Top 5 lowest FG% among FMVP winners (3ball DONT CLICK)

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

[StrongLurk]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?

[FKAri]

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?
Lebron sidestepped making this list. GOAT :bowdown:

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?
That he was worse AND he lost :applause:

[hiphopanonymous]

Lebron sidestepped making this list. GOAT :bowdown:
:oldlol:

[Manny98]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone that isn't a MJ cokksucker knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:

[hiphopanonymous]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:
Did you watch the game or google search some stats?

Be honest.

[SpaceJam2]

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?

Oh I thought it was obvious.

Of the 50 FMVP winners (1969 to 2019)

MJ was ranked
47th of 50 in assists
45th of 50 in rebounds
49th and 47th in FG%

#Notmygoat

MJ won with terrible stats due to having the most help in league history and playing the weakest competition we'd ever seen since the 8-team Bill Russell days of basketball.

[SpaceJam2]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone that isn't a MJ cokksucker knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:

And on the other hand, LeBron catapults into the greatest Finals run we'll ever see in 2016, leads every player in ever measurable statistics, and gets little credit.

It will be my duty to continually punish those that are delusional.

[Manny98]

Did you watch the game or google search some stats?

Be honest.
Rodmans defense and hustle on the glass that series was more important to the Bulls winning than MJs scoring even you can at least admit that.

[SpaceJam2]

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%

[SpaceJam2]

Rodmans defense and hustle on the glass that series was more important to the Bulls winning than MJs scoring even you can at least admit that.

No doubt about it :applause: :bowdown:

[superduper]

Rodmans defense and hustle on the glass that series was more important to the Bulls winning than MJs scoring even you can at least admit that.

Bran stans tallking about defense and hustle

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You literally can't make this shit up

[Manny98]

Bran stans tallking about defense and hustle

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You literally can't make this shit up
The same LeBron that finished top 2 in DPOY voting twice and shut down multiple MVPs in the playoffs (Rose,Curry)? yh ok :rolleyes:

[SpaceJam2]

Bran stans tallking about defense and hustle

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You literally can't make this shit up

When did you stop watching basketball? Did you miss all of years from 2009 to 2013 because LeBron was near elite level defender during those years.

DRtg: 99, 102, 102, 97, 101

Not a bad 5-year run for someone that apparently doesn't "play defense or hustle"

:coleman:

[SpaceJam2]

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%

Maybe SuperDuper can answer this?

[Manny98]

When did you stop watching basketball? Did you miss all of years from 2009 to 2013 because LeBron was near elite level defender during those years.

DRtg: 99, 102, 102, 97, 101

Not a bad 5-year run for someone that apparently doesn't "play defense or hustle"

:coleman:
This is the same retard that thought Adam Silver was the Commissioner in 2011

I don't know why i even bother responding to clowns like him sometimes

[SpaceJam2]

This is the same retard that thought Adam Silver was the Commissioner in 2011

I don't know why i even bother responding to clowns like him sometimes

:roll: :roll: :roll:

So damn true my G :cheers:

Didn't he also say Baron Davis played with LeBron and Brandon Ingram was "Brandon Ingraham"

2 good
2 be
true

[And1AllDay]

Oh I thought it was obvious.

Of the 50 FMVP winners (1969 to 2019)

MJ was ranked
47th of 50 in assists
45th of 50 in rebounds
49th and 47th in FG%

#Notmygoat

MJ won with terrible stats due to having the most help in league history and playing the weakest competition we'd ever seen since the 8-team Bill Russell days of basketball.

:eek:

3ball is gonna be :mad: :mad: :mad:

[MJistheGOAT]

1996 Finals:.

MJ 27.5 on 41,5%FG
Pippen 15.7 on 34.3%FG
Kukoc 13 on 42.3%FG
Longley 11.7 on 57,4%FG (center)
Rest under 8ppg
Bulls 93 ppg on 41.6%FG

MJ 12 ppg more than 2nd option, 14 more than third at better and the same FG. MJ = 2nd + 3rd option/29.5% of team points at same team FG%.

2012 Finals:

- Bran 28.6 ppg on 47,2%FG (18% 3p%)
- Wade 22.3 ppg on 43,5%FG (40% 3p%)
- Bosh 14.6 ppg on 45% FG (40% 3p%)
- Battier 11,6 ppg on 61%FG (57% 3p%)
- Chalmers 10,4 on 44% FG (34% 3p%)
- Rest under 8 ppg
- Heat 102 ppg on 46.4%FG and 43% 3p%

Bran --> 6 ppg more than 2nd option, 14 more than third at slightly better FG. Bran < 2nd + 3rd option/28% of team points at same team FG% and a lot worse 3p%.

Not so different I see ...

Also:

MJ 53.8 TS%
Bran 55.8 TS%

MJ 116 ORTG and 107 DRTG net = +9 (Bulls 111 and 106)
Bran 117 ORTG and 109 DRTG net = +8 (Heat 115 and 110)

Wow

[LostCause]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone that isn't a MJ cokksucker knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:

Wait, Pippen? :wtf:

If you want to argue Rodman's tenacity gave the team energy and how he annoyed Kemp and got a bunch of 2nd Chance points, sure I guess. He did his job, but that's not FMVP worthy imo

That's for 96 though. 98? Where the hell did you get Pippen deserved it over MJ? Because Pippen injured his back?

[Dray n Klay]

Wait, Pippen? :wtf:

If you want to argue Rodman's tenacity gave the team energy and how he annoyed Kemp and got a bunch of 2nd Chance points, sure I guess. He did his job, but that's not FMVP worthy imo

That's for 96 though. 98? Where the hell did you get Pippen deserved it over MJ? Because Pippen injured his back?

Pippen was better in the first 3 games than Jordan in 1998

[LostCause]

Pippen was better in the first 3 games than Jordan in 1998

Wtf no he wasn't :roll:

Please tell how you arrived at this conclusion. Is it that rebounds and assists shit? :roll:

[Celtics 1825]

The "3ball DONT CLICK" in the title killed me :roll:

[jstern]

So who should had won FMVP in 1998?

Keep in mind Pippen was limited and this https://youtu.be/8V_1ZxCN3nI

[TheCorporation]

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/socialmedia/apple/198/eyes_1f440.png

[SpaceJam2]

The "3ball DONT CLICK" in the title killed me :roll:

:lol :cheers:

[DaHeezy]

Lebron was worse in 2007 and 2011 than those Jordan finals...so what's your point?

You do realize the thread said FMVP right?
Or did the Jordan Brain Block syndrome kick in?

[AirTupac]

You do realize the thread said FMVP right?
Or did the Jordan Brain Block syndrome kick in?


Lmao didnt you get dumped by a tranny? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[DaHeezy]

Lmao didnt you get dumped by a tranny? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Now now Godzuki. First you OD on a blunt. Now you're hallucinating? You Koreans are lightweights

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Bran stans tallking about defense and hustle

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You literally can't make this shit up



SpaceJam2 has gone so retarded I have to add him to my block list.
Throw out logic with this kid - it's beyond him.

[SpaceJam2]

Now now Godzuki. First you OD on a blunt. Now you're hallucinating? You Koreans are lightweights

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Wrekt

[SpaceJam2]

SpaceJam2 has gone so retarded I have to add him to my block list.
Throw out logic with this kid - it's beyond him.

It is far easier to hide then face the truth.

Is the thread/title wrong? Misleading? A lie?


nope
Nope
NOPE

[egokiller]

Lmao didnt you get dumped by a tranny? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

:roll:

Poor guy gave out too much info in that thread, now the writing is on the wall.

[DaHeezy]

:roll:

Poor guy gave out too much info in that thread, now the writing is on the wall.

So you, a Korean who can't handle his weed, and a social inept gringo have a running tranny joke. Lol, yeah you really one upped me!

Straight_neverlogsoffISH

[Rico2016]

So you, a Korean who can't handle his weed, and a social inept gringo have a running tranny joke. Lol, yeah you really one upped me!

Straight_neverlogsoffISH

Straight_Running bodied

:lol :lol

[Manny98]

Wait, Pippen? :wtf:

If you want to argue Rodman's tenacity gave the team energy and how he annoyed Kemp and got a bunch of 2nd Chance points, sure I guess. He did his job, but that's not FMVP worthy imo

That's for 96 though. 98? Where the hell did you get Pippen deserved it over MJ? Because Pippen injured his back?
Pippen was a monster defensively the first 3 games it was some of the best defence I have ever seen in my life he drew like 5 charges in one game If i recall

May not of been the MVP for the entire series i'd give Jordan the edge since Pippen was medicore for the last two games and Jordan carried in game 6

Rodman was definitely the FMVP of 96 though there is no arguing that

[Manny98]

Now now Godzuki. First you OD on a blunt. Now you're hallucinating? You Koreans are lightweights
:roll:

[Rico2016]

:roll:

:roll:

Wrekt left n right

Its too good today

TOO DAMN GOOD

[And1AllDay]

The "3ball DONT CLICK" in the title killed me :roll:

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Oh I thought it was obvious.

Of the 50 FMVP winners (1969 to 2019)

MJ was ranked
47th of 50 in assists
45th of 50 in rebounds
49th and 47th in FG%

#Notmygoat

MJ won with terrible stats due to having the most help in league history and playing the weakest competition we'd ever seen since the 8-team Bill Russell days of basketball.

Yikes

[Big164]

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%
Well for starters Lebron has NEvER won a finals averaging over 30ppg. Everytime he

[bullettooth]

Does this amazing fact erase LeBron's 6 finals losses?

[Marchesk]

Dirk shot only 41.6% in the 2011 finals, and the Mavs still won :wtf:

Who the hell was he playing?

[SpaceJam2]

Dirk shot only 41.6% in the 2011 finals, and the Mavs still won :wtf:

Who the hell was he playing?

The 92 Blazers and 97 Jazz

Oh wait!!

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Open for discussion

*crickets from the MJ stans*

[TheCorporation]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Other thread got deleted so I guess I'll continue my point from here :confusedshrug: Please read above, thanks.

[tontoz]

FG% with no context is a pretty worthless stat. Harden's current FG% is 43.8% and he has a chance for the regular season MVP.

[TheCorporation]

FG% with no context is a pretty worthless stat. Harden's current FG% is 43.8% and he has a chance for the regular season MVP.

First off 43.8 is higher than 41.5

PLUS, Would Harden win with those numbers?

[TheCorporation]

Oh I thought it was obvious.

Of the 50 FMVP winners (1969 to 2019)

MJ was ranked
47th of 50 in assists
45th of 50 in rebounds
49th and 47th in FG%

#Notmygoat

MJ won with terrible stats due to having the most help in league history and playing the weakest competition we'd ever seen since the 8-team Bill Russell days of basketball.

Yikes it gets worse...

[tontoz]

First off 43.8 is higher than 41.5

PLUS, Would Harden win with those numbers?

He is top 2 in the regular season MVP race so it stands to reason that he could win the Finals MVP with the same number.

Of course FG% ignores the fact that Harden takes 13 three pointers per game, just like it ignores that Jordan got to the foul line 11 times per game in that series, shooting 83.6% from the line.

It also ignores the fact that Jordan was being guarded by Gary Payton, 1st team All-NBA defense that year ( and 7 other years).

[tontoz]

Defensive win shares that season:

1. David Robinson* • SAS 7.2
2. Michael Jordan* • CHI 6.2
3. Patrick Ewing* • NYK 6.1
4. Shawn Kemp • SEA 6.1
5. Grant Hill* • DET 5.7
6. Gary Payton* • SEA 5.6
7. Alonzo Mourning* • MIA 5.5
8. Scottie Pippen* • CHI 5.3
9. Karl Malone* • UTA 5.3
10. Hakeem Olajuwon* • HOU 5.2


Payton had more than Pippen and Hakeem :bowdown:

Of course Lebron stans will ignore the guy at 2.

[knicksman]

5 players more respected than lebron.

[tontoz]

For the record here are the other Bulls that scored in double figures during the '96 series:

Pippen 15.7 ppg shooting 34.3%
Kukoc 13 ppg shooting 42.3%
Luc Longley 11.7 ppg shooting 57%

After Luc the next leading scorer was Rodman at 7.5 ppg

What a stacked offensive lineup. Clearly there is no way the defense could just load up on MJ since his other offensive options were so potent.

[knicksman]

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%


And this is why statpadders exist. Coz most fans dont understand the dynamics of the game.

[SpaceJam2]

And this is why statpadders exist. Coz most fans dont understand the dynamics of the game.

So less stats is better? Also you never answered the question.

[ballinhun8]

LMAO like anyone actually cares about or looks at FG%



Keep reaching for those straws tho

[SpaceJam2]

LMAO like anyone actually cares about or looks at FG%



Keep reaching for those straws tho


https://media0.giphy.com/media/3yP65niAsFzDa/giphy.gif

[ballinhun8]

Toss up another L for SimonJam27alts

[knicksman]

So less stats is better? Also you never answered the question.

its obvious that you havent played ball dummy

[SpaceJam2]

LMAO like anyone actually cares about or looks at FG%



Keep reaching for those straws tho

:lol :lol :lol Best shit post I've read all day :applause:

[And1AllDay]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png


:eek:

[TheCorporation]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Anyone?

[SamuraiSWISH]

The only important thing is the title of the thread. Finals MVP winners. Stay salty LeBron Stans.

[MJistheGOAT]

Still, worst finals MJ version >>> 2007, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 finals Lebron and comparable to 2012 and 2013 ones.

Yawn.

[TheCorporation]

The only important thing is the title of the thread. Finals MVP winners. Stay salty LeBron Stans.

MJ = confirmed chucker with ELITE level help vs soup cans

Nice legcy :applaud

[TheCorporation]

Still, worst finals MJ version >>> 2007, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018 finals Lebron and comparable to 2012 and 2013 ones.

Yawn.

Top 5 lowest FG% among FMVP winners

49th of 50
47th of 50

YIKES

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Is this thing on?

[tpols]

Kobe # 1 again.

:pimp:

GOAT.

[Mask the Embiid]

3 ball https://media2.giphy.com/media/MNV0fukpqhdbG/giphy.gif

DONT LOOK!


https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/56391435/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing.jpg

[FKAri]

3ball was warned.
He didn't listen.
He got clapped.
:cheers:

[SpaceJam2]

3 ball https://media2.giphy.com/media/MNV0fukpqhdbG/giphy.gif

DONT LOOK!


https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/56391435/my-eyes-the-goggles-they-do-nothing.jpg

Poor 3ball, this thread derailed his brain so much he went and made a couple threads where he said Phil Jackson was nothing and MJ is goat because he shoots more jumpers :lol

Opinion vs facts

Us
Bron
Boys
Stay
Winning :banana:

[SpaceJam2]

Kobe # 1 again.

:pimp:

GOAT.

Big time :pimp:

[TheCorporation]

Which Finals series does LeBron win averaging any of the following four:

4 rebounds
2 asssists
.415 FG%
.427 FG%

:eek:

Anyone?

[SpaceJam2]

The same LeBron that finished top 2 in DPOY voting twice and shut down multiple MVPs in the playoffs (Rose,Curry)? yh ok :rolleyes:
https://i.postimg.cc/rpdKksKG/Anothrerone.jpg

[Gileraracer]

6 rings with one team


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




3 rings with 2 supersta collusions

[SpaceJam2]

6 rings with one team


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>




3 rings with 2 supersta collusions

I'm guessing you're a Kobe fan? Chuckers have to stick together after all.

[MJistheGOAT]

Why this irrelevant minority is still fighting against the consensus GOAT???

Your specific weight is zero.
Live your life, be happy and enjoy the playoffs .... oh wait!!

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Why this irrelevant minority is still fighting against the consensus GOAT???

Your specific weight is zero.
Live your life, be happy and enjoy the playoffs .... oh wait!!



Jordan has so many FMVP it's inevitable they'd find one with lower %'s than others.
God forbid we'd talk about Lebron's 2007 Finals shooting (22.0 PPG on .356%!) or the 8 point 2011 finals game.
But, he didn't win, and wasn't the FMVP, which has happen 2x more often than he won one.


Up next - MJ missed shots in December on Tuesdays in the 3rd quarter at Atlanta at the 2:30 mark. Lebron made more based on that criteria, so of course LBJ must be better.


Straws, they're beyond grasping at them. Hell even these "baby" players said MJ was GOAT with a 73% clip vs. LeGed's 12%.:roll:

[TheCorporation]

https://i.postimg.cc/JhZyDNFh/Qwertyuiop.jpg

[3ball]

.
REGULAR SEASON

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game):. 22.4.. 3.1.. 5.3.. 57.2 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 115 ortg.. 22.7 PER.. 0.169 ws/48
PIPPEN 91-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:per_game):. 19.1.. 7.5.. 6.5.. 54.1 ts.. 3.0 tov.. 23.5 usg.. 112 ortg.. 20.4 PER.. 0.168 ws/48

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game):. 22.4.. 3.1.. 5.3.. 57.2 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 115 ortg.. 22.7 PER
PIPPEN 96-98' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 19.7.. 6.2.. 5.8.. 54.8 ts.. 2.6 tov.. 24.5 usg.. 115 ortg.. 21.0 PER


PLAYOFFS

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 23.9.. 3.1.. 4.7.. 57.3 ts.. 2.2 tov.. 28.8 usg.. 117 ortg.. 22.4 PER
PIPPEN 91-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20.3.. 8.2.. 6.1.. 53.6 ts.. 3.4 tov.. 24.9 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.6 PER

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 23.9.. 3.1.. 4.7.. 57.3 ts.. 2.2 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 117 ortg.. 22.4 PER
PIPPEN 96-98' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6.. 7.4.. 5.0.. 50.0 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 23.4 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.0 PER
.

[ImKobe]

Lebron shot below 40% in the Finals twice... 41.5% is literally MJ's worst and his TS% is still 53.8%...on par with Lebron's 2013 championship (52.9%TS).

[yeaaaman]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

What does the list look like for those who show up 6 times?

[yeaaaman]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

I guess that's the difference, he can play bad and effect the game in other ways and still win, not like other players who may have shot sub 40% but piled up other meaningless stats:confusedshrug:

[Hey Yo]

What does the list look like for those who show up 6 times?
When you factor in that he quit the league (in his prime) for almost 2 seasons to rest up mentally and physically, he's the only one on that type of existing list. He's all alone at the top by himself. No other superstar player has quit after going to 3 straight Finals and then comeback 2yrs later.

[SpaceJam2]

.
REGULAR SEASON

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game):. 22.4.. 3.1.. 5.3.. 57.2 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 115 ortg.. 22.7 PER.. 0.169 ws/48
PIPPEN 91-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:per_game):. 19.1.. 7.5.. 6.5.. 54.1 ts.. 3.0 tov.. 23.5 usg.. 112 ortg.. 20.4 PER.. 0.168 ws/48

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:per_game):. 22.4.. 3.1.. 5.3.. 57.2 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 115 ortg.. 22.7 PER
PIPPEN 96-98' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 19.7.. 6.2.. 5.8.. 54.8 ts.. 2.6 tov.. 24.5 usg.. 115 ortg.. 21.0 PER


PLAYOFFS

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 23.9.. 3.1.. 4.7.. 57.3 ts.. 2.2 tov.. 28.8 usg.. 117 ortg.. 22.4 PER
PIPPEN 91-93' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 20.3.. 8.2.. 6.1.. 53.6 ts.. 3.4 tov.. 24.9 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.6 PER

KYRIEW15-17' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html#2015-2017-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 23.9.. 3.1.. 4.7.. 57.3 ts.. 2.2 tov.. 28.9 usg.. 117 ortg.. 22.4 PER
PIPPEN 96-98' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_per_game):. 17.6.. 7.4.. 5.0.. 50.0 ts.. 2.5 tov.. 23.4 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.0 PER
.

How many top 3 MVP voting results for both PLEASE and THANK YOU.

[And1AllDay]

What does the list look like for those who show up 6 times?

1-9 :mad:

[Cali Syndicate]

When you factor in that he quit the league (in his prime) for almost 2 seasons to rest up mentally and physically, he's the only one on that type of existing list. He's all alone at the top by himself. No other superstar player has quit after going to 3 straight Finals and then comeback 2yrs later.

Nope. Anybody who plays ball on a regular basis will get worse if they just stopped playing for 2 years and then tried to comeback. Anybody who performs endurance training on a regular basis will lose significant performance if they just stopped training for 2 years and tried to get to the swing of things.

Mentally, mj did get rested but it didn't provide some sort of recharge. Mentally, the challenge wasnt there anymore. For someone as competitive as he was, he was just too good. Physically, his break did more bad than good as an athlete. MJ was basically at his peak and he retired. Imagine if he didn't...more accolades, higher career totals, his legacy would be even more cemented as the GOAT

[SpaceJam2]

https://i.postimg.cc/JhZyDNFh/Qwertyuiop.jpg

:applause: Facts

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/JhZyDNFh/Qwertyuiop.jpg

No 49th and 47th ranked FG% for that man :oldlol: :roll:

[warriorfan]

Op get a job you ****** ass loser

[SpaceJam2]

Op get a job you ****** ass loser

You ashy SOB. 1st post back off a ban?

Section 8 rent free buddy

[TheCorporation]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

So does this mean of the 50 FMVP Jordan was ranked...

49th of 50 in FG%
47th of 50 in FG%
47th of 50 in assists
45th of 50 in rebounds

Not my GOAT :no: Might fall out of top 3 if I uncover more

The worst Finals performances we've seen from a "winner" means he was facing some true trash can teams :lol

[LAmbruh]

https://i.postimg.cc/JhZyDNFh/Qwertyuiop.jpg
:roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

You ashy SOB. 1st post back off a ban?

Section 8 rent free buddy

:roll: :roll:

[TheCorporation]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png


Top 5 worst FG% twice :eek:

Yikes

[paksat]

Top 5 worst FG% twice :eek:

Yikes

that's what happens when you gotta carry some bum like pippen :roll:

[TheCorporation]

that's what happens when you gotta carry some bum like pippen :roll:
I
Thats what happens when you cant shoot

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Imagine showing up twice in the top 5 worst FG% chips while playing terrible defense

:lol

Carmello Anthony status? Not my goat :roll

[warriorfan]

Go outside

[TheCorporation]

,https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/socialmedia/apple/198/eyes_1f440.png

[TheCorporation]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone that isn't a MJ cokksucker knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:

:applause:

[Wally450]

Obama giving props to Gary Payton and calling Jordan "Kobe-esque" in the Finals. :roll:

https://streamable.com/m5r66

[TheCorporation]

Obama giving props to Gary Payton and calling Jordan "Kobe-esque" in the Finals. :roll:

https://streamable.com/m5r66

Classic!!


:roll: :applause:

[bigkingsfan]

Obama giving props to Gary Payton and calling Jordan "Kobe-esque" in the Finals. :roll:

https://streamable.com/m5r66
Why isn't this its own topic? :roll:

[TheCorporation]

Why isn't this its own topic? :roll:


+1

Needs its own thread

[3ball]

Obama giving props to Gary Payton and calling Jordan "Kobe-esque" in the Finals. :roll:

https://streamable.com/m5r66
This isn't it's own topic because the president is wrong

Lebron was more like Kobe and shot the worst anyone ever has to win a Finals - 52.9% ts in the 13 Finals

MJ never shot that bad in any Finals

[Bronbron23]

4 rebounds 2 assists 42% from the field yet gets all the credit for the win?

The MJ formula :applause:

Everyone that isn't a MJ cokksucker knows Pippen and Rodman were the real FMVPs in 96 & 98 but apparently MJ should get all the praise and credit because he scored the most :rolleyes:
Man dude do you even watch basketball? Pip had a bad back in 1998 and was a shell of himself. He shot like 15 points a game on 41% shooting and if you don't want to go by stats pip credited mj for picking up his slack himself. There's also many articles online that speak on this.

And rodman in 98 let Malone score 25 a game on 50% and only grabbed 8 boards a game. He was decent but he hardly carried them.

Mj's stats weren't his best that year mainly due to his age and the work load he had due to pip being hurt but he fought hard willed the bulls to a ring that year.

This is proof that you just talk shit and don't even watch games:facepalm

[ImKobe]

Talking about Jordan's FG% in the '96 Finals but not realizing he averaged more points on higher TS% than Lebron in his 2013 Finals with a higher ORTG.

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Why was this good enough? Was it weak competition?

LeBron: 34/12/10 on 55% doesnt win
Jordan: 33/4/2 on 44% wins

Weak opponent. Simply put

[SpaceJam2]

When did you stop watching basketball? Did you miss all of years from 2009 to 2013 because LeBron was near elite level defender during those years.

DRtg: 99, 102, 102, 97, 101

Not a bad 5-year run for someone that apparently doesn't "play defense or hustle"

:coleman:

https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/socialmedia/apple/198/eyes_1f440.png

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Is anyone available for comment?

[And1AllDay]

this been addressed yet?

mike top 2 lowest fg% all time :oldlol: :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

wow

mike fail

41 and 42 %

elite shooter

[3ball]

wow

mike fail

41 and 42 %

elite shooter
a 41% pure scorer destroys lebron

Ask Dirk

And you're using FG% instead of true shooting, where Lebron has the worst true shooting while winning (52.9% ts in 13' Finals)

[Vino24]

Wait. So MJ won finals while shooting 41% and having 4reb 2ast games? But MJ carried scrubs his entire career :wtf:

[And1AllDay]

Wait. So MJ won finals while shooting 41% and having 4reb 2ast games? But MJ carried scrubs his entire career :wtf:


helps when you play literal worst #2 cupcake otpoin in finals history jeff 10 ppg hornacek

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Vino24]

helps when you play literal worst #2 cupcake otpoin in finals history jeff 10 ppg hornacek

:oldlol: :oldlol:
Yikes. MJ

[And1AllDay]

[QUOTE=Vino24]Yikes. MJ

[SpaceJam2]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

Will anyone crack into the top 5 in the modern defensive era?

[BigKAT]

How about we focus on the WINNER part rather than the FG%?

[ImKobe]

How about we focus on the WINNER part rather than the FG%?

Well if we focused on actual winning then OP would have nothing to post about, he's mastered the art of coming up with meaningless stats to justify Lebron's 3/9 Finals recod.

[BigKAT]

Well if we focused on actual winning then OP would have nothing to post about, he's mastered the art of coming up with meaningless stats to justify Lebron's 3/9 Finals recod.

Lebron's great.
Top 5 Player all time, at least. Maybe Top 2 in some people's mind.

But if people are going to take shots at Kobe they should bring up 2004, 2011 (Swept by mavs) or how he failed to make the Dwight Experiment work.

NOT the times he won the whole goddamn thing.

[ImKobe]

Lebron's great.
Top 5 Player all time, at least. Maybe Top 2 in some people's mind.

But if people are going to take shots at Kobe they should bring up 2004, 2011 (Swept by mavs) or how he failed to make the Dwight Experiment work.

NOT the times he won the whole goddamn thing.

Top 5 if you were biased but top 2 is laughable with just 3 championships, considering the amount of help he's had and how he's been able to jump from one good situation to another in this era. Imagine if Kobe switched teams after 2004 to play with other top 5-10 players during his peak years and then left them for younger players who were reaching their primes and then joined up with another top 5 player to end his career.

2013 is a joke to bring up with the amount of injuries that team had, it's a miracle Kobe led them to a top 5 record post-ASB.

[Rico2016]

Why was this good enough? Was it weak competition?

LeBron: 34/12/10 on 55% doesnt win
Jordan: 33/4/2 on 44% wins

Weak opponent. Simply put

No one to refute?

[And1AllDay]

Why was this good enough? Was it weak competition?

LeBron: 34/12/10 on 55% doesnt win
Jordan: 33/4/2 on 44% wins

Weak opponent. Simply put

whoaaaaa hot take

[RRR3]

Top 5 if you were biased but top 2 is laughable with just 3 championships, considering the amount of help he's had and how he's been able to jump from one good situation to another in this era. Imagine if Kobe switched teams after 2004 to play with other top 5-10 players during his peak years and then left them for younger players who were reaching their primes and then joined up with another top 5 player to end his career.

2013 is a joke to bring up with the amount of injuries that team had, it's a miracle Kobe led them to a top 5 record post-ASB.
No matter how much you sob about it, the vast majority of people consider LeBron a top 3 player of all time.

[FireDavidKahn]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

oHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[FireDavidKahn]

No one to refute?

Easy.

He had Scottie "Tree Trunk. No Pip No Chip" Pippen playing next to him.

[warriorfan]

Invasion of the incels

[GimmeThat]

so basketball is about a game of positions instead of shooting?

[Rico2016]

Why was this good enough? Was it weak competition?

LeBron: 34/12/10 on 55% doesnt win
Jordan: 33/4/2 on 44% wins

Weak opponent. Simply put

Guys?

[And1AllDay]

I noticed that only one player shows up twice in the lowest FG% FMVP winners in basketball history of the Finals

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest-FG-winners.png

anyone get this one figured out yet?

[dankok8]

How about posting TS% which is the measure of overall efficiency...

What was Lebron's TS% in his some of his Finals? Were any of them lower than Jordan's 51.6% which is his lowest?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

How about posting TS% which is the measure of overall efficiency...

What was Lebron's TS% in his some of his Finals? Were any of them lower than Jordan's 51.6% which is his lowest?

TS% can be sensitive to AND-1s in small samples

[SouBeachTalents]

No matter how much you sob about it, the vast majority of people consider LeBron a top 3 player of all time.
Maybe, but he'd never win a title out west

[Manny98]

Obama giving props to Gary Payton and calling Jordan "Kobe-esque" in the Finals. :roll:

https://streamable.com/m5r66
:roll:

[Lebowski]

First this place got flooded with the "Kobe, MJ, who is the GOAT" topics. Now it is "LeBron, MJ, who is the GOAT?"

Am I missing something here? I thought Kobe, according to ISH, won that first GOAT-debate easy. Shouldn't the current topic be "LeBron, Kobe, who is the GOAT"? :confusedshrug:

Quick edit, I vote Kobe.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

At least Kobe/Jordan/Dirk had the scoring volume argument. Duncan had no argument, besides he rebounds lol

[TheCorporation]

Maybe, but he'd never win a title out west

Never.

The Wild Wild West is too Mighty.