

LeBron has essentially been doing the same thing for the past six years since he returned to Cleveland. He was just unofficially the GM.

Not to mention at that point Jordan and to a lesser extent Doug Collins were so fed up with the coddled modern athlete being entitled, being paid millions, and not ultimately deserving it or working on their skill set continually to be better players.

There was resentment was mutual, and all around. Toxic just like Cleveland the past four years and the Lakers this year.

At least Mike wasn’t threatening to have half the young team assets traded for one player.

Did you know if Abe Pollin didn’t dick Jordan around with the GM position, Kobe said he was going to come play for Mike in Washington.

[SpaceJam]

Calvin Booth
Chris Whitney
Courtney Alexander
Jahidi White
Hubert Davis
Popeye Jones
Tyrone Nesby


Michael made these guys relevant. If it was toxic it would be because they were filling the roster with aging vets to get a playoff seed.

No he didn

[Smoke117]

Not sure why this would surprise anyone. It had to suck having to play to a 38, 39 year old who was a shell of what he once was for two seasons in the same way nobody liked playing with Kobe those last seasons on the Lakers. In both instances, the two players were basically just chucking away while barely scoring as many ppg as shots they were taking. In that first season on the Wizards, Jordan averaged 22.9ppg on 22.1 shots. Would anyone enjoy stepping aside for a guy who chucks away that much while being complete dogshit as far as efficiency? It's one thing when the guy is good, but Jordan's efficiency was atrocious. If you're a young guy trying to improve and get some experience that is the last kind of guy you want to play with.

[Spurs m8]

saying something like that makes me want to bash your nose in.

You know the basement dwelling loser would never say it irl

[And1AllDay]

Not sure why this would surprise anyone. It had to suck having to play to a 38, 39 year old who was a shell of what he once was for two seasons in the same way nobody liked playing with Kobe those last seasons on the Lakers. In both instances, the two players were basically just chucking away while barely scoring as many ppg as shots they were taking. In that first season on the Wizards, Jordan averaged 22.9ppg on 22.1 shots. Would anyone enjoy stepping aside for a guy who chucks away that much while being complete dogshit as far as efficiency? It's one thing when the guy is good, but Jordan's efficiency was atrocious. If you're a young guy trying to improve and get some experience that is the last kind of guy you want to play with.

Sad but true

[sdot_thadon]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]
At least Mike wasn

[LAmbruh]

Absolutely right, he did all his trying to get guys traded while in chicago. In Washington he did stuff like this instead:


Imagine doing that in 2019.
:yaohappy:

[Duncan21formvp]

So what does that say about Lebron that he grew up idolizing Jordan?:oldlol: :roll:

[ballinhun8]

[QUOTE=SpaceJam]No he didn

[ballinhun8]

Absolutely right, he did all his trying to get guys traded while in chicago. In Washington he did stuff like this instead:


Imagine doing that in 2019.



Who would know better than he who is actually trying if he was out there on the battlefield with them??


Granted in 2019 we have a soft league where players are more sensitive then ever before so you have a point :rolleyes:

[SpaceJam]

Yea i'm obviously not talking about the jersey buying part but the Wiz were on TV so much that people knew these players names. They wanna talk trash about how bad it was yet they never got questions from reports before or after their stints in Washington.


Granted I don't expect you to understand. 2002 was a long time ago.

These a difference between knowing a name, and being relevant champ.

[eliteballer]

That's why they were a bunch of bums who never did anything in their careers, and Jordan is...Jordan.

[TheCorporation]

Absolutely right, he did all his trying to get guys traded while in chicago. In Washington he did stuff like this instead:


Imagine doing that in 2019.

:roll: