Could Zion be the next Anthony Bennett?

[RoseCity07]

I watch this guy and see the Blake Griffin like acrobatics but he doesn't have the size. I don't think he has the handles. He certainly can't pass like Lebron.

So it seems he's gonna be a Julius Randle/Blake hybrid. That spells bust to me. That's best case too.

I think he will probably be worse than Blake. His jump shot is flat footed. He's going to get that shot blocked. I'm seeing a better version of Anthony Bennett. I don't see Lebron level talent.

[LoneyROY7]

He's more athletic and significantly quicker than Blake. He moves like a guard in a 280 pound body. Let that sink in. And he's already a much better defender. People love making comparisons because ONE thing is similar. "They both jump high. They must be the same." :oldlol: :oldlol:

They're completely different physical specimens. I'm not gonna respond to the Anthony Bennett comparison because that's simply going full retard.

[Smoke117]

There's a huge difference between Anthony Bennet and LeBron James you mouth breathing retard. He's going to be somewhere in between, obviously.

[RoseCity07]

There's a huge difference between Anthony Bennet and LeBron James you mouth breathing retard. He's going to be somewhere in between, obviously.

Yes dipshit. I already wrote the characteristics that make him far closer to Bennett. One I forgot to mention is he looks fat. His frame is similar to Bennett.

He's undersized for the type of basketball he plays.

[LoneyROY7]

Speed, strength, and explosive finishing ability (combined with a soft touch) in droves. He is going to able to penetrate NBA defenses at will.

And did you say something about him looking fat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do_SYPMXUAEN8zd.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[RoseCity07]

Speed, strength, and explosive finishing ability (combined with a soft touch) in droves. He is going to able to penetrate NBA defenses at will.

And did you say something about him looking fat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do_SYPMXUAEN8zd.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol:

He has that Draymond look. I'm sure Draymond and Bennett aren't fat but they look husky.

[Smoke117]

He has that Draymond look. I'm sure Draymond and Bennett aren't fat but they look husky.

Are you seriously trying to compare Zion to Draymond Green? Do yourself a favor and shut the fukk up.

[RoseCity07]

Are you seriously trying to compare Zion to Draymond Green? Do yourself a favor and shut the fukk up.

Holy sh*t kid you're retarded. Zion is 6-7 280 pounds.:roll: :roll:

280. He weighs are much as an NBA center. He's 6-7 lmao.

[PeroAntic]

Hes gonna be a bust so in that sense he will be the next Bennett (and also in the sense that hes a tweener who cant shoot and will suffer from mismatches whoever hes guarding on defense in the NBA).

btw Griffin's handle is light years ahead.

[Elosha]

Zion has the "It" factor. It's more than his weight and athleticism. The guy plays the right way. His enthusiasm is infectious, his hustle and defensive energy, admirable. He seems like a great teammate. I haven't yet seen a hint of arrogance or entitlement (at least on college level, looked like he could be a bit of a bully in high school, but that' to be expected of a young kid).

He seems capable of rising to the occasion and coming through huge in the clutch in the biggest moments of the biggest games. Yes, free throws and jump shooting need lots of work, but the foundation is there.

He's highly skilled. People who think he doesn't have phenomenal ballhandling skills for a player his size need to get their eyes checked. His passing is pinpoint accurate, and his assists numbers could go way up in the NBA. He doesn't have the longest wingspan, but his size, determination and explosiveness will make him a very good/great rebounder in the NBA. His footwork is still raw, but his size and quickness in the post still will net him points in the NBA. Once he refines his game down there a bit more, he'll be a beast.

But what perhaps impresses me most is his fluidity. The man has great driving skills, and changes directions and shots in the air in ways that are Jordanesque. (and no, he's not at Jordan's level there, no one is with Kobe as a possible exception). But he has the ability to be extremely creative in the air and to change and move his body in the air that belies his size.

I can't "guarantee" this guy will be a star, but he's got my radar buzzing. He could be the next truly great transformative NBA star.

[Smoke117]

Holy sh*t kid you're retarded. Zion is 6-7 280 pounds.:roll: :roll:

280. He weighs are much as an NBA center. He's 6-7 lmao.

And when have you ever seen Draymond Green pull off the athletic feats Zion is? You are making Blazer fans everywhere look bad with your stupid fukking shit takes. Shut up and go sit in the corner you dunce.

[brooks_thompson]

Zion has the "It" factor. It's more than his weight and athleticism. The guy plays the right way. His enthusiasm is infectious, his hustle and defensive energy, admirable. He seems like a great teammate. I haven't yet seen a hint of arrogance or entitlement (at least on college level, looked like he could be a bit of a bully in high school, but that' to be expected of a young kid).

He seems capable of rising to the occasion and coming through huge in the clutch in the biggest moments of the biggest games. Yes, free throws and jump shooting need lots of work, but the foundation is there.

He's highly skilled. People who think he doesn't have phenomenal ballhandling skills for a player his size need to get their eyes checked. His passing is pinpoint accurate, and his assists numbers could go way up in the NBA. He doesn't have the longest wingspan, but his size, determination and explosiveness will make him a very good/great rebounder in the NBA. His footwork is still raw, but his size and quickness in the post still will net him points in the NBA. Once he refines his game down there a bit more, he'll be a beast.

But what perhaps impresses me most is his fluidity. The man has great driving skills, and changes directions and shots in the air in ways that are Jordanesque. (and no, he's not at Jordan's level there, no one is with Kobe as a possible exception). But he has the ability to be extremely creative in the air and to change and move his body in the air that belies his size.

I can't "guarantee" this guy will be a star, but he's got my radar buzzing. He could be the next truly great transformative NBA star.

This is the best way to put it. i've only seen highlights and about 3 games, but he has an aura about him, and every time I tune in they are talking about what a hard worker is, and sure enough, there he is on the court defending his ass off.

He may not be a superduperstar, but he has an aura about him that you can just tell success is coming. On the other hand, Anthony Bennett had an aura of sleep apnea and parking garage piss about him.

[plowking]

I can't believe there are people who think there is any debate as to whether he will be a good player or not. Not just that, you are saying he might be Anthony Bennett...

How can you not see a talent that good when he is right in front of you?

Same with the people that pretended Ben Simmons wouldn't be a good player. I actually want to know what they are watching. This isn't some contentious pick, with a lot of deliberation, or talent waiting to come out. He is the done deal already.

[tontoz]

As freshmen they averaged:

Zion 22 pts shooting 68%

Bennett 16 pts shooting 53%

Blake 15 pts shooting 57%

[bobopenguin]

Speed, strength, and explosive finishing ability (combined with a soft touch) in droves. He is going to able to penetrate NBA defenses at will.

And did you say something about him looking fat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do_SYPMXUAEN8zd.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol:

he looks like he's on fking steroid... 19 yrs looks like this??

[Kblaze8855]

Anthony Bennet wasnt even close to almost being halfway comparable to Zion as an athlete. Two people being the same race and stocky doesnt make them similar. Bennet was taller but still 30 pounds smaller and not out here able to high 5 the statue of liberty.

This is like comparing Tristian Thompson to Shawn Kemp because they are both about 6'10'' 240. Thompson is a good athlete as Anthony was but theres quite a difference between "Good" and 50 year old scouts saying they have never seen anything like this.

Bennett wasnt even a highly regarded guy coming out. The Cavs were the only team that thought he was anything.

This is other GMs on him....


“I had Bennett ninth on my board (before the 2013 NBA Draft),” one NBA executive said. “I was shocked the Cavs took him at one. But having said that, I’m even more shocked he’s out of the league. I didn’t think that would ever happen. I said to myself at the time, ‘that’s a bad pick, but he’ll probably be a solid sixth man or fifth starter.’ Not, ‘that’s a bad pick, this dude will be out of the league.’”




“As they were getting down to the end, I think (Cavaliers general manager Chris Grant) wanted to find a reason for him to be the guy,” another NBA executive said. “There wasn’t an obvious choice among the other guys. It wasn’t a great draft. They were always going to have to talk themselves into a guy they knew had flaws.”

In the end, they trusted their scouting department and chose Bennett. It was still a surprise not only to the basketball world, but also to Bennett himself that he was selected first.

“I’m just as surprised as everybody else,” Bennett said on draft night. “I had no idea. When they said my name, that’s when I knew.”



“I had him 10th or 11th (on my board),”



“It was definitely surprising to most people that he went No. 1, but I talked to a lot of people around the league and felt consensus was fifth to tenth. Typically, that’s still an NBA player. Obviously though, that was wrong.”



David Griffin on Anthony Bennett: "His whole life, he rolled out of bed bigger, better, and more talented than everybody else. As soon as it was hard, it was over. I'm the one who got sold the bill of goods and I bought it hook, line, and sinker. You **** up sometimes."


He was a lazy piece of shit:

https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/temp_images/2014/01/09/832477570.gif


Which nobody says about Zion.


Theres a lot more reason to compare him to Larry Johnson or Blake than to even mention Bennetts name. They have nothing in common but being black and stocky.

If Zion is a bust it wont be for the reason Bennett was and it will be a bust in that "Not a #1 pick" kinda way like Joe Smith or Kenyon Martin who was still a good player.

Zions physical tools alone wont allow him to not be in the NBA if he so much as agrees to run hard on fast breaks.

[AlternativeAcc.]

OP just became the anthony bennet of ISH with this thread

You're fired. Turn in your uniform and gather your belongings. NOW.

[PP34Deuce]

When are Blake comparisons a bad choice? He's literally Blake and Larry Johnson mix. You get that as a number one pick and you're happy.

Anthony Bennett is a slap in the face to his natural talent. So is Draymond. Draymond only passes better. Zion will be able to score 17-18PPG based off hustle and soft touch as a finisher.

[FireDavidKahn]

Could Zion be the next Anthony Bennett?

Jesus christ.:facepalm

[FireDavidKahn]

Zion has the "It" factor. It's more than his weight and athleticism. The guy plays the right way. His enthusiasm is infectious, his hustle and defensive energy, admirable. He seems like a great teammate. I haven't yet seen a hint of arrogance or entitlement (at least on college level, looked like he could be a bit of a bully in high school, but that' to be expected of a young kid).

He seems capable of rising to the occasion and coming through huge in the clutch in the biggest moments of the biggest games. Yes, free throws and jump shooting need lots of work, but the foundation is there.

He's highly skilled. People who think he doesn't have phenomenal ballhandling skills for a player his size need to get their eyes checked. His passing is pinpoint accurate, and his assists numbers could go way up in the NBA. He doesn't have the longest wingspan, but his size, determination and explosiveness will make him a very good/great rebounder in the NBA. His footwork is still raw, but his size and quickness in the post still will net him points in the NBA. Once he refines his game down there a bit more, he'll be a beast.

But what perhaps impresses me most is his fluidity. The man has great driving skills, and changes directions and shots in the air in ways that are Jordanesque. (and no, he's not at Jordan's level there, no one is with Kobe as a possible exception). But he has the ability to be extremely creative in the air and to change and move his body in the air that belies his size.

I can't "guarantee" this guy will be a star, but he's got my radar buzzing. He could be the next truly great transformative NBA star.
This x1000.

People disregard his skill because he is one of the best athletes basketball has ever seen. Great court awareness, fluid, good vision, willing passer, elite anticipation (blocks, steals), absolutely elite ability to adjust during his drive/in the air, soft touch, can handle the ball, etc. The only real weakness of his is his shooting but there is at least some skill there.

[Celtics 1825]

This will be fun to bump in a year or two's time.

[imdaman99]

He is a 100 times hungrier than Blake. And lol at Anthony Bennett. Please do not mention him in the same sentence as Zion EVAR again

[Nikola_]

he reminds me of julius randle on steroids.

i watchet "top 10 plays of the season" and its all basically breakaway dunks and little to nothing actual basketball.

[jayfan]

He is a 100 times hungrier than Blake.

I don't know about that. Blake has always played hungry. Don't let that sleepy face fool you. Dude has been a beast all season. And since we're comparing him to a college kid, um, did you watch Blake at Oklahoma?


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[bullettooth]

There's a huge difference between Anthony Bennet and LeBron James you mouth breathing retard. He's going to be somewhere in between, obviously.

Sounds like you can see into the future. Would you mind sharing next week's winning lottery numbers?

[TheCorporation]

He was a lazy piece of shit:

https://cdn.bleacherreport.net/temp_images/2014/01/09/832477570.gif

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Holy crap this is bad :lol And didn't it take Bennett like 30 games to score in double digit figures. I don't want to Google it but i'm sure someone knows this info off the top.

Edit: I had to look it up, it was 33 games. Took this fat, lazy piece of shit 33 NBA games to score more than 9 points in his rookie year

[Sportal]

OP sitting here watching his height and weight, and not games that he's playing. Zion will do what it takes, we've already seen this in college. The only thing that is gonna stop this kid is injuries, and no-one hopes for those.

[superduper]

OP just became the anthony bennet of ISH with this thread

You're fired. Turn in your uniform and gather your belongings. NOW.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Zion Williamson's Synergy profile remains a thing of beauty

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2e5NAWUwAEKLI2.png:large

No skill Zion:facepalm

[sbw19]

He could become the modern day Derrick Coleman, his ceiling is so high that having merely a decent career would be a disappointment.

[TheCorporation]

This will be fun to bump in a year or two's time.

True, although it could be fun for OP if he actually ends up being right

[RoseCity07]

Just to clarify. I'd draft Zion at 1 because no one else really comes close to his potential. It's a easy choice. I just don't think he's as can't miss like Anthony Davis.

Speaking of Anthony Davis. What has he done? This is a guard's league. All these great bigs come into the league and get nowhere. Embiid seems to be good enough to carry a team but he can't stay healthy.

So people are betting this kid is not only going to be healthy. He's also going to overcome being 6-7 and playing like a power forward. He's going to get off that jump shot in which he doesn't even jump? I'm seeing red flag.

Kid has a great motor and works hard. He's humble. I really do think people are acting like he's a sure thing when there are a lot of red flags.

[Kblaze8855]

Anthony Bennett is arguably the worst pick in American sports history among players who didnt die before the season. Thinking someone isnt a sure thing is 4-5 light years from bringing up Anthony Bennett.

Merely having a motor makes you better than Anthony Bennett.

I dont know why people go to such crazy extreme on almost every subject. A guy has to be the GOAT....or compared to the worst pick of all time.

What happened to being ok?

If he were a career 14/6 highlight reel who didnt live up to the hype it wouldnt justify saying Anthony Bennetts name. Anthony got kicked out of the league put up 1.2ppg in Europe and was last seen in the D league where he was traded for a 3rd round D league pick.

His worth....is a d-league 3rd rounder.

Why is Zions name even being mentioned?

Zion as a bust wouldnt be that if he so much as has knees and wants to try a little.

[scuzzy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2e5NAWUwAEKLI2.png:large

No skill Zion:facepalm
The prophecy

[ShawkFactory]

Anthony Bennett is arguably the worst pick in American sports history among players who didnt die before the season. Thinking someone isnt a sure thing is 4-5 light years from bringing up Anthony Bennett.

Merely having a motor makes you better than Anthony Bennett.

I dont know why people go to such crazy extreme on almost every subject. A guy has to be the GOAT....or compared to the worst pick of all time.

What happened to being ok?

If he were a career 14/6 highlight reel who didnt live up to the hype it wouldnt justify saying Anthony Bennetts name. Anthony got kicked out of the league put up 1.2ppg in Europe and was last seen in the D league where he was traded for a 3rd round D league pick.

His worth....is a d-league 3rd rounder.

Why is Zions name even being mentioned?

Zion as a bust wouldnt be that if he so much as has knees and wants to try a little.
Agree with everything else but Jamarcus Russell is the worst pick of all time.

At least the chargers can say they picked Ryan Leaf after Peyton.

[TheCorporation]

Agree with everything else but Jamarcus Russell is the worst pick of all time.

At least the chargers can say they picked Ryan Leaf after Peyton.

But now you're going NFL

I still say Bennett was worse, though :lol

It took him 33 games to score more than 9 points.

33.

[ShawkFactory]

But now you're going NFL

I still say Bennett was worse, though :lol

It took him 33 games to score more than 9 points.

33.
Yea but that was a garbage ass draft tho. It

[Sportal]

I'll go from the 2008 draft, you guys will just have to use your memory of how they were in college. These are the #1 picks.

Ayton
Fultz
Simmons
KAT
Wiggins
Bennett
Davis
Irving
Wall
Griffin
Rose

Ok.. you have a draft, all these players are in this draft, all coming out of college, they've just played their last year of college. Where do you pick Zion? Don't think about their NBA careers, think of their talent as a college player. Clearly Bennett is at the bottom, lol. Your team has no-one right now, your team is a proper lottery team.

[FKAri]

I'll go from the 2008 draft, you guys will just have to use your memory of how they were in college.

Ayton
Fultz
Simmons
KAT
Wiggins
Bennett
Davis
Irving
Wall
Griffin
Rose

Ok.. you have a draft, all these players are in this draft, all coming out of college, they've just played their last year of college. Where do you pick Zion? Don't think about their NBA careers, think of their talent as a college player. Clearly Bennett is at the bottom, lol. Your team has no-one right now, your team is a proper lottery team.
Anthony Davis would be first. Griffin probably 2nd. Then Wall and Rose. Going off of their hype level.

[ShawkFactory]

Anthony Davis would be first. Griffin probably 2nd. Then Wall and Rose. Going off of their hype level.
Nah.

Davis first probably still. But Zion is a very close second.

Rose #3

[Sportal]

Anthony Davis would be first. Griffin probably 2nd. Then Wall and Rose. Going off of their hype level.

So you'd take 2nd year Oklahoma Griffin over Zion?? Griffin was the absolute 1st option on that team... I would take Zion over Griffin. The other 3 though, I would have a hard time convincing the owner of a franchise that Zion has to come before those guys.

I think we forget what people have said about Zion, what Coach K has said about Zion, the improvements he has made already in college... This kid is going to have LeBron level expectation.... I don't know if that's fair...

[Sportal]

If Ja Morant is 2nd behind Zion... How does he compare to Irving/Rose/Wall? I think he's pretty damn good....

[TheCorporation]

Anthony Davis would be first. Griffin probably 2nd. Then Wall and Rose. Going off of their hype level.

Solid list, I swap Rose and Wall :cheers:

[TheCorporation]

So you'd take 2nd year Oklahoma Griffin over Zion?? Griffin was the absolute 1st option on that team... I would take Zion over Griffin. The other 3 though, I would have a hard time convincing the owner of a franchise that Zion has to come before those guys.

I think we forget what people have said about Zion, what Coach K has said about Zion, the improvements he has made already in college... This kid is going to have LeBron level expectation.... I don't know if that's fair...

I have to admit I'm a little worried about a 6'6 290 player that has little range.

[ShawkFactory]

If Ja Morant is 2nd behind Zion... How does he compare to Irving/Rose/Wall? I think he's pretty damn good....
Difficult to compare guys who aren

[Milbuck]

This is legitimately one of the dumbest draft comps I think I've ever seen.

[Sportal]

I have to admit I'm a little worried about a 6'6 290 player that has little range.

Do you think that's true though? I've noticed during the year that his jumpshot has got smoother, especially his 3 pointer... He's not Ben Simmons, when he had to shoot 3s yesterday he made 3 of 7... He's not even Lonzo Ball broken... I thought after Simmons scored 0 in the playoffs, he would have come back with a much more noticeable, on display jumper. I bet Zion's shot gets better straight after college is over.

[sbw19]

He might be better off getting drafted by a Western team, the East right now is just loaded with young and dominant big men.

[SpaceJam2]

Could he? Yes
Will he? No way in heck

[Grey Dawn]

Steroids and fat.

[GOBB]

The only comparable thing with Bennett and Zion is skin complexion,

[TheCorporation]

Do you think that's true though? I've noticed during the year that his jumpshot has got smoother, especially his 3 pointer... He's not Ben Simmons, when he had to shoot 3s yesterday he made 3 of 7... He's not even Lonzo Ball broken... I thought after Simmons scored 0 in the playoffs, he would have come back with a much more noticeable, on display jumper. I bet Zion's shot gets better straight after college is over.

I guess the bad part about being so athletic is that you don't have to/need to focus on your shooting as much. You just bully down low and excel using your supreme athleticism. It's why guys like Shaq don't know how to shoot, IMO. He was always at the rim dunking on kids (which is fine, it worked) but it also stunts their overall growth/skill set at the same time.

[TheCorporation]

[QUOTE=GOBB]The only comparable thing with Bennett and Zion is skin complexion,

[NuggetsFan]

I have no idea what Zions turns into but he's a physical freak like we've only seen a couple times in the history of the sport. He's in that tier assuming he doesn't lose a bunch of weight and tries to really slim down which wouldn't be a bad thing, but far less freaky in terms of size/athleticism combo.

I think alot of the comparisons right now are pretty bad. Griffin, or Bennett, I don't see it. Zion is his own player, a difficult guy to compare players too.

[SpaceJam2]

I have no idea what Zions turns into but he's a physical freak like we've only seen a couple times in the history of the sport. He's in that tier assuming he doesn't lose a bunch of weight and tries to really slim down which wouldn't be a bad thing, but far less freaky in terms of size/athleticism combo.

I think alot of the comparisons right now are pretty bad. Griffin, or Bennett, I don't see it. Zion is his own player, a difficult guy to compare players too.

Who would be the closest? And yes, he definitely needs to slim down.

[jayfan]

He has a better chance of being the next Lebron James than the next Anthony Bennett.


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[SpaceJam2]

He has a better chance of being the next Lebron James than the next Anthony Bennett.


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Big time falsified information. I'm calling the police for this one

https://www.beprepared.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Call-911.jpg

[NuggetsFan]

Who would be the closest? And yes, he definitely needs to slim down.

I think you'd need to pick certain aspects of like 3 different players. He's just a unique player. 6'7/285 with top tier elite leaping ability and explosion along with better movement than most PF's/big men yet I don't think he has the perimeter skills where you can say he'll be on the wing full time as of right now.

Even Barkley comparisons. He's a good bit taller. 6'7 while undersized at PF, is an entirely different than like 6'4/6'5. Given his height it's no different than when someone like LeBron plays PF.

The only thing he has in common with Blake is his leaping ability, which I think is far more explosive. Bennett just his body type, and even than Zion is in far better shape.

[jayfan]

Big time falsified information. I'm calling the police for this one

https://www.beprepared.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Call-911.jpg

Lol. You'll be the one they end up arresting.

[ClipperRevival]

There has never been a physical specimen quite like him. 6'7" and 280 lbs with the ability to explode off the floor off 1 or 2 feet with ease. He's probably the heaviest guy to ever do a FT line dunk and his 2 foot jumps have his head right at the rim.

And what's just as important is his mindset. He brings it. He tries on D. That means he cares. I can't wait to see the heights he reaches at the NBA level.

[insidehoops]

:lebronamazed:

[KyleKong]

Speed, strength, and explosive finishing ability (combined with a soft touch) in droves. He is going to able to penetrate NBA defenses at will.

And did you say something about him looking fat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Do_SYPMXUAEN8zd.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Thats a strong man, not a fat man homie.

[AirTupac]

Someone called Zion fat? The fact that some virgin retard dweeb on ISH says that infuriates me. :facepalm

[thefatmiral]

It's all going to be based on his effort. Nobody can Coast by on their athleticism.at least not be succesfull.

[AirFederer]

I like him alot.
right now I see him as the next Dirk/DWade type of player

[Andrei89]

I like him alot.
right now I see him as the next Dirk/DWade type of player


Dirk? D-Wade?

What the ****:biggums:

[game3524]

RoseCity has lowkey always been one of the dumbest posters on this forum.

[Boogaboog]

Bump

[scuzzy]

This will be fun to bump in a year or two's time.

1 month from one year anniversary :lol

[nayte]

I thought u would have been gloating more how this thread turned out.

[tontoz]

Great call OP :lol

[LoneyROY7]

Damn, my basketball IQ never ceases to amaze me.

[FireDavidKahn]

The Bran Fam saw how good Zion would be 99 miles away.

[RoseCity07]

I didn't think he would be dominating like this but I think part of my beliefs are being seen. The guy is not winning. He's not deserving of the Lebron type hype he got. He's Blake Griffin 2.0 and that is not a good thing. Blake at least won games when he had monster nights. I keep seeing Zion have these games and it's an L.

Does he have bad teammates? Ingram is playing like an all-star. Lonzo has improved his shot. He's got Bledsoe. What is the excuse Zion has for not winning games? He's Mr. Empty Stats. Karl Anthony Towns impact.

[JohnMax]

When Media hypes up draft prospects, they're usually correct. I had no idea AD would be that good but Media did.

[Kblaze8855]

I didn't think he would be dominating like this but I think part of my beliefs are being seen. The guy is not winning. He's not deserving of the Lebron type hype he got. He's Blake Griffin 2.0 and that is not a good thing. Blake at least won games when he had monster nights. I keep seeing Zion have these games and it's an L.

Does he have bad teammates? Ingram is playing like an all-star. Lonzo has improved his shot. He's got Bledsoe. What is the excuse Zion has for not winning games? He's Mr. Empty Stats. Karl Anthony Towns impact.

Stop. Just be wrong and shut up now.

Dont go down a path of goal post moving when you started with a premise of him potentially being a bottom 3 all time pick.

You dont get to "But why isnt his team winning when he dominates? Hes just Blake Griffin" as if Blake wasnt 800 miles too good to talk about Bennett either.

Youre acting like those idiots who said Lamar Jackson cant play QB then shift to "But what has he won in the playoffs?" after hes MVP, throwing like 40 TD, and has an incredible record. As if 10-14 wins a year and not making the superbowl isnt what most even good QBs peak at.

Plenty of first ballot hall of famers werent winning even on somewhat talented lineups at this point of their careers. You dont get to smooth over an Anthony Bennett comparison because hes not winning in year 2. There are 2 dozen Ewing types who went to 3-4 years of college and were 4 years in before even being .500 then had long HOF careers. You in here complaining about a guy like 50 games in for not winning on a team that at best....should win enough to still not matter.

No reason to downplay a great player on a career long crusade because you said something stupid.

Everyone gets the draft wrong. I thought Sean May would be good. You just own it and move on.

[tontoz]

Currently Zion is averaging 25 ppg with a TS of 66% and is essentially a rookie. Those are prime Barkley numbers.

Blakes career high is 24.5 ppg and his career high TS is 58.3%

If you want to criticize Zion at least bring up valid points like a lack of rebounding or defense.

[Stanley Kobrick]

zion is one of the most nba ready rookies in a long time, he has still yet to play a full season

[RRR3]

zion is one of the most nba ready rookies in a long time, he has still yet to play a full season
My friend said he’s like a combination of Shaq and LeBron on offense and it’s kinda true. He’s going to be literally unguardable in his prime. Hope he can become a good defender and improve his rebounding though.

[PeroAntic]

So lets see, can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound, can't pass. What he can do is jump around like a maniac with that insane weight. Unless he learns to play actual basketball soon, his legs will be shot by the time he's 25.

Not to mention he has a great team around him and that isn't translated to wins. its funny how people pick and choose for which players this matters and for which doesnt. :confusedshrug:

[scuzzy]

So lets see, can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound, can't pass. What he can do is jump around like a maniac
you just defined DRose :biggums:

[PeroAntic]

you just defined DRose :biggums:

:facepalm

what to expect from the dumbest Bran stan of the lot

[tontoz]

So lets see, can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound, can't pass. What he can do is jump around like a maniac with that insane weight. Unless he learns to play actual basketball soon, his legs will be shot by the time he's 25.

Not to mention he has a great team around him and that isn't translated to wins. its funny how people pick and choose for which players this matters and for which doesnt. :confusedshrug:


Speaking of "translating to wins" how many playoff games has your boy lavine played in?

[PeroAntic]

Speaking of "translating to wins" how many playoff games has your boy lavine played in?
One of the exact people I was referring to.
:oldlol:

Lavine has a much worse team than Zion and still carries it to more wins.

[tontoz]

One of the exact people I was referring to.
:oldlol:

Lavine has a much worse team than Zion and still carries it to more wins.

This is his 7th season, in the east, and still he hasn't played one playoff game :lol

Currently the Pels have the same number of wins as the bulls but they play in the west.

[RoseCity07]

Stop. Just be wrong and shut up now.

Dont go down a path of goal post moving when you started with a premise of him potentially being a bottom 3 all time pick.

You dont get to "But why isnt his team winning when he dominates? Hes just Blake Griffin" as if Blake wasnt 800 miles too good to talk about Bennett either.


Youre acting like those idiots who said Lamar Jackson cant play QB then shift to "But what has he won in the playoffs?" after hes MVP, throwing like 40 TD, and has an incredible record. As if 10-14 wins a year and not making the superbowl isnt what most even good QBs peak at.

Plenty of first ballot hall of famers werent winning even on somewhat talented lineups at this point of their careers. You dont get to smooth over an Anthony Bennett comparison because hes not winning in year 2. There are 2 dozen Ewing types who went to 3-4 years of college and were 4 years in before even being .500 then had long HOF careers. You in here complaining about a guy like 50 games in for not winning on a team that at best....should win enough to still not matter.

No reason to downplay a great player on a career long crusade because you said something stupid.

Everyone gets the draft wrong. I thought Sean May would be good. You just own it and move on.


Oh boy, this feels like the right time to bump this. His fat ass is over 300 pounds and already having foot problems. The start of the end?