View Full Version : lakers and how they failed in Brons 1st year
Jasper
03-29-2019, 10:28 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26335718/how-lakers-wasted-year-1-lebron
A long read , but the bottom line is that LA is a money hole, and dropping money doesn't get a chip even in this league.
Some say they didn't know how to work their young talent into a winning way.
Acquiring players in the draft , assuming they are superior players is also called bad scouting.
Quit frankly a reworked front office, scouts and a legit plan is the only way.
Flipping switch's constantly gets you out of the playoff's and the fans loving it up with the clips or wars.
hiphopanonymous
03-29-2019, 10:32 AM
They had a dedicated front office with a good plan and a young core to build around.
Then the hostile take over happened.
Vino24
03-29-2019, 10:36 AM
Trading a 21ppg player and a 20/10 guy for a bag of chips didn
AirTupac
03-29-2019, 10:38 AM
Imagine thinking the Lakers failed LeBron :roll: :roll: :roll: Godamn mouth breathing retards
Jasper
03-29-2019, 10:40 AM
I do not know if you guys read the article , but it is a good read.
I just started wondering if Majic is willing to trade young talent , if they would trade to Clevland to get Calfi.'s Kevin Love.
Kuz-man, Bron, Love, Rondo would be a good start , problem is its older talent.
34-24 Footwork
03-29-2019, 10:41 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26335718/how-lakers-wasted-year-1-lebron
A long read , but the bottom line is that LA is a money hole, and dropping money doesn't get a chip even in this league.
Some say they didn't know how to work their young talent into a winning way.
Acquiring players in the draft , assuming they are superior players is also called bad scouting.
Quit frankly a reworked front office, scouts and a legit plan is the only way.
Flipping switch's constantly gets you out of the playoff's and the fans loving it up with the clips or wars.
Bron thought Paul George was coming...and PG13 finessed him. Kawhi, Derozan, Butler, KD, Kyrie, and a few others are on the record for reportedly not wanting to play with Lebron.
The biggest mistake by Magic was jumping at Lonzo Ball, but with the DLo-Nick Young Drama, DLo didn't do himself any favors either. Like a dumbass, he let Randle walk for more cap space thinking that Lebron would lure in stars...
Rude awakening....
Vino24
03-29-2019, 10:43 AM
Imagine thinking the Lakers failed LeBron :roll: :roll: :roll: Godamn mouth breathing retards
Dlo >> Ingraham
34-24 Footwork
03-29-2019, 10:43 AM
I do not know if you guys read the article , but it is a good read.
I just started wondering if Majic is willing to trade young talent , if they would trade to Clevland to get Calfi.'s Kevin Love.
Kuz-man, Bron, Love, Rondo would be a good start , problem is its older talent.
Gotta get rid of the ball hog...
He's got Rondo, someone whose bball IQ is always mentioned as being high, spotting up in the corner for cheap assists :mad:
Imagine any other player in the league NOT letting Rondo actually run point...
AirTupac
03-29-2019, 10:43 AM
Dlo >> Ingraham
DLO just dropped 13/4 on 31%. Sure buddy :oldlol:
Vino24
03-29-2019, 10:44 AM
DLO just dropped 13/4 on 31%. Sure buddy :oldlol:
He
AirTupac
03-29-2019, 10:52 AM
He’s averaging 21ppg for the year
20 ppg on 43% in the East with subpar guard competition? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
You do realize a younger Ingram is averaging 18 ppg on 50% with elite D.... I already won this.
The Iron Fist
03-29-2019, 10:55 AM
Magic is a genius on the court and a moron in the office. He let Lavar punk him and signed a career loser who is only out for his stats. Going to take a decade to clean this crap up. Sell the team Jeannie. You ****ed up.
SpaceJam2
03-29-2019, 11:09 AM
They had a dedicated front office with a good plan and a young core to build around.
Then the hostile take over happened.
Yes, very dedicated to acquiring zero shooting and zero defense which sounds like zero indication of a winning team :applause: Go Magic go!
SpaceJam2
03-29-2019, 11:11 AM
20 ppg on 43% in the East with subpar guard competition? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
You do realize a younger Ingram is averaging 18 ppg on 50% with elite D.... I already won this.
Ingram suddenly had his star-level emergence once LeBron went into playoff mode and you never acknowledge that, which is a travesty. Ingram will be okay, but he can be great alongside a player like LeBron. Why do you never give him his props for this?
ronniec
03-29-2019, 11:49 AM
Gotta get rid of the ball hog...
He's got Rondo, someone whose bball IQ is always mentioned as being high, spotting up in the corner for cheap assists :mad:
Imagine any other player in the league NOT letting Rondo actually run point...
Exactly.
Whatever team Lebron play for, doesn't need a PG anyway (at least not on the court with Lebron together).
Off ball movement is not good, not willing to let the natural PG to run the play. Disrupting the PG's job... why not just let the ball hog be the PG and run the show??
Lakers should have a legit center, 3 spot up shooters to play with him.
Of course, has a lineup like this, I don't know how they are going to play defense.
FKAri
03-29-2019, 12:34 PM
Gotta get rid of the ball hog...
He's got Rondo, someone whose bball IQ is always mentioned as being high, spotting up in the corner for cheap assists :mad:
Imagine any other player in the league NOT letting Rondo actually run point...
Imagine Rondo being a net positive in 2019 :oldlol:
More like if you have Lebron, you don't need Rondo. Nobody needs Rondo anymore. He's done.
PP34Deuce
03-29-2019, 12:45 PM
Jalen Rose talked about how every team Lebron gets on he has to blow it up to build it back up.
Lakers committed 3 years to a Lebron led squad. It's clear this Lakers team will look entirely different next season.
I see Anthony Davis less likely because Boston does have assets and less issues to do a deal with.
Those young Lakers pieces are not sticking around. Ingram and either Ball or Kuzma along with a top 8-10 pick are going to be traded for an all star level player. Bradley Beal, CJ Mccollum are good fits as scorers.
They have capspace. Shooters and lengthy defenders.
Doranku
03-29-2019, 12:58 PM
LeBron failed the Lakers & our fans, not the other way around. Our front office tried to trade the ENTIRE team for AD after LeBron held the franchise hostage with his "groin injury".
Nobody wants to play with LeBron. Can you blame them?
PP34Deuce
03-29-2019, 01:03 PM
Imagine Rondo being a net positive in 2019 :oldlol:
More like if you have Lebron, you don't need Rondo. Nobody needs Rondo anymore. He's done.
Rondo is in that weird Sam Cassell/Kenny Anderson phase of his career.
Can't rely on him for a whole season. Can win you a couple games in the playoffs. Better off being signed after the all star break as a 3rd PG and emergency starter. That's his role.
And1AllDay
03-29-2019, 01:12 PM
Rondo is in that weird Sam Cassell/Kenny Anderson phase of his career.
Can't rely on him for a whole season. Can win you a couple games in the playoffs. Better off being signed after the all star break as a 3rd PG and emergency starter. That's his role.
Big IQ mista right here
sdot_thadon
03-29-2019, 01:40 PM
Agree for the most part about Rondo. What amazes me is most of the posters here trolling now that the season has become a trainweck are acting like the general consensus wasn't that the team construction was horrible and most likely wouldn't work. The squad even had a joke nickname as the roster was coming together didn't it? The basic fundamental flaw was Magic and Pelinka got too cute with things and made a mud pie. Probably felt they were playing with house money after landing Lebron and pushed their luck way too far.
You not only surround Lebron with between mediocre to bad shooting, but you also have a coach that insists on playing him and Rondo together a massive amount of minutes when even dumb armchair coaches can see it's not viable. Even as Lebron has aged proper spacing still allows him to be devastating on offense, and it's not just a Lebron issue it's a modern basketball principle. No spacing shrinks the floor and Rondo being one of your supposed spacers shrinks it even further. When Rondo receives a pass in open space more often than not he can't attack the situation so he usually holds the ball or moves it to someone that's not nearly as open as he is. That's an offensive handicap and the Lakers still at one point looked decent despite that flaw. Not to say that's anywhere near the only problem there but on a strictly x's and o's level that's tough to overcome.
Gileraracer
03-29-2019, 01:50 PM
Without the whole Lebron drama they would be in the POs now.
sbw19
03-29-2019, 02:32 PM
Baylor 24
West 22
Wilt 32
Kareem 28
Magic 20
Worthy 21
Shaq 24
Kobe 18
Gasol 27
LeBron 34
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Some of the Laker legends ages when they joined the Lakers. LeBron by comparison is older with tons of mileage. It's hard to build around an aging centerpiece, and the Lakers roster composition of very raw talent and very old veterans with no stars in their prime made it virtually impossible to achieve anything of significance in year one.
The offseason can be transformative, but in all likelihood this will be a slow and methodical process that won't happen overnight ala Heatles. Or even Cavs Redux.
Free agency / transfer market will test Lakers FO and LeBron's reputation big time, and they must show that they've learned from past mistakes. Selection of new coaching staff (not just head coach) will also have a huge impact next season. Who gets which star and how the dominoes fall, who we draft, lots can (and will) happen during an offseason that's shaping up to be the wildest in years.
hiphopanonymous
03-29-2019, 02:38 PM
Hostile. Takeover.
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