How good would Curry be outside of the Warriors system?

[eliteballer]

Everyone questions Draymond and Klay, but Curry obviously benefits more than anyone from the system.

Look at Nash winning two MVP's under D'Antoni(even Raymond Felton averaged 17 points and 9 assists under D'Antoni)

Under Mark Jackson Curry was "very good", not great.

[Uncle Drew]

He is the system.

[warriorfan]

Reported

[eliteballer]

He is the system.

Curry's not setting screens for himself, passing to himself when he moves off-ball, or creating the space the other shooters are giving him in addition to his own.

[Uncle Drew]

Curry's not setting screens for himself, passing to himself when he moves off-ball, or creating the space the other shooters are giving him in addition to his own.
Take Curry out, the Warriors go nowhere as proven by their record. Take the other All-Stars out, the Warriors are still one of the best teams in the league. How come?

[LoneyROY7]

Warriors system is predicated on Curry's game.

[Uncle Drew]

The Warriors are plus 16.9 when all of Curry, Thompson, Durant and Raymond are on the floor. The Warriors are plus 14.3 when Curry rides solo. How come?

[Spurs m8]

Yeah sorry elite mate, I gotta roll with uncle drew and loney here...which is a rare thing

[MJistheGOAT]

Water is wet.

Curry IS the foundation stone of the system. No Curry equals ISO, less ball movement and spacing.

[LoneyROY7]

Curry's not setting screens for himself, passing to himself when he moves off-ball, or creating the space the other shooters are giving him in addition to his own.

So you don't think another team is capable of setting screens and subsequently passing to Curry after he gets open off said screen?

:lol :lol :lol

[superduper]

Every single Warrior individually is literally like +15 with Curry on the court and a lot worse without him on the court.

Curry is the Warriors

[Uncle Drew]

So you don't think another team is capable of setting screens and subsequently passing to Curry after he gets open off said screen?

:lol :lol :lol
I was about to get on him for the same, but then I remembered that the Warriors get away with illegal screens much more than the other 29 teams in the league. So, although he didn't say it nor do I think he meant it that way, he has a point.

[eliteballer]

So you don't think another team is capable of setting screens and subsequently passing to Curry after he gets open off said screen?

:lol :lol :lol
You have an extremely elementary understanding of the game if you think it

[Uncle Drew]

You have an extremely elementary understanding of the game if you think it’s that simple, it’s about when, where, and how those picks are set and he gets the ball.
You're talking about screen setting as if it is rocket science. All they'd have to do to adjust to Curry screens is move a few feet. **** outta here with that nonsense lmfao.

[eliteballer]

Take Curry out, the Warriors go nowhere as proven by their record. Take the other All-Stars out, the Warriors are still one of the best teams in the league. How come?
You can say that about literally any star player..ever. It doesn

[LoneyROY7]

You have an extremely elementary understanding of the game if you think it’s that simple, it’s about when, where, and how those picks are set and he gets the ball.

Do you really believe that Steve Kerr is just some coaching genius and is the only one capable of utilizing such an offense with Curry on the floor?

The Warriors look like an a entirely different team when Steph doesn't play. Their sets are entirely different. I wonder why.

[eliteballer]

You're talking about screen setting as if it is rocket science. All they'd have to do to adjust to Curry screens is move a few feet. **** outta here with that nonsense lmfao.
Hell, why have coaches at all?:rolleyes:

[Uncle Drew]

You can say that about literally any star player..ever. It doesn’t mean every star is the system.
Go ahead, name them. Name me one team that has such star power yet completely goes to shit when one player doesn't play. I'll wait. Including stats and so on.

[FKAri]

[QUOTE=eliteballer]You have an extremely elementary understanding of the game if you think it

[eliteballer]

Go ahead, name them. Name me one team that has such star power yet completely goes to shit when one player doesn't play. I'll wait. Including stats and so on.
Your the one claiming Curry is the system, so YOU provide all of the comparison data for players to prove he is the outlier among all stars ever.

[Uncle Drew]

Your the one claiming Curry is the system, so YOU provide all of the comparison data for players to prove he is the outlier among all stars ever.
:oldlol: Why would I back up a statement I didn't make? You were the one saying you can make such a case for any player. Well, go ahead. We're waiting. Either put up or admit you were wrong.

[superduper]

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[tpols]

There are a handful of klay types in the league and many drays... the guy was a second round pick malcontent tweener.

Dingo is the engine of that dynasty and the only truly unique piece.

[tontoz]

Curry shoots 3s off the dribble 5 feet behind the line. He can do that in any system.

He takes 12 threes a game while shooting 43% on them. He is a unicorn.

[Ben Simmons 25]

I used to say this about 5 or 6 years ago when Curry was getting insane hype and I didn't bother actually watching significant stretches of Warriors games like I have now for years.

Curry could do what he does on literally any team in the league. That doesn't mean that he could make any team in the league as effective as the Warriors are, but I mean... as far as him as an individual and as far as him trying to get others involved go... he'd be the same guy on any team.

He's the best player in the league and he has been for like 4 years other than playoffs LeBron.

[SpaceJam2]

He pretty much IS the Warriors system. They don't do so well without him. He takes on a lot of hard doubles and as a result his other team mates benefit greatly

[Uncle Drew]

Bump. :oldlol:

[Ben Simmons 25]

Yeah eliteballer is a dumbass. That's been true since his birth.

[The Iron Fist]

Pretty obvious the system is built around him. He would be great anywhere.

[game3524]

He would be in the bottom half of the top ten, instead of near the top.

[Stephonit]

He would be in the bottom half of the top ten, instead of near the top.

Bottom half of the all-time top ten instead of near the top.

[sd3035]

Just as good

The system is Curry ball, and it goes where he goes

[superduper]

Imagine thinking any other team in the league wouldn't be able to screen for the best shooter the history of the game has ever seen by a light year wtf? :oldlol:

[SpaceJam2]

So you don't think another team is capable of setting screens and subsequently passing to Curry after he gets open off said screen?

:lol :lol :lol

NOPE the Warriors are the only team that can set screens :lol

Hollinger will come up with a new advanced analytic callled SSORP (screen setting over replacement player) :lol

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine thinking any other team in the league wouldn't be able to screen for the best shooter the history of the game has ever seen by a light year wtf? :oldlol:

These kids sometimes are just too funny :lol

But who will set the screens?!

How will they inbound the ball to Curry if Draymond isn't there?!

And other valuable questions of topic :lol

[SpaceJam2]

Yeah eliteballer is a dumbass. That's been true since his birth.

BUT WHO WILL SET THE SCREENZ

[FireDavidKahn]

He'd still be as good as he is now. Probably even more so since he'd be able to shoot more.

[Bronbron23]

It all depends on where he goes. He can put up 30 a game on any team thats gonna set alot of screens for him. He can only win on a team that has the right pieces around him. Curry Stan's underestimate Dray and Klays defensive influence. Draymond especially is probably just as important as curry because of his defence and hustle. Curry has basically played with the best defender and the best shooter in the league his whole career. Put him on a team without those and he may not make the playoffs. He's not athletic physical enough to influence the game in other areas besides shooting like some others players can

[tpols]

the crazy thing is the warriors were like the clippers or magic style franchise before curry's emergence... people act like he went to some established dynasty... like he was under pop/phil/pat or something playing with big time HOFers. :facepalm

Klay and dray historically are average at best help when you see what other guys had, neither of them is even better than pau for petes sake..much less better than kareem, shaq, kobe, mchale, magic, worthy, pippen, wade, west, big O, drexler etc. etc. Nobody has ever elevated such mediocre comparative second and third option talent to 70+ win dynasty.

[Smoke117]

the crazy thing is the warriors were like the clippers or magic style franchise before curry's emergence... people act like he went to some established dynasty... like he was under pop/phil/pat or something playing with big time HOFers. :facepalm

Klay and dray historically are average at best help when you see what other guys had, neither of them is even better than pau for petes sake..much less better than kareem, shaq, kobe, mchale, magic, worthy, pippen, wade, west, big O, drexler etc. etc. Nobody has ever elevated such mediocre comparative second and third option talent to 70+ win dynasty.

So true. It was Curry that made Draymond Green a DPOY type of defensive player. Do you ever get tired of saying stupid shit? I would if I was you. It must be exhausting.

[And1AllDay]

So true. It was Curry that made Draymond Green a DPOY type of defensive player. Do you ever get tired of saying stupid shit? I would if I was you. It must be exhausting.

tpols is one of those cats that dont post much so you can forget how dumb he is but then without warning he pops up and kaboom reminds us all again of just how dumb he is.

Like a secretive dumb ninja

[Wardell Curry]

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What even is this thread?



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[LeCola]

If you mean for whole career, probably 4-5 mvp awards, 8-10 scoring titles but only 1 or 2 rings.