View Full Version : Assists/Rebounds are more important than Rings/Points in the Finals.
Big164
04-03-2019, 06:28 AM
Averaging 33ppg and winning 6 Finals is pointless if you never pass to your team mates. I would give MJ way more credit if he sacrificed a couple of those points/titles to give the ball more to Longley, Ron Harper and Dennis Rodman. He foolisly let facilitators do their job and let rebounders rebound.Never That!
Its not about winning the Finals its about how many stat categories you can steal from your team mates. If lebron was on the bulls he wouldve outrebounded rodman and made him take spotup jumpshots. Thats what real team mates do. Westbrook knows whats up! 20/20/20 i see you fam! F.ck the 2019 playoffs!
APG > Rings
Marchesk
04-03-2019, 08:22 AM
Lebron is the Westbrook of the finals.
G0ATbe
04-03-2019, 09:17 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/2xn8u5.jpg
FKAri
04-03-2019, 09:27 AM
Agreed. Glad you came around to it.
:cheers:
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 09:57 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/2xn8u5.jpg
:roll: :roll:
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 09:57 AM
Agreed. Glad you came around to it.
:cheers:
Bout damn time :cheers:
ArbitraryWater
04-03-2019, 09:58 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals
Gileraracer
04-03-2019, 10:08 AM
I can confirm. Lebron is GOAT because of his stats. His finals record of 3*/9 after 2 superstar collusions does not count! :mad:
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 10:16 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals
OP = confirmed moron :lol
superduper
04-03-2019, 10:16 AM
30 point triple doubles make me hard
knicksman
04-03-2019, 10:23 AM
I can confirm. Lebron is GOAT because of his stats. His finals record of 3*/9 after 2 superstar collusions does not count! :mad:
these players care more about stats. Im sure jordan is willing to exchange his rings for lebrons MVPs and stats:lol
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 10:26 AM
soup can wins make me hard
Well we all knew that one :lol
FKAri
04-03-2019, 10:31 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals
OP is a moran.
Rings are worth a LOT more than rebounds. But what if we were to find a conversion rate? A player who wins a ring averages 15 rebounds in that Finals series. So we can state that 1 ring = 15 rebounds. LeGod averages 54.4 rebounds per finals series. Therefore LeHuge averages 3.6 rings per finals. Aside from LeLarge the most anyone has ever averaged is 1 ring per finals.
Therefore, LeGOAT :cheers:
And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 10:42 AM
OP is a moran.
Rings are worth a LOT more than rebounds. But what if we were to find a conversion rate? A player who wins a ring averages 15 rebounds in that Finals series. So we can state that 1 ring = 15 rebounds. LeGod averages 54.4 rebounds per finals series. Therefore LeHuge averages 3.6 rings per finals. Aside from LeLarge the most anyone has ever averaged is 1 ring per finals.
Therefore, LeGOAT :cheers:
Daaaayym that boy Biiiiiig
3ball
04-03-2019, 11:04 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 11:50 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)
Playing against 6 garbage teams also helps your "brand of winning." :lol
Ha you thought I'd let you slip that one by? Soup cans in the Finals, so congratulations on your garbage can expansion rings.
11 > 6 for ever
superduper
04-03-2019, 11:55 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)
DAYUM
3ball
04-03-2019, 03:32 PM
Playing against 6 garbage teams also helps your "brand of winning." :lol
Ha you thought I'd let you slip that one by? Soup cans in the Finals, so congratulations on your garbage can expansion rings.
11 > 6 for ever
6 rings + better stats than lebron > 11 rings and no stats
Only MJ has goat-level stats and rings
But thanks for playing
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:35 PM
6 rings + better stats than lebron > 11 rings and no stats
Only MJ has goat-level stats and rings
But thanks for playing
https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg
3ball
04-03-2019, 03:36 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..
A lot better
And more rings.. a lot more rings
:bowdown:
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:38 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..
A lot better
:confusedshrug:
And more rings
A lot more
:bowdown:
Nice try
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKX6T2Fk/tenor.gif
Hey Yo
04-03-2019, 03:41 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..
A lot better
And more rings.. a lot more rings
:bowdown:
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:43 PM
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?
https://i.postimg.cc/2jPHTQ5t/OoOoo.gif
3ball
04-03-2019, 03:43 PM
Nice try
https://i.postimg.cc/ZKX6T2Fk/tenor.gif
career PPG leader > total points
MJ did a lot more each game than lebron in the scoreboard category
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:46 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..
A lot better
And more rings.. a lot more rings
Sounds good doesn't work...
These any good though?
https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PrVgMtDj/20190324_143351.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zGZCX733/leadscorers.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QxmkNLtB/Finals_GmScore.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest_FG%_winners.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:50 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0qpYqNv/Gyuhyhgyyh8.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/0jKSQL7M/LeBron_1st.png
https://i.postimg.cc/XYSsGWqK/e1e2eda2d7d05cdfa41720f416049e13.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/BbTmmZp3/big_if_u_dont_know.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg
FKAri
04-03-2019, 03:52 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg
LeGod is the Wayne Gretzky of basketball :bowdown:
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:54 PM
LeGod is the Wayne Gretzky of basketball :bowdown:
No 2-ways about it :bowdown: :cheers: :bowdown:
If we go stats, LeBron wins in a landslide
If we go rings, Russell wins in a landslide
3ball
04-03-2019, 03:55 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency
Everything that matters
B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol
Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)
Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:57 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency
Everything that matters
B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol
https://media1.giphy.com/media/hXG93399r19vi/giphy.gif
MJ was a tomato can warrior that never beat any good teams and still managed top 5 worst FG% among 50 winners TWICE :lol
Bye bye
FKAri
04-03-2019, 03:58 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency
Everything that matters
B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol
Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)
Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)
You might want to sit down for this..
[QUOTE] Unfortunately, we do not know for certain how Hollinger generated these elements of PER. However, Hollinger himself revealed that their development was tweaked so as to ensure that Michael Jordan would hold the league-leading PER at PER
3ball
04-03-2019, 04:00 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/hXG93399r19vi/giphy.gif
MJ was a tomato can warrior that never beat any good teams and still managed top 5 worst FG% among 50 winners TWICE :lol
Bye bye
career totals are for people that didn't do enough per game, so no one respects career totals
Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)
Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)
MJ leads in everything that matters, i.e. PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency.. wowsers
3ball
04-03-2019, 04:25 PM
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?
In seasons where both guys played the full year (didn't get hurt), lebron rested 6 games per year (76.2 game average for 15 seasons)
That's 90 games of rest (15 seasons x 6 games a year) - that's a full season of rest - and that's without getting rusty since this rest occurred mid-season
Compare to MJ, who missed 0.6 games per year (81.4 average for 12 seasons) - that's 7 games of rest, or no rest, versus lebron's full season.. :rolleyes:
The Iron Fist
04-03-2019, 04:34 PM
In seasons where both guys played the full year (didn't get hurt), lebron rested 6 games per year (76.2 game average for 15 seasons)
That's 90 games of rest (15 seasons x 6 games a year) - that's a full season of rest - and that's without getting rusty since this rest occurred mid-season
Compare to MJ, who missed 0.6 games per year (81.4 average for 12 seasons) - that's 7 games of rest, or no rest, versus lebron's full season.. :rolleyes:
We win again bois!
And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:04 PM
Sounds good doesn't work...
These any good though?
https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/PrVgMtDj/20190324_143351.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/zGZCX733/leadscorers.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QxmkNLtB/Finals_GmScore.png
https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest_FG%_winners.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg
And
Just
Like
That
And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:05 PM
You might want to sit down for this..
Well, shit I told you to sit down.
:eek: Wow so PER is out the window when used.to compare Mike wow his only good stat too how sad
3ball
04-03-2019, 07:25 PM
And
Just
Like
That
MJ's statistical records are superior:
GOAT PPG
GOAT offensive efficiency/usage
GOAT MVP's (11)
GOAT Finals series gamescore
GOAT single-game gamescore (63 pt game)
GOAT PER
GOAT win share per 48
GOAT (the most) championship clutch shots
Only player to win MVP, DPOY, and scoring title in a season (goat peak)
Only player at 30/5/5 for career
GOAT winning stats - 34 and 7 apg in 91-93 playoffs (27 and 7 for lebron in 12/13/16)
GOAT losing stats (37/7/7 in 90' playoffs, 44/6/6 vs 86' Celts)
And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:34 PM
MJ's statistical records are superior:
GOAT PPG
GOAT offensive efficiency/usage
GOAT MVP's (11)
GOAT Finals series gamescore
GOAT single-game gamescore (63 pt game)
GOAT PER
GOAT win share per 48
GOAT (the most) championship clutch shots
Only player to win MVP, DPOY, and scoring title in a season (goat peak)
Only player at 30/5/5 for career
GOAT winning stats - 34 and 7 apg in 91-93 playoffs (27 and 7 for lebron in 12/13/16)
GOAT losing stats (37/7/7 in 90' playoffs, 44/6/6 vs 86' Celts)
Bruh half this stuff is made up. You are the craziest poster I know :facepalm:
3ball
04-03-2019, 07:39 PM
Bruh half this stuff is made up. You are the craziest poster I know :facepalm:
Which one is made up.. I'll wait
SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 08:37 PM
Which one is made up.. I'll wait
LBJ vs #1 defense Dwight Magic in 2009 ECF is the goat "losing stats" for starters...
39/8/8 on 49% I think it was with a big game winner :hammerhead:
3ball
04-03-2019, 09:36 PM
LBJ vs #1 defense Dwight Magic in 2009 ECF is the goat "losing stats" for starters...
39/8/8 on 49% I think it was with a big game winner :hammerhead:
What else?
And btw
44/6/6 with 30.6 gamescore and playoff record > 39/8/8 with 29.3 gamescore and lucky GW
MJ also had 2.3 stl and 1.3 blocks versus 1.3 and 1.2 for bron.. so MJ had the best losing stats
Bawkish
04-04-2019, 04:45 AM
And
Just
Like
That
all that for just 3 rings....
...out of 9 attempts...
this dude is all style over substance
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