Who had higher bpm, vorp, PER and win shares - 19' Harden or 88-90 MJ?

[3ball]

Just wondering


JORDAN 88-90' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1990-sum:advanced):. 31.3 PER.. 11.8 bpm.. 0.295 ws/48.. 10.1 vorp
J. HARDEN. 19' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html#all_advanced):f 30.4 PER.. 11.7 bpm.. 0.247 ws/48.... 9.3 vorp


Those are links to the stats

MJ's lowest vorp of the period was used (10.1, 11.8, 12.0)
.

[SpaceJam2]

Who went 1 for 10 again?

[SouBeachTalents]

Harden's finally made it, a 3ball thread comparing him to Jordan :applause: That's when you know the insecurity's kicking in

[SpaceJam2]

Harden's finally made it, a 3ball thread comparing him to Jordan :applause: That's when you know the insecurity's kicking in

Hook. Line. Sinker.

[3ball]

Who went 1 for 10 again?



MJ didn't have to dominate the ball/turn teammates into spot-up shooters, so his team could play the best brand and become a dynasty


https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-31-2019/66KkVF.gif


Just imagine - the goat produced like harden on offense, and Kawhi on defense, but played in a way that allowed a dynasty (ball-movement)

[SpaceJam2]

MJ didn't have to dominate the ball/turn teammates into spot-up shooters, so his team could play the best brand and become a dynasty


https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-31-2019/66KkVF.gif


Just imagine - the goat produced like harden on offense, and Kawhi on defense, but played in a way that allowed a dynasty (ball-movement)

He "allowed" for ball movement because he is not the best passer on his team just like Curry.

Since Nash or CP3 got a lot of assists did they "stop" ball movement :oldlol:

[3ball]

He "allowed" for ball movement because he is not the best passer on his team just like Curry.



MJ was considered a better PG than magic/isiah during his 24 games at PG in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games):


[INDENT][I]"In just 16 games at point guard, Jordan has gone from the league

[FKAri]

Harden

:cheers:

[3ball]

Harden

:cheers:


JORDAN 88-90' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1990-sum:advanced):. 31.3 PER.. 11.8 bpm.. 0.295 ws/48.. 10.1 vorp
J. HARDEN. 19' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html#all_advanced):f 30.4 PER.. 11.7 bpm.. 0.247 ws/48.... 9.3 vorp


Those are links to the stats

MJ's lowest vorp of the period was used (10.1, 11.8, 12.0)
.

[Uncle Drew]

Hereby I’d like to congralute James Harden. He is now officially a threat to Dad Killer.

[FKAri]

JORDAN 88-90' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1990-sum:advanced):. 31.3 PER.. 11.8 bpm.. 0.295 ws/48.. 10.1 vorp
J. HARDEN. 19' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html#all_advanced):f 30.4 PER.. 11.7 bpm.. 0.247 ws/48.... 9.3 vorp


Those are links to the stats

MJ's lowest vorp of the period was used (10.1, 11.8, 12.0)
.
Nope. Check again. Harden's are higher. And if not then the stats must be meaningless stat nerd shit.

:cheers:

[SpaceJam2]

[QUOTE=Uncle Drew]Hereby I

[3ball]

MJ was considered a better PG than magic/isiah during his 24 games at PG in 89' (30/9/11 and 10 triple-doubles in 11 games):



"In just 16 games at point guard, Jordan has gone from the league’s leading scorer the last two seasons to being lumped with Johnson, John Stockton of Utah and Isiah Thomas of Detroit as the elite among NBA point guards. Jordan may already be the best of the group."

http://ballislife.com/michael-jordan-could-of-been-the-best-point-guard-ever-want-proof/


^^^^^ Pippen didn't have it like that... :whatever:

So MJ was the teams best passer but his goat scoring burden overshadowed his goat passing.. he still led the bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen


Corporation destroyed

[imdaman99]

All I know is that Westbrook shattered the VORP record in his MVP season :rockon:

[Sportal]

Just wondering


JORDAN 88-90' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1988-1990-sum:advanced):. 31.3 PER.. 11.8 bpm.. 0.295 ws/48.. 10.1 vorp
J. HARDEN. 19' (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hardeja01.html#all_advanced):f 30.4 PER.. 11.7 bpm.. 0.247 ws/48.... 9.3 vorp


Those are links to the stats

MJ's lowest vorp of the period was used (10.1, 11.8, 12.0)
.

We should compare the size of the players defending them, their athleticism, and how many PPG those players are scoring.

[SpaceJam]

2008-09 LeBron James.

[SpaceJam2]

2008-09 LeBron James.

Zing!

[Vino24]

Harden officially passed MJ :banana: