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And1AllDay
04-01-2019, 03:06 PM
1. Jordan had Pippen (top 5 MVP votes as soon as Mike left)
2. Magic had Kareem
3. Kareem had Magic
4. Bird had McHale (top 5 MVP votes)
5. Wilt had West
6. Durant had Curry
7. Russell had Cousy
8. Shaq had Kobe
9. Kobe had Shaq
10. Duncan had Kawhi
11. LeBron had Wade



Is this the full list or who did I forget

Who is top 15 and did not have MVP/top5 MVP vote help
1. LEBRON in 2016 (*NO ALL STARS)
2. Hakeem
3. Kobe with Pau/Artest 2010

Is this the full list or who did I forget

SouBeachTalents
04-01-2019, 03:12 PM
Hakeem never had one come close to top 5

And if '94 Pippen counts, Wade finished 3rd in '09 & 5th in 2010

superduper
04-01-2019, 03:13 PM
LeGOAT collueded with the 2nd and 4th best players in the league in 2011

And1AllDay
04-01-2019, 03:22 PM
Hakeem never had one come close to top 5

And if '94 Pippen counts, Wade finished 3rd in '09 & 5th in 2010

Updated do to SouBeachGoat :rockon:

Overdrive
04-01-2019, 03:28 PM
Pretty good top 11 AT list, Durant's a bit too high.

kennethgriffen
04-01-2019, 03:32 PM
and kobes the only guy to win multiple titles without anything close to an mvp level player

SouBeachTalents
04-01-2019, 03:39 PM
and kobes the only guy to win multiple titles without anything close to an mvp level player
Nope

Isiah had nobody close to MVP level for either title

Hakeem had nobody remotely close in '94, and Drexler was not MVP level in '95

Duncan gets a nod too, Robinson/Parker/Manu were not MVP level from '99-'07

superduper
04-01-2019, 03:57 PM
Nope

Isiah had nobody close to MVP level for either title

Hakeem had nobody remotely close in '94, and Drexler was not MVP level in '95

Duncan gets a nod too, Robinson/Parker/Manu were not MVP level from '99-'07

So we agree Kobe is also on the list

egokiller
04-01-2019, 03:58 PM
LeGOAT collueded with the 2nd and 4th best players in the league in 2011

He did? Then how did he only average 18 ppg in the 2011 finals with that much help?

This guy just dropped out of my top 25....

Oh well, we win again boys. Just like we always do.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

SouBeachTalents
04-01-2019, 03:58 PM
So we agree Kobe is also on the list
I do, but the only one, nah

kennethgriffen
04-01-2019, 04:05 PM
Nope

Isiah had nobody close to MVP level for either title

Hakeem had nobody remotely close in '94, and Drexler was not MVP level in '95

Duncan gets a nod too, Robinson/Parker/Manu were not MVP level from '99-'07


dumars won finals mvp though

drexler was a league mvp candidate not long before 95

parker won finals mvp

And1AllDay
04-01-2019, 04:11 PM
So Bron in 2016 *NO ALL STARS
Hakeem in 94 and 95
Kobe in 09, 10


The big 3?

Shaquille O'Neal
04-01-2019, 04:27 PM
Jordan had 0 all-stars in '91 and '98...:confusedshrug: