Which players had the biggest regular season to postseason dropoff?

[Manny98]

What players are known for having great regular seasons but come playoff time they shrink and get exposed?

[SamuraiSWISH]

Harden is the only MVP caliber superstar that comes to mind. Westbitch couldn’t get his team out the first round with very good talent surrounding him. So those two.

[Manny98]

Agreed huge Harden fan but he's just not built for the postseason :(

[SpaceJam2]

Stephen Curry
James Harden
John Wall (2017 aside)

[SpaceJam2]

Agreed huge Harden fan but he's just not built for the postseason :(

If he had a Pippen and Rodman I bet he'd be okay but yes otherwise you are correct

[tontoz]

Stephen Curry
James Harden
John Wall (2017 aside)


Curry regular season career: 23.5 ppg

Curry playoff career: 26.1 ppg

[SpaceJam2]

Curry regular season career: 23.5 ppg

Curry playoff career: 26.1 ppg

Probably not a good idea to fight this one because I was trying to be nice, but since you asked for it.

Stephen Curry in 2016

Regular season
30.1 ppg (Scoring title)
6.7 apg
50% FG
45% 3p
2.1 spg
*Unanimous MVP

Finals
22.6 ppg
3.7 apg
40% FG
40% 3p
0.9 spg

*Only top star in NBA history to commit more turnovers than assists for an entire Finals series;
*Only player to ever lose a 3-1 lead in the Finals

Its the greatest meltdown of all time. Please don't go further with this or else more people will make threads about it :lol

[tontoz]

Probably not a good idea to fight this one because I was trying to be nice, but since you asked for it.

Stephen Curry in 2016

Regular season
30.1 ppg (Scoring title)
6.7 apg
50% FG
45% 3p
2.1 spg
*Unanimous MVP

Finals
22.6 ppg
3.7 apg
40% FG
40% 3p
0.9 spg

*Only top star in NBA history to commit more turnovers than assists for an entire Finals series;
*Only player to ever lose a 3-1 lead in the Finals

Its the greatest meltdown of all time. Please don't go further with this or else more people will make threads about it :lol



Obviously the title needs to include the word cherrypicking, since we aren't looking at someone's playoff career. We are just looking at whatever series happens to fit our agenda.

Let's not forget that Curry sat out 6 games in the playoffs that year with a knee injury:


If the Warriors want to continue marching toward a title, they will have to do it without Stephen Curry for a little while. The NBA's reigning MVP suffered a Grade 1 MCL sprain in Golden's State's Game 4 victory on Sunday, according to Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski. The Warriors say Curry will be re-evaluated in two weeks.

The Warriors sent Curry in for an MRI Monday that revealed no additional damage, Wojnarowski reported. If Curry misses two weeks, that means he'll sit out for the remainder of the Warriors' first-round series against the Rockets and the first 2-3 games of their second-round series against the Clippers or Blazers.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/4/25/11502176/stephen-curry-injury-warriors-rockets-game-5-sprained-mcl

[SpaceJam2]

Obviously the title needs to include the word cherrypicking, since we aren't looking at someone's playoff career. We are just looking at whatever series happens to fit our agenda.

So, you're including career for career stats (regular vs post season) while not realizing that earlier in his career when he had down stats in the regular season he wasn't even making the playoffs :coleman:

But yet when talking about drop offs you want to AVOID his Unanimous MVP season?

:coleman: :coleman:

Stop it.

[tontoz]

So, you're including career for career stats (regular vs post season) while not realizing that earlier in his career when he had down stats in the regular season he wasn't even making the playoffs :coleman:

But yet when talking about drop offs you want to AVOID his Unanimous MVP season?

:coleman: :coleman:

Stop it.


You do realize that he had a knee injury in the playoffs that year, right?


if the Warriors want to continue marching toward a title, they will have to do it without Stephen Curry for a little while. The NBA's reigning MVP suffered a Grade 1 MCL sprain in Golden's State's Game 4 victory on Sunday, according to Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski. The Warriors say Curry will be re-evaluated in two weeks.

The Warriors sent Curry in for an MRI Monday that revealed no additional damage, Wojnarowski reported. If Curry misses two weeks, that means he'll sit out for the remainder of the Warriors' first-round series against the Rockets and the first 2-3 games of their second-round series against the Clippers or Blazers.

https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/4/25/11502176/stephen-curry-injury-warriors-rockets-game-5-sprained-mcl

Instead of looking at his playoff career, you pick out one series when he is coming off a knee injury.

That is what i expect from a Lebron stan. Why are you guys so insecure about Curry?

[SouBeachTalents]

Wilt

Robinson

Bosh

[SomeBlackDude]

prime bron in his first year in an actual conference.

reg. season: 27.4 ppg/8.5 rpg/8.3 apg on 51%fg
postseason: 0 ppg/0 rpg/0 apg on 0%fg

[SpaceJam2]

You do realize that he had a knee injury in the playoffs that year, right?



https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/4/25/11502176/stephen-curry-injury-warriors-rockets-game-5-sprained-mcl

Instead of looking at his playoff career, you pick out one series when he is coming off a knee injury.

That is what i expect from a Lebron stan. Why are you guys so insecure about Curry?

I'm sorry but I only remember one player in 2016 dropping 44 and screaming, "IM HERE! IM BACK!"

[72-10]

David Robinson

[Celtics 1825]

Wilt
Harden
DeFrozan

[imdaman99]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Harden is the only MVP caliber superstar that comes to mind. Westbitch couldn

[AlternativeAcc.]

Curry regular season career: 23.5 ppg

Curry playoff career: 26.1 ppg
Oh, so curry's playoff stats are inflated because he was unable to make the playoffs his 1st 3 seasons?

Riveting stuff

lol @ career average of 23ppg for a guy only known for scoring and nothing else :oldlol:

yikes

[StrongLurk]

Damian Lillard.

[FKAri]

Michael Jeffrey Jordan

[tontoz]

Oh, so curry's playoff stats are inflated because he was unable to make the playoffs his 1st 3 seasons?

Riveting stuff

lol @ career average of 23ppg for a guy only known for scoring and nothing else :oldlol:

yikes


2013

Playoffs 23.4 ppg
Regular season 22.9 ppg

2014

Playoffs 23 ppg
regula 24 ppg

2015

playoffs 28.3 ppg
regular 23.8 ppg

2016

playoffs 25.1 ppg (knee injury during playoffs)
regular 30.1

2017

playoffs 28.1 ppg
regular 25.3 ppg


2018

playoffs 25.5 ppg
regular 26.4



So where is that big falloff in the playoffs? :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Wilt and it's not particularly close either.


.511 FT% shooter in the regular season

.465 in the playoffs

.375 in the finals

Chokerlain's ppg in regular season: 30.1

Chokerlain's ppg in playoffs: 22.5

Chokerlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Wilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Wilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5


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[And1AllDay]

Wilt and it's not particularly close either.


.511 FT% shooter in the regular season

.465 in the playoffs

.375 in the finals

Chokerlain's ppg in regular season: 30.1

Chokerlain's ppg in playoffs: 22.5

Chokerlain's ppg in the Finals: 18

Wilt's scoring drop off from the RS to the PO's:

'60 - -4.4
'61 - -1.4
'62 - -15.4
'63 - Missed the PO's despite averaging 44.8/24.3/3.4 on 52.8%
'64 - -2.2
'65 - -5.4
'66 - -5.5
'67 - -2.4
'68 - -0.6
'69 - -6.6
'70 - -5.2 (Injured his knee, so not really gonna count this year)
'71 - -2.4
'72 - -0.1
'73 - -2.8

Wilt's FG% from the RS to the PO's:

1960 - +3.5
1961 - -4.0
1962 - -3.9
1964 - +1.8
1965 - +2.0
1966 - -3.1
1967 - -10.4
1968 - -6.1
1979 - -3.8
1970 - -1.9
1971 - -9.0
1972 - -8.6
1973 - -17.5


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Whoa Wilt makes Curry suddenly look like LeBron in the Finals now :eek:

[Smoke117]

Wilt

Robinson

Bosh

That's not even true. Besides 1994 he's been just fine in the playoffs for the most part. That's beside the point that teams were throwing double and triple teams every time he touched the ball in the playoffs since they knew nobody else could do shit on those early to mid 90s Spur teams.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

That's not even true. Besides 1994 he's been just fine in the playoffs for the most part. That's beside the point that teams were throwing double and triple teams every time he touched the ball in the playoffs since they knew nobody else could do shit on those early to mid 90s Spur teams.

Have no idea what SA was thinking when they built around him.

They weren't thinking at all really.

Who was the best player DRob had? Avery Johnson? Rodman in 94? Maybe Dale Ellis past his prime? What a shitshow :oldlol:

I'm in the miniority, but I believe David was every bit as good as Duncan. He might not have as many 'intangibles', but he made up for that with superior offensive skill and athleticism.

[Smoke117]

Have no idea what SA was thinking when they built around him.

They weren't thinking at all really.

Who was the best player DRob had? Avery Johnson? Rodman in 94? Maybe Dale Ellis past his prime? What a shitshow :oldlol:

I'm in the miniority, but I believe David was every bit as good as Duncan. He might not have as many 'intangibles', but he made up for that with superior offensive skill and athleticism.

There are maybe 2 or 3 players that ever carried teams like David Robinson did through the 82 game slog. Spurs in 89 win 21 games and then 56 his rookie season. In 96 they win 59 and then drop to 20 wins when he plays all but 8 (hurt) games in 97. Tim Duncan, frankly, never had close to the impact he had over an entire season. You go through advanced stats and Robinson is constantly in the top 10 all time for multiple seasons. Few players can match his absolute dominance on both sides of the court.

[Gileraracer]

Probably not a good idea to fight this one because I was trying to be nice, but since you asked for it.

Stephen Curry in 2016

Regular season
30.1 ppg (Scoring title)
6.7 apg
50% FG
45% 3p
2.1 spg
*Unanimous MVP

Finals
22.6 ppg
3.7 apg
40% FG
40% 3p
0.9 spg

*Only top star in NBA history to commit more turnovers than assists for an entire Finals series;
*Only player to ever lose a 3-1 lead in the Finals

Its the greatest meltdown of all time. Please don't go further with this or else more people will make threads about it :lol


Lebron in 2011

Regular season
26.7PPG
7.5RPG
7 APG
51%FG
33%3PT
76%FT

Finals
17.8PPG
7.2RPG
6.8APG
48%FG
32%3PT
60%FT

[Manny98]

So the consensus in this thread is

Wilt
Harden
Westbrook

Sounds about right

[tontoz]

In the last 3 years Harden's 3 pt percentage has been pretty bad in the playoffs. Not sure why, maybe the defense is more tuned in, but he probably needs to change it up a bit. Maybe take it to the rim/dish more.

[Jacques Webster]

Damien Lillard. Actually, the whole Trailblazers team.

[SpaceJam2]

Lebron in 2011

Regular season
26.7PPG
7.5RPG
7 APG
51%FG
33%3PT
76%FT

Finals
17.8PPG
7.2RPG
6.8APG
48%FG
32%3PT
60%FT

2016 Curry
*Unanimous MVP
*Only top star to commit more turnovers than assists for an entire Finals series
*Only player to ever lose a 3-1 lead in the Finals
*Yikes

[Gileraracer]

Whoa Wilt makes Curry suddenly look like LeBron in the Finals now :eek:

Nah Curry didn't lose 66% of his finals so far

[BigShotBob]

Lebron in 2011

Regular season
26.7PPG
7.5RPG
7 APG
51%FG
33%3PT
76%FT

Finals
17.8PPG
7.2RPG
6.8APG
48%FG
32%3PT
60%FT

This is the only right answer. These are prime Samaki Walker numbers.

[Gougou]

2011 Lebron
2016 Curry


Derozan (reason why Raptors traded him away)
Lillard (Swept by AD in 4)


Then... probably Harden, last year can win in 7 if he actually played better like he is today.

[ImKobe]

Could be Harden this year again tbh.

His 3PT% has cratered in the Playoffs for 3 consecutive reasons, averaging out to 29.3% from three with 10 attempts a game.

[Shaquille O'Neal]

Lebron in 2011

Regular season
26.7PPG
7.5RPG
7 APG
51%FG
33%3PT
76%FT

Finals
17.8PPG
7.2RPG
6.8APG
48%FG
32%3PT
60%FT





Also 2007 Lebron in the Finals:


Reg season - 27 PPG
Finals - 22.0 PPG on .356%:facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

The definition of this can be summed up in one word, Wilt.

[aj1987]

This is the only right answer. These are prime Samaki Walker numbers.
Yeah, pretty much Brick's Finals averages. :cheers: