Harden putting to bed Kobe's 05-06 scoring flashes, but on a winning team

[LAmbruh]

Crazy

Imagine the backing and fanboy hype have if given a big market LA fanbase guzzling him for 20 years

[3ball]

Drtg:

2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2


Pace:

2019 - 100
2006 -.. 90


PPG:

2019 - 111
2006 - ..97

[LoneyROY7]

Bouta grab the MVP while doing it too.

Sheesh.

[TheCorporation]

Drtg:

2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2


Pace:

2019 - 100
2006 -.. 90


PPG:

2019 - 111
2006 - ..97

Why did you mention pace and defensive rating? They already account for pace...

[TheCorporation]

Crazy

Imagine the backing and fanboy hype have if given a big market LA fanbase guzzling him for 20 years

Crazy to think that in just one season Harden has erased Kobe's peak. Annnd he won games doing it.

[LAmbruh]

surreal how D'Antoni's has been able maximize 2 players that have long dick Kobe's legacy (Nash, Harden) on multiple franchises

[3ball]

Why did you mention pace and defensive rating? They already account for pace...
If Kobe's Lakers averaged 15 more points like the rest of today's league is, that would be an additional 5+ points for Kobe, or 40+ per game, based on Kobe scoring 35% of his team's points

So Kobe would be at 40+ today.. MJ, obviously, significantly above that.. and lebron would be below MJ/Kobe/harden/durant, etc.. giannis and others

[LAmbruh]

:blah :blah :blah :blah
key words: winning culture


"b-b-b-bu Pace, PPG, DRTG"


"b-b-b-but..... "


https://i.postimg.cc/JnJVr1g8/ghfghfghfgh.png


:yaohappy:

[TheCorporation]

surreal how D'Antoni's has been able maximize 2 players that have long dick Kobe's legacy (Nash, Harden) on multiple franchises

Mike D'Antoni is the ultimate kobe killer and we never knew it

I'm almost positive he gave Kobe a 3-1 lead in 2006 just he could snatch it away from his soul :lol

[TheCorporation]

Btw LAmbruh, I got that same shirt LeBron is wearing in your avatar and I rock it on the regular :cheers:

[stalkerforlife]

Drtg:

2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2


Pace:

2019 - 100
2006 -.. 90


PPG:

2019 - 111
2006 - ..97

LeOuch.

You made Simon grab alts quick with this one. :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Drtg:

2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2


Pace:

2019 - 100
2006 -.. 90


PPG:

2019 - 111
2006 - ..97


He wrote on a winning team.. Yea its easier to score but his points are coming down the stretch late in games to win games..

[SomeBlackDude]

pretty statlines. fugly game.

with beans at least he put on a show with his scoring outburts.

like watching art.

this man the beard has almost as many fts than fgs made this season.

disgusting.

[LoneyROY7]

The year Kobe averaged 35.4...

AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3

This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5

Some interesting food for thought.

[LoneyROY7]

pretty statlines. fugly game.

with beans at least he put on a show with his scoring outburts.

like watching art.

this man the beard has almost as many fts than fgs made this season.

disgusting.

Harden averages 1 FTA less than MJ did the year he averaged 37.1. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[NBASTATMAN]

The year Kobe averaged 35.4...

AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3

This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5

Some interesting food for thought.


ETHER.. Plus Harden is doing it in clutch moments.. He is doing it against great defensive teams as well.. Kobe mostly feasted against bad defensive teams..

[SomeBlackDude]

Harden averages 1 FTA less than MJ did the year he averaged 37.1. :oldlol: :oldlol:

mj's ftr that season: .427 (0.8 3s attempted/gm)
beard's this season: .452 (13.3 3s attempted/gm)

mj's career: .358 (1.6 3s attempted/gm)
beard's career: .528 (7.2 3s attempted/gm)

absurd that a dude who takes that ridiculous amount of 3s is getting to the line that often. think about how much flopping you have to do to accomplish that.

disgusting.

[LoneyROY7]

ETHER.. Plus Harden is doing it in clutch moments.. He is doing it against great defensive teams as well.. Kobe mostly feasted against bad defensive teams..

I thought it was interesting, because I vividly remember years back people talking about how '05-'06 was an outlier for scoring numbers.

[LoneyROY7]

mj's ftr that season: .427 (0.8 3s attempted/gm)
beard's this season: .452 (13.3 3s attempted/gm)

mj's career: .358 (1.6 3s attempted/gm)
beard's career: .528 (7.2 3s attempted/gm)

absurd that a dude who takes that ridiculous amount of 3s is getting to the line that often. think about how much flopping you have to do to accomplish that.

disgusting.

Umm you do realize why his FTr is lower, right? Because MJ took 3 more shots attempts a game than Harden is. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nice one, genius.

[SomeBlackDude]

Umm you do realize why his FTr is lower, right? Because MJ took 3 more shots attempts a game than Harden is. :oldlol: :oldlol:

Nice one, genius.

mike and kobe took roughly the same amount of shots in their best scoring seasons. kobe took far more 3s. kobe had a lower ftr that season, as logic would dictate.

kobe in '06: .377 ftr (6.5 3s/gm)
kobe's career: .382 (4.1 3s/gm)

go ahead and bullshit your way through this one. :lol

[LoneyROY7]

mike and kobe took roughly the same amount of shots in their best scoring seasons. kobe took far more 3s. kobe had a lower ftr that season, as logic would dictate.

kobe in '06: .377 ftr (6.5 3s/gm)
kobe's career: .382 (4.1 3s/gm)

go ahead and bullshit your way through this one. :lol

You're so stuck on "oh he shoots so many threes, why he get calls!?!!?" :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Harden takes 3s and lay-ups. He drives to the rim more than any other perimeter player in the league. He doesn't shoot the mass amount of mid-range shots that MJ/Kobe did. He drives more than Kobe ever did. The majority of his FTs are given off of drives/attacking the rim.

But hey keep selling yourself this false narrative, champ.

[And1AllDay]

You're so stuck on "oh he shoots so many threes, why he get calls!?!!?" :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Harden takes 3s and lay-ups. He drives to the rim more than any other perimeter player in the league. He doesn't shoot the mass amount of mid-range shots that MJ/Kobe did. He drives more than Kobe ever did. The majority of his FTs are given off of drives from attacking the rim.

But hey keep selling yourself this false narrative, champ.

He is very dense and wont get it but good luck anyway man

[Mr.GOAT2408]

I don't even want to imagine how many consecutive 60 point games 06 Kobe would have in today's game, especially in this Rockets team tailor-made towards Harden's iso ability and loaded with shooters... but Kobe was a better iso player and also shot 35% from 3s. Imagine giving him the greenlight to shoot 17 3s which no one did 10 years ago and also having more space to operate due to all these shooters :bowdown:

Hell, 06 LeBron would probably averge 40 ppg on this Rockets team. Only reason 34 year old Bron isn't doing this is, one, he's not on this Rockets team and two he's also way past his prime

[ImKobe]

The year Kobe averaged 35.4...

AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3

This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5

Some interesting food for thought.

It's a matter of circumstance. Let's say PG was a lone star on an average team like AI in 2006, you don't think he could average 33 ppg? How about Durant? There are plenty of great scorers who could do the same, but they're either on stacked teams or have a 2nd big scorer on their team.

George had a 30-game stretch of averaging 33 ppg prior to his injury.

[warriorfan]

Drtg:

2019 - 110.2
2006 - 106.2


Pace:

2019 - 100
2006 -.. 90


PPG:

2019 - 111
2006 - ..97

First post ether

Op has the basketball iq of a handicapped person

[Manny98]

Harden is a fraud but he's better than Kobe ever was that is a fact

[sportjames23]

Crazy

Imagine the backing and fanboy hype have if given a big market LA fanbase guzzling him for 20 years


His boy is missing the playoffs, so now this dude gonna jump ship and stan Harden. :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

The year Kobe averaged 35.4...

AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3

This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5

Some interesting food for thought.
damn, everyone and their grams was putting up numbers back then

just shows how meaningless it was

5*

[3ball]

The year Kobe averaged 35.4...

AI averaged 33.0
LeBron averaged 31.4
Arenas averaged 29.3

This year, Paul George is the closet at 28.2 to Harden's 36.5

Some interesting food for thought.
^^^^ good point

But look at the comp.. Paul George is normally a 25 ppg guy that is having his career year - yet he's #2

Whereas AI and lebron are better scorers than George

A real gap over great players was when MJ averageed 37 and bird/Dominique/English/McHale averaged 26-29

[ballinhun8]

I mean Kobe's backcourt mate was Smush Parker and Harden has Chris Paul.




You know. Just food for thought.



But continue with your Kobe bashing. I'm sure you'll still be creating topics in two years when he is giving his headlining HoF speech.

[LAmbruh]

Crazy how Hardens been able to do this and maintain winning success with a second option:


Paul - 15, 5, 8 on 41%


versus


Odom - 17, 10, 4 on 45%


damn

[ballinhun8]

Crazy how Hardens been able to do this and maintain winning success with a second option:


Paul - 15, 5, 8 on 41%


versus


Odom - 17, 10, 4 on 45%

damn


Lmfaoooo you mean the last year he was in Miami when he averaged that.


The lies you guys will tell cuz you think people don't fact check you.


Not to mention Paul averages 16 not 15. Round up. On 41.9%. I mean if you tell lies just on this alone what else do you lie about on your multiple posts throughout the multitude of accounts.


Odom actually averaged 15, 9, 5 in 05-06.


Sorry, Smush was option #3 with Chris Mihm rounding out the only other double digits scoring. Wow.






Kobe. That actually is impressive just making the playoffs with those guys.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lmfaoooo you mean the last year he was in Miami when he averaged that.


The lies you guys will tell cuz you think people don't fact check you.


Not to mention Paul averages 16 not 15. Round up.


Odom actually averaged 15, 9, 5 in 05-06.


Sorry, Smush was option #3 with Chris Mihm rounding out the only other double digits scoring. Wow.






Kobe. That actually is impressive just making the playoffs with those guys.
Cringe

[ballinhun8]

Cringe



I know. When people actually use FACTS it is a bit cringe




Sorry bro. I'll try better next time.

[LAmbruh]

Damn


Odom goes from 2004 Olympian, to a reduced role player the minute he joins Kobe


And this was the main 20/10 asset and guy that was traded to replace Shaq


Crazy

[LAmbruh]

Cringe
damn :lol

[ballinhun8]

Damn


Odom goes from 2004 Olympian, to a reduced role player the minute he joins Kobe


And this was the main 20/10 asset and guy that was traded to replace Shaq


Crazy



**Insert field goal widening gif here**

[Keno]

Harden is a fraud but he's better than Kobe ever was that is a fact

Big time facts.

[ballinhun8]

Big time lies.



Quited For Truth

[LAmbruh]

appreciate the 5*'s brodi's :cheers:



my threads always avg 4-5 stars

[The Iron Fist]

Isnt fg% the most important number?


Im sure Harden is at least at the golden standard of 50%,right?

[LAmbruh]

Isnt fg% the most important number?


Im sure Harden is at least at the golden standard of 50%,right?
consensus says winning % is the most important

one unlike the other has been able to capitalize on throughout his dominant scoring spree

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Isnt fg% the most important number?


Im sure Harden is at least at the golden standard of 50%,right?

Shoots ~43%. Inefficient. Chucker. Overrated cancer.

Did I miss any? :oldlol:

Kobe is retired yet still haunts LeBron fans. Now that their hero's missing the playoffs they're forced to root for another "James".

:yaohappy:

[ballinhun8]

FYI......05-06 Lakers finished 45-37.



But I guess that's not a winning record.

[The Iron Fist]

consensus says winning % is the most important

one unlike the other has been able to capitalize on throughout his dominant scoring spree
Ah yes, winning.

https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/d.pmaywVUKJ1xoVyiS1b5A--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wME EzMDA7aD01MDg7dz00MDA-/http://media.thehoopdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/badass.jpg.cf.jpg


71%>>>>.33333>>>>0

[superduper]

Man i feel bad for Bran stans now :oldlol:

[The Iron Fist]

Man i feel bad for Bran stans now :oldlol:
Its like being a Kobe fan, and having to rely on Suns Nash to feel good.

[LAmbruh]

Ironically the last thing Kobe ever saw in a playoff game was the back of Hardens jersey


https://i.postimg.cc/x1fGmN7C/tgyhdfdfhfgh.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cHHfzqZN/r960-c2e0c1b85a25632fe60af2dafdd26fe9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)









damn

[ballinhun8]

You gotta give it up to Bron stans tho. They know damn well how to deflect, deflect, deflect.


They will start new topics inside of already new topics of topics they created.



Bron-ception :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Gus Hemmingway]

Ironically the last thing Kobe ever saw in a playoff game was the back of Hardens jersey


https://i.postimg.cc/x1fGmN7C/tgyhdfdfhfgh.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cHHfzqZN/r960-c2e0c1b85a25632fe60af2dafdd26fe9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)









damn
savage :lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You gotta give it up to Bring stans tho. They know damn well how to deflect, deflect, deflect.


They will start new topics inside of already new topics of topics they created.



Bron-ception :roll: :roll: :roll:

From LeBron James to ...

Harden.

James. Harden.

https://media.tenor.com/images/87f750aca7790f888a926873ecce9af5/tenor.gif

[warriorfan]

Wheels melting down hard

[TheCorporation]

Ironically the last thing Kobe ever saw in a playoff game was the back of Hardens jersey


https://i.postimg.cc/x1fGmN7C/tgyhdfdfhfgh.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/cHHfzqZN/r960-c2e0c1b85a25632fe60af2dafdd26fe9.jpg (https://postimages.org/)









damn


Yeouch :(

Kenny? Thots?

[Mr.GOAT2408]

Funny seeing the fans of one fraud move on to another, at least Harden has spent his entire career in the west. Also way better statpadder than LeBron ever was although I don't think he was better than LeBron at his... peak LeBron didn't statpad all that much tbh

But the LeBrony mentioning Lamar, I hope you paid attention to how we went from averaging 17/10/4 on 51.6 TS% to averaging 15/10/5 on 55.0 TS% in the 3 years as the 2nd option. Some of it is due to the rule changes, but a lot of it is due to Kobe making teammates better :roll:

[LAmbruh]

https://i.postimg.cc/FzNR4m4S/fgrrturtur.png