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Shaquille O'Neal
03-30-2019, 12:00 AM
Right now counting the players from the ABA/NBA merger, he's ranked 4th all-time in turnovers with 4157. Has 5 so far in the game tonight.


Can he get the all-time record? Current is Malone @ 4524.



https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/tov_career.html


Let's say he played 4 more seasons, 75 games per. 300 more games.
He'd have to average roughly 1.25 per game.


I clearly have his career ending as the GOAT at turnovers.
Thoughts?

SpaceJam2
03-30-2019, 12:05 AM
Assists count please

FKAri
03-30-2019, 12:07 AM
Given that Lebron's the GOAT of everything then it must surely follow that he is also the GOAT of negative things. Does this mean there are things at which Lebron's the WOAT? It's like the age old theological question: Can Lebron make a team so heavy that even he can't lift them? A philosophical conundrum.

Shaquille O'Neal
03-30-2019, 12:09 AM
Assists count please
Well, for reference:


John Stockton, the all-time leader in assists and steals:


Total assists: 15,806
Total turnovers: 4,244


Lebron James:
Total assists: 8,614
Total turnovers: 4,162


So Stockton has almost a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio. James is barely 2:1.


Wow. Thanks for having me look that up. 4 assist to 1 turnover is twice as good as 2:1.

kennethgriffen
03-30-2019, 12:10 AM
lebron should easly get the all time missed shots record before passing kareem in points too

SpaceJam2
03-30-2019, 12:11 AM
Well, for reference:


John Stockton, the all-time leader in assists and steals:


Total assists: 15,806
Total turnovers: 4,244


Lebron James:
Total assists: 8,614
Total turnovers: 4,162


So Stockton has almost a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio. James is barely 2:1.


Wow. Thanks for having me look that up. 4 assist and 1 turnover is twice as good as 2:1.

Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif

MrFonzworth
03-30-2019, 12:14 AM
Well, for reference:


John Stockton, the all-time leader in assists and steals:


Total assists: 15,806
Total turnovers: 4,244


Lebron James:
Total assists: 8,614
Total turnovers: 4,162


So Stockton has almost a 4:1 assist to turnover ratio. James is barely 2:1.


Wow. Thanks for having me look that up. 4 assist and 1 turnover is twice as good as 2:1.
Stockton would deliver newspapers on his bike on his way to every game, keeping his right hand warmed up for showtime. Unfair comparison tbh.

Shaquille O'Neal
03-30-2019, 12:17 AM
lebron should easly get the all time missed shots record before passing kareem in points too



Wow.:applause:
Only a couple of finals losses away from tying the all-time Finals losses category as well (8).


Man - think about that - All time turnover leader, all time shots missed leader, combined with biggest finals loser. That's a deadly triple threat especially factoring in the 2 bailout finals shots by teammates and the 1* win in a lockout shortened season. Just...wow. Can you imagine stanning this guy?


Chosen1 tattoo = check
Call yourself the GOAT = check
Playing 20 years in the NBA and never winning one full season ring without a bailout shot by a teammate = Check.


That #6 rearing its head again - Lebron's arch enemy number
LeGBT's # in Miami = #6
Number of finals losses = 6
NBA games in 2011-2012 = 66




The true GOAT:

Jordan's championships = 6/6
Jordan's FMVPs = 6


You can't make this stuff up people.

Gus Hemmingway
03-30-2019, 12:22 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif
Damn, poor OP :roll: :roll: :roll:

SpaceJam2
03-30-2019, 12:23 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif


Don't ignore this baby boi :lol I gotcha again

SpaceJam2
03-30-2019, 12:24 AM
Damn, poor OP :roll: :roll: :roll:

He tried so hard :roll: :roll:

highwhey
03-30-2019, 12:24 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And1AllDay
03-30-2019, 12:25 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Time to waive the white flag OP you been got

Rico2016
03-30-2019, 12:27 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/VCeVTCWnhNQt2/giphy.gif

Big164
03-30-2019, 12:35 AM
Assists count please
Exactly. Assists are the most important stat in the game of basketball. Who cares about rings if you only averaged 4 assists in the finals?


Its all about assists. Gives you higher gamescore which is also more important than winning 6 fmvps.

TheCorporation
03-30-2019, 12:36 AM
Exactly. Assists are the most important stat in the game of basketball. Who cares about rings if you only averaged 4 assists in the finals?


Its all about assists. Gives you higher gamescore which is also more important than winning 6 fmvps.

https://i.postimg.cc/908dFLPN/dfjhfgjhfgjfdjhfgj.jpg

:coleman:

Dray n Klay
03-30-2019, 12:38 AM
He already got the all time playoff scoring record

Nothing else matters

Big164
03-30-2019, 12:39 AM
Touching the ball before your team mate scores is one of the most beautiful things you can do in the game of basketball. I dont even care if you lose 6 finals in the process. Its not about winning, its about your assists.

highwhey
03-30-2019, 12:42 AM
He already got the all time playoff scoring record

Nothing else matters
BIG FACTS

scuzzy
03-30-2019, 12:42 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/908dFLPN/dfjhfgjhfgjfdjhfgj.jpg

:coleman:

Yikes, dudes been making hundreds of alts for 8 years now


Nice life :lol

Keno
03-30-2019, 01:09 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

SouBeachTalents
03-30-2019, 01:12 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif
Shaq

TheCorporation
03-30-2019, 01:25 AM
[QUOTE=SouBeachTalents]Shaq

G0ATbe
03-30-2019, 01:31 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And1AllDay
03-30-2019, 03:07 AM
He already got the all time playoff scoring record

Nothing else matters

The Scoring God :bowdown:

Mr.GOAT2408
03-30-2019, 04:52 AM
He'll definitely finish with more turnovers than Malone - only needs about a season or two at his rate - and will retire with the most turnovers in league history

I can see Westbrook and/or Harden challenge it but they also entered the league at an older age and Westbrook probably won't have the longevity but they are both dark horse contenders for dethroning this dubious honor that LeBron is a near lock to retire with

SpaceJam
03-30-2019, 05:15 AM
Hook. Line. Sinker.

Guess who has an ever LOWER assist to turnover ratio

Michael Jordan :(

https://i.postimg.cc/3xvsz3zB/CanineOldGalapagospenguin-max-1mb.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Celtics 1825
03-30-2019, 05:35 AM
Harden will beat him eventually