Imagine MJ's 26 on 41% in Finals = FMVP, yet....LBJs 29/8/8 51% not good enough

[SpaceJam2]

Imagine that.

MJ had better teammates?
Weaker era?
Both?

[3ball]

Lebron won an ECF with 22/6/5

And won a Finals with 25 on 44% while being a net negative

[Dray n Klay]

Lebron won an ECF with 22/6/5

And won a Finals with 25 on 44% while being a net negative

Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1998?

Why was 12 rebounds and 10 assists not enough for LeBron in 2017? :lol


They both averaged the same 34ppg

[SpaceJam2]

Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1998?

Why was 12 rebounds and 10 assists not enough for LeBron in 2017? :lol


They both averaged the same 34ppg


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[3ball]

Why was 4 rebounds and 2 assists enough for Jordan in 1998?

Why was 12 rebounds and 10 assists not enough for LeBron in 2017? :lol


They both averaged the same 34ppg
Because scoring is more important and MJ scored a bigger portion of his team's points and more when it mattered (clutch)

All while maintaining far better teamwork than lebron's teams

[Dray n Klay]

Because scoring is more important and MJ scored a bigger portion of his team's points and more when it mattered (clutch)

All while maintaining far better teamwork than lebron's teams

LeBron averaged the SAME ppg on 10% higher FG% :eek:

PLUS he got 5x the assists and 3x the rebounds :eek:

yikes

[And1AllDay]

LeBron averaged the SAME ppg on 10% higher FG% :eek:

PLUS he got 5x the assists and 3x the rebounds :eek:

yikes

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA

:oldlol: :oldlol:

3ball pls respond

[3ball]

LeBron averaged the SAME ppg on 10% higher FG% :eek:

PLUS he got 5x the assists and 3x the rebounds :eek:

yikes
You must've missed that I said PORTION of team points - lebron 29% and mj 38% (record)

Again, scoring is more important

[kennethgriffen]

maybe lebron shoulda played defense and ran a legit offensive system

[SpaceJam2]

maybe lebron shoulda played defense and ran a legit offensive system

:rolleyes:

[jstern]

Imagine you're the best player in the world, but on the biggest stage you get dominated by Jason Terry.

If that wasn't bad enough of a choke job, two years earlier, after being voted the league's MVP, and having the best record in the league with 66 wins, losing to Dwight Howard in six games.

[Sportal]

You must've missed that I said PORTION of team points - lebron 29% and mj 38% (record)

Again, scoring is more important

So if we add the points generated by assists then what?

[jstern]

So if we add the points generated by assists then what?

What about the tendency for Lebron James team never being top assists teams in the league, because Lebron ball limits ball movement because everything has to go through him, while Jordan led teams were always at the top of the league in assists due to his GOAT level off the ball play, that allowed for his teammates to better play their games?

Can we add points generated by Jordan's dynasty producing style?

[SpaceJam2]

What about the tendency for Lebron James team never being top assists teams in the league, because Lebron ball limits ball movement because everything has to go through him, while Jordan led teams were always at the top of the league in assists due to his GOAT level off the ball play, that allowed for his teammates to better play their games?

Can we add points generated by Jordan's dynasty producing style?

What were the other playmakers LeBron played with that were capable of this again? Pip averaged 8-9 a game, keep that in mind. Is that gonna be Kyrie? Love? :lol

[jstern]

What were the other playmakers LeBron played with that were capable of this again? Pip averaged 8-9 a game, keep that in mind. Is that gonna be Kyrie? Love? :lol

Pippen never averaged more than 6 for any season, and his career average is 5.2, yet unlike with Lebron ball, the Bulls were always near the top of the league. Meanwhile Wade averaged 6.6 before Lebron, with a couple of season of 7.5, and went down to 4.7 with Lebron.

But one thing is for sure is that if Pippen played under Lebron ball instead of Jordan, he would definitely average less assists per game.

Lebron ball is intelligently designed to pad stats at the expense of the team, to inflate stats and get GOAT consideration.

[SpaceJam2]

Pippen never averaged more than 6 for any season, and his career average is 5.2, yet unlike with Lebron ball, the Bulls were always near the top of the league. Meanwhile Wade averaged 6.6 before Lebron, with a couple of season of 7.5, and went down to 4.7 with Lebron.

But one thing is for sure is that if Pippen played under Lebron ball instead of Jordan, he would definitely average less assists per game.

Lebron ball is intelligently designed to pad stats at the expense of the team, to inflate stats and get GOAT consideration.

Scottie in his
1st 3 Finals
8-9 apg
Look it up

[jstern]

Scottie in his
1st 3 Finals
8-9 apg
Look it up

Why didn't you specify that it's for the first three Finals and try to play it off as if it was just his regular average? Trying to mislead?

And I did check, in the 91 Finals Pippen averaged

6.6, in the 91 Finals
7.7, in the 92 Finals
7.7, in the 93 Finals

But you make it sound like he averaged up to 9 assist per game.

Does that mean that Jordan needed more help in 97 when Pippen averaged 3.5 assists per game?

Nontheless, the point is that Jordan's GOAT level off the ball playing style leads to the whole Bulls team being better able to play their game, to their strength, at a more optimal level, that leads to dynasties and near the top of the league in assists. While Lebron ball leads to more assists for him at the expense of the team stats.

Pippen would not be averaging anywhere near 7.7 assists per game in those Finals if he was playing under Lebron ball. He would have to submit, completely adjust his game to Lebron ball and not play at an optimal level, while Lebron is not skilled enough to play any other way, unlike Jordan who can better adjust to his teammates.

Take Jordan out of the Bulls, like when he left to play baseball, and Pippen's game, numbers stay virtually identical. Again, that would not be possible with Lebron ball. Pippen numbers would have to take a hit so that Lebron could get his stats.

I like Lebron, but that's the difference between a GOAT and a fraud getting GOAT consideration due to inflated/stat padded stats.

[Paul George 24]

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[Paul George 24]

Scottie in his
1st 3 Finals
8-9 apg
Look it up
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7815/33628349718_a641d77fc8_z.jpg

[Paul George 24]

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA

:oldlol: :oldlol:

3ball pls respond
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[Phoenix]

Why didn't you specify that it's for the first three Finals and try to play it off as if it was just his regular average? Trying to mislead?

And I did check, in the 91 Finals Pippen averaged

6.6, in the 91 Finals
7.7, in the 92 Finals
7.7, in the 93 Finals

But you make it sound like he averaged up to 9 assist per game.

Does that mean that Jordan needed more help in 97 when Pippen averaged 3.5 assists per game?

Nontheless, the point is that Jordan's GOAT level off the ball playing style leads to the whole Bulls team being better able to play their game, to their strength, at a more optimal level, that leads to dynasties and near the top of the league in assists. While Lebron ball leads to more assists for him at the expense of the team stats.

Pippen would not be averaging anywhere near 7.7 assists per game in those Finals if he was playing under Lebron ball. He would have to submit, completely adjust his game to Lebron ball and not play at an optimal level, while Lebron is not skilled enough to play any other way, unlike Jordan who can better adjust to his teammates.

Take Jordan out of the Bulls, like when he left to play baseball, and Pippen's game, numbers stay virtually identical. Again, that would not be possible with Lebron ball. Pippen numbers would have to take a hit so that Lebron could get his stats.

I like Lebron, but that's the difference between a GOAT and a fraud getting GOAT consideration due to inflated/stat padded stats.

:applause:

Lebron and Pippen wouldn't have worked as a duo. They're even more redundant of a pairing skillwise than Bron and Wade were, while playing the same position. Lebron in the triangle wouldn't worked either without a completely different approach. I can see Phil getting fired after the first year along with Tex.

[jstern]

:applause:

Lebron and Pippen wouldn't have worked as a duo. They're even more redundant of a pairing skillwise than Bron and Wade were, while playing the same position. Lebron in the triangle wouldn't worked either without a completely different approach. I can see Phil getting fired after the first year along with Tex.

It requires a lot more maintenance than your typical all time great. That equals more points of failure, less chances of dynasties.

[SpaceJam2]

EgoKill is shook :eek: