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Big164
04-03-2019, 06:28 AM
Averaging 33ppg and winning 6 Finals is pointless if you never pass to your team mates. I would give MJ way more credit if he sacrificed a couple of those points/titles to give the ball more to Longley, Ron Harper and Dennis Rodman. He foolisly let facilitators do their job and let rebounders rebound.Never That!


Its not about winning the Finals its about how many stat categories you can steal from your team mates. If lebron was on the bulls he wouldve outrebounded rodman and made him take spotup jumpshots. Thats what real team mates do. Westbrook knows whats up! 20/20/20 i see you fam! F.ck the 2019 playoffs!

APG > Rings

Marchesk
04-03-2019, 08:22 AM
Lebron is the Westbrook of the finals.

G0ATbe
04-03-2019, 09:17 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/2xn8u5.jpg

FKAri
04-03-2019, 09:27 AM
Agreed. Glad you came around to it.
:cheers:

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 09:57 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/2xn8u5.jpg

:roll: :roll:

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 09:57 AM
Agreed. Glad you came around to it.
:cheers:

Bout damn time :cheers:

ArbitraryWater
04-03-2019, 09:58 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals

Gileraracer
04-03-2019, 10:08 AM
I can confirm. Lebron is GOAT because of his stats. His finals record of 3*/9 after 2 superstar collusions does not count! :mad:

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 10:16 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals

OP = confirmed moron :lol

superduper
04-03-2019, 10:16 AM
30 point triple doubles make me hard

knicksman
04-03-2019, 10:23 AM
I can confirm. Lebron is GOAT because of his stats. His finals record of 3*/9 after 2 superstar collusions does not count! :mad:

these players care more about stats. Im sure jordan is willing to exchange his rings for lebrons MVPs and stats:lol

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 10:26 AM
soup can wins make me hard

Well we all knew that one :lol

FKAri
04-03-2019, 10:31 AM
OP: Rebounds are more important than Rings in the Finals
OP is a moran.
Rings are worth a LOT more than rebounds. But what if we were to find a conversion rate? A player who wins a ring averages 15 rebounds in that Finals series. So we can state that 1 ring = 15 rebounds. LeGod averages 54.4 rebounds per finals series. Therefore LeHuge averages 3.6 rings per finals. Aside from LeLarge the most anyone has ever averaged is 1 ring per finals.
Therefore, LeGOAT :cheers:

And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 10:42 AM
OP is a moran.
Rings are worth a LOT more than rebounds. But what if we were to find a conversion rate? A player who wins a ring averages 15 rebounds in that Finals series. So we can state that 1 ring = 15 rebounds. LeGod averages 54.4 rebounds per finals series. Therefore LeHuge averages 3.6 rings per finals. Aside from LeLarge the most anyone has ever averaged is 1 ring per finals.
Therefore, LeGOAT :cheers:


Daaaayym that boy Biiiiiig

3ball
04-03-2019, 11:04 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 11:50 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)

Playing against 6 garbage teams also helps your "brand of winning." :lol

Ha you thought I'd let you slip that one by? Soup cans in the Finals, so congratulations on your garbage can expansion rings.

11 > 6 for ever

superduper
04-03-2019, 11:55 AM
Turning guys into spot-up shooters helps lebron's stats but doesn't develop teammates, the team, or a brand of ball that competes well on the championship level, 3/9 (0/9 without colluding or teammate-saving shots)

DAYUM

3ball
04-03-2019, 03:32 PM
Playing against 6 garbage teams also helps your "brand of winning." :lol

Ha you thought I'd let you slip that one by? Soup cans in the Finals, so congratulations on your garbage can expansion rings.

11 > 6 for ever
6 rings + better stats than lebron > 11 rings and no stats

Only MJ has goat-level stats and rings

But thanks for playing

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:35 PM
6 rings + better stats than lebron > 11 rings and no stats

Only MJ has goat-level stats and rings

But thanks for playing

https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg

3ball
04-03-2019, 03:36 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..

A lot better

And more rings.. a lot more rings

:bowdown:

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:38 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..

A lot better

:confusedshrug:

And more rings

A lot more

:bowdown:


Nice try

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKX6T2Fk/tenor.gif

Hey Yo
04-03-2019, 03:41 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..

A lot better

And more rings.. a lot more rings

:bowdown:
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:43 PM
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?

https://i.postimg.cc/2jPHTQ5t/OoOoo.gif

3ball
04-03-2019, 03:43 PM
Nice try

https://i.postimg.cc/ZKX6T2Fk/tenor.gif
career PPG leader > total points

MJ did a lot more each game than lebron in the scoreboard category

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:46 PM
Jordan's statistical accomplishments are better..

A lot better

And more rings.. a lot more rings


Sounds good doesn't work...

These any good though?

https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/PrVgMtDj/20190324_143351.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zGZCX733/leadscorers.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QxmkNLtB/Finals_GmScore.png

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest_FG%_winners.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:50 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Y0qpYqNv/Gyuhyhgyyh8.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/yxd0dzbK/23goog23.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/0jKSQL7M/LeBron_1st.png

https://i.postimg.cc/XYSsGWqK/e1e2eda2d7d05cdfa41720f416049e13.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/BbTmmZp3/big_if_u_dont_know.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg

FKAri
04-03-2019, 03:52 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg

LeGod is the Wayne Gretzky of basketball :bowdown:

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:54 PM
LeGod is the Wayne Gretzky of basketball :bowdown:

No 2-ways about it :bowdown: :cheers: :bowdown:

If we go stats, LeBron wins in a landslide
If we go rings, Russell wins in a landslide

3ball
04-03-2019, 03:55 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency

Everything that matters

B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol

Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)

Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 03:57 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency

Everything that matters

B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol

https://media1.giphy.com/media/hXG93399r19vi/giphy.gif

MJ was a tomato can warrior that never beat any good teams and still managed top 5 worst FG% among 50 winners TWICE :lol

Bye bye

FKAri
04-03-2019, 03:58 PM
All those graphics yet MJ leads in PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency

Everything that matters

B-b-but lebron has more total assists.. lol

Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)

Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)
You might want to sit down for this..
[QUOTE] Unfortunately, we do not know for certain how Hollinger generated these elements of PER. However, Hollinger himself revealed that their development was tweaked so as to ensure that Michael Jordan would hold the league-leading PER at PER

3ball
04-03-2019, 04:00 PM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/hXG93399r19vi/giphy.gif

MJ was a tomato can warrior that never beat any good teams and still managed top 5 worst FG% among 50 winners TWICE :lol

Bye bye
career totals are for people that didn't do enough per game, so no one respects career totals

Only MJ is 30/5/5 for his career with 10 scoring titles and career ppg leader (goat raw stats)

Only MJ is top 2 in PER, VORP, BPM and WS/48 (goat advanced stats)

MJ leads in everything that matters, i.e. PPG, PER, plus-minus, and offensive efficiency.. wowsers

3ball
04-03-2019, 04:25 PM
What other players are there who quit in their prime to rest up physically and mentally to compare MJ's stats to in order to come to that conclusion?
In seasons where both guys played the full year (didn't get hurt), lebron rested 6 games per year (76.2 game average for 15 seasons)

That's 90 games of rest (15 seasons x 6 games a year) - that's a full season of rest - and that's without getting rusty since this rest occurred mid-season

Compare to MJ, who missed 0.6 games per year (81.4 average for 12 seasons) - that's 7 games of rest, or no rest, versus lebron's full season.. :rolleyes:

The Iron Fist
04-03-2019, 04:34 PM
In seasons where both guys played the full year (didn't get hurt), lebron rested 6 games per year (76.2 game average for 15 seasons)

That's 90 games of rest (15 seasons x 6 games a year) - that's a full season of rest - and that's without getting rusty since this rest occurred mid-season

Compare to MJ, who missed 0.6 games per year (81.4 average for 12 seasons) - that's 7 games of rest, or no rest, versus lebron's full season.. :rolleyes:
We win again bois!

And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:04 PM
Sounds good doesn't work...

These any good though?

https://i.postimg.cc/j5xGtFQD/top10top10.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/PrVgMtDj/20190324_143351.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zGZCX733/leadscorers.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/QxmkNLtB/Finals_GmScore.png

https://i.postimg.cc/9Q2NBvHd/Lowest_FG%_winners.png

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0bH7MZp/BronPoint.jpg

And

Just

Like

That

And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:05 PM
You might want to sit down for this..

Well, shit I told you to sit down.

:eek: Wow so PER is out the window when used.to compare Mike wow his only good stat too how sad

3ball
04-03-2019, 07:25 PM
And

Just

Like

That
MJ's statistical records are superior:

GOAT PPG
GOAT offensive efficiency/usage

GOAT MVP's (11)

GOAT Finals series gamescore
GOAT single-game gamescore (63 pt game)

GOAT PER
GOAT win share per 48

GOAT (the most) championship clutch shots

Only player to win MVP, DPOY, and scoring title in a season (goat peak)

Only player at 30/5/5 for career

GOAT winning stats - 34 and 7 apg in 91-93 playoffs (27 and 7 for lebron in 12/13/16)

GOAT losing stats (37/7/7 in 90' playoffs, 44/6/6 vs 86' Celts)

And1AllDay
04-03-2019, 07:34 PM
MJ's statistical records are superior:

GOAT PPG
GOAT offensive efficiency/usage

GOAT MVP's (11)

GOAT Finals series gamescore
GOAT single-game gamescore (63 pt game)

GOAT PER
GOAT win share per 48

GOAT (the most) championship clutch shots

Only player to win MVP, DPOY, and scoring title in a season (goat peak)

Only player at 30/5/5 for career

GOAT winning stats - 34 and 7 apg in 91-93 playoffs (27 and 7 for lebron in 12/13/16)

GOAT losing stats (37/7/7 in 90' playoffs, 44/6/6 vs 86' Celts)

Bruh half this stuff is made up. You are the craziest poster I know :facepalm:

3ball
04-03-2019, 07:39 PM
Bruh half this stuff is made up. You are the craziest poster I know :facepalm:
Which one is made up.. I'll wait

SpaceJam2
04-03-2019, 08:37 PM
Which one is made up.. I'll wait

LBJ vs #1 defense Dwight Magic in 2009 ECF is the goat "losing stats" for starters...

39/8/8 on 49% I think it was with a big game winner :hammerhead:

3ball
04-03-2019, 09:36 PM
LBJ vs #1 defense Dwight Magic in 2009 ECF is the goat "losing stats" for starters...

39/8/8 on 49% I think it was with a big game winner :hammerhead:
What else?


And btw


44/6/6 with 30.6 gamescore and playoff record > 39/8/8 with 29.3 gamescore and lucky GW

MJ also had 2.3 stl and 1.3 blocks versus 1.3 and 1.2 for bron.. so MJ had the best losing stats

Bawkish
04-04-2019, 04:45 AM
And

Just

Like

That

all that for just 3 rings....

...out of 9 attempts...

this dude is all style over substance