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Dray n Klay
03-25-2019, 03:12 PM
Kyrie did enough to win while having LeBron on his team


Wade also had LeBron on his team, but didn

superduper
03-25-2019, 03:19 PM
Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?

And1AllDay
03-25-2019, 04:08 PM
Bran community is very happy Wade knew better then to keep Wadeball going after 2011. He tried it out, didnt work.

Issa good thing to because then we get to see Bron ball in 2012 and 2013 and the rest is history. Wade ruined a 3peat but Bron made up for it in 2016

And1AllDay
03-25-2019, 04:09 PM
Why did Wade in 2012 and 2013 have higher Gamescore than LeGOAT in 2011?

Why did Shawn Kemp have a better Gamescore then Frauden in the 1996 Finals


Just imagine it, Blake griffin having a better Gamescore then LeBron oh boy jesus

kennethgriffen
03-25-2019, 04:13 PM
i still don't know if lebron sabotaged the 2011 finals on purpose or if he just choked/froze


wade was obviously going to win finals mvp. that would have solidified him as the better player of the 2 since he also won it without lebron


and it would have pressured lebron into going with the same script the following year instead of saying "hey lets try it my way since we lost last year with you as lead dog"



maybe this is why lebron says the 2011 finals was the best thing that ever happened to him. its sort of like the 2004 finals for kobe. even though kobe actually tried and just couldn't beat the double/triple teams. but losing in 2004 did boost kobes legacy since it broke up him and shaq

And1AllDay
03-25-2019, 04:16 PM
i still don't know if lebron sabotaged the 2011 finals on purpose or if he just choked/froze


wade was obviously going to win finals mvp. that would have solidified him as the better player of the 2 since he also won it without lebron


and it would have pressured lebron into going with the same script the following year instead of saying "hey lets try it my way since we lost last year with you as lead dog"



maybe this is why lebron says the 2011 finals was the best thing that ever happened to him. its sort of like the 2004 finals for kobe. even though kobe actually tried and just couldn't beat the double/triple teams. but losing in 2004 did boost kobes legacy since it broke up him and shaq


Wade was the clear #2 until Finals when he ramped up to 6 more shots its been posted already...

SouBeachTalents
03-25-2019, 04:19 PM
Wade was the clear #2 until Finals when he ramped up to 6 more shots its been posted already...
Regular season: 18 FGA, 8.6 FTA
East playoffs: 17.7 FGA, 8.7 FTA
NBA Finals: 18 FGA, 8.2 FTA

And1AllDay
03-25-2019, 04:26 PM
Regular season: 18 FGA, 8.6 FTA
East playoffs: 17.7 FGA, 8.7 FTA
NBA Finals: 18 FGA, 8.2 FTA

From other thread:

2011 ECSF
LeBron: 21.6 FGA, 28.0 ppg on 47%
Wade: 19.4 FGA, 30.2 ppg on 52%

LeBron took 2.2 more FGA per game than Wade


2011 ECF
LeBron: 18.8 FGA, 25.8 ppg on 45%
Wade: 15.8 FGA, 18.8 ppg on 40%

LeBron took 3 more FGA per game than Wade


2011 Finals
LeBron: 15.0 FGA, 17.8 ppg on 48%
Wade: 18.0 FGA, 26.5 ppg on 55%
Wade took 3 more FGA per game than LeBron

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 04:59 PM
From other thread:

2011 ECSF
LeBron: 21.6 FGA, 28.0 ppg on 47%
Wade: 19.4 FGA, 30.2 ppg on 52%

LeBron took 2.2 more FGA per game than Wade


2011 ECF
LeBron: 18.8 FGA, 25.8 ppg on 45%
Wade: 15.8 FGA, 18.8 ppg on 40%

LeBron took 3 more FGA per game than Wade


2011 Finals
LeBron: 15.0 FGA, 17.8 ppg on 48%
Wade: 18.0 FGA, 26.5 ppg on 55%
Wade took 3 more FGA per game than LeBron

That was my thread

Anyone?

FKAri
03-25-2019, 06:03 PM
Lerbraaan JaaaaAAAAAAAAymessssssssss :rockon:

kennethgriffen
03-25-2019, 06:14 PM
Wade was the clear #2 until Finals when he ramped up to 6 more shots its been posted already...


i think it was still up in the air TBH

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 06:50 PM
i think it was still up in the air TBH

ECSF
LBJ +2 FGA

ECF
LBJ +3 FGA

Finals
Wade +3 FGA

He pulled an '04 Kobe :(

SouBeachTalents
03-25-2019, 06:52 PM
ECSF
LBJ +2 FGA

ECF
LBJ +3 FGA

Finals
Wade +3 FGA

He pulled an '04 Kobe :(
He pulled an '04 Kobe while being significantly more efficient than LeBron :eek:

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 07:06 PM
He pulled an '04 Kobe while being significantly more efficient than LeBron :eek:

True, no argument there. Wade played well in 2011, I just think it threw Bron off because he was going in thinking "I'm the #1 option outchea" but no doubt Wade played well. :bowdown:

tpols
03-25-2019, 07:08 PM
i mean...easily kyrie.

People forget, but Wade was also a ghost in crunchtime of the 2011 debacle.

Irving otoh made all the biggest shots and closed the series out, while putting up better production.

Smoke117
03-25-2019, 07:21 PM
Wade obviously. All Kyrie did was score. Wade was one of the best defensive players in the series aside from his great offensive showcase.

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 07:24 PM
i mean...easily kyrie.

People forget, but Wade was also a ghost in crunchtime of the 2011 debacle.

Irving otoh made all the biggest shots and closed the series out, while putting up better production.

Down 3-1 LBJ put on the greatest 3-game display in the history of the NBA

But nice try sweetie

AlternativeAcc.
03-25-2019, 07:32 PM
Not only did Wade hijack the finals and ruin the Heat's chemistry.. but he also choked

Literally pulled a 2004 Kobe

How many people hold 2004 against Shaq? Nobody..


Just like nobody holds LeBron accountable for 2011, it's the exact same situation

tpols
03-25-2019, 07:55 PM
Wade obviously. All Kyrie did was score. Wade was one of the best defensive players in the series aside from his great offensive showcase.


:roll:


who did he shut down in that series?

Dray n Klay
03-25-2019, 08:49 PM
:roll:


who did he shut down in that series?

Who did Kyrie score on?

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 09:10 PM
Not only did Wade hijack the finals and ruin the Heat's chemistry.. but he also choked

Literally pulled a 2004 Kobe

How many people hold 2004 against Shaq? Nobody..


Just like nobody holds LeBron accountable for 2011, it's the exact same situation

It's pretty damn close. Imagine being the #1 option for the previous two rounds and then Wade-ball wants to steal a FMVP. Disastrous to say the least.

Smoke117
03-25-2019, 09:16 PM
:roll:


who did he shut down in that series?

Doesn't surprise me that an idiot like you thinks "shutting down" some opposing player is how to gage defense. Team/help defense has always mattered much more than one one one defense and Wade was one of the best in the league in that regard anyway when his knees were right. It's just pathetic how easy you make it. Why do you like being bullied so much by me?

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 09:30 PM
Doesn't surprise me that an idiot like you thinks "shutting down" some opposing player is how to gage defense. Team/help defense has always mattered much more than one one one defense and Wade was one of the best in the league in that regard anyway when his knees were right. It's just pathetic how easy you make it. Why do you like being bullied so much by me?

I think tpols may have mental limitations, best we don't pick on him too much :(

superduper
03-25-2019, 09:32 PM
Doesn't surprise me that an idiot like you thinks "shutting down" some opposing player is how to gage defense. Team/help defense has always mattered much more than one one one defense and Wade was one of the best in the league in that regard anyway when his knees were right. It's just pathetic how easy you make it. Why do you like being bullied so much by me?

Yeah Wade was an absolute monster of a guard rim protector. Was something else to watch

tpols
03-25-2019, 09:34 PM
the mavs ran roughshod on you guys... their perimeter players all went off, wa_e didn't stop a damn thing in that matchup.

they could've used a kobe type.

TheCorporation
03-25-2019, 09:43 PM
Yeah Wade was an absolute monster of a guard rim protector. Was something else to watch

Greatest shot blocking guard of all time :cheers: