View Full Version : Reminder: The 96 SuperSonics had a better record than any team this season.
Marchesk
03-31-2019, 09:48 PM
At 64-18. The Bucks will finish about 61-21. The 96 Penny/Shaq Magic had 60 wins. And Robinson's Spurs had 59, which will be better than what the Warriors end up with.
Keep that in mind next time someone says Jordan's Bulls had no competition.
Mask the Embiid
03-31-2019, 09:51 PM
Another thread about 20+ years ago
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kennethgriffen
03-31-2019, 09:56 PM
Another thread about 20+ years ago
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talking about the greatness of lebron in 2019 is just as pathetic though
plowking
03-31-2019, 10:47 PM
The 2015 Hawks won 60 games.
Keep that in mind when people say LeBron had no competition.
TheCorporation
03-31-2019, 10:50 PM
Another thread about 20+ years ago
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:lol :applause: :lol
TheCorporation
03-31-2019, 10:51 PM
The 2015 Hawks won 60 games.
Keep that in mind when people say LeBron had no competition.
Bingo
1987_Lakers
03-31-2019, 10:58 PM
The 2015 Hawks won 60 games.
Keep that in mind when people say LeBron had no competition.
This.
Mavs won 67 games in 2007, Cavs won 66 games in 2009, but both teams were pretty underwhelming in the talent department and it showed in the playoffs. Warriors currently sit at 52-24, but they would slaughter any team MJ played against in the Finals.
TheCorporation
03-31-2019, 11:00 PM
This.
Mavs won 67 games in 2007, Cavs won 66 games in 2009, but both teams were pretty underwhelming in the talent department and it showed in the playoffs. Warriors currently sit at 52-24, but they would slaughter any team MJ played against in the Finals.
And that's the bottom line because Stone Cold said so :applause:
jstern
03-31-2019, 11:00 PM
The 2015 Hawks won 60 games.
Keep that in mind when people say LeBron had no competition.
If we go by +/-, which is pretty consistent by seed, the Hawks would be 4th seed in the west. Keep in mind that their +/- is inflated due to mostly facing weaker competition in the East, rather than the tougher Western conference teams.
SouBeachTalents
03-31-2019, 11:02 PM
If we go by +/-, which is pretty consistent by seed, the Hawks would be 4th seed in the west. Keep in mind that their +/- is inflated due to mostly facing weaker competition in the East, rather than the tougher Western conference teams.
The Hawks had the same exact winning % against both the East & West that year
TheCorporation
03-31-2019, 11:03 PM
The Hawks had the same exact winning % against both the East & West that year
Bodied :lol
jstern
03-31-2019, 11:09 PM
The Hawks had the same exact winning % against both the East & West that year
Same logic still applies. The East was absolutely garbage that year, and pretty much every year for the past 20 years. Take however many wins they had in the East, whether it was 40 or 20, and subtract a few of them if the East was the least bit competitive that year.
SpaceJam2
04-01-2019, 12:09 AM
Same logic still applies. The East was absolutely garbage that year, and pretty much every year for the past 20 years. Take however many wins they had in the East, whether it was 40 or 20, and subtract a few of them if the East was the least bit competitive that year.
:coleman:
FKAri
04-01-2019, 12:10 AM
At 64-18. The Bucks will finish about 61-21. The 96 Penny/Shaq Magic had 60 wins. And Robinson's Spurs had 59, which will be better than what the Warriors end up with.
Keep that in mind next time someone says Jordan's Bulls had no competition.
uhhh... expansion teams? The parity was shit in the 90s. It's shit now too except we got the top teams coasting.
plowking
04-01-2019, 12:11 AM
If we go by +/-, which is pretty consistent by seed, the Hawks would be 4th seed in the west. Keep in mind that their +/- is inflated due to mostly facing weaker competition in the East, rather than the tougher Western conference teams.
Cool. Now do it for any team ever and get back to me.
Or just continue to over analyze and set extreme standards for one player over another because it suits you.
jstern
04-01-2019, 12:33 AM
Cool. Now do it for any team ever and get back to me.
Or just continue to over analyze and set extreme standards for one player over another because it suits you.
The East has been very weak for 20 years, but you should look at that as a positive. It's sort of a legit excuse. The reason why Lebron is 3 for 9 is because he plays in such a weak conference that it allowed him free trips to the Finals while being nowhere near championship caliber.
He's lucky in the sense that he could had easily been 1 for 9. Thank god he's not. But you can use the weak East to assure people that it's not really Lebron's fault that he has 6 Finals losses, that he just shouldn't have been there in the first place. With the best two teams in the league facing off in the Western Conference Finals. That's legit, it's the reason why he has so many losses.
plowking
04-01-2019, 12:38 AM
The East has been very weak for 20 years, but you should look at that as a positive. It's sort of a legit excuse. The reason why Lebron is 3 for 9 is because he plays in such a weak conference that it allowed him free trips to the Finals while being nowhere near championship caliber.
He's lucky in the sense that he could had easily been 1 for 9. Thank god he's not. But you can use the weak East to assure people that it's not really Lebron's fault that he has 6 Finals losses, that he just shouldn't have been there in the first place. With the best two teams in the league facing off in the Western Conference Finals. That's legit, it's the reason why he has so many losses.
It is almost as if you think I care about LeBron and his finals record, and how everything is viewed... You actually think that?
Sorry. I don't. Just all out ass posts when I see them.
Again, sorry for the objective view without moving goalposts and feelings not attached.
SpaceJam2
04-01-2019, 12:51 AM
It is almost as if you think I care about LeBron and his finals record, and how everything is viewed... You actually think that?
Sorry. I don't. Just all out ass posts when I see them.
Again, sorry for the objective view without moving goalposts and feelings not attached.
PlowKing plowing through everyone today :applause:
SpaceJam
04-01-2019, 02:32 AM
So did the Utah Jazz in '98. But than you realize the 90's was peak expansion era :(
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2D-P7wWoAAC5a7.jpg
72-10
04-01-2019, 03:42 AM
The 96 Sonics were stacked and well balanced with Payton, Kemp, Hawkins, Schrempf, and Perkins. When Sam Perkins is your fifth best player, you've got a great team.
Shaquille O'Neal
04-01-2019, 08:41 PM
So did the Utah Jazz in '98. But than you realize the 90's was peak expansion era :(
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2D-P7wWoAAC5a7.jpg
Another retarded post. Is this SpaceJam 1 or 2?
The Bulls played in the mighty east. Only 1 team had less than 31 wins in the east that year, yet Chicago tore through them all.
Chicago ran roughshod over .524, .622, .707 % winning teams, then beat the .756 % Jazz in the finals (best team in the west.
For comparison, the 2012-2013 heat beat: 38-44 Bucks (.463), .549 Bulls, .605 Pacers (all 3 lower than the 98 Bulls). Then they faced .732 baby Thunder.
All 4 opponents had a FAR worse win % than the 98 bulls. .60, .80, .102, .24 %. And it still took Ray Allen's miracle shot.
Meanwhile Jordan had 0 all-stars and hit the come from behind game winner (Something Lebron has never done in his life - hit a game winning shot in the finals) (after the key steal) to go 6/6.
Lebron was busy turning the ball over and shooting brick 3's at the end of his game 6 in 2013.
https://i.ibb.co/GdJnqr8/the-more-you-know.jpg
Smoke117
04-01-2019, 08:50 PM
lol. Keep in my mind the league was extremely watered down by expansion at this time. Teams like the Bulls and Sonics were building up a lot of blow out wins against garbage teams. OP with his usual fail.
3ball
04-01-2019, 08:57 PM
At 64-18. The Bucks will finish about 61-21. The 96 Penny/Shaq Magic had 60 wins. And Robinson's Spurs had 59, which will be better than what the Warriors end up with.
Keep that in mind next time someone says Jordan's Bulls had no competition.
They were a juggernaut, as required of any team that beats the b2b champs (i.e. 14' spurs, 91' bulls), which makes the 96' bulls SUPER-juggernauts for beating them - the only team ever to defeat a b2b killer
Ultimately, the 90's west was stacked with 3-4 juggernauts that all took turns having banner years and losing to MJ in the Finals
SpaceJam2
04-01-2019, 09:10 PM
The Seattle Soupercans made it out of the 2nd round ONE time during the great Kemp + 6'2 Payton dynasty run :bowdown:
The greatest team MJ ever faced, got out of the 2nd round one time. So basically MJ didn't even beat a Paul George Pacers type, at least the PG Pacers made it to the ECF a couple time, SHEESH man.
MJ is the most hyped player of all time :facepalm
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