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And1AllDay
03-22-2019, 05:19 PM
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How many players needed this much help? Just imagine only leading in one category.

And1AllDay
03-22-2019, 06:11 PM
Oh okay so besides Mike Jordan has anyone else been carried in four of five categories?

3ball
03-22-2019, 06:11 PM
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..............Only MJ led his team in scoring for every series, and he did so by an average of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option



..................PPG for #1 scorer... PPG for #2 scorer... Difference


1985 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1985-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-bucks.html):...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. 8.8

1986 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1986-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-celtics.html):...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ 22.7

1987 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1987-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-celtics.html):...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ 15.7

1988 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1988-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ 34.4
1988 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1988-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ 14.6

1989 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-cavaliers.html):...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ 25.0
1989 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-knicks.html):...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ 20.9
1989 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... 17.7

1990 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bucks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ 14.3
1990 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-76ers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ 22.2
1990 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ 15.5

1991 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ 9.3
1991 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-76ers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ 10.0
1991 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-finals-pistons-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ 7.8
1991 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-finals-lakers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ 10.4

1992 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. 21.0
1992 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. 15.3
1992 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-finals-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. 11.9
1992 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-finals-trail-blazers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. 15.0

1993 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-hawks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. 19.0
1993 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. 12.7
1993 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-knicks.html):...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. 9.8
1993 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-finals-bulls-vs-suns.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. 19.8

1995 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1995-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-hornets.html):...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. 15.0
1995 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1995-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-magic.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. 12.0

1996 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 30.0............... S Pippen 19.7.............. 10.3
1996 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. 20.4
1996 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-finals-magic-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. 11.0
1996 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-finals-supersonics-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. 11.6

1997 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bullets-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. 20.6
1997 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-hawks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. 4.4
1997 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-finals-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. 17.4
1997 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-finals-jazz-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 32.3............... S Pippen 20.0.............. 12.3

3ball
03-22-2019, 06:12 PM
1998 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1998-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-nets-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 36.3............... S Pippen 18.0.............. 18.3
1998 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1998-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-hornets-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.6............... S Pippen 17.8.............. 11.8
1998 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1998-nba-eastern-conference-finals-pacers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 16.6.............. 15.1
1998 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1998-nba-finals-bulls-vs-jazz.html):...... Jordan 33.5............... S Pippen 15.7.............. 17.8
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.................................................. ........................15.4 average difference
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LostCause
03-22-2019, 06:13 PM
You guys like Gamescore right? What's the average Gamescore between Jordan and Pippen over that same span

3ball
03-22-2019, 06:16 PM
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MJ carried the goat scoring load (shown in previous post above), but he also led the bulls in APG for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and assisted on the most bulls' field goals for both 3-peats



Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced


and again - in addition to leading the bulls in passing, MJ had the goat scoring load - he's the only all-time great that led his team in scoring for every series of his career, and he did so by an average margin of 15.4 ppg (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=406920) over his 2nd option (see post above)
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TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 06:23 PM
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https://i.postimg.cc/XvTZGVdK/FB-IMG-1538798854277.jpg

How many players needed this much help? Just imagine only leading in one category.

Wow :lol And1AllDay got'm spinnin

Looks like 3ball made yet another thread backfire :roll:

So is Jordan literally the only player in NBA history that was carried in four of five statistical categories :eek:

Uh...oh :eek:

3ball
03-22-2019, 06:35 PM
Wow :lol And1AllDay got'm spinnin

Looks like someone made another thread backfire :roll:

So is Jordan literally the only player in NBA history that was carried in four of five statistical categories :eek:

Uh...oh :eek:
there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load for all his rings.. :confusedshrug:

while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals... :rolleyes:

ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 06:41 PM
there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load for all his rings.. :confusedshrug:

while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals... :rolleyes:

ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

Yes...we know he can dunk on 6'2 guards. Cool.

MJ = 1/5 (Points)
Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

Who was really carrying who?

How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

3ball
03-22-2019, 06:43 PM
Yes...we know he can dunk on 6'2 guards. Cool.

MJ = 1/4 (Points)
Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

Who was really carrying who?

How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?
MJ averaged more assists, steals and points so your claim is false anyway.

And again, there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load.. :confusedshrug:

while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals... :rolleyes:

ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

bullettooth
03-22-2019, 06:45 PM
LeBron fans still salty?

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/81941715/not-1-not-2-not-3-not-4-not-5-but-6-nba-finals-losses.jpg

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 06:49 PM
MJ averaged more assists, steals and points so your claim is false anyway.

And again, there's no bigger burden than having to be the league's top scorer to win, and only MJ had to carry that load.. :confusedshrug:

while also leading his team in passing (MJ led bulls in APG and assist % for most playoff runs)

Otoh, Lebron was never required to be the league's top scorer to win a ring, let alone double his 2nd option's scoring like MJ in the 93' and 98' Finals... :rolleyes:

ultimately, lebron only won when he had an equal scoring partner and wasn't the league's top scorer, while MJ had to score 10-20 more than his 2nd option in all his Finals, while being the league's top scorer

https://i.postimg.cc/YCRfWmC6/FB-IMG-1525375107033.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/XvTZGVdK/FB-IMG-1538798854277.jpg

MJ = 1/5 (Points)
Pip = 4/5 (Reb, Assists, Steals, Blocks)

How many other stars have been carried in 4 of 5 statistical categories?

bullettooth
03-22-2019, 07:10 PM
Watching Bronsexuals trying to prop up their idol yet failing every time...

https://media.giphy.com/media/WOgTYUypDao5amNWwx/source.gif

Manny98
03-22-2019, 07:12 PM
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..............Only MJ led his team in scoring for every series, and he did so by an average of 15.4 ppg over 2nd option



..................PPG for #1 scorer... PPG for #2 scorer... Difference


1985 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1985-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-bucks.html):...... Jordan 29.3............... Woolrige 20.5.................. 8.8

1986 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1986-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-celtics.html):...... Jordan 43.7............... Woolrige 21.0................ 22.7

1987 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1987-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-celtics.html):...... Jordan 35.7............... C Oakley 20.0................ 15.7

1988 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1988-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 45.2............... C Oakley 10.8................ 34.4
1988 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1988-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 27.4............... C Oakley 12.8................ 14.6

1989 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-cavaliers.html):...... Jordan 39.8............... S Pippen 15.0................ 25.0
1989 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-knicks.html):...... Jordan 35.7............... S Pippen 14.8................ 20.9
1989 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1989-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 29.7............... C Hodges 12.0............... 17.7

1990 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bucks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 36.8............... S Pippen 22.5................ 14.3
1990 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-76ers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 43.0............... S Pippen 20.8................ 22.2
1990 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1990-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-pistons.html):...... Jordan 32.1............... S Pippen 16.6................ 15.5

1991 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.0............... S Pippen 19.7................ 9.3
1991 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-76ers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 33.4............... S Pippen 23.4................ 10.0
1991 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-eastern-conference-finals-pistons-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.8............... S Pippen 22.0................ 7.8
1991 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1991-nba-finals-lakers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.2............... S Pippen 20.8................ 10.4

[B]1992 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 45.0............... S Pippen 24.0.............. 21.0
1992 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.3............... S Pippen 16.0.............. 15.3
1992 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-eastern-conference-finals-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.7............... S Pippen 19.8.............. 11.9
1992 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1992-nba-finals-trail-blazers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 35.8............... S Pippen 20.8.............. 15.0

1993 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-hawks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 34.3............... S Pippen 15.3.............. 19.0
1993 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-cavaliers-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 18.3.............. 12.7
1993 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-eastern-conference-finals-bulls-vs-knicks.html):...... Jordan 32.2............... S Pippen 22.5.............. 9.8
1993 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1993-nba-finals-bulls-vs-suns.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 21.2.............. 19.8

1995 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1995-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bulls-vs-hornets.html):...... Jordan 32.3............... T Kukocs 17.3.............. 15.0
1995 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1995-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bulls-vs-magic.html):...... Jordan 31.0............... S Pippen 19.0.............. 12.0

1996 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 30.0............... S Pippen 19.7.............. 10.3
1996 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-knicks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 36.0............... S Pippen 15.6.............. 20.4
1996 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-eastern-conference-finals-magic-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 29.5............... S Pippen 18.5.............. 11.0
1996 Round 4 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1996-nba-finals-supersonics-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 27.3............... S Pippen 15.7.............. 11.6

1997 Round 1 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-first-round-bullets-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 37.3............... S Pippen 16.7.............. 20.6
1997 Round 2 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-hawks-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 26.6............... S Pippen 22.2.............. 4.4
1997 Round 3 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/1997-nba-eastern-conference-finals-heat-vs-bulls.html):...... Jordan 30.2............... S Pippen 16.8.............. 17.4

Only led in one category (scoring) that's pathetic for the so called GOAT :oldlol:

3ball
03-22-2019, 07:13 PM
:rolleyes:

3ball
03-22-2019, 07:14 PM
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Jordan averaged more:


91-93' Playoffs (1st three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 33.7 on 51.7%.. 6.6 apg.. 31.1 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.9 tov.. 29.5 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20.1 on 47.3%.. 6.1 apg.. 23.3 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 3.4 tov...19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs (2nd three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 22.3 ast %.. 1.6 spg.. 2.3 tov.. 27.3 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 22.0 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.5 tov.. 19.0 PER


Goat scoring load, team-leading passer, goat defender at position, goat clutch = GOAT (easily)
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Gus Hemmingway
03-22-2019, 07:14 PM
And1AllDay got his groupies fuming again :oldlol:

knicksman
03-22-2019, 07:24 PM
No amount of trolling is gonna change the fact that lebron rings are just ringchasers. Cowards will always be viewed as less than the real men. Simple as that. And that pains bron stans coz that makes them losers among losers

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:16 PM
And1AllDay got his groupies fuming again :oldlol:

These kids are getting roasted. :lol

I think the best part is the more they try to prove how "good" Jordan was the more they realize they're putting their proverbial foot in their mouth.

Classic after classic 😎

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:16 PM
No amount of trolling is gonna change the fact that lebron rings are just ringchasers. Cowards will always be viewed as less than the real men. Simple as that. And that pains bron stans coz that makes them losers among losers

Knicks lol

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:18 PM
Only led in one category (scoring) that's pathetic for the so called GOAT :oldlol:

MJ 1/5 :eek:

3ball we need answers :(

eliteballer
03-22-2019, 08:23 PM
What are the chances that LeBron James has used HGH or Anabolic Steroids?

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:25 PM
How many players were carried in four of five categories?

Anyone at all?

3ball
03-22-2019, 08:26 PM
MJ 1/5 :eek:

3ball we need answers :(

MJ carried the load, including the goat scoring load/gap with 2nd option, team-leading passer, goat defender at position, goat clutch:


91-93' Playoffs (1st three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 33.7 on 51.7%.. 6.6 apg.. 31.1 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.9 tov.. 29.5 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20.1 on 47.3%.. 6.1 apg.. 23.3 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 3.4 tov...19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs (2nd three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 22.3 ast %.. 1.6 spg.. 2.3 tov.. 27.3 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 22.0 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.5 tov.. 19.0 PER
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TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:34 PM
MJ carried the load, including the goat scoring load/gap with 2nd option, team-leading passer, goat defender at position, goat clutch:


91-93' Playoffs (1st three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 33.7 on 51.7%.. 6.6 apg.. 31.1 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.9 tov.. 29.5 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20.1 on 47.3%.. 6.1 apg.. 23.3 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 3.4 tov...19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs (2nd three-peat)


Jordan (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 22.3 ast %.. 1.6 spg.. 2.3 tov.. 27.3 PER
Pippen (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 22.0 ast %.. 2.1 spg.. 2.5 tov.. 19.0 PER
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You keep talking about points. Yes we know he dropped a bunch of points on Starks and Hornacek.

However, aside from MJ, how many players were carried in four of five categories?

Was anybody carried more than MJ?

3ball
03-22-2019, 08:52 PM
You keep talking about points. Yes we know he dropped a bunch of points on Starks and Hornacek.

However, aside from MJ, how many players were carried in four of five categories?

Was anybody carried more than MJ?
I just posted how MJ led the bulls in apg and assist percentage during the championship runs, and also before the championship runs

So your graphic showing that pippen led in assists isn't accurate, thereby nullifying your question

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:54 PM
I just posted how MJ led the bulls in apg and assist percentage during the championship runs, and also before the championship runs

So your graphic showing that pippen led in assists isn't accurate, thereby nullifying your question

It's completely accurate. And you are known for fudging stats, I am not. Try again.

Dray n Klay
03-22-2019, 08:56 PM
I just posted how MJ led the bulls in apg and assist percentage during the championship runs, and also before the championship runs

So your graphic showing that pippen led in assists isn't accurate, thereby nullifying your question


Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan to win in 1998?

Why was 27ppg on 41% shooting enough for MJ to win in 1996?

knicksman
03-22-2019, 08:57 PM
Knicks lol

I know it pains you my friend but it is what it is. Winners are winners because they have high standards. They dont settle for stats, they go for skills/eye test.

3ball
03-22-2019, 08:58 PM
It's completely accurate. And you are known for fudging stats, I am not. Try again.
MJ led the bulls in APG and assist percentage in the playoffs

And PPG by the biggest margin ever

That's the goat load

Try again chico.. :oldlol:

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 08:59 PM
I know it pains you my friend but it is what it is. Winners are winners because they have high standards. They dont settle for stats, they go for skills/eye test.

Yep, and the Knicks are a clear example of this

3ball
03-22-2019, 09:12 PM
Why was 27 on 41.7 shooting enough for MJ to win in 1996?


Why was 23 on 43.3 thru 6 games enough to make it to game 7 of the 13' Finals?

And also, why was being a net negative enough to win?... Lebron won the 13' Finals while being a net negative!

He was at 16 on 39% thru 3 games.. 23 on 43 thru 6... just horrible.. needed someone to save him





Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan to win in 1998?


Goat scoring, clutch, defense and teamwork
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knicksman
03-22-2019, 09:25 PM
Yep, and the Knicks are a clear example of this

Player fans are considered less than team fans. So? In the end, it pains you guys that a guy you worshipped are considered garbage for us. Thats how cheap you guys are

Dray n Klay
03-22-2019, 09:25 PM
Why was 23 on 43.3 thru 6 games enough to make it to game 7 of the 13' Finals?

And also, why was being a net negative enough to win?... Lebron won the 13' Finals while being a net negative!

He was at 16 on 39% thru 3 games.. 23 on 43 thru 6... just horrible.. needed someone to save him



Goat scoring, clutch, defense and teamwork
.


Why did Bulls win 55 games without MJ in 1994?


Why did MJ only average 22 points on 22 shots in his 15th season? LeBron averaged 28/9/9 and made the Finals in his 15th season

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 09:36 PM
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Why did Bulls win 55 games without MJ in 1994?


Why did MJ only average 22 points on 22 shots in his 15th season? LeBron averaged 28/9/9 and made the Finals in his 15th season

2ball also always forgets to omit LeBron's Big Game 7 in 2013 finals

Game 7

LBJ: 37
Ray: 0
Bosh: 0

He never talks about this game, I wonder why?

Also, it must be mentioned that this was done against the dynasty Spurs and Kawhi Leonard, not Jeff Hornacek

TheCorporation
03-22-2019, 09:40 PM
Ahem, 3 ball...

How many players were carried in four of five categories?

3ball
03-22-2019, 10:38 PM
Ahem, 3 ball...

How many players were carried in four of five categories?
MJ led his team in the most important categories by the most ever (scoring, clutch)

And lebron offset his smaller scoring edge and notable clutch deficit (to his 2nd option), by adding small edges in defensive rebounds and assists

Only a fool can't understand that small edges in more categories isn't nearly as good as goat edges in the most important categories.. one is 6/6 in the championship; the other 0*/9 (none without colluding or teammate shots)

And again, MJ assisted on the biggest portion of bulls' field goals during the championship runs, so your data is outdated

3ball
03-22-2019, 10:50 PM
Why did Bulls win 55 games without MJ in 1994?


They had developed the best brand of basketball and teamwork, as required to achieve any dynasty





Why did MJ only average 22 points on 22 shots in his 15th season? LeBron averaged 28/9/9 and made the Finals in his 15th season


40-year olds will always jump lower and run slower than their 34-year old selves, regardless of games played..

age is what matters, and MJ was the scoring champ and MVP at age 35, let alone 34 like lebron is this year (not even 1st team all NBA for lefraud... :facepalm ..:oldlol: :applause: :pimp: )

3ball
03-23-2019, 12:04 AM
Ahem, 3 ball...

How many players needed more help than jordan?


Lebron needed more help to win 3 rings because he only averaged 27.2 and 7.2 apg in the 12/13/16 playoffs versus 33.7 and 6.6 for MJ in 91-93' playoffs

So either lebron needed more help to win, or his rings required less production to win..

Furthermore, for their first 3 rings, both MJ and lebron averaged 7 apg to lead their team, but MJ led his team in scoring/clutch by goat amounts, while lebron needed a near-equal scoring partner and better clutch partner

lebron also needs way more help because he needs a team willing to sacrifice teammate/team assists and brand of ball so he can dominate the ball and get assists - it's a fact that teammates see their assists crater next to him, while the team has low assist rankings and gets massively out-assisted in the championship

TheCorporation
03-23-2019, 12:10 AM
Lebron needed more help to win 3 rings because he only averaged 27.2 and 7.2 apg in the 12/13/16 playoffs versus 33.7 and 6.6 for MJ in 91-93' playoffs

So either lebron needed more help to win, or his rings required less production to win..

Furthermore, for their first 3 rings, both MJ and lebron averaged 7 apg to lead their team, but MJ led his team in scoring/clutch by goat amounts, while lebron needed a near-equal scoring partner and better clutch partner

lebron also needs way more help because he needs a team willing to sacrifice teammate/team assists and brand of ball so he can dominate the ball and get assists - it's a fact that teammates see their assists crater next to him, while the team has low assist rankings and gets massively out-assisted in the championship

Did you just decide to ignore rebounding numbers to fit your agenda?

AGAIN

MJ is a 1/5 guy
LBJ is a 5/5 guy

Has any star needed more help being carried than Michael Jordan? We get it, he can score the ball. It must have been really tough dunking on slow, 6'2 guards. But, AGAIN

MJ is a 1/5 guy
LBJ is a 5/5 guy

3ball
03-23-2019, 12:19 AM
Did you just decide to ignore rebounding numbers to fit your agenda?

AGAIN

MJ is a 1/5 guy
LBJ is a 5/5 guy

Has any star needed more help being carried than Michael Jordan? We get it, he can score the ball. It must have been really tough dunking on slow, 6'2 guards. But, AGAIN

MJ is a 1/5 guy
LBJ is a 5/5 guy
Lebron is a 27.2 and 7.2 guy (12/13/16 playoffs)

The goat 33.7 and 6.6 guy (91-93' playoffs)

So lebron is a long way off.. then there's the fact that lebron needs a near-equal scoring partner and a better clutch partner, while MJ was a 1-man show at scoring and clutch